Flame Monroe Hurts Trans Community In Problematic Breakfast Club Interview
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2019
- Trans comedian Flame Monroe took to the Breakfast Club and spread all sorts of problematic rhetoric that many find harmful to the trans community and challenges much of the progress that has been made to date. She also discusses issue ridden past with fellow comedian Mo'Nique.
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One thing I liked about the interview is that she stated that they were her views and it doesn’t reflect the whole community. Every trans person does not think alike and to act like they all should is problematic itself.
#agreed
Magdalena Santiago right that’s what I was saying technically she is not even trans anyway, and straight people are gonna take what she says and run with it
@@_Spicymorenita Flame said she IS trans. Took hormone therapy in the early 90's it's been 30 yrs since transitioning. How YOU redefining Flame, without permission🙄
Exactly!!!
@@_SpicymorenitaWe as black ppl are still fighting for basic rights!!
Can she be her own person? Why do people assume that ALL Transgender people think the same? That's like saying one black person represents ALL black people. Plus she's a comedian.
jadediamond03 Thank you. I think Flame Monroe is a hilarious comedian & the special was funny as well 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ I honestly didn’t see anything wrong with the interview.
EXACTLY. She said SEVERAL TIMES that she was speaking HER TRUTH.
That's my thing. Why is she getting backlash for her personal views ? No 2 ppl are alike.
@@RoRoGlamDivaDoll Exactly!
jadediamond03 because her views contribute to homophobia and transphobia which has real life repercussions
The fact that the majority of gay men are trying to dictate how she should speak about her experience is exactly what she is talking about.
Right.... No one has to participate in the illusion. Just cause they never understood the concept of puzzles and nature. Penis is made for vagina. Men can't procreate with men or women with women. Just cause one's mental instability causes them to think they are women doesn't mean I have to be in denial too.
Facts
❤️
TheHeadwrap exactly. Period. And even you see the issue as a straight woman
He is not a she
She didn’t damage the community.. she actually made us understand y’all more
Who is us? I got it before Flame and get why Flame's way isn't 100% for every trans person.
@SUGAR TO SHIT which part was bitching? How about you stop trying to tell folks what to do online.
Thats part of the problem. You're fed a wrong narrative that reads as inside information and you accept it take away and sit pretty with harmful 'knowledge and understanding'. That's why his narrative is so damaging...
@@pjsamuels7095 but how about for those that don't understand it starts a conversation and has people finally wanting to understand and start doing there own research.
Yep the malik interview is the one that left me confused AF!
I’m apart of LGBT community & I feel like Flame didn’t say anything wrong. Life is pretty simple. We make it complex cause everybody so sensitive & be doing to much!
crisa251 💯 💯 Real grown up perspective!
Right I feel the same way. Flame just stated the reality of it all that’s all 🤷♀️ and I support the LBGT community 100%
The PROBLEM is she was legitimising the arguments of oppressors. Now you gunna hear people that genuinely want to discriminate against the LGBT community use what she said as justification for their abuse. So next time a white alt-right hurls abuse in the street at a PoC trans woman, calling her tranny and whatever, they are gunna say "oh its ok because Flame Monroe said its fine".
IMAGINE if a black person went on TV and started saying the N word doesn't offend them and its absolutely fine. Would you be happy with white people calling you N* in the streets?
I agree
I’m apart of the community and i totally agree
Nothing problematic about the interview. It was sensible. Monroe lives in reality.
Period
I second that!
💯
Ok as a gay man I enjoyed & saw nothing wrong with it & us gays always crying about sumthin😂🤣
MRiGOThim Or we are being overdramatic 😩
Flame is one of the realest..PERIODTTT..and HeSheWe stated “I am not speaking for the community”
Period!
Exactly
Solid as steal and the facts are real💃💃💃💃luv Flame Monroe he ain't with that ni%%@ shit he's a realist
Amen
MoCaa ThePrimaDonna she didn’t clarify that she wasn’t speaking for the community. She spoke in general her opinion basically that we are all the same and that’s not true I can’t name one transwoman that will agree!!!
Flame spoke what people didn't want to hear because it made more sense for a change.
