You Should Not Stop Buying P3D/X-Plane Addons - Putting MFS 2020 Into Perspective
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2020
- I've been thinking about making this video for a while now. I hope you will listen with an open-mind before agreeing/disagreeing with what I'm submitting. I'm eager to read your comments, as long as they are constructive!
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We should save up for an RTX 2080ti instead of buying more addons for P3d lol
The RTX 2080ti is old and just a prototype, wait for something better and not gouging.
@@davewills6121 WDYM OLD AND PROTOTYPE it can run any game on max settings easily.
At £1000+ i would think it could rum (most) games on the highest settings. But it does poorly what it was intended for, and devs are just passing on RTX/DLSS, much like they do with DX12.
@@davewills6121 exactly it's an early bird graphics card better wait for the second gen
JpHDev an 2080 ti is very strong
Lost all interest in X-Plane after seeing the MFS 2020 demo. I don't see why i should plough more money into XP just to improve their abysmal graphics and models.
So it might be the right time to study intensively an aircraft in particular? But it’s sad to lose interest in something you must love doing just because you will be able to do it better in one year or more! Keep on taking full advantage of what you have now is what I’d say! Cheers !
I understand that point of view, but i woke up the next day AFTER THE MFS 2020 DEMO and deleted everything. For me to gain further interest in XP, Laminar Research need to pull their finger out, if mfs 2020 lives up to the hype, Laminar Research will be dropped unceremoniously by many. I gave up on brand loyalty years ago, i just want the best, and i'm not putting up with supporting the Ugly Betty that is XP'.
Dave Wills ok I see your point but why delete?
You paid for xplane already so what’s the difference.
You do realize mfs2020 is not available probably for another 6-10 months right?
I’m excited to for MFS2020 but for now I’ll use what I have.
I am actually spending needed time on DCS, and the many games i have yet to Start/Finish. If Vulkan/XP works out favorably, then i might venture back in later. I, like many have made a sizable investment in XP, so there is that,
I was in the same mood, but after using a YT video showing how to change XP11 in a great sim usiing only free addons, I changed my mind for two reasons: 1 MSFS 2020 is not there yet and 2nd: I'm cautious about games or sims when the bride looks too beautiful.
Every sim is worth the money. Yesterday i hold the box from FS2004, my first sim, and thouth, man wath a great sim was this and hoped in the future to have an old PC where i can install and thry it back on a nosthalgic way.
No, simming is a great hobby and i wil continue to ENJOY it...... the new ones and the old ones.
Happy new year for all ...
You’re totally right Erik! Any sim seems to bring about the joy of simming in its own way. Happy new year!
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Good morning CaptVince, today was my second time viewing this since you posted it. First of all thank you for taking the time to produce this vid. Now having said that what's your thoughts now that P3D has announced that they will release PD3 V 5 on the 14 April as well as the release of X-Plane vulkan. Has your opinion change and will be purchasing version 5.
Great video, have a good new year Vince!
Thanks! You as well!
Great video. I'm still unsure about moving on from P3DV4. I spent a ton on it lol.
Thanks Les! Yes, that’s really the issue here. Although I’m sure that eventually, as mentioned in my presumptions, we would inevitably be switching to the vastly more modern and optimized MFS 2020. Just, let’s not behave as if it was already out and let’s keep enjoying what we have now!
And I am sure that p3d will upgrade many parts of the sim to keep improving it. XP, p3d, dcs etc.... some people are producing a lot of hate over flight simulators. Keep your sim! I am sure it looks as good as the rest of ours.
that's a sunk cost fallacy - just because you already spent money on it doesn't mean you should spend more. Just one or two more addons to it and you probably already spent more than FS 2020.
Excuse me, I have a 144hz display. Do I need to turn on vertical sync and triple buffering? How to set it better? Is frame limit plus vertical synchronization okay?
Do you think scenery publishers like aerosoft give discounts for FS2020 sceneries if I bought them previously?
What a great well thought out video! Bravo!
Thank you very much!
What do you think about the new fsx 2020? You prefer fsx/prepar3d or the new fsx 2020?
& can we get all the addons free?
Im not like xplane is so bad.
What are your thoughts of MSFS and flight simulators now that MSFS released?
