New KLIPSCH RP-6000F II = Big Fun!
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0:00 Intro
1:22 RP-6000F Details
4:31 Specs
5:10 Set up
7:21 Listening to Music
9:53 What about bass?
11:11 RP-6000F II vs. RP-600M II
13:03 Two watts drives the RP-6000F II
15:16 RP-6000F II vs. Buchardt S400 II
21:11 So Steve, what do you really think?
22:42 Audiophiliac Viewer System of the Day!
23:38 Outro
Steve’s System:
Technics SL 1200G turntable
Grado Epoch 3 cartridge
Parasound JC3+ phono preamp
Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC
Jay’s Audio CD Transport www.jays-audio.com/
Pass Labs XP30 preamp
Pass Labs XA25 power amp www.passlabs.com/products/xa25/
First Watt J2 power amp www.firstwatt.com/j2.html
Decware Zen Triode
Klipsch Cornwall IV speakers • Klipsch Cornwall IV wi... - Věda a technologie
There's an Audiophiliac imposter scamming my viewers, DON'T respond! I don't do giveaways or ask for money (except for my Patreon).
There so many impersonators, scammers crawling around like maggots that I never trust these offers.
@@artyfhartie2269 Same here If impersonating Steve just ask a tough audio question you know the answer to.
@@robertliskey420 You mean like in a Hitchcock movie like Vertigo?
@@artyfhartie2269 Na nothing that easy I would ask what is The silent giant that is built to last.....Probably forever. Steve will know!
So do kliptch pay you
Always cool to see reasonably priced speakers that can get you this excited, Steve! Thanks for another great one!
Always enjoy your videos Steve. I'm aiming on the 6000F II since several months ago. No more hesitating!
Like fine wine, you just keep getting better Steve! Well done indeed! Love the way you covered so many electronic combinations and musical styles. I shall soon dive in to your eclectic music choices. Thanks! Your grateful “morsel level” patron.
Hi Steve. Beautiful system of the day. You have a knack making the excitement of your music as much as the product. Thanks for a great review. Greg
Kudos on posting a longer video. You were able to cover so much more than in your shorter videos. I like to geek out on the details and your impressions.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching, it was longer because I had more to say! The shorter ones are shorter because there’s less to say.
Listening to the Jane Ira record you mentioned, on my klipsch rf 7-II. OMG. Thank you, man, you do a really great job!
Time seems insignificant when someone makes it fun to listen to your favorite hobby.
Thanks Steve! - You and the Wife have a nice Weekend!
- m.
The room and the shirt blends in all so well in audio terms Smoooooth 😎🙂👍
Love your work Steve! Thanks so much for the music recommendations! Graffiti Jazz is a winner!
Just a great review, THANK YOU.
Love your shirt Steve ,……and your review’s .
You hit the nail on the head......One of the best attributes of my Klipsch are how well they play at low volumes. Absolutely love mine!
Snob approved speakers sound pretty bad until they are medium loud. They don't get really loud so they only have one good (narrow) window of listening volume. I don't do the low efficiency snob speakers anymore. zzzz.
Steve, your channel has really grown on me. To be honest, the first few videos I watched of yours were hard for me to get into but now I'm hooked. It was this video that really got me. I'll be signing up for your Patreon shortly. Your videos are so thoughtful. I learn a lot from every video and I really appreciate the effort you put into this. To some extent I see a lot of myself in your thought process. I feel like I'm always too wordy and it might be hard for some people to get into your videos but they'll be hooked once they do. I actually have the RP-6000F Mark IIs for my home theater and streamer/DAC setup. I replaced the Klipsch R-625FAs I got from Costco (basically home theater system in a box). I don't have a super ideal setup. I have a Denon X6700H receiver. For music I have a Bluesound Node with USB connected to the SMSL VMV D1se DAC connected to the receiver. For the 6000Fs I don't have any nice amps. I have some Niles SI-2150 class D amps connected to the preouts of my Denon AVR. I have 1 of those each in bridged mono mode for the 6000Fii low frequency side. For the 6000Fii HF I have one Niles SI-2100 class D stereo amp. I'm almost ashamed to say I use class D amps because my audiophile friend says class A amps are superior. Anyways I digress. Your next video had started playing on my smart TV. Cheers!
The nicest funnest indepth revier i like , enthusiasm is so addictive
I'm new to your channel and I must say I really enjoy your reviews. You articulate so clearly what you enjoy in music and how they are conveyed to you through your review speakers. I have a pair of modified RP160M's and I totally agree about the ability of Klipsch speakers to play very quietly without sacrificing highs and lows or clarity of sound and the sound remains balanced, top to bottom. Thank you for your excellent reviews.