I'm glad Flame called them out about that confusing ass Malik Yoba and friends interview
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Errrrbody was
I honestly was very confused. Especially when they started correcting each other.
Exactly I was done with that interview the moment I heard one of them state that being born a woman is not natural. I was DONE!!
me too cause she was right
Why is everyone upset about someone speaking THEIR truth????? I just don’t get it!!! The community is not one size fits all!
Right and heshewe said that sitting right in TS Madison kitchen on and before the show startec.👍👍
Exactly
ITS HARMFUL. That’s why. Since when did a person spewing ignorance become a their “truth” Donald Trump speaks his “truth” all the time. Does it make him right??
The black community does it as well. As soon as one person stands up and says how THEY feel. We're up in arms telling them for to think and what to say
The problem, from what i hear, is that people that are against the community or don’t know the community will piece and crop clips or words that Flame spoke, that will be spread throughout media and portray that “ok, well now I can say t****y” or “ She look like a he so i will say he/him”. So to those that are intelligent to know one person doesn’t speak for all, some will use these quotes as weapons and to advance their ideas
Yall hating cause she the realest in the whole alphabet community
That's why they mad. Flame kept it 1000
facts!
*He
But yes he understands reality much better than most in the alphabet community
Yeah he was real
Actual Factuals👌🏽
I'm confused...the LGBTQI+ community is to be taken seriously but Women's issues aren't?
Sounds onesided .
Londiwe Mtshali exactly
Londiwe Mtshali ...yessssss
@SuperBlue BloodMoon
He implied it in the video please watch again
Whataboutism is curable. Seek help asap symptoms include:
loud and wrong
Cherry picked points
And listening to respond not being an active listener
Chile they think they're the NEW WOMEN. NO SIR
I loved that flame gave respect to women while speaking on HER TRUTH and was funny as hell while also making sense!
Yes it did make sense. But why people mad at the truth..AND heshewe is Gorgeous
Exactly
@@kkgreen7946 exactly
EXACTLY!!!!
Yes! keywords HER TRUTH!! (he/she/we)
The interview made sense to me, but I’m not a part of the LGBTQ community.
Facts she made so much sense! I understood it all
I'm Apart Of It And It Made Total Sense To Me, Shit I Was Half Raised By A Transgender 🤷🏾♀️
Nicole Llih why are you triggered by the truth?
Which is why it didn't make sense... speak on what you know
j bailey but the trans community don’t know either 🤦🏽♀️.
Flame Monroe is everything. I don’t feel like she him them set the trans community back. What’s wrong with Flame 🔥 telling her truth. I have respect for everything that was said.
But why if a person disagrees why do they have to be “ANTI GAY” that statement alone is forceful...I’m sure she believes in gay rights too..she just has a different opinion🤷🏾♀️
Cicely Shepherd as a gay person I agree with you 100% live your life and stfu.
@@MinneApLaray 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cicely Shepherd you know i bet a lot of people say the same thing with black people when we call someone racist. Like for example Gina. I was just singing a song. But y’all still dragged her ass. Y’all get the N word is a hell no. Most white people think it’s slang like saying dude or bro 🤷🏾♂️. They’re not saying nigger so they’re not racist. There’s no hate behind it so it’s not racist. Right? Get tf
“I’m sick of this gay shit” and you think you’re ass isn’t homophobic. Bitch fix your hair and open a book.
Or homophobic. Chile they just does 2 much.
Britt say it again for the ppl in the back.. I’m still stuck on why does this even have to be a convo.. why can’t the two ppl dating each other have a private convo and they tell each other what they like or how they like it.. it’s not our business what u identity as unless We hit on u.. maybe I’m crazy I just don’t get it
I'm so glad everyone in these comments aren't just agreeing and speaking their own mind. I loved that interview he kept it real and spoke HIS TRUTH
Emily flame stated that HE doesn’t get caught up pronouns HE still has a dick so HE is a man
Im getting tired of biting my tongue.
I agree.
Emily Spencer did you listen to the interview?? Or any of his interviews? He/she doesn't matter to him. Watch him on TS Madison show
@Emily Spencer go watch the interview hun...