I’m debating on updating to P3Dv5 but I don’t want to spend another dime on updating and buying addons. MSFS base game seems bare bones and, sure, it looks pretty but a bit unrealistic for me :/
Great video, very informative, i am in the second group and i´ve spent a lot of money into P3d but if another simulator will be released or updated that will be better i will change when the time feels right, What do you feel is the most important addons to make the simulator satisfy your expectations? Have a good year!
Thanks Sebastian! I would answer to that question core world addons like Orbx Global, Vector, Envtex/REX, Tomatoshade/Envshade, NGXu, FSlabs, a few of your favourite airports, Active Sky and an A2A GA aircraft. That should give you a good place to start haha!
It would be bittersweet to say goodbye to FSX/P3D/XP. I've invested at least a couple grand from just the software side over 10+ years and I'm not mad at that fact. I've had a lot of fun and helped pay for developers to do what they love to do. In my personal opinion people who are on the fence because they spent a lot of money on the past flight sims, are not taking into consideration that this isn't just a prettier version of what we have now. So much of this new sim, from a technology standpoint, is a leap ahead from what we have now. Take for instance the atmospheric simulation, the wind actually collides with clouds because clouds are fully volumetric 3d particles. What this means is that you'll see that disruption as you fly in and out of clouds just like you feel it in real life. In P3D/XP, air goes right through clouds because out of the box, clouds are not volumetric. Yes, you can get programs that give you volumetric clouds but again, the base sim does not program the air to interact with 2d textured clouds. It's these little details I don't think people are taking into account, but it's the reason I'll be switching as soon as it comes out.
Great video Vince. One thing interesting about MSFS 2020 is that it looks to also be included in the Xbox Game Pass for PC, so the cost of acquiring the simulator is not as much as a factor as the decision to pay for add-ons. I've also been starting to be more interested in any add-ons that are offering free MSFS 2020 install if you buy the P3D version now. I purchased the new 737 for P3Dv4 for this reason.
A good choice. I hope the PMDG or Captain Sim 737, these are the best.
That’s a very good point! We could also infer that there would be à base price + requirement of game pass to enjoy the full extent of the simulator. And yes, I think devs who can should definitely be business savvy in proposing some sort of discount for the same product releasing eventually on MFS. Have a great day!
When I first saw the MSFS 2020 release videos I thought that's the death nail for sims like X Plane etc, however I've changed my mind from what I've heard and seen and trying to second guess MS, but the way I see it is:
1, Your system will have to be a beast to get the full experience.
2, You will have to have a fast/stable broadband connection to get the full experience, so you will be at the mercy of your ISP if your not on a cable connection. I know the developers have stated you can play off-line but then you won't get the full experience.
3, It sounds like it's going to be a subscription service, so for casual simmers it won't be worth it, but I can the see the business community and hard core simmers buying into it for flight simulation.
4, I hope I'm wrong on all of the above, but lets wait and see.
So think of it this way:
1. Right now you may have spent thousands on the best hardware available and you still don't get silk smooth framerate you should be getting because X-Plane can't utilize multi-core/thread CPUs and runs on ancient OpenGL.
2. They've said it will be possible to pre-cache the area you're interested in if you connection sucks.
3. Considering how much people have spent on better clouds, better weather engine, better water, shadows, textures, buildings, this and that, it might not be that bad of a deal even if it is a subscription model. But we'll have to wait and see how much they ask for. Either way, the sim is going to be next gen for sure so we might have to pay more for it. Sounds fair to me.
I see it this way:
Get 2080ti or have 2 fps on lowest settings
I had the exact same thoughts.
1. it will most likely run better than Xplane or P3D, if you can run either, chances are MSFS will run smoothly.
2. the game supports caching of scenery and people who've tried it confirm it works on regular DSL connections.
3. that's true, sub service most likely, the single scary thing. But considering on other sims you pay $100 for unfinished buggy airliners, and MSFS comes already with a 747 and an A320 among a lot of other stuff, how many years of subscriptions will it take to make it not worth it? 10? 12? :) Let's not even mention the $30-$60 for passenger sounds, weather... a lot of hoops to jump through.
