What, Who, and Where is Black Brussels? | BLACK EUROPE IN BRUSSELS
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 30. 06. 2021
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As part of the online interdisciplinary conference âBlack Europe in Brusselsâ, we bring to you an in depth conversation about one of the most cosmopolitan and diverse cities in Europe: Brussels.
Since the relatively late emergence of a Black African population in the 1990s, the city has become host to activist and cultural associations and organizations concerned with community building as well as with issues of coloniality and racism. The cityâs decolonization movement, which received a new impetus by the killing of George Floyd in the spring of 2020, has renewed attention for the role of the cityâs public space and urban landscape in upholding the rather glorified memory of Belgiumâs colonial past. In the past decade Brussels also has become the place of residence for a large number of Black African refugees who were stranded in Belgium by increased travel restrictions imposed by Britain in the context of Brexit but who, as inhabitants of Brussels, are often overlooked. How do these various types of Black communities connect, move, make space, and resist in Brussels? This panel gathers Black locals of Brussels Dorrie Wilson, Jean-Luc Rwogera & Modi Ntambwe discussing the history, present and future of Black presence in the city. In doing so, they explore the influence of the cityâs multilingual, interfederal and international character on Black organizations and communities.
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Enjoyed listening to this conversation. Congratulation to BSB for documenting views and meanings on the Black and African diasporas in Belgium. Great job !
build your own community in your own land. then you have ownership.
LOVED this discussion and will definitely share it. Fun format of picking out questions from a hat. Well done!
Loved this conversation!
Very interesting. It seems that africans still wish to be nationalistic/ethnic/tribal before anything else. Everyone has ethnicities but the politics of the world dictate that people must unify. We cannot speak about oneness and the unified human race if we ourselves cannot submit to unity and oneness. Europeans come in many colors but move as europeans same with arabs but I am noticing a deep racial/ethnic/tribal prejudice which lies in many africans, and a seeming inability to get over it to move forward.
More action less speaking, asking, defining. LIVE. CONQUER OURSELVES. Yes.
I flew into Belgium on my way to Ghana from the US. Lol. They pulled me aside and rifled through my luggage. Other than that some people were nice to me. Its an individual thing. Racism is ignorance. Jealousy is also involved.
I appreciate the George Washington Williams acknowledgement but it goes back even further. John Hope Franklin wrote a 500 page biography of George Washington Williams. Shortly after the Civil War, King LĂ©opold hired Williams to be his lobbyist in Washington. LĂ©opold used the return of formerly enslaved Black Americans having a homeland in the Congo as a ruse for Belgium to be at the Treaty of Berlin and to have a US navy protected land. Without Black Americans Belgium would never have been able to stand against France and Britain.
34:30 finally something interesting.
Well if you put aside the blacks in europe problematic. I am german and we germans have simular problem even from arab, turkish ,black ,... background... We are ashmed what we have done ww2 and try to earase it from ourself.
the grand grand mothers/vaters know what have happen there ,like the japanese ,but they put it in a trashbin and dont want remembered...like you said we never want reopen the wound again.
The victims dont get justice and its maybe wrong,but in the same time we avoid the chaos in the micro race from Unites States.
Like starting fresh on the white papier ,but the papier is bloody and not white ,but we pretent the papier is white.
I find it funny how the black american says she has a connection to the Congolese, because another black american in 19th century exposed what happened in Congo. How do you think black america has any 'connection' because of that? đ
We are the moors/Umayyad/Israelites
What you mean what?
@@bobbyswan5659 No The Moors ruled Spain whatâs fake about that
@@bobbyswan5659 West African. No Iâm African simple plain.
so what are you doing in france ?
For me Belgium is 1 community , maybe Africans need get more involved ? Start some political party ?
Africans donât need to do sh*t but get more integrated into any society they find themselves in without playing the race victim card! Thereâs tribalism in Africa and itâs even worse than any racism. Just respect the fact that the new country you live in has their own culture.
africans will aways be african. soil does not change them.
"I was never considered black in Congo, I only realised when I came to Belgium". Ok, and? The world isn't just your little village in Congo. Belgium isn't Congo. You and others would have understood not everyone looks the same if you learned more about other cultures in the world.
I am Angolan. After my ten years in Ukraine, I expected a better Belgium, but the country is full of people, the services are awful & costly, and I feel pure racism hidden under "Bonjour and smiles". I have been to many countries and I wonder why would someone want to live in Belgium. Well, there is no perfect country anyway. ...If this generation can't learn from history, then the next generation will do (it takes time to accept other things/guilt... ). I am mostly surrounded by Europeans btw. I would avoid generalization.
I've heard that Belgians can be.... ahmmm "difficult folks" for anyone- a friend who is European-American told me this after her years of being in Europe.
Any further explanation ? when fortune seekers do not get what they want they always speak badly.
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Move on. Other countries have.
This is a useless conversation. To keep peoples mindset in a constantly triggered mode about their skin colour! How come itâs only black Americans looking for racism issues everywhere! She starts with a categorical statement of untruth and throws off the people sheâs supposed to be interviewing. We are defined by others blablabla Ps wtf is Africanism? đIf you respect other peoples cultures and understand you are in a location that has another culture different to yours, you would be fine!
No oneâs looking for racism. It exists whether you want to ignore it or not. She wasnât even the one that created the question, the questions were pre made and she pulled the card out of a hat.
Also Africanism comes from the term and idea of pan africanism. Google is free look it up. Why youâre so mad at black people having a simple but real conversation shows a lot more about you and lot less about them.
We live the life. Those who have a problem with it should take the conversation & put it on their lips. But instead theyre about action. Uninterested how the underdog feeeeels. Whilst we still chat about "racism existence progression etc." This is NOT our purpose to have OUR minds triggered about our skin color. Agreed I'm here in US wondering how developed fellow black minds are in Belgium. đ€Under attack đ€·đŸââïž like most of us đ€„đ€
Why do you want to segregate yourselves so much? What's the problem with non-african products? You don't want to fit in and than you are surprised you don't fit in? đ
So many 'identities', but never thought of trying to fit into Belgian identity...