The Battle of Stalingrad Every Week with Maps

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  • @WorldWarTwo
    @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +199

    Play Call of War for free on PC, Android or iOS: 💥 callofwar.onelink.me/q5L6/WorldWarTwo
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    This video was an ENORMOUS effort to produce. A big thank you to Conflict of Nations for making it possible, as well as our team:
    Indy Neidell for research, writing, and narration
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    Sietse Kenter for map research
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    • @jonny-b4954
      @jonny-b4954 Před rokem +5

      Ya'll should check out the CZcams channel Tik's maps of Stalingrad. Absolutely incredible, every, single building in the city is represented to scale. It's wild

    • @jerrycoob4750
      @jerrycoob4750 Před rokem +1

      An effort well spent!

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 Před rokem +4

      How pay2win is this?

    • @agc4556
      @agc4556 Před rokem +1

      23:32 What happened, the titles say October 9th but Indy says October 4th?

    • @iVETAnsolini
      @iVETAnsolini Před rokem +3

      I love TIKs Stalingrad series! The maps are super detailed

  • @2Links
    @2Links Před rokem +2243

    A whole hour of maps and Indy's narration. What a treat

  • @NatoHoro
    @NatoHoro Před 8 měsíci +213

    Meanwhile, at German High Command:
    - Sir, we intercepted a Russian message to their whole line.
    - Well, what is it, what does it say??
    - Prepare Uranus.
    - Oh Shhhhhhit

  • @TheEndofZombieShakespeare
    @TheEndofZombieShakespeare Před rokem +888

    I remember once reading in Antony Beevor's Stalingrad that Paulus' hobby was recreating battle and planning maps of the Napoleonic wars. Honestly, it's easy to understand why, watching figures and arrows moving across a map is pretty fun.

    • @lawrencesmeaton6930
      @lawrencesmeaton6930 Před rokem +172

      Which makes sense, he was clearly a very methodical organiser. Paulus was the staff officer in charge of wargaming Operation Barborossa to test for it's flaws. His conclusions? The Wehrmacht would need to defeat the Red Army and force a surrender in Belarus/Ukraine as there were insurmountable logistical obstacles past that point.
      He was off course correct. The Wehrmacht limped to the gates of Moscow and, exhausted, nearly got annihilated. Says something of his character that he was happy to lead the 6th Army, knowing the war was probably lost at the culmination of Barborossa.

    • @SmilingIbis
      @SmilingIbis Před rokem +36

      It's always fun until the frostbite sets in.

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 Před rokem +50

      @@lawrencesmeaton6930 I mean he was half right. He predicted they couldn't go much further than that but the Axis also weren't out of the fight either. I mean, Operation Typhoon smashed the Red Army for a *second* time, and if the Germans had not overextended, they could've gone into 1942 much stronger.

    • @winowmak3r
      @winowmak3r Před rokem +20

      When I was young I would take the little plastic soldiers from a RISK board game and do the same thing but for the US Civil War. It can be a lot of fun.

    • @Halcon_Sierreno
      @Halcon_Sierreno Před rokem +17

      Not so much fun for the soldiers involved in the fighting. Also, Paulus ended up losing in Russia just like Napoleon.

  • @davidbuckley2435
    @davidbuckley2435 Před 9 měsíci +82

    The thing I had never realised until watching this series' episodes on Stalingrad is just how close Chuikov and Yeremenko were to losing the West bank of the Volga. Zhukov really did come in at the last possible moment to save the day. Had he been delayed again it's entirely possible the city would have fallen. Not that it would have made much difference to the success of Uranus. Still, for the Soviet soldiers in the city, it must have come as a great relief to feel the pressure lift off them as victory became possible again.

    • @RobbyHouseIV
      @RobbyHouseIV Před 5 měsíci +5

      As you mentioned at the end of your post, even if 6th Army took the whole of Stalingrad they would still have been swallowed up by Uranus. It probably would have been tougher going for the Soviets but I don't see German success taking the city altering what was soon to come.

    • @aaronwhite1786
      @aaronwhite1786 Před 2 měsíci +1

      From what I remember in the Stalingrad book I just read (Lighthouse of Stalingrad), assuming I'm remembering right, when the Germans were encircled, there was an army group sent to see if they could break them out of the cauldron they were trapped in. They were close enough that the German commanders trapped inside could see them in the distance being engaged, but that was as close as their rescue ever got.
      Even reading the book and getting ready to watch this, I don't think I can imagine what it must have been like to be the soldiers in the battle just slogging through each day, hoping you don't die like the countless others you've already watched die.

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 Před měsícem

      @@RobbyHouseIV The thing is as we know Hitler was a complete and utter idiot, but the forces trapped in Stalingrad could have broken out with Manstein
      counter attacks close to the city in any case the forces could have broken out if they wanted too, It was Hitlers fault alone for the destruction of the 6th army and elements of the 4th Panzer Army.

    • @naoyanaraharjo4693
      @naoyanaraharjo4693 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@cpj93070 no, Manstein cant break the siege. The forces blocking his way outnumbered him
      TIK has a video on it

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 Před měsícem

      @@naoyanaraharjo4693 I mean even before the ring was shut they could have broken out 100%

  • @hmk5123
    @hmk5123 Před rokem +880

    Poland fell in 28 days. In the same period of time, the Germans gained a few ruined building in Stalingrad. France fell in 38 days. In the same period of time, the Germans had only managed to cross the street in Stalingrad.

    • @trk1b28varianrhesa4
      @trk1b28varianrhesa4 Před 9 měsíci +50

      Poland falls because they are not expecting german invasion after ww1 treaty and their tactics and equipment are from 1920s

    • @janpierzchala2004
      @janpierzchala2004 Před 9 měsíci

      France enjoyed support of 200,000 British soldiers and 50,000 experienced Polish soldiers. Poland enjoyed no support and Soviets attack instead 17 days after Hitler attacked. Soooo - France should have stood ground for 100 days to match the great Poles.

    • @janpierzchala2004
      @janpierzchala2004 Před 9 měsíci +35

      Also the Hell fortress fought 32 days, not 28, and the last regular army unit, commanded by Major Hubal, fought till late winter 1940

    • @dartko1783
      @dartko1783 Před 8 měsíci +20

      Poland fell in 35 days, France in 53.