@@Galf506 they have said multiple times they don't like subscriptions...
Hi, which add-ons were you using for these clouds in this video?
Just my opinion, but I am reserving judgement for FS2020 until I see the product and what the pricing structure will look like. No question in my mind that the out of the box look of the new sim will not be as it is depicted in the videos Microsoft has released. I believe that in order to get to that level, some type of subscription based fees will be imposed and will have to be held in the cloud due to the huge file sizes. For me, I will see what the product looks like before reaching any conclusions.
@@MevRB19 $2,000 machine running at 4k high settings runs perfectly fine lol. It seems that Asobo has made the sim more efficient than xp or p3d.
Thanks for a very thoughtful video!
And thank you for watching !
The only addon I bought for P3D was LOWI from Orbx because it was cheap over the Christmas period. That will be my last until FS 2020 drops. The current flight-sims annoy me because it takes so much money to make it look decent, MS FS will look decent out of the box. I am definitely dropping P3D.
i was using fsx steam since a month ago, i just moved to p3d v4, totally worth it !
Same here!
Wayyyyy better fps
Great choice! P3D is a great platform.
Hi @CptVince am new to flight simming and I am totally aware that i am secluded (Xbox user) from the hardcore simmers, i want my flight sim experience to be epic and so realistic, i can't afford a PC but am looking into investing into the new Xbox series x, and essential flight sim peripherals like yoke,rudder pedals wouldn't that be good to go for realistic flight sim experience?
The Xbox would be okay if you cannot get a PC, along with the usual equipment (yoke, rudder, etc.) you would want a keyboard and mouse to click on things, (ie switches and buttons).
I gave up all of my add-ons when I moved from P3D to X-Plane. (I had a lot!) Since then, I've only bought one relatively cheap add-on that I'd had in P3D. I think that some devs are thinking to use the opportunity to get people to repurchas (looking at you PMDG). While I'd be okay with paying for some conversion costs, I wouldn't rebuy them all over again.
I made the switch from P3D to X-Plane. I don't regret it at all. X-Plane 11 is just the all around better flight sim. (:
I agree completely. Starting about 1.5 years ago with XP (after not using any FS for almost 20 years), I moved over to P3D in August because I found XP's lack of good aircraft (commercial), to be annoying. Out of the box XP was much better than P3D. I actually only bought a couple of 3rd party airports because I was satisfied with the default airports so much. But P3D has turned out to not only work better with my computer, but also has a lot more options. I spent a small fortune this past Christmas buying stuff that was on sale. Well worth it for me and I don't plan on getting rid of P3D any time soon. It will be interesting to see how the new FS does....but I still think these other sims will still be around. Hopefully they will step up and be more competitive. Lockheed should follow's XP's lead and let people update their airports for submittal. I mean it's free...and some people do a great job!
They said they expect the V1 release to be in March 2020, as you said, there might be a delay in the release, but it's a flight simulator we are talking about, so I'm pretty sure that if there's a delay in the release, it won't be a year or more like you said, leave that to the 737 MAX.
Gavin Botwinick I see, I didn’t get it the first time, I thought the SDK was gonna be available mid-January and the V1 release would be in March, but I just realized they were saying that the SDK preview version would be in mid-January and SDK V1 in March. I thought they were talking about the official MFS 2020 V1 release.
My bad
I am a real pilot, flight sims really do help my real world flying. I just built a new computer based on FS2020 requirements & bought X-Plane while waiting. There is plenty of freeware for both X-Plane & P3D. While we wait. I figure get one or the other put a bare minimum on it of payware and as much freeware as you like. Then enjoy and learn as much as you can.
Happy new year?
You had no idea of what was to come
Who did :)?
Nice informative video. Couple of points could be debated but overall nice video.
Thought provoking video. X-Plane 11 with Orbx UK & Zibo 737 gives a fantastic simulator. Vulkan is on the way to X-Plane 11.5 which should make it even better. X-Plane will take the challenge from MS2020 & I will continue to support it along with MS2020. I’ve always had more than one sim on my pc & I don’t see that changing for some time.
Thank you Michael! Yes, the current (legacy) sims will continue evolving and proving to be more an more apt at quenching our thirst for realism!
