Why do I like these better than the Heresy? Klipsch RP 6000F Review

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Komentáře • 385

  • @industryrule-4080
    @industryrule-4080 Před 2 lety +28

    Glad you emphasized that the speakers have personality and that it’s perfectly OK. I roll my eyes when reviewers are chasing some bliss in flatness. No live music setup is ever flat. No recording studio ever sounds flat. It’s always about personality.

    • @kingtrance307
      @kingtrance307 Před 2 lety +4

      Actually recording studios are all about playback using flat monitors.

    • @ap5672
      @ap5672 Před rokem +1

      @@kingtrance307 The monitors are flat but people's tastes are not.

    • @kingtrance307
      @kingtrance307 Před rokem

      @@ap5672 - That’s a partially accurate statement. Some folks indeed prefer a flat and neutral sound and others most definitely do not. When listening with gear at home - it’s all just personal preference when it comes down to it.

    • @matejpodlesnik6538
      @matejpodlesnik6538 Před rokem

      All speakers try to simulate flat responce more or less. If you like just one tipe of music you can get away with as you said speakers with character that suit you music stile. But if you listen to whole spectre of music genres you need that flat responce because othervise you will miss those toned down frequecies.

    • @BookClubDisaster
      @BookClubDisaster Před 4 měsíci

      Exactly. "Neutral" is an illusion. Even if studio speakers are flat, the recording is often not mixed that way. MAYBE jazz and classical. But do you think Nuttin But G Thang is flat? How about Free Fallin'? Flat doesn't sell records, boosted bass and/or treble does, V shapes do. But even if we disregard recordings and PA's, flat often isn't even there in the actual sound of the music. Guitar amps are often not flat and even if they are capable of it, many guitar players go heavy on the treble or the bass. So audiophiles are chasing a fantom that just isn't there.

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  • @yanrad
    @yanrad Před 2 lety +1

    Your videos are such a delightful treat! Thank you Randy!

  • @BryanRuby
    @BryanRuby Před 2 lety +41

    With so many reviews Klipsch RP-8000F out there, glad to see a review of the RP-6000F.

    • @BryanRuby
      @BryanRuby Před 2 lety +2

      So I finally got to a store with an audio room and compared the RP-6000F with the RP-8000F. I have to say I liked the mid-range on the 8000F better than the 6000F. But here is the problem, I think I still prefer my old Athena Technologies AS-F1 speakers over the Klipsch. Surprised me because I like my RP-600M in another room with a different setup. I think it's going to take something more than a "cheap" speaker to get me to upgrade from the Athena speakers that were purchased on a budget.

    • @daveycrockett5738
      @daveycrockett5738 Před 2 lety +2

      An rf7iii would be even better.

    • @BryanRuby
      @BryanRuby Před 2 lety

      @@mjskillz23 I think the Klipsch RP-6000F (and even more the RP-8000F) sound very good but to my ears they're not a $1000-$1800 improvement over my current Athena AS-F1 speakers. If you're looking for a different sound (which I am) I don't think it helps to replace an older tower speaker with a newer tower speaker that is close to the same design. Perhaps that's why I like the RP-600M for my other system (bookshelf is different than tower). I'm starting to consider the KLM Model 5 floor speakers for a new/different/better sound than my current setup with the Athena speakers. Until then, I found in the garage sale some Athena Technologies AS-F2 tower speakers for less than $150 and used those to replace my smaller AS-F1 tower speakers. At only $150...I can justify any change I make with my setup. Happy hunting for your setup!

  • @AntoineViau-00
    @AntoineViau-00 Před 2 lety +2

    I like how you refined the voice and tone of your review. Your humor got enlightened and it is much more engaging. Good work!

  • @PlaybackMansion
    @PlaybackMansion Před 2 lety +2

    Glad you're describing the room. I ran my RP260F's (previous gen) with a Marantz SR8400 in a similar sized room and one much bigger. These speakers are fun to listen to and can go loud

  • @1L3g3nd
    @1L3g3nd Před 2 lety +15

    Glad I found this. This model is overlooked. Most people jump straight up to the 8000 but the 6000 is very solid. I have this and the 600s too and I’m tempted to return the 600s and keep these even though I try to avoid towers haha

  • @ginom407
    @ginom407 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm not in the market for new speakers, but I would love to hear these! Thanks for your review. 👍

  • @dillonquackenbush3895
    @dillonquackenbush3895 Před 2 lety +4

    Super stoked for this review. Just finished my 5.1.2. I have the RP6000fs, 250c and based on your recommendation the 500ms for surrounds. My atmos is nothing to write home about, energy take classic haha.

  • @0SuperTacoMan0
    @0SuperTacoMan0 Před 2 lety +2

    I love that you remind me to grab a drink before the episode begins. I'm a sipper.

  • @jeffe.6445
    @jeffe.6445 Před 2 lety +3

    Randy, Thanks for all of your great work! Love the show and all of the good info. I don't know if it's possible but if it ever is I would be very interested in a head to head shoot out between the KEF Q950's and the Paradigm Monitor 8000f's, and also how you think they compare to their bookshelf counterparts. Keep up the good work. Hope you all had a great holiday and I look forward to your next video.