    • @mr.nobody2515
      @mr.nobody2515 Před 8 měsíci +77

      @@trk1b28varianrhesa4bruh Soviets didn’t expect German invasion either. Stalin didn’t believed till the last hours

  • @dabibibibibi455
    @dabibibibibi455 Před 9 měsíci +30

    After watching most of the show, and there's still a lot to go, I'm convinced that the Soviet Union was the single greatest contributor for the destruction of Nazism

    • @polarvortex3294
      @polarvortex3294 Před 5 měsíci +6

      There's plenty of evidence that supports the idea that the Soviets did the most to defeat the Nazis. There's also evidence, to my mind, that the British & Americans, combined, did the most. What works in favor of the Soviets' is the brutal simplicity of their accomplishments. You can just add up the units eliminated, the equipment destroyed, the land captured... The effect of the Anglo-American effort is harder to discern. I mean, how much did the British blockade of Germany weaken the Axis? What was the effect of strategic bombing? or the massive aid sent to Russia?
      And there are many hard to answer questions, in general... Like, was destroying the Kriegsmarine & Luftwaffe worth more than breaking the back of the German army? Is capturing an Italian soldier in 1940 more of a contribution than capturing one in '42? Does Soviet trade and cooperation with the Germans from Sept. '39 to June '41 detract from what they did later?
      Even comparing battles is tough. Compare Tunisia to Stalingrad, for instance. Way more Axis surrendered in Africa. Tiger tanks were lost. And the German air force was obliterated trying maintain an "air bridge" between continents. The loss also augured Italy's exit from the war and an invasion of Europe from the south. Yet Stalingrad intuitively seems more significant.
      The argument will last forever, I guess. But don't bother asking a Russian. They always zero in on their most favorable stat, and ignore almost everything else. "Who killed the most Germans?" they ask.

    • @evryatis9231
      @evryatis9231 Před měsícem

      @@polarvortex3294 the soviets destroyed germany's war capacity, full stop. Germany's finest officers, bravest and most well trained men, died, in the millions, in russia. One cannot even fanthom how much effort it would have taken the americans to achieve the same results. Sure, had the allies not pushed as hard in Africa, germany would have been able to send more troops to the east. Or could they have? With how strained their supply lines there were, with troops nearing famine in the caucasus mountains? Come on, even a simple game like HOI4 can simulate this for you. Without a war with the soviets, as any allied power, you have no chance of landing and liberating europe.
      There is virtually no doubt, for any sane person, that the overwhelming majority of the efforts that led to the collapse of nazi germany was made by the soviets. Who cares about the kriegsmarine when the red army, numbering at its peak nearly 12 million soldiers, beats you up to berlin?

    • @Bipolar.Baddie
      @Bipolar.Baddie Před 25 dny +5

      In terms of actual combat, there's no question about it. Most historians believe that the Soviets inflicted between 65-80% of all German casualties during the war, not including those who died of exposure, disease, or starvation.

  • @raylast3873
    @raylast3873 Před 4 měsíci +41

    51:01 this is actually wrong. Manstein never actually gave a breakout order to Paulus, even though he was repeatedly queried about it. The claim that he gave the order comes from Manstein‘s memoirs, but the war diaries and communication records of the respective armies make it clear that he didn’t.
    Everyone wants to be remembered as having defied Hitler, but the reality at the time was quite different. Notably, a breakout also didn’t make military sense from the German point of view.

    • @lasa0031
      @lasa0031 Před měsícem +1

      yes, of course all german generals wanted to act like they always knew what was the best course of action, their words arent trustworthy.

  • @TerminalConstipation
    @TerminalConstipation Před rokem +282

    Imagine you're an 18-year-old Italian. You grew up near some sunny beach in southern Italy, swimming in the Med and chasing girls. The Christmas of 1942 finds you deep in Russia, getting overrun by the Red Army. And all you can wonder is, "how the hell did I end up here?"

    • @basilhanas8453
      @basilhanas8453 Před rokem +51

      Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer Před rokem +19

      @@basilhanas8453 Poo poo pee pee

    • @SidKafizz
      @SidKafizz Před rokem +30

      Fascism, that's how.

    • @stralabastro142
      @stralabastro142 Před rokem +20

      The ARMIR was composed entirely by italian soldier born in north/centre Italy so it's really unlikely that a soldier from south italy would be sent to Russia and especially to an Alpini unit.
      For instance I live in northern Italy, my great uncle fought in Russia, and the majority of the grandfathers or relatives of people in north Italy fought in Russia.
      Unfortunately the high command and mussolini were idiots unlike general Messe and the brave italian soldiers.

    • @toasteddingus6925
      @toasteddingus6925 Před rokem

      ​@@basilhanas8453you're from the Midwest or the south huh? Gaaaawdddd you guys all post the same sh*t

  • @perihelion7798
    @perihelion7798 Před rokem +809

    The scale of this fighting boggles the mind. More Russian soldiers died in this battle than all US dead during WWII, on all fronts. These maps [great work!] show movements of Army Groups, not regiments or battalions.
    Massive piles of frozen corpses stacked like cordwood. Grisly piles of frozen limbs, like some horrible display in a nightmare butcher shop. The dead had parents, siblings, wives, children - they were humans.
    Statues are raised, bands played, colored cloth and pot metal awarded to the surviving soldiers...
    But only after those soldiers had to drag hundreds of thousands of corpses into mass graves.
    I think we all want our lives to have sort of meaning, but we don't want that meaning to be a single sad statistic among millions of other dreary statistics, while our stiff, frozen body is thrown into a hole.
    I appreciate this episode, as it shows the massive scale of death and destruction around Stalingrad.
    Brigade sized units attacking and defending a single building, over and over again. It's hard to grasp.

    • @perihelion7798
      @perihelion7798 Před rokem +84

      @quotetheraven90 It was a human meatgrinder. 70% of the German losses in WWII were on the Eastern Front.
      However, there was another extremely vicious war going on in the Pacific, where the Japanese fought to the death, as did the allies. On Iwo Jima, America suffered 27,000 casualties, and about 11,00 dead, while Japan lost 25,000 dead. Virtually no prisoners on either side.
      And Iwo Jima is about 1/4 the size of the Dallas/Fort Worth Airport.

    • @hansolafsliper3113
      @hansolafsliper3113 Před rokem +25

      @@perihelion7798 like 200 Japanese surrendered on Iwo Jima, they were fanatical.