X-Plane will loose a lot of customers I am excited for the MSFS 2020 and hope it’s as good because a video like this guy made just says he’s skeptical about how good the new flight sim will be If MSFS 2020 is as promising as it looks especially with seasons witch x-plane doesn’t have then I will switch.
As for me, a causal simmer, I’m fine with settling in what the default game contains and not spending extra money even on MFS2020. For flight sim, I just like griping and raping. I’ve been having fun testing the limit of Cessna by editing them into 8 props spanning like 40ft each and take it straight to space😜. When MFS2020 come out I will be so excited to apply those to it too!
Smart is buy from developers something that you can be able to use or a low fee upgrad from p3d to fs2020..coming to my head the business model on the sale of PMDG737ugx
P3d will not die its still very active for serious simmers and cockpit builders MFS has still to many bugs and performance problems and is more scenery simulator then a real Sim platforme up to now at least . Dont get me wrong MFS2020 looks great but still has a long way to go .
XP and P3D both look like crap out of the box, why in the hell should we continue to support companies that sell you a bill for other things to buy in the hopes it would be the experience we wanted in the first place?? Private developers will find a new, and a better, home in MFS 2020.
XP doesn't look that bad out of the box. However P3D looks like complete shit.
@@submo8902 I think since trueSKY was introduced I can say P3D looks better out of the box. I was using X-Plane for 2 years but switched to P3D, and I really don't regret it at all.
I think that in the life of companies, there comes a time when you have to admit that something better is happening outside of them. FS2020 has enormous potential and P3D and X-PLANE are fantastic but perhaps they must be renewed in order to compete. The rest of the arguments are justifications for not losing customers and money.
When a restaurant wants to convince me that its menu is the best, I doubt very much and I don't eat their menú. Something sounds bad. :) if someone need to convince me that i should not stop buying addons, Sounds like when advertising tries to convince you that you are not healthy, to sell you medicine later. Thanks captain vince for your video.
Abraham, the title is quite strong and not really what I am saying in the video. What I’m saying is if you’re used to buying add-ons and you’re at a state where your sim is extremely complete, then the MFS 2020 announcement should not, in my opinion and for the arguments proposed, make you stop completely acquiring new add-ons. Thanks for watching!
@@CptVinceCaptain Vince, thanks for your reply. I agree: nothing you like should keep you from taking care of it. And also nothing that comes new to your life and that you like should be denied. :) Hopefully we have three good simulators!
I will keep buying addons for P3D because I'm not migrating to MSFS anytime soon.
Agree, from what I’ve seen it will be a while before hardware and MS2020 addons will catch up after the release.
@@srbs73 iagree too. People are hyped too much about the new sim and too gaga about it. Not thinking straight!
@@chrisadish People are hyped too much? lol. Are you serious? Have you even watched any videos? It makes every other sim look like a joke! I understand you are salty about all the money and time you spent on P3D but man... at least be honest enough to admit that FS2020 puts every other sim to shame. It's like saying that the new generation smartphones are hyped up compared to your 90's Nokia. You are delusional.
@@PaulReinhard , I hear u and I'm not bashing fs2020. I'm saying that I'm enjoying what I have for now the best I could until it releases. Of course it's going to blow the other sims out the water ,surely.
@@chrisadish That's cool man. Nothing wrong with enjoying your sim while recognizing that simulation is moving into the future. It will take a while for addons to come to FS2020 anyway. Personally, I stuck with FSX and didn't want to go to P3D or Xplane because I didn't really see a point apart from some minor improvements. The 64 bit didn't really do anything for me because I fly PMDG from FlyTampa EHAM to CYYZ, ORBX, ASN, etc. without an OOM. But now... I am going to FS2020 if I have to fly a Cessna VFR, I don't care. I love heavies but this sim makes me want to do VFR like never before.
X-plane is very good, but it will lose the fight for dominance in the Flightsim area. So why should I still invest my money here? The time therefore does not matter when the MFS 2020 appears.
Sorry not understain....what sim ís in the video?
This video is showing P3D
Did I you say “pta Rocco“ for free training please? Can’t hear it clearly and can’t find it.....
Hey Andrew. No, I said BVARTCC. Google it and check out their website. They have a wide range of training material!