  • @mikejames-drummerreginacan1386

    I used the older RF-25 with updated K-138 tweeters......I LOVE THEM...great review Randy.

  • @crimsonghost6454
    @crimsonghost6454 Před 2 lety +4

    Great review as always. I am a Klipsch fan for almost thirty years now so maybe a little biased but I love horns and I love Klipsch. I'm glad to see you showing the brand some attention. On a side note I would love to see you review some Dayton audio gear starting with the APA150. Its a two channel amp that can also be bridged mono. I am really interested in it as well as others they offer too. They just don't get any attention but the specs look good and are affordable. I would trust your opinion.

  • @francescotenti193
    @francescotenti193 Před 2 lety +1

    Glad to see you finally addressed "room treatment", easy to do and at an affordable price!!

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 2 lety +2

      Triangle of happiness

    • @francescotenti193
      @francescotenti193 Před 2 lety

      @@cheapaudioman Of course, especially wives who are not so happy to see "stuff" around! Nice review.

    • @MrIagainsti120
      @MrIagainsti120 Před 2 lety +2

      @@cheapaudioman I only have the square of despair by sith audio was really disappointed.

  • @Casey.S.
    @Casey.S. Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the info and the laughs randy. 🤙

  • @Link-vv4sb
    @Link-vv4sb Před 2 lety +2

    I have the RP 8000f and RC64lll centre. I would base my decision on upgrading to the RF7III solely on your review. No pressure! Thanka again and keep up the great work.

  • @eddybabe7963
    @eddybabe7963 Před rokem

    Great review and interesting links. Looking forward to buying a pair. cheers

  • @zx7gp
    @zx7gp Před 2 lety +1

    Well I went and got these as unused demos and a very good price. First spin I gotta say....They sound GREAT. Even at low volumes I noticed how they keep detail. Thanks for a great review. I think I made a very solid choice.

  • @mikejames-drummerreginacan1386

    Klipsch are great for apartments. They sound GREAT at lower volumes, many "accurate" speakers need to be played louder to sound good.....efficiency = FUN

    • @myronhelton4441
      @myronhelton4441 Před 2 lety

      You want me to buy Klipschs. If a Klipsch can be played at lower volumes to sound great, then the lower volumes will make the Klipsch sound less harsh. Tube amp will make the Klipsch sound even less harsh. Tube amps & Klipsch both require little power. What he fails to mention an efficient speaker plays more clearly.. An efficient speaker plays louder. An inefficient speaker playing as loud as a Klipsch is in an unclear sounding congestive strain. A Klipsch has stronger bass, with no sub needed. Another advantage is the Klipsch's bass is loud like a subwoofer, but the Klipsch bass is more clear than a subwoofer. The Klipsch bass is better than other speakers. It is rare to get bass that is both clear, deep, & loud at the same time. If one has a brick or heavy interior stucco block wall as a diffusor, the Klipsch's can be placed 4 inches from the rear wall. Place a large flat piece of glass between the speakers against the wall for good imaging.

    • @MichaelHumbles
      @MichaelHumbles Před 2 lety +3

      Agreed. I've been using my Klipsch The Sixes as a 2.0 with my TV and late night when everyone is asleep I can still enjoy great clear sound at low volume. Honestly some serious ASMR with that horn

    • @stevenswall
      @stevenswall Před 2 lety

      Sonos and Devialet speakers sound great at low volumes, and it's because they follow equal loudness contours and boost bass more at lower volumes.
      Efficiency has nothing to do with it, though if these have brightness and peaks, I could see sounding clearer at very low volumes for high vocals.

    • @HomeTheatre101
      @HomeTheatre101 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree, when I don’t wanna wake the neighbors I keep my Klipsch RB-81ii turned low and still enjoy them! But during the daytime it’s game on lol.

    • @rotorfix
      @rotorfix Před 2 lety

      sensitivity does not equal efficiency.

  • @andrewforsythe7240
    @andrewforsythe7240 Před 2 lety

    Excellent review thank you.

  • @sayeduzzamanrayan9387
    @sayeduzzamanrayan9387 Před 2 lety +1

    FINALLY, a proper review on my speakers!

  • @VintageVic93
    @VintageVic93 Před 2 lety +2

    While I always watch every video, mentioning the Heresy got me to click super fast! Klipsch towers tempt me, but I know I’ll regret replacing my Heresy I’s. Great review!

  • @omahahaha
    @omahahaha Před 2 lety +4

    My idea of a triangle of happiness is a bit different but I do like that sith audio room treatment. Also, great review. I don't think I've ever listened to Klipsch speakers in the 40 years I've been into this hobby, but this review makes me want to hear these.

    • @scrout
      @scrout Před 2 lety +1

      Heh...

    • @funcionyforma
      @funcionyforma Před 8 měsíci

      Too focused on the triangle of happines to try for new things, I assume... Not that's anything wrong about it, though

  • @fooser77
    @fooser77 Před 2 lety +2

    I purchased some NS-1000s (Yamaha) in 1981 in Iwakuni, Japan (USMC PX) ..
    Beryllium dome drivers ..
    Added sub, center, and effect speakers in '96 ..
    Gone through 2 receivers .. (original Yamaha '81, upgraded to another Yamaha in '96)
    All worked through Jan 2020 until ALL lost via storage incident ..
    100% traveling since ..
    Have not replaced system to date ..
    That was 40 years of ownership ..
    Researching replacements ..
    Considering Klipsch ..