Thank you for watching!
Great music, thanks for that!
Graffiti Jazz....outstanding. Thanks Steve. Hi from Wales, UK. Edward.
Agreed, nice desgn and size, love them
Hi Steve I watch you daily from Victoria BC Canada.
Another fun video, always appreciate your passion.
Ive never heard a horn speaker I could live with (I despise the way they project sound at you), so Im obviously not interested in the product, whilst conceeding some will love them.
I really tune in to hear your exuberance and pick up some ideas of tunes I might not have heard. You never fail to make an interesting video, even if its about some hifi of zero interest to me, and im always glad I watched.
Thanks, I really appreciate that. Have a great day.
Great review, Steve! In line with my findings. Yes, they are not perfect or for everybody but they have their charms. And I like the Kubrick 2001 look also, haha.
Thank you for the Graffiti Jazz recommendation!
I was surprised by how much you liked the Klipsch. They seem like a love them or dislike them speaker. They are so much more affordable. Thanks.
Finally! You said it! " if you wanna play music loud..." go big!!
Great take on a super relevant speaker. I took advantage of the new line to buy a pair of the discontinued RP 6000s for a cool $750 and they're extraordinary. Just right for my room. The only obvious differences I can see in the Mark II are twin bass ports instead of one and the extra speaker connects for Atmos. I don't even want to know if the new line is a meaningful sonic upgrade. Oh who am I kidding? Of course I want to know. Steve or anyone - had a chance to do a direct comparison?
Now I want to buy this. Great salesman video.
I want to buy most everything Steve reviews.
Steve, regarding the Viewer System of the Day's amplifier: The VTA M-125 mono blocks are 125 watt amplifiers designed by Bob Latino and sold on-line at tubes4hifi by Roy Mottram. They are generally sold as kits, but Roy will build it for you at additional cost. They are powerful push-pull amps that can drive KT88 tubes among others. I built a pair and use them in my home theater for two channel stereo.
I have the Klipsch R-28f speakers fed by a 2000 Harman Kardon HK3370 through the speaker level inputs/ outputs of a Velodyne 12 inch sub. This affordable system sounds great at any volume.
Great show! I really enjoyed this. Thanks for the variety of set ups. I am a big fan of the reasonably priced set ups for those just trying to get in the game. Sounds like a terrific speaker. Man, you chose some terrific music options. Kraftwerk and Billi Eilish? We need to hang out! Loved the viewer system too! Props for the Van Alstine amplifier! Fabulous!
I have kraftwerk, but don't do drugs so Billy Ellish is out. Listening to her, I feel like I need to go to rehab.
The deep base in the David Chesky Graffiti Jazz album is really deep. Very different. I like it.
To add to this.. I am really enjoying "GRAFFITI JAZZ by David Chesky". I am a Klipsch owner of 8 sets. Most recent the RF-7iii's. However, this jazz is rocking my older Klipsch KG4's. Without a sub they do fine! Thanks for all the info and especially the music suggestions. Love it.
I like my RP8000f's b/c they are tall and deep in my long deep living room so fit well and sound pretty pretty awesome. I can get behind them to access my cd shelves whereas wide speakers become obstacles in such a space. They also function well in my home theater 5.2 setup. Finally, bi-wiring these speakers does take the stereo musicality aspect to a whole other level. It helps bring the mid and top end alive and tighter bass.
Notes taken on music to listen to Steve. I can relate to this review, having listened with Klipsch speakers and similar gear. I'm happy with my Klipsch Heresy IV, but the other Klipsch have their merits. Klipsch are highly available, so perhaps not appreciated enough by those who have never listened to music with them.
Must have been a really good pot of coffee for you their Steve. You were going good with this review, you woke me out of my stupor on a Friday afternoon......lol
Have a great weekend.
You're right as with everything "size matters" ......lol
Great review Steve Guttenberg we can always count on your point on review..no fuss..spot on.How many dbs is your 👕 ???? Make it a great day. Turn it up.
And hey, man, I was at that Talking Heads show, live in Central Park! An awesome record of all time!
Steve regarding the viewer system the VTA M-125 are 125 watt monoblock kits from tubesforhifi and are based off of the 60W Dynaco Mark IIIs. I'm currently building their St-70 35W amp which is based on the Dynaco ST-70 but has the option of using KT-88 tubes rather than the original EL-34s.