I played fs2004 and my current flight sim is fsx steam edition lol
Hi. If we simmers all met in an English pub, we would chat about this for hours for sure. We have a saying, “You don’t know, what you don’t know.” I moved to P3D from FSX in October 2018. With a new PC and the add ons, I reckon it cost in excess of €3000. My PC will last for at least another 2years with the spec. I am in no hurry to move sim. I have P3D set up just as I want. Lastly, I cannot believe Lockheed Martin are doing nothing. Whilst flight sim will not be a great financial earner for them, they nevertheless are in the game. Will they allow MS to take over the business? Let’s see!!!
Let’s see indeed! Can’t wait to see Lockheed’s answer to all this! I’m sure they won’t stand still. Thanks for your comment!
Thanks. My opinion on the subject is that Microsoft 2020 will come in Cheap and once they have killed off the competition will raise "Their Price" and do what they have done in the past "Pull the plug on 2020". Then everyone is the loser.
no competition will be "killed off." What are you referring to when they "pulled the plug."?
Meh. Flight sim is only one of my several hobbies I won't leave Xplane11 because of several fancy video clips and some people having an all expenses paid vacation to microsoft to fly in their demo sim. Besides spending several hundred hours flying various freeware and payware planes, I enjoy making good ortho. I have several addons for weather, textures and a lot of freeware airports. I do download ortho but I am not going to bother with a subscription with MS. Many parts of the US have data caps each month and in our household, we'd go over if I fly the same amount in MS I fly in xplane. Of course, I heard this varies. I am not worried about XP or laminar. The actual simulation is amazing especially considering its a very small team developing the sim and several hundreds of people developing third-party addons or the community that makes a lot of freeware. MSFS will have freeware but they won't merely survive without payware addons. In XP there are a few addons that will have 3d clouds, even Ultra Weather XP is working on 3d volumetric clouds and light illumination. I could have gone without a few payware addons but oh well. I am very happy with how it looks and performs overall. I even got an addon that replaces most of the autogen and default textures and it really improved the visuals. If it turns out that I am completely wrong (who is to say?) then oh well. I have a huge simulator I'll keep flying and maybe I'd try out the new MS. Then again, I will absolutely buy X-Plane 12 when its release, beta test before that, and keep on beta testing for other developers. And Dave is right....there might be quite a few that leave XP altogether. However, many did that with FSX was released a long while back but many jumped back on the XP wagon shortly after MS never updated anything. If XP is to survive they should help with other developers make it easy for weather addons, traffic and ATC otherwise.....people have to dance around their updates all the time.
Asbo and Microsoft have said MSFS 2020 PC version will come out first
The next decade starts in 2021 mate. But thanks anyway :) And yeah, I agree it depends on our individual situation. But I'd also say it's down to what kind of addon we consider buying. A fantastic, study-level airliner we always wanted ? Why not. But another cloud enhancement package which won't even be half as good as MSFS 2020 ? Probably not worth it. Personally, I've recently purchased SFD Global for X-Plane as well as Orbx TE Washington, but I don't think I'll be buying more. Might get a few cheap airports to fly between in my free Zibo 737, but anything else just feels wrong at this point. Having said that I'd love to get rid of those crappy clouds :D
Actually, I beg to differ. The new decade has indeed started, mate ;). Fair points though! As long as not buying any more things for your sim doesn’t make you lose interest towards it, that’s fine! But my points were that the fact of MFS alone shouldn’t deter people from keeping on improving their sim!
@@CptVince No the new decade will start in 2021 and will end in 2030. (I think)
davidtsw ok ok I’ve been reading on it for the past thirty minutes. It’s still debatable and both regarded as acceptable :)
CptVince Mmmh maybe it's not the same logic as what we would have done with the centuries 🤔
@@noah9130 why? So the new day start exactly at 1:00 am?
Opinion dismissed.
The cockpit on the A320Neo from FS2020, I do not respect the reality at all.