  • @kabrandt22
    @kabrandt22 Před 2 lety +1

    I found a pair of rp8000f's brand new for $700. Hooked up to my Yamaha Aventage they absolutely shine. For home theater they are also great but with music listening I am blown away every time I listen. I do have a dedicated room with treatments so that helps.

  • @Link-vv4sb
    @Link-vv4sb Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for another great review and as Bryan Ruby said, of a speaker that is difficult to find reviews on. If i may make a suggestion for a future review of another Klipsch product that is difficult to find reviews on.......RF7III please!

  • @breckisaac5378
    @breckisaac5378 Před 2 lety +7

    Tried the rp-5000 initially…thought they were adequate but wanted more muscle and went with the Rp-8000. No regrets.

    • @engelericj
      @engelericj Před 2 lety +2

      @Mark Sentowski RP 280f's can be had a good discount at crutchfield if you keep your eye out. 399 now each. Black friday probably a lil less. Previous version of the RP 8000

  • @bulldozer9600
    @bulldozer9600 Před 2 lety

    I was originally going to get those but opted for a mint pair of Klipsch Quartets. Setting those up with two Sw-110 and it’s absolutely killer sound.

  • @texasbuzzard4970
    @texasbuzzard4970 Před rokem

    great review!

  • @SAngel-dj1lv
    @SAngel-dj1lv Před 2 lety +1

    Great review! Don't know if I'm a horn guy but, I couldn't stop myself from looking at the copper ring of the traptrix as the cold shiver of acquiescence crept down my spine! I felt a deep empathy for your children. 🤣

    • @SAngel-dj1lv
      @SAngel-dj1lv Před 2 lety

      (Thanks for All your work, Randy! You're a big part of the fun.)

  • @careylymanjones
    @careylymanjones Před 2 lety +2

    Single Ended Triode (SET) tube amps tend to be rolled off in the bass and treble ranges. Efficient, V-shaped speakers such as Klipsch are often a spectacularly good match with them. The Reisong A10 rolls off starting at about 2,000 hz. This would be a serious problem with a "linear" speaker. But it's perfectly suited to most of Klipsch's line.

  • @patrickmcgee283
    @patrickmcgee283 Před 2 lety +29

    If you like those you will love the RP8000f definitely a different sound more bass and a smoother midrange IMO🔥 Thanks for the videos!

    • @jalsarrelevantchaos8817
      @jalsarrelevantchaos8817 Před 2 lety +10

      I have the RP-280F and love them.

    • @HansProbs
      @HansProbs Před 2 lety +3

      Heard many folks who prefer the 6000f over the 8000f. But also the opposite. Dont think you can lose with either pair! I have a klipsch rp-450c center and it is AWESOME

    • @yournightmare9999
      @yournightmare9999 Před 2 lety

      @@HansProbs i glad that you have Klipsch center channel only and enjoying it 😉👌

    • @myronhelton4441
      @myronhelton4441 Před 2 lety

      What he fails to mention an efficient speaker plays more clearly.. An efficient speaker plays louder. An inefficient speaker playing as loud as a Klipsch is in an unclear sounding congestive strain. A Klipsch has stronger bass, with no sub needed.

    • @myronhelton4441
      @myronhelton4441 Před 2 lety +1

      You want me to buy Klipschs. If a Klipsch can be played at lower volumes to sound great, then the lower volumes will make the Klipsch sound less harsh. Tube amp will make the Klipsch sound even less harsh. Tube amps & Klipsch both require little power. What he fails to mention an efficient speaker plays more clearly.. An efficient speaker plays louder. An inefficient speaker playing as loud as a Klipsch is in an unclear sounding congestive strain. A Klipsch has stronger bass, with no sub needed. Another advantage is the Klipsch's bass is loud like a subwoofer, but the Klipsch bass is more clear than a subwoofer. The Klipsch bass is better than other speakers. It is rare to get bass that is both clear, deep, & loud at the same time. If one has a brick or heavy interior stucco block wall as a diffusor, the Klipsch's can be placed 4 inches from the rear wall. Place a large flat piece of glass between the speakers against the wall for good imaging.

  • @frshtrds
    @frshtrds Před 2 lety +2

    Bought a pair of 8000 Fs on ebay for $900 for the pair new and smile every time they are used. Amazing for 2 channel tv watching!

  • @hastingsbnsfnscalemodeler8594

    I have the 8000F and love them.

  • @robertmarshall7712
    @robertmarshall7712 Před 2 lety

    Hi Cheap Audio Man from the UK. Really enjoy your reviews and your sense of humour! On a completely different topic to these floor standing speakers, please review the Triangle Titus EZ if you can get your hands on them. Wouldn't really describe them as cheap (but then you seem to be reviewing other speakers which aren't exactly cheap) but the extraordinary thing I've found about them is that they work really well with cheap gear (well in my case they do, Marantz m-cr603) and that they are so easy to drive.
    I'd really love to hear your take on these!