Great review... but I recently appreciate your music recommendations. Never heard Chensky before, but damn, loving Graffiti Jazz.
Got the wharfdale Evo 44s superb.my end game Steve👍👌
I have the RP 600M mk2s and absolutely love them paired to a Muzishare X7 tube amp and a Sansui AU555a as a preamp. Would love to uograde to the 8000f but i think they'd be a bit too big for my room, so maybe the 6000F might work. Both models are on sale in Australia at the moment too.
Also enjoying the David Chesky album! Thanks for the tip, Steve 👍
The 8000fII definitely need space like anything else with strong bass into the 30's. That being said, in a smaller room, the 600mII would sound better. There is nothing macho about putting big speakers into small rooms.
First time listener from Australia
Welcome, thanks for watching.
Good review Steve!
I have a pair of RP8000F speakers that I purchased as part of my “downsizing” exercise (I figured their footprint is much the same as a stand mount and I really couldn’t go from the sound of my old Altecs or open baffle speakers to a real stand mount with any comfort). One thing I don’t understand is why so many users, and Klipsch themselves, insist that only amplifiers of around 150W or greater are suitable. I’ve been playing with music systems since 1969, and I do understand the old headroom thing, dynamics and bass control, but these things can be achieved with a smaller basket of watts than so many suggest - I think you showed this pretty well in this review and earlier ones you’ve done. Am I missing something? I don’t want to “piss off the neighbours” (well, not usually), what I want is a pleasurable music experience.
Thanks for your reviews - love your work! 👍
I purchased a pair of "damaged" new in he box RPF8000's about a year ago for $750. I "repaired" them with a black paint pen and couldn't be happier.
I've had large klispch for years and they sound fine with a 100 watt amp even though I run mine with a 35 watt tube amp just because I like tubes
Ya I mean I drive mine with a 150 watt amp and at 65/100 on volume I reach 95+ decibels and nearly blow my ear drums out…….and that’s standing 15 feet away
I’m sure a smaller amp would be fine
Smaler amp can play them afcourse. But as other reviewers measured them, they are more close to 90db. And for 90db you are better off with somewhat stronger amps.
Even their bigger brother rp8000f stated as 98db, have in reality no more than 93db. I compare them to my diy speakers and on the same amplifier they played just as loud as mine, and mine are measured to 92,8db sensitivity.
They are realy great speakers othervise. I do miss some mids on them, as they have a dip from 1000 to 2000hz folowed by big steap to 3000hz. They are not the best with vocals.
So glad to see the guys in Indianapolis up their game on the big box speakers .. the gap is still enormous between them and the Arkansas built Heritage line but no longer a shame to the name !
I play minerf7 classic.,late at night in my garage at low levels..so much depth and demention still.. Just incredible detail
Great review
Will u be reviewing klipsch rp 8000f ii
Awesome stuff. Let's hear that new ZZ Top Raw soundtrack and your thoughts. It being raw, I thought it sounded amazing.
THANKS for this review Steve !!!!! I currently own the 600m's ( Originals) , FORTE's (Series I) as well as the RF-5s, (2) RC3-II centers ,And the RF7-III s ...ALL Different, but i LOVE them all ... I''m taking my RF 7-IIIs with me when my time is up 🥰 A KLIPSCH fan for LIFE... And a fan of YOURS for LIFE !!!
Thank you!
Always solid and lots of insight musically and with passion. FYI that most of review has a different speaker in background and would love to see more of the Klipsch
Thanks for another great video Steve. I love your enthusiasm and how subjective enjoyment and the extent to which it makes you want to listen to music are significant in your reviews.
I have the previous version of the RP 6000F with a Rega Brio integrated and ProJect Debut Carbon Evo. Basic but sounds lovely to my ears. Can you recommend a subwoofer to pair with these speakers? Any advice much appreciated.
REL or Hsu Research 10 inch models
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Super. Thanks very much Steve. Appreciate it.
Steve. I do DIY exclusively by now. I just got the boxes of "stuff" to build 3Pi speakers. I'll give you real look at progress so as to see your not getting trash. I live in NJ and work for the choo choo that visits you many times a day. We coud do a quick drop, unless yu want me over for a bit. Besides the speakers I NEVER show up empty handed. Wine, beer, food, shrooms.....for fondue. Your call. I could bring my F6 clone and if I get busy an M2X. I's love to see what you think of DIY under direction
Steve I believe that VTA amp is built by Bob Latino. He also sells and builds the VTA ST70, which is a modernized version of the legendary Dynaco ST 70. The letter M of course is for mono, as in mono blocks. One of my dream audiophiliac reviews would be to hear your comparison of the deckware amplifier to an ST 70. Or, the M120. Bob’s company is tubes for hi-fi
It was interesting to hear your thoughts on how they stack up paired with your hi end gear too as I only have mid fi gear.