    • @perihelion7798
      @perihelion7798 Před rokem +34

      @@hansolafsliper3113 Brainwashed is a better word. The Allied soldiers knew about the Bataan death march, so no surrender there.

    • @hansolafsliper3113
      @hansolafsliper3113 Před rokem

      @@perihelion7798 "fanatical" was maybe to politically loaded. Batshit crazy is maybe better.

    • @NormAppleton
      @NormAppleton Před rokem

      You're good. I hear the meat grinder too.

  • @elbeto191291
    @elbeto191291 Před rokem +265

    The sheer amount of troop movements and actions in probably six months of fighting is unthinkable. And you guys managed to show it in a really simple (and tactical and strategical) way too! I congratulate you all on this one.

  • @kikufutaba524
    @kikufutaba524 Před rokem +229

    I have read most of Col. Glantz's tomes on Stalingrad. I believe you did a great service with your description of this horrible battle. Thank you for you research and fine presentation.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +21

      Thank you Kiku

    • @tonykeith76
      @tonykeith76 Před rokem +2

      ​@@WorldWarTwo A great great work!!! How long it taken?

    • @NikhilSingh-007
      @NikhilSingh-007 Před rokem

      "Glantz's tombs"?

    • @Qossuth
      @Qossuth Před rokem

      @@NikhilSingh-007 It's GENERAL GRANT not Colonel Glantz, and everybody knows who's buried in his tomb.
      At risk of cultural confusion, this is a veiled reference to standard US joke question: "Who is buried in Grant's tomb?" See first link provided by google for "grant's tomb joke" for explanation :)

    • @markprange4386
      @markprange4386 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Tomes

  • @user-on2vx9wp6l
    @user-on2vx9wp6l Před 7 měsíci +99

    Мой дед воевал с первого выстрела, Брестская Крепость продержалась 2 месяца в окружении, сражаясь до последнего солдата, мой дед дошёл до Берлина, и вернулся домой, Слава всем погибшим😢

    • @dondozer
      @dondozer Před 29 dny

      путин = Гитлер

  • @Mitra131
    @Mitra131 Před rokem +10

    This is the best Stalingrad movie ever made

    • @raylast3873
      @raylast3873 Před 4 měsíci

      It objectively isn‘t. Look up Battlestorm Stalingrad by TIK.

  • @rayceeya8659
    @rayceeya8659 Před rokem +27

    I applaud you guys. This is 90s Discovery Channel quality work. Back before they got inundated with "reality" TV shows and "Ancient Aliens". It reminds me of the Battlefield series. I think that was BBC originally though. Really spectacular work for a bunch of guys on CZcams. Again more professional than what you see on American "educational" TV these days.

  • @CareyMcDuff
    @CareyMcDuff Před rokem +62

    Thank you for doing this! After watching your coverage of Stalingrad, I thought it (your coverage) was so powerful that it would be worthwhile to do exactly this (collecting all the coverage in one video), but then I thought that would be too much to ask. I'm glad you found a sponsor for this.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +5

      Thanks Mark, very glad you enjoyed it.

  • @monco82
    @monco82 Před rokem +122

    Thank you! For me as a History teacher, this kind of material is pure GOLD! I can only imagine the huge amount of time spend in research and in animations for this to be possible. So again thanks you for all the great work you do!

    • @dogetothemoon223
      @dogetothemoon223 Před rokem +9

      I hope you know about TIK's Stalingrad series. They are very in depth.

    • @Ronald98
      @Ronald98 Před rokem +3

      @@dogetothemoon223 Fully agree , TIK is a good researcher

    • @broyhan
      @broyhan Před rokem

      would be really boring for kids...

    • @KokosNaSnehu2
      @KokosNaSnehu2 Před rokem +2

      Tik is boring even for adults. His videos are mainly whining about "stupid" historians that don't see history exactly like him.

  • @marklaurenzi1609
    @marklaurenzi1609 Před rokem +207

    Love the map work Time Ghost puts into this! So meticulous!

    • @DiegoBatosta
      @DiegoBatosta Před rokem

      How so, @@jakubstanicek6726?

    • @jakubstanicek6726
      @jakubstanicek6726 Před rokem +1

      @@DiegoBatosta Its the details. Depicted units, movements and frontlines, all are very approximate. The Operation Uranus for example, both north and south, some of it is actually wrong.

    • @hohooooooooify
      @hohooooooooify Před rokem +1

      @@jakubstanicek6726 yeah I can see that still can appreciate the effort even though eastery was a beast with it

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +18

      Thanks Mark! The team works hard on these every week and we appreciate the kind words!

    • @Partalainen
      @Partalainen Před rokem +1

      @@jakubstanicek6726 Was your first comment deleted?

  • @stevebarrett9357
    @stevebarrett9357 Před rokem +41

    Your lecture made me wonder about the 10th NKVD division since it seemed to be important to the defense. 'Regular' rifle divisions were supposed to have 3 rifle regiments with supporting artillery (and other) units. NKVD divisions had 3-5 regiments but no other supporting units. When the Germans started to approach Stalingrad, the 10th apparently supplemented its 5 regiments with 2 training tank battalions (30 tanks), 2 battalions of commissar students, an armored train, a railroad regiment, naval infantry and some militia. While probably highly motivated, I expect their casualties were significant with no integrated artillery support. I am a bit amazed that the unit survived to become the 181st rifle division. Reference Charles C Sharp, Soviet Order of Battle World War II, Volume VII.
    A great episode btw. Kind of a WW2 Stalingrad in a nutshell. Nicely done.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +6

      Thank you for watching, Steve

    • @raylast3873
      @raylast3873 Před 4 měsíci

      All the units in the Soviet OOB took massive casualties, and they often didn‘t have support weapons to speak of. On the other hand, 62nd Army did have significant artillery support, just none of it was *in* Stalingrad, as Chuikov moved it to the right bank early in the battle.

  • @rogerjclarke
    @rogerjclarke Před rokem +129

    Outstanding work, congratulations to the Timeghost team for producing such a marvelous historic body of work.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +7

      Thank you rogerjc, we appreciate your kind words

  • @reborninflames2188
    @reborninflames2188 Před rokem +23

    Excellent. David Glantz's incredible series on Stalingrad focuses (at least to some degree) on the conflict as it unfolded street-by-street & building-by-building. But only someone with Glantz's obsessive level of detail could do that.