  • @kohnfutner9637
    @kohnfutner9637 Před 2 lety +6

    I do love my Klipsch 280f. Good stuff. I am dismayed to see all the hate they receive but when you're onto something good you're going to get a lot of haters, particularly in the "high end" world of audio.
    I recommend pairing Klipsch with Yamaha for it's laid back naturalistic sound signature. However, I found i had to use a Denon mic to get the room correction the way I liked it -the Yamaha mic didn't seem to work nearly as well as the Denon one.
    One last note: give speakers a year to really break in. Whether it's the speakers changing or your hearing, all the speakers I've ever used just seem to get softer sounding over time. Like the tweeters seem to mellow out and the bass gets stronger and less hummy. I think you should give your speakers a long while to come into their own. Also, I think run your room correction every time they start sounding different to your ears and try to find a sound that suits you better until you finally are happy for a long time and then don't move them. You can experiment with placement but that's usually just to tow in the soundstage and help with the bass response like getting out bass nodes/cancellations.

    • @musicman8270
      @musicman8270 Před 2 lety +1

      The Klipsch is more of a HT speaker, and nothing wrong with that, I just wanted a speaker more geared towards music is all,and I love "air" just as much as the next guy (or girl) but my Klipsch had air in eveything, a failing in horn speakers.

    • @kohnfutner9637
      @kohnfutner9637 Před 2 lety

      @@musicman8270 my guess is either you're higher fi than I care about being, the amplifier you used didn't pair well with Klipsch or you didn't get your room correction/placement set up well. Also, maybe you didn't give the speakers time to come into their element with time and play.
      When I connected my 280f to my Denon x3500h, they did not sound good at all. The Denon is a bright receiver and the Klipsch is a bright speakers. I recommend getting a Yamaha receiver and a Denon mic to set up your system.
      It's a very good music speakers and unbeatable home theater anywhere near the price IMO.
      I don't have the experience of reviewers and it seems many speakers brands are making knock out of the park speakers in the price range so it might not be better but I like them thoroughly.

    • @kingtrance6826
      @kingtrance6826 Před 2 lety

      @@kohnfutner9637 - Funny I don’t think that way of Denon at all. Denon uses Audyssey and Yamaha runs IPAO for room correction. I much prefer Audyssey and you can adjust any frequency necessary. Whatever color you like.

    • @madcrabber1113
      @madcrabber1113 Před 2 lety

      Love mine as well.

  • @ericharrelson2045
    @ericharrelson2045 Před 2 lety

    I'm waiting for the that line of Sith Audio speaker upgrade kits and cable signal accelerators. But, until then, it would be interesting to get your take on the performance effects in the RP-6000F with the GR Research upgrades.

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens Před 2 lety

      If you don't treat your room first, those upgrades are wasted.

  • @thomasgunn4146
    @thomasgunn4146 Před 2 lety

    Dude you’re cracking me up 😂
    Anyways, another entertaining and straightforward review as always.

  • @markd4292
    @markd4292 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks Randy for going over how far you had them from the front wall. I have been considering the RP 8000's or the 6000's but have limited space to pull them out. They are deep! It's good to know you didn't have any problems with several inches from the wall. My concern is my 82" ceiling. I would love the 8000's but that low ceiling, I don't know, perhaps the 6000's may be the better choice?

    • @unklecorky2181
      @unklecorky2181 Před rokem +1

      What did you get?

    • @markd4292
      @markd4292 Před rokem

      @@unklecorky2181 Oh Hey. I forgot about this.
      I went with Sonus Faber Lumina 5.

    • @unklecorky2181
      @unklecorky2181 Před rokem +1

      @@markd4292 Hey there. I am looking at the Lumina 5 as well! How are you liking it? Is the Bass pretty decent?

    • @markd4292
      @markd4292 Před rokem

      @@unklecorky2181 Hey. Let me put it this way:
      I went in to demo the Lumina 5 but the dealer only had the Lumina 3 on the floor. So I listened to it, and it was amazing. And then I realized it was only the 3 and not the 5! The 5's kick butt I hear, it has better technology inside.
      What my ears heard was this:
      First the midrange. OMG. Clear and full. Bass seemed to come out from nowhere, it was there in the room. The treble is a bit elevated but it's not harsh whatsoever! The speakers have an extremely low distortion rating, much much lower than Klipsch. You can crank these up, and they will run practically on any amp. I heard them on a 48 watt Prima Luna! Not much power needed to make them sing. They almost remind me of Klipsch Heritage in a way. It's not a horn sound, and it's not as efficient as Klipsch but it's got a nice forward presentation but without the artifacts that Klipsch has. Beautiful center image and depending on the song, nice depth behind the speakers. BEST Thing: It plays every music genre great (I played, classical, jazz, fusion, rock, hard rock and pop). AND it's forgiving to poor recorded music! Klipsch tends to be very unforgiving to poor recordings, that's the major flaw for me about Klipsch. You should check them out.
      Also the KLH Model 5 Kicks serious ass too: it's a warmish sounding speaker. In all actuality I don't have the Lumina's yet because I am still trying to decide between the KLH and Lumina. But I think I am going for the Lumina's. Why? They are made in Italy and not China, they look great, and sound better. Still the KLH is a sealed cabinet which makes them very easy to place in a room. The Lumina's are down firing ported but still are easy to place.
      It's been about 3 weeks since I heard the Lumina's and I STILL can not get them out of my head, they are THAT good!
      Hope that helps.
      Peace

  • @gtric1466
    @gtric1466 Před 2 lety

    Randy, you were spot on. I so wanted to like these auditioned the 600 and 800's. Yes what killed it for me was the mid-range felt it lacked warmth in the male vocal and was completely missing in most female vocals also lot of the drum hits sounded like the were hitting the edge instead of the skin, attack with no decay. Again imho. But for HT totally Rock..