Experienced viewers of The Audiophiliac know that, even if you look at the title and think, "Really? . . . another Klipsch speaker review?" you watch the segment anyway... there's always some cool music you get turned on to and the viewer system segments are really a nice touch too.
I liked that two speakers from the same company were compared, three if you count the Forte IV, it helps point out what spending twice as much on Klipsch speakers sounds like, at least to Steve's highly experienced ears.
Steve Guttenberg - ARP synthesizer on David Chesky's Sun Club. well, well, well!!!! If it isn't Mr Audiophiliac himself :D
stellar album
How would this compare to the 8000f? Another fun review, thanks.
Still have my Rf-82 ii's going strong 10 years later.
I’d love to see a review of that beautiful rf7iii?
I wish that more speaker manufacturers voiced their speakers for grilles on. I never really cared to look at the drivers in a loudspeaker - I don’t want to know how the “sausage is made” and find myself staring at them instead of closing my eyes and really listening. I had the LS50s and actually returned the “standard” piano black/gold driver for an all flat black pair for this reason.
I realize that many owners do prefer to see the drivers and that voicing them with grilles on can be an issue. One solution might be to specify how they are voiced could help, though it would likely limit the potential audience. Another would be to include a switch to boost or cut midrange/treble as KLH and some others do.
Also, some grilles are really poorly designed as cause all sorts of diffraction issues. The Tektons I auditioned had really rudimentary grilles with severely raised non-magnetic frames. I’m also not fond of my own Buchardt solutions. Those circular grilles are not great. At least they are all black. Maybe I’ll be able to find a huge stretch sock to put them in 😂
Can you review Osborn speakers I was blown away cheers from oz
Funny you mention the high sensitivity. With all the other Klipsch speakers they are measured in room which “I’m assuming the same with these” skews the measurement to be higher than it is in reality compared to most other speaker manufacturers measurements.
Klipsch has a sound that many people like. I've owned multiple Klipsch speakers & enjoyed them. The sensitivity is not what they state though. If they say 96db, it's actually closer to 90db.
Well they do state in their spec sheet it's measured in room not all rooms are equal but in room with walls elevating it could get to 96db in a small bedroom easily 96 db but in a super large room more like 90 db but even then 90db is still extremely sensitive anything about 87db is easy to drive
@bum krilla true. It's just kind of a shady business practice. Like you said, not all rooms are the same. Plus, the avg person looking to purchase may know to look for a higher sensitivity stat but not realize Klipsch measures/lists it differently than most other brands.
@double T most people will never have a sensitivity problem with their speakers because even the cheapest stuff will play them loud and they sound decent with almost anything and most people are more concerned about rms when they are new to the community so I see many people hooking them up to emotive bass x 250 watt per channel amp which for 90db sensitivity is pretty over Kill
The first thing you think about in the morning ? Bagel or base response ?
Happy early birthday Audiophiliac channel!
All heritage speakers look elegant. The lambswool grills are the only wife approved speakers I’ve ever owned
I’m still rocking Chorus ii’s. What is different with these modern speakers? And, better with the American made line?
I got mine from Fry’s Electronics when they were going out of business for 50% off 😃
Would like to compare these to new Zu entry 6s.
being a hard core traditionalist when it comes to speaker appearance i like the prefer the color of the drivers to be black and the front grilles to be black as well.this way i cannot see the drivers when i am listening.if i were to get a pair of the new canton reference series speakers i would have to spray paint the white drivers black.
Where did you get this amazing Shirt? Thanks for the great Review!
Thanks for the review. Did you have a chance to review the RP-8000 II's ? I'm wondering between the 6000 and that one, so your opinion would help in deciding.
I was wondering how my klipsch towers would sound with a tube amp because they are so efficient. I am currently running mine with a Marantz AV7001 processor and Rotel amps
Steve do me a favor would you take a look at the different available balanced turntables available so I can run a fully balanced vinyl rig. I have seen to the TeAac TN5 BB and the Pro-Ject X8 I also saw one with an acrylic rice paper platter but I can't really remember the details. I'd like to know what do you think the advantages might be of running a fully balanced turntable into a fully balanced Phono pre
I have the Decware ZP3 Phono Pre on order and the Decware Zen triode SE 34-6 integrated amplifier. If you could take a look at this overlook segment a vinyl reproduction within the next year or so cause I have these items coming in about a year or more for the wait list oh
Curious if you might review JTR speakers at some point? Seems JTR takes a lot of what Klipsch does but takes it to the next level.