    • @RahellOmer
      @RahellOmer Před rokem +12

      You are in for a treat. Look up TIK's Battlestorm Stalingrad series. The kind of shit you'd be into. It's fucking amazing!

    • @reborninflames2188
      @reborninflames2188 Před rokem +5

      @@RahellOmer Cheers Rahell. Much appreciated!

    • @RahellOmer
      @RahellOmer Před rokem +1

      @@reborninflames2188 Most welcome!

  • @GeorgE-yo5yc
    @GeorgE-yo5yc Před 8 měsíci +7

    All this unimaginable pain and suffering.. it is soul crushing to think there are millions of lost lives behind those little moving squares on the map.

  • @DragonMacer1
    @DragonMacer1 Před rokem +152

    I think we all can agree tat this was epic, entertaining ans also very informative document. With Indy's narration and quality work TG team put to this, this was just great.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +18

      Thank you.

    • @Publius_Staso
      @Publius_Staso Před rokem +1

      Конев

    • @Frankly3
      @Frankly3 Před rokem +1

      I think you should watch TIK History Channel's Battlestorm Stalingrad Series

  • @ethanmagnuson2988
    @ethanmagnuson2988 Před rokem +27

    Once this war is done, I would love a special by the map crew showing their creative process. As a cartographer myself, I’m extremely impressed at the quality of their work.

  • @Materialist39
    @Materialist39 Před rokem +29

    This makes me appreciate how truly tenacious the Soviet defenders were, often outnumbered and outgunned, but fighting literally back to the wall for their lives.
    I am sure it’s been discussed in the main series, but I think in collective memory the blocking detachments get a far too much attention. I can’t image those in the city needed much convincing given the existential stakes.

    • @Yu-hx5jo
      @Yu-hx5jo Před rokem +1

      Nazis were out their to EXTERMINATE the Entire Soviet population especially Slavs and Jews. What do you expect ? Ofc they will fight like hell. They were fighting for their EXISTENCE.

    • @anderskorsback4104
      @anderskorsback4104 Před 9 měsíci +14

      That's true, and when it comes to blocking detachments and other instances of extreme discipline, such measures only work if a large part of the army complies of its own choice. Because the troops ultimately outnumber the enforcers of discipline, and can mutiny and turn their guns on them if they don't feel like dying for a cause they don't believe in. It's those very existential stakes that allow such extreme discipline to work. Other regimes, such as WW1 Imperial Russia, that tried to crank up the discipline with punitive measures ended up collapsing instead.

    • @RealJulWhite
      @RealJulWhite Před 4 dny

      @@anderskorsback4104 Well, the soviets had order 227, which means if you run you get executed, they executed thousands in Stalingrad alone

  • @gunman47
    @gunman47 Před rokem +106

    Well, I wonder how long this video will be, given how long the Battle of Stalingrad was...

    • @jtgd
      @jtgd Před rokem +3

      Meh, 6 hours

  • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
    @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Před rokem +53

    This is amazing work, Indy. You guys should be so proud of this channel.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +8

      Thank you. We're proud of our audience and the TimeGhost Army above all. To have such an enthusiastic, thoughtful, gracious audience is more than we could hope for. Stay tuned my friend

  • @criso6164
    @criso6164 Před rokem +4

    Excellent 'Special'. Thought I’d watch over a couple of sessions but ended up watching in one sitting as it just drew you in with the detail and Indy's clear narration. Having watched this all play out week by week in the regular episodes it was good to see it all stitched together in one video. Thanks.

  • @6omega2
    @6omega2 Před rokem +108

    This is fascinating. Thank you. It's like watching a horror movie in slow motion, from the German perspective. The Germans were utterly and obsessively fixated on the city of Stalingrad, blinding them to the extreme danger building up on their thinly held flanks to the north and south of the city. A monumental failure of German intelligence, not to have realized the enormity of the Russian forces massing for attack on their flanks. And you have to hand it to STAVKA, because what they accomplished here was brilliant.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +19

      Thank you, well stated. Check out all our other specials too, and our weekly episodes. And tell your friends!

    • @cosmo1084
      @cosmo1084 Před rokem +16

      why are you calling soviet forces russian forces?

    • @arthas3330
      @arthas3330 Před rokem

      ​@@cosmo1084 thats typical for everyone, outside of past socialistic republics and those who really have russians.

    • @KarlChilcott-vb6ep
      @KarlChilcott-vb6ep Před 10 měsíci +2

      Halder told Hitler it was disaster if carried on.....Hitler got rid of him for Zistler

    • @connorbranscombe6819
      @connorbranscombe6819 Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@cosmo1084Because the Soviets were a Russian empire? It’s like getting confused by the term German soldiers, you know there were plenty of French, Poles, Danes, Austrians and other nations fighting for the Nazis right? It’s the same thing. You call them Germans to keep things nice and simple.

  • @RadX_98
    @RadX_98 Před rokem +29

    The most Iconic Battle in humankind, it gives me shivers thinking of it and it’s name STALINGRAD. Bloodiest battle in history, unbeatable. So interesting and dark.

    • @zeitgeistx5239
      @zeitgeistx5239 Před rokem +2

      Not really. Your just euro centric. And also not the worlds deadliest by far. The Japanese used biological warfare. And Nazi’s starved out Leningrad.

    • @RadX_98
      @RadX_98 Před rokem +8

      @@zeitgeistx5239 You’re denying it’s the bloodiest battle in history? Ok .. hahhahah

    • @AG26498
      @AG26498 Před rokem +20

      @@zeitgeistx5239 it IS the bloodiest battle in history. To give you a perspective. The casualties of Stalingrad where nearly 3 times as much as the ENTIRE Western front.

    • @walterfonk6287
      @walterfonk6287 Před rokem +2

      @@AG26498 that's a very intersting statistic, though where is its sources?(I won't deny its the deadliest battle, but 3 times the western front is too much)

    • @MichaelMyers87
      @MichaelMyers87 Před rokem +5

      @@zeitgeistx5239 The Siege of Leningrad was a long siege that was a split up into smaller battles over almost 2 and a half years. Not just 1 single battle.