  • @AttilaTime
    @AttilaTime Před 2 lety +1

    I was debating buying my own tower speakers today but I noticed you didn't have any tower speakers but now you do I also want some. Since you love the JBL a130 so much you should review the JBL a170.

  • @pavlobilous4030
    @pavlobilous4030 Před rokem

    Got myself RE-6000 ii for 800 a pair today. Can’t wait for them to arrive lol

  • @brianchristopher4666
    @brianchristopher4666 Před rokem

    I think these are likely very good choice behind acoustic projection screens for HT music duties, given the foreward bright nature, and leaving you dynamics, detail, dialog intelligibility, , focus, easy to drive with receiver, etc

  • @sjgerber
    @sjgerber Před 2 lety

    Love the dig a KEF regarding grilles

    • @sjgerber
      @sjgerber Před 2 lety

      ...aluminium driver dig... KEF again 🤣

  • @scottsabo706
    @scottsabo706 Před 2 lety +1

    The rp5000f are quite good as well. I have them in my office, 11x19. Looking to get a small tube integrated to use with them.

    • @HanifBarnwell
      @HanifBarnwell Před 2 lety +1

      Am an owner as well, small office they’ve performed well.

  • @ChrisGramer
    @ChrisGramer Před 2 lety +8

    KEF. You're talking about KEF, right? (Re: Grilles)

  • @Bob.martens
    @Bob.martens Před 2 lety

    I am addicted to sound, and the RP6000F is my delivery system of choice. Their sound is so thick you can chew it. A yamaha AS1100 helps to dig out every detail, bottom to top.

  • @tomeberhard74
    @tomeberhard74 Před 2 lety

    Bought my speakers a few months ago and had not been on the channel in a while. Came back to check on your sponsors, wasn't disappointed. Gonna buy me some Sith Audio Triangle of Happiness Perfection once the credit card fairy cooperates. Woo-hoo!!

  • @eeyorebill04
    @eeyorebill04 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice! I’ve been sort of considering the RP-5000F, as I can actually afford it if it’s on sale or Open Box. BUT my room is kinda small especially in the dimension that’d be parallel to the depth of the speaker.
    The 5000 is a little smaller than the 6000, but still super deep at over 14”D. I won’t be able to have the back of it more than like 6” from the wall, but maybe that’s ok from what you’re saying. Maybe I should give them a try 🤔

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens Před 2 lety

      If you have a 'padded' space, like thick carpets, heavy drapes, big sofa's that can abdorb sound instead of reflecting it, you can have bigger speakers without much issue. If not: Stick with bookshelf speakers. You will enjoy them more.

    • @HanifBarnwell
      @HanifBarnwell Před 2 lety

      Did you get em?

  • @marksilver8820
    @marksilver8820 Před 2 lety +4

    Can't wait for the Triangle of Happiness to show up at Dollar Tree. I'll stick one on each ear. That should make the old Sylvania come to life.

  • @canadianwildlifeservice8883

    I love the RP series (the RP-150M is amazing). Despite the stereotype of Klipsch being bright, the RP series is not. They are a little forward on things like cymbals, stringed instruments and brass instruments, yet neutral enough to not be fatiguing which gives the music a live presentation-like feel to it.

    • @Bob.martens
      @Bob.martens Před 2 lety +2

      I love my RP150M better than my RP6000f for daily use. So do my neighbours.

    • @robertanderson7049
      @robertanderson7049 Před 2 lety +1

      People often connect the Klipsch speakers to an amp and set the amp volume at about the level they usually set it at. So the Klipsch are much louder than they realize. Set the volume to zero, and slowly increase the volume. Get used to the Klipsch speakers.

    • @TheDoozie43
      @TheDoozie43 Před 2 lety +2

      I run my RP dual 8” towers, quad 5.25” center and rp500 side and rear surrounds on a Marantz receiver with an Emotiva XPA 3 on front stage and it’s marvelous! Matches up with the receiver very well. Dual svs pb3000s on base. Won’t be changing anything for a long while. Very happy.

    • @bonglord430
      @bonglord430 Před 6 měsíci

      @@TheDoozie43 you don’t want more than two mid ranges on a center

  • @jackstraw1756
    @jackstraw1756 Před rokem

    With the new release of the two small Schiit low power amps, would love to see a review of these speakers w two of the Gjallahorn amps as mono blocks preferably w a Freya preamp.