Is this probably what you would class as one of the best budget floorstander?, I’ve only heard one horn speaker and that was a zingali bookshelf in a glasgow shop and a lot more expensive but a very impressive sound.
Hello what is your opinion, I am between the old 8000F which has more bass and the 6000F II . Which is better ????
I really really really appreciate you telling us where these and other things are made. I am doing my best to stay away from anything china made. As I’m sure you are well aware of, this is unfortunately almost impossible in todays age. But more and more, I AM willing to pay more for American engineered and manufactured products. I certainly will buy Japanese made electronics and vehicles. I’m not ruling out everyone but….NOT cHINA! NO WAY! So thank you again and I really enjoy your podcasts!
@@welshrarebit9238 I’m sure the products are just fine. I have no doubt that the people of china are great at their craft. My problem is purely political, with the government, their humanitarian perspective or lack there of and the communist regime. They have us under their thumb and they know it. Not to mention the pandemic that killed a million Americans. So I’m happy to save my money to buy more expensive American made speakers and products. Completely not trying to be a smart aleck, that’s just my point of view.
Would you pair the RP-6000F II with RP-404C II or RP-504C II center speaker?
Hi Steve, hope you're doing good. I'm exploring options to buy some new good devices for my music room. I currently have a Yamaha R-N602 with a pair of speakers Yamaha NS-F330. I thought of getting the Marantz PM7000N and the Klipsch RP-6000F (which I could see on your review from CZcams). I picked those options based on my budget but I'm not sure if that would be a good combination to set up. My turntable will remain the same, it's an Audio-Technica AT-LP140XP which has an Ortofon 2M Red mounted in it. Any comments will be highly appreciated
How do they compare to the RF7 III? I have the RF7 but want to add something to my new mad cave. I love the RF7 for sure but priced a bit out of my desire for the man cave
Can you please add the music that you mentioned in the video to the description?
What is the exact difference between this speaker and the 300?
Steve, where did you get those sound diffusers behind you on the wall?
GIK Acoustics
Can you please review Pearl acoustics sibelius speakers?
I'm thinking up upgrading my RP-600Miis with the RP-6000Fiis and eventually (I don't have room now) use the bookshelf speakers as surrounds (currently have 4 tiny little Polk satellites). I noticed that the original RP6000Fs go lower in the bass by 4 dB. and the XO varies by 30 hz. Would either make any discernable difference? I use it with a Denon X4700 running into a Tonewinner amp. If they're still available, I can get some B-stock 6000Fiis for $750.
Excellent Bass Track = 'Action Reaction' from Wonder Woman Soundtrack -- Leave it to Steve for a happy exciting Klipsch Review
Hi Steve.. Tell us about the importance of racks..:)
wrong channel
Natural hearing loss affects everyone starting in your late 20s, at the latest. Have you done an in depth video on exactly how hearing loss has directly affected you?
But what I'd REALLY like to know is.... how do the original 6000F stand up against the 6000F II? Just how much improvement is there?
RP-280f vs RP800f or even the 8000f-II ?
Will these be a significant upgrade from my 10 year old rp280f? Thank you
I loved the great soundstage my Klipschs gave me but the top end killed me, what would be a good speaker that has clear sound but not ear bleeders?
GoldenEar BRX
The Buck Hearts 🤣
Curious if you have ever spent any time with the klipsch rf7 iii?
10+ years ago I reviewed the version that was out then. For Home Theater magazine.
i heard they are weak in bass extension, are they worth buying?
Hello!
Have you ever heard Dynavoice Challenger M65 V4? I have a pair of these and I’m considering upgrading at the next year with klipsch RP6000. Thanks
The aquatic energy eilite3 go 34 Hz same 2 6 inch woffers
Are they good for Deicide, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Limbonic Art, etc ?
TY in advance
Steve, have you tried playing pipe organ recordings (beyond Saint-Saens Symphony #3)? Even the Hans Zimmer recordings of the Interstellar soundtrack would give you some depth and bass.
As mentioned in the video yes I did hear a pipe organ recording, which sounded wonderful. But it wasn’t classical music
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac You know, once it's 'out there', you can't take it back! Egg's on my face today!
Are they better and have more bass than the 8inch F300 by klipsch??
Hi...what is minimum disstance to the back wall for 6000fII?
Ty