  • @soumyadiptamajumder8795
    @soumyadiptamajumder8795 Před 4 měsíci +4

    On a strategic level the Soviet victory at Stalingrad marked the end of German offensive capabilities. Never again would the Axis powers be able to successfully launch a major offensive in world war 2. In terms of formations defeated, the Soviet destroyed the 6th German army, as well as the 2nd Hungarian army. The Romanian and Italian armies were also so bloodied that they more or less pulled out of the eastern front entirely, losing Germany over 1 million allied troops along with their own casualties.
    The immediate result territory wise of the victory at Stalingrad, was a general offensive long the entire Volga front, recapturing thousands of square miles and liberating millions of people who had been under Nazi occupation.
    In terms of Soviet capabilities, the Soviets learned 3 important lessons at Stalingrad.
    They learned how to plan major offensives in the long term. Prior to Stalingrad, the average planning time for Soviet offensives were just 2 weeks. Afterwards the planning time on average increased to over a month at the operational level, and half a year at the strategic level. Such as Kursk, which had a little over 40 days of preparation for the defense.
    The Soviets learned of the importance of a dedicated defensive doctrine, which was able to absorb large scale offensives in depth. Prior to Stalingrad the Soviets were desperately lacking defensive tactics. These new tactics would once again be tested at Kursk just a few months after Stalingrad.
    The Soviets learned how to fight in urban combat. The doctrine of Soviet assault platoons and squads was refined at Stalingrad, and was developed into a highly effective combined arms unit, which would form not only the core of all future urban combat, which the Soviets were much more successful with than most other nations in WW2, but also form an integral part of combined arms doctrine for most nations in the future. More than a little credit for this should go to Vasily Chuikov the Soviet commander of the 8th Guards army.
    The Soviets lost some of their oil supply as both Germans and Soviets tried to deny each other oil fields during the battle, it would take some time before Soviet oil supply was stabilized in the Caucasus region again. Obviously this also meant denying the Germans the oil supply permanently.
    Finally, after Stalingrad (and Kursk to some extent), other countries began believing in Soviet victory as well, and from the summer of 1943, western allied aid to the USSR increased a lot, when it was negotiated at the London protocol.
    Stalingrad is called the turning point of WW2 for a good reason.

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 Před rokem +3

    Thank you Indy and Timeghost for this treat! These maps really do show how close quarters and intense Stalingrad was. House to house, hand to hand, street by street...This battle was the epitome of meatgrinder.

  • @pokecraftmaster8781
    @pokecraftmaster8781 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for this! The Week by week one that was going on was starting to drive my head crazy with how much was happening, so a focus on Stalingrad is fantastic. Thank you!

  • @danielnavarro537
    @danielnavarro537 Před rokem +114

    How a year has passed from the major Battle of Stalingrad. And from the year of 1942, the Allies won a series of battles against the Axis. And the Axis now began to face a superior enemy. But in the year of 1942, everything hung in the balance. Godspeed to those who perished in the Battle of Stalingrad.

    • @hohooooooooify
      @hohooooooooify Před rokem +2

      Agree completely it's hard not to see German soldiers as the proverbial "bad guy's" in a situation like this even though I couldn't imagine a war like this was for either side

    • @DrJones20
      @DrJones20 Před rokem +3

      @@hohooooooooify huh?

    • @shashank1630
      @shashank1630 Před rokem +6

      @@hohooooooooify how are they bad? Everyone is shades of grey. Bias is the enemy of understanding history.

    • @hohooooooooify
      @hohooooooooify Před rokem

      @@shashank1630 "unprovoked attack"

    • @connorbranscombe6819
      @connorbranscombe6819 Před rokem +32

      @@shashank1630 Probably something to do with the 10+ million Soviet civilians they massacred, or the 600+ villages torched by the Wehrmacht as they marched into Belarus.
      600 villages massacred in BELARUS ALONE, but yeah why would ANYONE think the Germans are bad guys in WW2? Also yknow, they started the whole thing.

  • @devinevans5088
    @devinevans5088 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is truly an amazing series! I hope you guys plan to do more of these full map specials with other parts of the war. Honestly, it would be incredible if you did a video like this for the entire war, going through the frontline changes in a condensed version like you did here. Fantastic stuff!

  • @RahellOmer
    @RahellOmer Před rokem +2

    Thank you so much guys for the effort. Instant like before I even watch the video. Please make more of these kinds of videos to increase the attention/awareness of people to your channel. No one knows what week XYZ of ww2 means exactly, but when you mention Battle of ABC, suddenly people watch it, or even might pop up in their searches/recommendations!

  • @danyboy773
    @danyboy773 Před rokem +30

    What an absolute treat, huge props again to the insane quality of history content we get to experience on this amazing channel, big props to the whole team as usual 🙌

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem

      Thank you danyboy, we appreciate your kind words of support

  • @kantemirovskaya1lightninga30

    Thank you team for all putting this all together in one episode. This was a very drawn out battle and while I really enjoyed the week to week having it all recapped in one place is really nice. Thanks again, listened to it twice so far and will probably watch it again when I get home from work

  • @SKaspszak
    @SKaspszak Před 2 měsíci

    I have no idea how I missed this a year ago!!! This is EXACTPY what I have been wishing for all my life (at least the part of it that I have been obsessed with WW2 Eastern Front history...) thank you, bless you, I cannot be more grateful. This is the only battle my mind won't wrap fully around and a map special is the tool. Thank you

  • @lumburgapalooza
    @lumburgapalooza Před měsícem

    5:15
    The way you gave us those dimensions made it seem like you were just eyeballing it in real time on a hill overlooking the battlefield and I love it.

  • @elijahsdad
    @elijahsdad Před 9 měsíci +10

    I cannot imagine how much time and research went into this one video. This incredible amount of history has been provided to us for free. We are so lucky! Thank you, Indy!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 9 měsíci +3

      Wow, thank you! We work hard to ensure that we deliver the very best we can, comments like this go a long way for us.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 9 měsíci +3

      You're welcome! It was a colossal amount of time, BUT was spread out over most of a year writing the regular episodes. It was not quite as time consuming consolidating it all into one long special, though,

  • @jimward204
    @jimward204 Před rokem +3

    Thank you very much for your excellent portrayal of the battle I believe was the turning point of WWII in Europe. I have been a student of the Eastern Front of WWII for 55 years and this is the best map study I've seen to date. Again, thanks for all of the hard work!