  • @MiemoPenttinen
    @MiemoPenttinen Před 2 lety +9

    I much prefer the sponsors on this channel than on any other one here on CZcams! 😂

  • @ramonbannister9498
    @ramonbannister9498 Před 2 lety +8

    Thx. I love your style. I miss the old amps and old-school speakers of the 80s and 90s. I had a Technics amp w/ a 7-band EQ and 3-way speakers w/ 10" woofers. The quality I got out of that was better than what I've ever heard since. And it had punch, even in a large room.
    In any case, I need to live in the now instead of the then. With that said, I'm confused about Klipsch's product lineup and the difference between them. Can you do a video that explains the difference between the floorstanding speakers? There's the Synergy, the Reference, Reference Premiere, etc. It seems to me the company is making the same speakers over and over again but repackaging them to make them look different so they can charge more for certain lines over others. Even though they're essentially the same exact speaker.
    So, if you did a video that explained the Klipsch lines, you'll be probably the only person on CZcams who did it.

    • @paulellsworth4007
      @paulellsworth4007 Před 2 lety +2

      I would also like this

    • @Gary_M
      @Gary_M Před 2 lety +3

      Synergy are basically the home theater line, Reference have cheaper cabinets and drivers than the Reference Premier line, it's not just cosmetics.

    • @Dark-Star
      @Dark-Star Před 2 lety

      @@Gary_M Nope. The Reference and Reference Premiere are exactly the same. I’m only talking about the towers. The RP bookshelf speakers are quite a bit better than the Reference bookshelf speakers. But the Reference towers are identical to the RP towers. Same everything. Except the tweeters. The RP tweeters are different. But, and it’s a big but, they don’t sound different. If you A-B the, say for instance, the R-820s with the RP-8000s, with both behind a curtain so you can’t see them, you won’t know which are which. I did this, and I was shocked. And I do have golden ears! Having so called golden ears is a curse. It’s impossible to just enjoy music! But, when I took them both apart, they where identical, even the crossovers. When they where behind curtains, I often preferred the imaging of the R-820s. They have truly cavernous horns. I really like the Klipsch sound, and usually prefer them, but I wish they’d do a better job with their crossovers. There’s no excuse for that midrange drop out. Not a deal breaker though.

  • @damircid6666
    @damircid6666 Před 11 měsíci

    Good video. I cleared up a lot of things. In other words, I can use those speakers with my Onkyo A -9010 of 44 watts per channel. Greetings.

  • @AmazonasBiotop
    @AmazonasBiotop Před 2 lety +1

    Thank goodness that they are deep!
    That forces the owner to put the drivers a distance from the wall. 🤣

  • @matejpodlesnik6538
    @matejpodlesnik6538 Před rokem

    Ok. Respect... I just had klipsch rp8000f in my living room and compare them to my diy speakers with almoust ruler flat frequency responce. And you just nailed your review. There is a dip from around 1000 to 2000hz, and it does effect mid range and after that a steep climb to 3000 ish hz. I confirmed it with messurement.
    But like you said they have that klipsch magic. You like it or you don't.
    But some voices did lack that bit of spectrum.
    For an instance I like roxettes Marie Fredrinkssons voice and klipsch just can't deliver. Like it's missing a bit. It also effects electric quitars.
    I already liked your reviews but now i have even greater respect for your opinion.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @stevezeidman7224
    @stevezeidman7224 Před 2 lety +1

    Ah, the triangle of happiness. I need to get one of those so I can add to filling my soul with happiness.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 Před 2 lety

    Lucky kids, cool dad with awesome jams:)

  • @dicmccoy
    @dicmccoy Před 2 lety +5

    I agree 1000% companies should include grilles....cough....cough....KEF.

  • @breitemasse
    @breitemasse Před 8 měsíci

    my fav speakers!

  • @isaacmack1316
    @isaacmack1316 Před 2 lety +2

    How would you compare this to the 600m in terms of sound

  • @AexoeroV
    @AexoeroV Před 2 lety +1

    Are the 6000F much better than the RP600M for a home theater that will have a subwoofer too?

  • @charlestwoo
    @charlestwoo Před 2 lety +1

    These intro ads get my every time, I'm still haunted by buffalo bill's bed and breakfast.

  • @WisGuy4
    @WisGuy4 Před 2 lety

    Randy, as I was watching your video, an ad came up for a stereo store in California that was clearing some things out in a moving sale. One of those items was a Grand Prix Audio Monaco 4-shelf audio rack on clearance for ONLY $5,000.00, with an MSRP of $10,250.00!!
    I currently have my office audio system sitting on a plastic storage rack I bought at Home Depot for 40 bucks. What would the Cheap AudioMan say about this potential upgrade? Is a $5000 discount, more than 50% off, too good of a deal to pass up? How would this compare to a similar shelf system by Sith Audio?
    What should I do???

  • @robertanderson7049
    @robertanderson7049 Před 2 lety

    Trying to decide between the Heresy and the RP-6000F speakers for music listening. Is the price difference really worth it ? I have been using the RP-250F speakers and have been happy. Input?

  • @danielwoodard680
    @danielwoodard680 Před 2 lety +1

    A four year old with a sword! The algorithm will love that! BTW, is it audiophile grade? Is it manufactured from our favorite sponsor? Is it re-charged with thick audiophile cables?

  • @chrish.4067
    @chrish.4067 Před 2 lety +1

    I LOVE my Heresy IV. Have not heard the model you discuss here. I have also owned Klipsch Belles, RF3s, and RP600M. Good amplification is the key to good sound with Klipsch. Tubes and Class A solid state amps come to mind. Class D I have little experience with except for that little Tripath? amp from way back when. YMMV.