Microsoft doesn't have the best track record when it comes to standing behind flight simulation starting with FSX. When I start seeing big name 3rd party developers develop for Microsoft again then I will see.
all the major 3rd party developers will jump ship with XP and P3D - it's not hard to predict. Once the addon developers drop XP, XP will die (if it doesn't die before that), since XP without addons is complete shit
So it all comes down to "Do you have a good enough hardware" which will be true for any new generation of any kind of sim or a game. The real question is, "Is it better?", and the answer is "in every possbiel way". It's not like this is a 3rd world community so you don't have $500 to upgrade your computer, or you are still on a dial-up. Almost anyone who really like flight sims will find the way to buy the hardware and play the most realistic flight sim ever.
Glad you didn't say I won't do anymore videos till MSFS 2020 is release.
I remember buying xplane 11 the night b4 e3......fml
You could've got a refund lol
@@kepyyy5766 wait what, how? but eh i think ive logged more than 1000 hours in time to to move to the volumetric cloud generation
xd
hello cpt. vince, which traffic addon do you use?
can i use p3d addons on MFS 2020?
No. There difrent. Msfs is more for entertainment
Actually, you should stop, and have stopped a while ago, since pretty much all of them are extremely overpriced and won't be supported 6 months down the line. MSFS or not, Xplane and P3D need a wake up call.
I’m actually looking forward to msfs2020, not to play it, as my computer won’t be good enough, but hopefully prices for everything else will go down
Interesting POV here! Though it all depends on how successful and determinative the release of MFs isn
I xame from Fs2000 and have had nearly every version of Microsofts sims to date. I will of course be getting the full version of this years new sim from Microsoft and also have bought P3Dv4 as well. I never got into Xplane and I will never buy it in the future. I think developers are panicking that simmers will not purchase their products if they continued to deliver their products according to their own release timeline before MS announced their own sim. Developers are actually hurting themselves now by rush releasing a lot of products out recently that are not finished. I have seen so many product releases lately that are not complete and require many updates after launch. I personally am not spending any more on P3Dv4 anymore going forward as I HAVE A LOT of products at the moment to keep me happy. I doubt i will be using P3Dv4 going forward in the way i use it now. I will most likely use it only to stream footage from P3Dv4 as everyone else will be streaming footage from MS new sim. I will not be using P3Dv4 as a flight training as I have been in the past as i can say that Ms new sim is more realistic in the planes they have shown.....
Fair points here. I agree with you that we should not endorse devs that release half baked products, but is it really the case for every new release since the announcement of MFS? Debatable. It will also be interesting to see Lockheed’s response to all this! Cheers!
First 3 minutes is a video of a guy explaining the content of the same video.
Yes, it’s called an introduction :) But the presumptions are not part of the intro, they are premises upon which my arguments are built. The outline is necessary in a case such as this one where the content is a bit heavy.
May I remind everyone, MFS2020 is in ALPHA mode. There is no way in hell anyone can yet make any determination on anything and/or comparison with other products that have been on the market for years. Anything discussed on MFS2020 is purely speculative. Stop comparing an ALPHA with a released product.
I believe we have enough content so far to speculate more accurately. But yes, still speculative and this is addressed in the presumptions!
A speculative opinion that's all this video is.
Hence the presumptions.
@@CptVince Should change the title then.
Hello Captain, I fully agree with you. Live now and leave later...
man, any release for Msfs2020 by current addon developpers they will charge a new full price, so what you say is nonsense. You should all stop buying addons for ganes that are soon part of history
Is this an advertisement wtf
Couldn't say it better,although Iam myself still not knowing what to do.
Exactly, stop buying just for the sake of it is dumb.
From all we know, FS2020 could not be ready for a whole year, and then what, wait a while year and still not buy an addon that you would maybe like ?
I highly doubt it.
Also people tend to think FS2020 will be the Messiah, that everything will be perfect, do everything, fix everything, etc.
Let's be realistic here, it'll not.
Maybe for your casual airliner yes, but what about bushers, helicopters, multicrew, built-in multiplayer with an exact and precise netcode like DCS World ?
Also switching games like go to FS2020 and simply abandon your previous game also is dumb.
Why not just add FS2020 to your collection and keep playing the others aswell ?
There is a very long way before FS2020 will have the same level as my X-Plane setup has.
I still play FS2004, Falcon BMS, IL-2 1946, and there's a reason to that, other sims don't have their features.