  • @jacobmcdaniel6359
    @jacobmcdaniel6359 Před rokem +2

    I'm a huge fan of Kings and Generals and have been watching WW2 since about a month in. I literally giggled with glee at the idea of having the war map storytelling with Indy's narration. I frickin' love this channel. Thank you!!!!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +3

      We love you too, Jacob! Thank you for watching

  • @cynicalautist1774
    @cynicalautist1774 Před rokem +2

    I will gladly watch all this. I often feel way out of my depth with the weekly episodes. This really helps

  • @johnlambert2478
    @johnlambert2478 Před rokem +7

    Magnificent work. Things like this are just incredible displays of effort by the channel. My favorite WWII content since WWII In Color. Thanks for all your hard work guys!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +2

      Thank you, we are glad that you enjoy it.

  • @markmierzejewski9534
    @markmierzejewski9534 Před rokem +36

    78 years ago, on August 1, 1944, at 5:00 p.m. soldiers of the Polish Home Army began the Warsaw Uprising. " ZA NASZĄ i waszą wolność "

    • @robertm.8653
      @robertm.8653 Před rokem +1

      Warsaw RISE!!!

    • @starminor5682
      @starminor5682 Před rokem +1

      @@robertm.8653 do you remember when

    • @RadX_98
      @RadX_98 Před rokem

      All that bloodshed just to be re invaded by communist freaks, feel sorry for Polish people. Didn’t deserve to be invaded first by Nazis then commies.

    • @robertm.8653
      @robertm.8653 Před rokem

      @@starminor5682 when the N*zis forced their rule on Poland

    • @tsepzz4742
      @tsepzz4742 Před rokem +4

      Only tο be betrayed by both Commies and allies..
      Edit: typo

  • @mauricio-poppe
    @mauricio-poppe Před měsícem

    Incredible production, I was glued to my screen looking at how the battle unfold, thank you for your narration!

  • @jrhartley6742
    @jrhartley6742 Před rokem +2

    absolutely awesome, well done! like many always fascinated by the Stalingrad story, this was indeed the most fascinating detailed account ever, without question. Thanks so much.

  • @kouadio7274
    @kouadio7274 Před rokem +4

    When you guys posted the video I was like " 1 hr seems a bit long...". At 50mins I was like " only 10 mins left!? 1hr is definitely not long enough" LOL. Thanks again guys as usual great job, Much love to the Team ❤️
    ps: You got me addicted to your new visuals I can't get enough of it.

  • @cowgoesmoo3850
    @cowgoesmoo3850 Před rokem +1

    I absolutely love these videos, so far I have been stuck on yours, TKHistory and Dr. Felton's channels FOR MONTHS lol. I thoroughly enjoy them, keep up the good work 😎

  • @user-nn3pz1ef2n
    @user-nn3pz1ef2n Před rokem +1

    A great idea, doing this episode. I was expecting you would do such a collective episode, not so soon though. Congrats!!! Hearing about how soldiers reacted when operating Uranus is fascinating also......:))) cheers!

  • @brianazcona458
    @brianazcona458 Před rokem +3

    What a pleasant surprise! Thank you for putting it all together like this.

  • @kennethkorri7775
    @kennethkorri7775 Před rokem +7

    This is the kind of thing I've been waiting decades for ever since I got a West Point map book of all the major battles of WW2 after Saving Private Ryan came out and shifted my childhood love of WW2 history from the air war to the ground war.

  • @cws4u2
    @cws4u2 Před rokem

    I LOVE this, I'm watching every single episode, now only 7 months behind, but your content has made my love for history come back in full force

  • @davidcollins2648
    @davidcollins2648 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Maps the most informative graphics possible to describe complex actions such as Stalingrad and this was masterfully done with superb narration. Both sides in the conflict deserve praise for skill and bravery. Few wars were ever fought with such sustained intensity.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!

  • @pancakelover151
    @pancakelover151 Před rokem +5

    Thanks for this amazing video Indy! I cannot even grasp how much research and hard work went behind for creating this masterpiece

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +2

      Thank you!! Our team works hard on these episodes every week, and we can't do it without your support! Join the TimeGhost Army today and help us make more of those specials! www.patreon.com/join/timeghosthistory

    • @blackgate4735
      @blackgate4735 Před rokem

      @@WorldWarTwo now I have another favorite you tube channel. Good job👍

  • @Zzrik
    @Zzrik Před rokem +3

    Time ghost never seen to surprise me with the amazing effort and details they put into every episode, amazing work as always.

  • @brickmatt6776
    @brickmatt6776 Před rokem +1

    This video was amazing. The perfect kind of video to watch in chunks throughout the day. I really hope you do more of this type of video in the future! :)

  • @andreasharatsis4739
    @andreasharatsis4739 Před rokem +3

    thank you for this version of events covering the stalingrad battle, in your normal weekly coverage i tend to forget the previous weeks chain of events, this was great to see the offensives take place consecutively one after the other!!! very pleased!!! thank you!!!😁🤓😁

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Andreas!!

    • @andreasharatsis4739
      @andreasharatsis4739 Před rokem +1

      @@WorldWarTwo it's my pleasure!! thank you for replying! i have left comments on a few sites in you tube but you guys reply!! thanks for reading my comments!
      keep up the good work you do i really enjoy your content on the war!!

  • @ericfrehlich8800
    @ericfrehlich8800 Před rokem +3

    This is beautiful. Thank you Indy and team and the Time Ghost army!

  • @matthewrussell9417
    @matthewrussell9417 Před rokem +1

    Indy, you had my undivided attention the entire time. Your pacing is brilliant. Kudos to you and all involved. Keep up the superb work!!!

  • @Beanz192
    @Beanz192 Před 3 měsíci

    I would love to see more specials like this with other battles throughout the war. Unreal episode with so much information and attention to detail. I commend you all for the hard work!

  • @joelb8653
    @joelb8653 Před rokem +8

    That was amazing, like a master class. I'm so proud to be a member of the army.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 Před rokem +9

    I swear, just when we get lulled into a rhythm of videos, you surprise us with something new, different or special. It makes me excited daily to see if there is a new morsel awaiting! You really outdo yourself time after time! Thanks for the tireless work on bettering product and production! World War Two and all of the Time Ghost productions are definitely the best items I’ve found yet!

  • @speedmetal7476
    @speedmetal7476 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Про то что Сталин запретил эвакуацию ложь, эвакуация велась, но с ней опоздали, я сам живу в Волгограде поэтому знаю об этом

  • @Damorann
    @Damorann Před 19 dny

    I think you guys should do this format for a number of long and large battles. It is a great recap from the week by week scenario and it might give you guys more people to come to the channel as introduction videos.
    Great work.