  • @erics.4113
    @erics.4113 Před 2 lety

    Klipsch was smart sending you these. I have the rp600m and want to look at levelling up and was scratching my head a bit. I think the other pair in this line, the 8000f would be a candidate. More of that sound I love with the 600m but fuller range, even more presence and I'm guessing soundstage as a result. I need to give these a serious look. Good news is my local shop just became a klipsch dealer yay

    • @TheDoozie43
      @TheDoozie43 Před 2 lety

      Not long ago I found my rp280fs for $400 each. Love them! That’s the version before these without the copper trim ring around each speaker. Otherwise the same besides minimal tweeter venting added to this version in the video.

    • @erics.4113
      @erics.4113 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheDoozie43 it's funny reading my older post because that "thought" I was having came to reality a short time after, and I too found the 280f for $800 shipped to my door. Unreal. 140lb in two boxes, Vegas to Philly and they threw in a pair of speakers for a little more than the shipping costs it seems!
      They look amazing. They kick like mule!
      I've heard they use same woofers and crossover as the newer model. But I think the newer has a different tweeter, not just the venting. But I could be wrong. If I find the part I may later try to upgrade them.
      What amp or amps have you tried with them? I may get a Denon pma specifically for these speakers. The two amps I have in house are a little bright and forward for the top end on these and at more moderate listening levels I feel they could sound much more balanced.

    • @TheDoozie43
      @TheDoozie43 Před 2 lety

      @@erics.4113 a Marantz 6013 on rp500 side and rear surrounds and four rp140sa atmos wedges up high. Added an Emotiva xpa3 on the front stage now with an rp450 center. The receiver did great though when I was running everything off of it though. Very nice combo. Dual svs pb3000 subs also. I’m sure the Denon you’re considering would sound very similar since they’re made by the same company. I would suggest amps and processor separate with XLR capability though. If I ever upgrade that’s what I’ll be doing with another xlr amp and Denon processor.

    • @erics.4113
      @erics.4113 Před 2 lety

      @@TheDoozie43 I should have said I'm doing music only with mine. For HT I would absolutely go with these Klipsch. I also have rp600m and was thinking the other day if I got their center channel I'd have a pretty killer HT setup.
      In the meantime, I'm trying to find an amp to tame the Klipsch for music only. It's funny I'm not a huge fan of the Denon sound but I have a feeling with the klipsch it would actually be a great pairing. More to experiment with. I'm not ready to sell any of my gear yet until I run through more combinations. You just reminded me of marantz as well. In the same family as you mentioned and might be worthy consideration for Klipsch

    • @TheDoozie43
      @TheDoozie43 Před 2 lety

      @@erics.4113 well, if you have the preouts available on the Denon, I’d still say Emotiva XPA 3 for music. It’s really a wonderful amp. I guess that’s not really helpful though lol. Good luck!

  • @302chrisroy
    @302chrisroy Před 2 lety

    Do you think they will pair nicely with my Yamaha RXV6A amplifier or should I go with the RP 8000F....?

  • @johnricci3428
    @johnricci3428 Před 2 lety

    Likely a very nice speaker but I'm happy with my 1st gen RF-7 setup.

  • @oldestpunkinargentina7766

    I've had the grannies of these (F2s) for 14 years now and would not upgrade for any others. Paid 750 bucks for the pair, from Klipsch, in 2007, and paired it with a JBL sub, which is only necessary with anemic recordings in my 12X13 living room.

  • @shitsandwich1983
    @shitsandwich1983 Před 2 lety +1

    would you prefer these to the Heresy iv paired with a sub?

  • @amazingmonkey886
    @amazingmonkey886 Před rokem

    Movie watching is what I use these for, Cheapaudioman. What center would you pair these with? I'm using the Onkyo TR-NR6100. Are you of the opinion to not use a center since they are full range? Right now I have the Klipsch R25 which is adequate but the dialogue could still be clearer.

  • @todeswalzer6760
    @todeswalzer6760 Před 2 lety

    for a few seconds i thought you finally had a real sponsor, until i heard the name.

  • @LaciKEchannel
    @LaciKEchannel Před rokem +1

    Nice review. Did you have a chance to compare them with the new generation RP 6000f ii? If yes is it possible to provide your impressions, remarks, and opinion...? Or create a new video ;)? Just asking because now I have an opportunity to buy a new generation for a very good price.

  • @akeeperofoddknowledge4956

    Finally...an audio reviewer that listens to the same kind of music I listen to!

  • @andreasmoller9798
    @andreasmoller9798 Před 2 lety

    Never been a fan of klipsch, but a good review

  • @ragnarpadar3647
    @ragnarpadar3647 Před 2 lety

    Can you use two or more of those triangles of happiness for a larger High End listening room?

  • @richieb74
    @richieb74 Před rokem

    I would love to send you my older rf-52ii towers and you can do an old school review. And where it stacks up today lol

  • @eruilluvitar
    @eruilluvitar Před 2 lety +13

    Wow, I really expected the Sith Audio Triangle of Happiness to be a Holocron.