Good vid dude !
Great points Snax! I endorse all of them and I think they echo what I said! Cheers and see you in the skies!
xp11 is on mac and takes way less cpu
also compare flight models(its a sim not a game), not scenery
Disappointing!!! I suppose Microsoft spent 50,000 dollars on balloons for the grand opening. The talk was about the fantastically detailed scenery and flying over your own house...now you're only going to be able to land at 20 airports unless you kick in another $30! 120 dollars for the deluxe ,super duper ,crem-de-le-crem adition???....What the fuk is Microsoft trying to do... raise money for a used Citation Jet or something? WOW....this is going to turn into a complete nightmare! Can anyone say BUST!!! I guess if I'm going to make the purchase (and I'm not ) then I'll need a signed statement by the Microsoft Corporation to the effect that I will be able to Add-on Airplanes from outside designers! That's the problem with these millennial punk-asses, they don't know what a C-47 or a Beech 18 is. I hope Microsoft wasn't marketing this toward some Island Nation like the Philippines or England. What do they have, about 25 airports between both of them? I guess they would be impressed by the bells and whistles of a 737 because that's they're experience with general aviation. For Christ sake's...go to flightradar or flighttracker on google and see how many general aviation aircraft are actually flying over England, Spain, France, Italy....the list goes on! That's why America has over 2,000 airports and you can find any number of old planes sitting on the apron like AT6 Texans, aeronca champs, Cessna 334's, Beechcraft V35 (v-tails)! About 100 U.S. citizens are going to buy this sim and the whole thing is going to FLOP! Maybe they can make an Australian edition...down there they might be impressed with 20 airports because that's all they really have! Somewhere in the back of my mind I thought this was too good to be true, and I was even going to build a gaming computer just for this! I've flown over 300 different Aircraft in FSX, balancing manifold pressures, RPM's,/prop pitch, mixtures, and monitoring fuel burn, altitude,airspeed and trim! And yes...I've flown the turbo props and the Heavy's! But Microsoft is going to offer us a fuking Jumbo jet and a Diamond aircraft...and a piss-ass number of airports to land at. Oh yea...I forgot..., for another 60 bucks you can get 10 more runways....christ! Isn't it just stupid ...you take off in a 737 and in 10 minutes you're flying over all the special weather that Microsoft created! Only people who don't know who Mr. Haney is from 'Green Acres' ( Americans should get this ) are going to get sucked into this shite!
no, there are 30-40 handcrafted airports, and all the other 37000 airports in the world are autogen. 60-120 dollars is completely reasonable. P3D's professional edition costs 200, xplane costs $60. And by the way, even the autogen airports look fantastic.
Given Microsoft's long history and philosophy as a company (and I've been around during all of it), I plan to stick with X-Plane. Yeah, not a fan of Microsoft.
Are you ready to let yourself be convinced by a new philosophy or are you firm?
@@CptVince Me? Firm. I don't think Microsoft has a "new" philosophy. New software, yes. New philosophy? Nope. Same old Microsoft.
you talk too much
I have decided not to get MF2020 the reason for that is I have P3d V4.5 and X-Plane 11.41 I have some serious addons for both sims and some very good free ware products all done by a flight sim community Microsoft want to kill this community and have a flight sim with a business model which will be online products and subscriptions so you will pay for something you will never own.
Stop subricbing and you loose everything and be left with the base model FSX
I have no room for a more flightsims thats why i never got Aerofly FS2 its all eye candy not a flight sim perfect for Xbox game and Xbox gammers i will continue to purchase for my current sims and microsoft can go and take a jump dont forget we are talking about Microsoft here rip merchents
I think you are incorrect I don't see me rushing out to buy into a Microsoft product I have been following this product for some time and all my prediction are and will happen you will only be able the buy the base product FSX and the rest will be rented or subscribed has they like to call it you not own any of the product Microsoft will drain away your money and people like you will buy into the lie and thank them they have already got the feeders out now selling the software on you tube there business model is the same as Iracing look it up they temp you with crumbs and then they have you and when you stop subscribing all you have is FSX don't say I didn't warn you.
Good luck Arvid if MSF 2020 is your dream then go for it its not mine.