  • @dry5555
    @dry5555 Před rokem +1

    Best I've seen on Stalingrad. Amazing detail. Thank you.

  • @neilaleksandrov2655
    @neilaleksandrov2655 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Wow this beats most documentaries on this battle.. play by play, beautiful

  • @mick2403
    @mick2403 Před rokem +5

    Cant believe its been 8 years since i first saw Indy on TGW in 2014. Couldnt be happier that we're still doin world war history

  • @dant0s
    @dant0s Před 8 měsíci +1

    That was very interesting and well done! Could there be possibility to add the casualties or the strenght numbers of each devision? That would be also very interesting to see

  • @realdylanoof
    @realdylanoof Před rokem +2

    My 2 favorite youtubers collaborating, I love it!

  • @acdcdave1387
    @acdcdave1387 Před rokem +22

    Wow, I didn't expect such a massive video. Thanks for all your hard work Timeghost, I sincerely appreciate this ;)

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +3

      Thank you David, your words mean a lot to us. Stay tuned

  • @stevew6138
    @stevew6138 Před rokem +19

    Yep, a map special on these epic battles is a boon to us history buffs.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +2

      Thanks steve, glad you liked it

    • @rathernotsay8185
      @rathernotsay8185 Před rokem

      If you are interested in that, try TIK history’s battlestorm series on Stalingrad

    • @WILLIAMSMITH-zu7uh
      @WILLIAMSMITH-zu7uh Před rokem

      I requested before that grid lines be imposed and just seen this. What an effort to show the proximity of advances, retreats and close combat. I early on got so impressed by the content and great bibliography credits it my longest viewing series on You Tube. I learned at an early age in a neighborhood of 101st Airborne veterans as well as a friends dad being a Darby Ranger many nuances of the War. A few episodes ago Indy sang an airborne troop song I hadn't hear since 1966 by one these veterans sons. He ain't gonna jump no more.

  • @bozboz4414
    @bozboz4414 Před rokem

    This channel as a whole is one of if not the very best WW2 documentary ever made...quality, well researched content...CZcams at it's very best

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem

      Thank you for the high praise. We couldn't do it without the support of the TimeGhost Army. Stay tuned

  • @pablopeter3564
    @pablopeter3564 Před 9 měsíci

    EXCELLENT presentation and graphics. CONGRATULATIONS. This is a historical marvel and magnificient tool for studying the battle of Stalingrad. Greetings from Mexico City.

  • @TheGhost204
    @TheGhost204 Před rokem +4

    Nice. I’ve been hoping you’d do this for the entire German-Russian theatre/war after the series is finished.

  • @wacko031290
    @wacko031290 Před rokem +3

    This sort of content is my jam! Whenever Kings and Generals put out super cuts of their various series I'm on it! Hopefully this sort of stuff can be done for other battles as well like Kursk or North Africa

    • @TheSword2212
      @TheSword2212 Před rokem

      What do you think is better, this Stalingrad series or TIKHistorys?

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 Před rokem +1

    I can't imagine the amount of research that went into this amazing presentation. Great job it was extremely interesting 👍

  • @horstschlemmer877
    @horstschlemmer877 Před rokem +1

    incredible work, brings history much more close!!

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Před rokem +6

    Great job Indy & team.

  • @razorboy251
    @razorboy251 Před rokem +4

    Good Lord what an epic video! I hope we'll get as big a map recap for D-Day and Bagration. :)

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +1

      Except for simply not having the time, there is one thing that ties our hands in creating major special projects like this one- getting the funding to actually be able to produce it.
      It is highly unlikely that we could raise the hundreds of thousands of Euro to do a project like this one on Bagration for example. People who are interested in and study the war know of it, but the mainstream audience doesn't, and to raise the kind of money needed we'd have to have a project that appeals to the mainstream.
      There's also the point that covering the events of a single day plays into our chronological narrative, while Bagration covers weeks, as do many other such "highlights" of the war. Any big special project needs a format, a "packaging" that works, and a hook- for D-Day it's easy; it's 24 hours of coverage. But what would it be for Bagration?
      As for doing a huge Stalingrad something or other- that's big enough in people's minds, but it would've had to begin being worked on back in January (at least), and by then we had just finished the Pearl Harbor Minute-by-Minute, so realistically we wouldn't have been able to get the financing for a new special project together so quickly.
      Also, after working 70 hour weeks on Pearl Harbor for months, nobody on the team was in any shape to dive into a new extra workload on top of the regular content work straight away.
      Because that is the reality of it: any special project we do is indeed extra, and is done on top of the work we do with the regular content, which is well over 40 hour weeks as it stands. We still plan on doing all sorts of specials and extra regular episodes and things like that for all major events of the war, so it's not like we're actually leaving something out.

  • @SagaraUrz
    @SagaraUrz Před 8 měsíci

    I approve. More like this, it's a good, condensed way of watching a campaign from all the videos you guys made.

  • @muhaumar
    @muhaumar Před 8 měsíci

    I've watched this at least 3 times so far.
    Beautiful documentary

  • @jasondrew5768
    @jasondrew5768 Před rokem +3

    Good video Indy and your excellent team!

  • @bwv1044
    @bwv1044 Před rokem +3

    31:32 "Battle for Martenovskii shop" by Army University Press CZcams channel is highly recomended. You can see there exactly how the assault looked like on Red Ocober Factory in game like visuals.

  • @RoboticDragon
    @RoboticDragon Před rokem +1

    What a tremendous video you guys, so proud to be a member of the Time Ghost Army. Amazing.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +1

      Thank you RoboticDragon. Can't thank you enough for your support

  • @migueltc4210
    @migueltc4210 Před 4 dny

    Man, the whole 1km deep front for the Soviets and the closing of the circle of nazis in Stalingrad parts make me feel overwhelmed.
    just think of the sheer amount of stress and panic someone would feel being a soldier in this battle freezes my blood. I mean any battle might be hell, you are risking your life but this kind of desperate moments surpasses me

  • @mukhtarsyajaratun1025
    @mukhtarsyajaratun1025 Před 6 měsíci +3

    many people doesnt realised that the Germans seem to lack success on their strategic objective contrary to their tactical success. while the Soviet may have been pushed several times managed to gain their strategic objective in later operations as strategic operations was their utmost priority to gain more and more favourable positions in the front

  • @markreetz1001
    @markreetz1001 Před rokem +5

    Okay, so you're telling me Von Manstein, didn't save Paules, Goring couldn't keep Paulus supplied, Paulus never broke out? What a revolting development this is! Gee, didn't see that coming!! Great stuff Indy. I didn't think I would stay interested through the whole thing but I did! Very enjoyable learning about all this at the same time. Week to week is great, but it's nice to hear it being all put together!