    • @bigmike5785
      @bigmike5785 Před 2 lety

      I thought it was going to be empty egg cartons

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner Před 2 lety

      nerd.

    • @epicenter103
      @epicenter103 Před 2 lety

      Can you give me the link to the Triangle of Happiness? I can’t find it anywhere online. Thanks!

  • @johnstump2433
    @johnstump2433 Před 2 lety

    Did you try these with your Emotiva, Andrew Robinson said they didn’t pair well with Klipsch ?

  • @HanifBarnwell
    @HanifBarnwell Před 2 lety

    Good review, yes not gaga about the midrange. Get yourself these and the Wharfedale Linton Heritage speakers.

  • @randalllawkin
    @randalllawkin Před 2 lety +3

    Will you get you hands on some HECO Aurora 1000 speakers....new best bang for buck speaker?

  • @arndtbc
    @arndtbc Před 2 lety

    Does the Marantz NR1711 chill the treble out a bit?

  • @lanemiddleton9
    @lanemiddleton9 Před 2 lety

    Randy, what’s your favorite Rootbeer❓

  • @michaeltoste8871
    @michaeltoste8871 Před 10 měsíci

    I have a marantz 2218 and love it. Currently using some old fisher Ds-810s that have seen better days. Would you recommend some speakers like this or anything else specifically?

  • @dilbyjones
    @dilbyjones Před 2 lety

    Woot, want to hear these on some toobs

  • @knobbshots
    @knobbshots Před 2 lety

    Thanks Randy, good as (almost) always, lol. Love Foundation, kinda like a new Star Trek…ish

  • @bencarignan2711
    @bencarignan2711 Před 2 lety

    Great review amigo! Please check out the Magnat Transpuls 1500. Big old school 3 way with a 15" woofer for only $1,000/pair. Supposed to be an amazing value and fun to listen to. I feel like there's room in the market for a bit of a big speaker renaissance. For those that have the space anyway. lol

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 2 lety +1

      I’m trying to get a pair of those in. They look awesome

  • @OldDolio312
    @OldDolio312 Před 2 lety

    Will an 80w per channel amp be enough? I currently have rp-500ms hooked up to it

  • @michaelellison7633
    @michaelellison7633 Před rokem +1

    Hey Randy I currently have the Rp-600m ii. Medium sized room. I feel like they are missing something and just sound like small speakers. I’m thinking about upgrading to the 6000 or 8000. I’m using a Denon avr(3500) with Emotiva amps(basx 1A mono blocks). I’m also running dual svs sb-2000s. Do you think the 6000 would fill in the mid bass with the extra 6.5 or would you go with 8000s. I’m a little concerned with the size of the 8000 in my space. Thanks

    • @BoRerunn
      @BoRerunn Před 9 měsíci

      I have the 800 and they need at least 100watts and a serious reciever that switches bass to a dedicated sub. They will turn into a serious imaging speaker like a $1000 Kef

  • @RedSinter
    @RedSinter Před 2 lety

    If l had the plans, can't find them, just for the doing them as my room wouldn't allow, but the living room would. I'd build the Kef lol there very old Folded Horn with the oval mid/ woofer. Its basically the same size as these. Also according to the guy who does the acoustic analysis they have issues with TOF (Time or Flight) issues between the tweeters and the bass speakers. He for around $400 separated the lower woofer in the crossover, removed the steel screws, and removed and added higher grade air cores in the crossovers added acoustic dampening for cabinets resonance and better speaker wiring cables. The end result was correct TOF between all the speakers and a virtually fiat response curve even at 8 inches off axis vertically. You can catch his analysis at GR-Research. And if course Sith Audio is Supreme.

  • @StevenLynn
    @StevenLynn Před 2 lety +10

    I am still amazed he can get through the "sponsor" as far as he does without busting out laughing.

    • @TheMack
      @TheMack Před 2 lety

      Agreed! Love those sponsors! =)

    • @darrenrock2132
      @darrenrock2132 Před 2 lety +2

      @@johnm3544 my favourite was the audiophile insulating tape. My wife thought he was serious, I let her think he was for a while.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 2 lety +2

      They can be difficult. The worst one to get through was the Sith Audio Plastic Japanese Fighting Seprd Replicas for Children on the DAC tier vid. That took a bit

  • @gnawty4662
    @gnawty4662 Před rokem

    Would you recommend a Center Channel with these towers?

  • @robertl8069
    @robertl8069 Před 2 lety

    Klipsch RP 6000F or HECO Aurora 700 or SVS Prime towers for movies and gaming ? I don't have a problem with bright speakers and already have a Subwoofer (SVS PB-2000 Pro)

  • @psales65
    @psales65 Před 2 lety

    Hi Randy a seller is trying to convince me that B&W 606 S2 is better than RP 6000F. What are you thoughts about it?

  • @terdferguson2653
    @terdferguson2653 Před 2 lety

    I need help! I've been wanting to get the klipsch 8000 and want at least a 5.2 receiver to pair with them. I don't know what reciever to go with! Any suggestions?

  • @Exteeeze
    @Exteeeze Před měsícem

    What do you think about 4 6000fs for home theater? Plus sides and rear.

  • @thefixxer72
    @thefixxer72 Před 2 lety

    The rp8000's sound amazing paired with Yamaha Amp.