    • @WILLIAMSMITH-zu7uh
      @WILLIAMSMITH-zu7uh Před rokem +1

      Like your perspective as I learned from this channel Paulus was sent to North Africa to attempt to stop Rommel's advances and supply usage knowing Barbarossa was coming and the materials would be needed- which was not shared with Rommel. Now Indy says and sites letters sent by Paulus to wife with his failure to stop Rommel and wanted to take command of Africa Corps she replied he would serve a greater purpose in Barbarossa knowing full well what Rommel didn't. Thanks Indy.

  • @teseucamps4832
    @teseucamps4832 Před 9 měsíci

    Amazing vid! What a treat, can't believe i missed it when it came out!

  • @WILLIAMSMITH-zu7uh
    @WILLIAMSMITH-zu7uh Před rokem

    Wow I asked for map grid lines and what a response. I knew a lot but always wondered exactly how far way was the enemy, how intense and anxious the soldiers were as the space between them and death diminished. Your contribution to WWII is clarity, content and the mindsets involved all at once. I just watched-missed a few episodes but caught up now. For the next challenge I researched the sinking of the HMS Lawford a few days after D-Day by a glide bomb- yet somewhere during Anzio we had succeeded in jamming the Fritz-X? The HMS Lawford had the latest tech available so I conclude the Germans knew this because there were plenty of targets available.

  • @GopaiCheems
    @GopaiCheems Před rokem +5

    Yeeees! The Barbarossa map video was so great, hope this one is as good if not better!

  • @yourfriendlyneighbor-_-2898

    Imagine repeatedly telling your men "come on lads one more final assault"

  • @toddcoteeagle8493
    @toddcoteeagle8493 Před rokem +1

    You guys do not disappoint. This is another in a series of excellently created and presented pieces on the second world War. Thank you to all who helped to bring this to fruition.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem

      Thank you Todd. It warms our hearts hearing from so many history enthusiasts like you. Stay tuned

  • @HA55RBOG
    @HA55RBOG Před rokem +2

    Amazing work! Thank you for your effort.
    And scary to see what humans do to each other ...

  • @dadardad
    @dadardad Před rokem +5

    This is amazing work and I was always dreaming to watch such video, this video is really masterpiece, and I can't find the suitable words to thank everyone whom participated in making it.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  Před rokem +1

      Your words do us great honor, you have found the suitable words perfectly my friend. Stay tuned for more historical coverage

    • @dadardad
      @dadardad Před rokem +1

      @@WorldWarTwo Thanks again and I am sure that everyone is looking forward to watch similar masterpiece about Battle of Kursk, I know in the timeline coverage it is still on as we are in the first week of August 1943 but I know that you will consider to do it when it possible..
      Regards from Iraq

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 Před rokem +9

    Time for mega maps

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino Před rokem +2

    Excellent! I hope to see more of these in the future.. Wish you had thought of this during your first world war series.. any chance you could do a breakdown of some of those battles? I do not play games how ever.. Especially when it is about war.. war is not something that is played at but fought.. Carry on! Thanks

  • @Creationeer
    @Creationeer Před rokem +2

    Great video team, it showed great detail in how units and fronts moved.

  • @cecilstehelin1277
    @cecilstehelin1277 Před rokem +27

    Really interesting how the Soviets (intentionally or not) used the German’s strengths against them. Allowing the unstoppable armoured spearhead to charge deep into enemy territory and become entangled then, attacking the weak flanks. It’s like Tai chi or something, redirecting your enemies punch back against them lol.

    • @aprilecotton2060
      @aprilecotton2060 Před 10 měsíci

      It was not planning. It was the fact stalin was throwing millions of teenagers into a corpse grinder, even germany wasnt that evil. How could they account for this. No one in their right mind would send 1 million kids into machine gun fire without a weapon, but stalin did and won. Sad and pathetic

    • @seankauder9721
      @seankauder9721 Před 9 měsíci +2

      It's like a repeat of Hannibal's victory at Cannae

    • @seankauder9721
      @seankauder9721 Před 9 měsíci

      @presidenteden6498 I'm talking about the specifics of how the encirclement happened. The attacking army has a very strong center with much weaker forces from foreign vassal states covering the flanks. The defending army deliberately moves their strongest forces to the flanks, allows their center to retreat from the stronger center of the attacking force until a bulge is formed, then the defending army uses their strongest forces to attack the flanks and complete the encirclement.
      This is almost exactly what happened at Cannae, except Hannibal was outnumbered 2:1 and still managed to win a crushing victory, demonstrating the effectiveness of the double encriclement tactic

    • @aprilecotton2060
      @aprilecotton2060 Před 9 měsíci

      @@seankauder9721 remember, the USSR didn’t have any strong units or divisions. Sadly stalin had no issue sending in 8 million 16-18 year olds with no weapons or armor, dying to machine guns, to win. It had nothing to do with tactics. The germans were killing 50 to 1, but sadly they could not account for such sadistic tactics from stalin. They did not fall for a trap, they literally just got overran but young boys

    • @slavikfurious890
      @slavikfurious890 Před 8 měsíci

      @@aprilecotton2060 Please, try to watch none of the films like "Enemy at the Gates" or play games like Call of Duty. It is totally fake for more hipe.
      Meanwhile, that time if your age is lower than 18 you couldn't get in the Red Army even if you will - first documentary check in military enlistment office and "sorry, no way, go home". If they dont check it, the chief of the office can be imprisoned by NKVD. You dont believe but many volunteers lied on his age, faking the passport just to participate in defending their motherland.
      People under the age of 18 were often evacuated and working in the plants far away from the front. Or were volunteers in fireman brigades (such it was in Leningrad), or were working in the hospitals or field medics.
      And that time nobody has any armor other than a helmet, lol.
      I strongly recommend to read about this battle and about all eastern front totally a memories by Helmut Weltz "Verratene Grenadiere" (Betrayed soldiers).