The gay community can be mad all they want, it really doesn’t matter because Flame said what he said.... Bloop
And Flame is part of our community and I’m not mad at Flame
BLOOP BLOOP IM WITH SUS
Bloop! Lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not all of us are mad. Lol. Just saying.
Flame spoke her truth. Not other people's truth! Why is everyone mad?
*his truth
😉
Because people will turn it around and think it should be everyone else's truth.
@@jarrettfreeney who cares? Your love life is yours alone. Your truth is YOURS. No one else can define that for you. Stop being a pussy
@@goddesssoreonne1059 Why don't you stop being a bitch? Apparently some part of you cares, otherwise you wouldn't have bothered to comment. Your truth is YOURS, but when you are an ICON and a PILLAR of your already oppressed community, people assume your personal truth is also the truth of your community. It is amazing how people of color are not recognizing this... There were lots of black people who supported segregation and were against civil rights.
Is this how you really feel or is this because she wasn’t feeling you too much and voiced that on the Queen’s Court?
R K speakkkkkk!!!!!
OOOOP!!!
That Part!
Excatly 🤣
Exactly
She’s been a trans longer than most. So she’s experienced a lot and found her way of getting through things. SHE SAID WHAT SHE SAID, that’s HER TRUTH.
Tierra Boddie Thank you! Flame was doing this since the 90’s , when we were babies! She was on Comicview and Def Comedy Jam. She opened doors also for the Trans Community
exactly
@@airtonya SheBbv Helped Poise To Get On T.V. If Were Keeping Real!!!!!
Flame isn't trans tho, he clearly said "I'm a man up under this wig", he continuously stated he is a man and lives as such. he is a drag queen
@@REALBABYBOI on botched she stated she is transgendered, she used to live his life mostly female and then out of respect for her kids she started to dress as a man so her kids wldnt endure bullying.. she's transgendered shes always wanted to be female and was feminine but she knows she was born male, she still has a penis she said women dont have penises
Why is it that gay men can call straight woman every dam name,but a child of God,but we have to watch what we say. Please
Saudia Gant agreed
Facts
Say that shit for the ppl in the back, you are dead fckn right
@@user-dh5rb4xi7t Say IT Louder for the slow ppl in the back..I noticed it's always the gay men that's the most disrespectful to black woman...FACTS!!
I notice that too 🤦🏾♀️ they want to elevate themselves by stepping on straight biological women. For some reason we are public enemy #1 in the LGBT community. First, we got the femme gay men that hate us cause a lot of them want to be with straight men then we have the transwomen who hate us cause they think we are jealous of them 🤣
Naw, Flame spoke for Flame 🔥
She said she was only speaking for “herself” a few times during the interview
A lot of what she said is valid
How did Flame disrespect the Trans Community? Flame stated his OPINION so stop acting faint💥💥💥
There's nothing wrong with stating your own opinion, however, Flame Monroe has a large following. It becomes problematic when someone with a large following states their own opinion about a subject and people view the subject only one way. You also have to remember that every trans-woman's experience is their own and one cannot simply say that all trans-women are the same. She mentioned that part briefly but still continued to speak referring to the whole trans community. I hope this helps anyone that is confused as to why some transgender people are upset.
FLAME does not represent the whole trans community. IF FLAME wants to be called HE SHE We that is FLAME, but respect my pronouns. That's what the trans community is pissed off about. Don't group us into your shit FLAME
@@Jacquee2012 Exactly. 👏
Flame keeps it real
💯💯🥰😻🥰😻🥰 flame.
As a straight woman, i must confess i liked the interview 🤷🏾♀️. Straight people have NO idea about whats acceptable, whats offensive or whats the proper word to use without being offensive.I never knew @FlameMonroe, after that interview i searched and found a new person to like and follow. I like the comedy. So please, as a straight woman, what was offensive?
Hell...I wanna know too!
I agree. I appreciated his honesty
Well damn, i as a straight woman would like to know where the problem was s well.
I agree
@@jluv4921 not true they are men that dress in women clothing that like men ain't nothing you can say that will change my mind🤣🤣🤣
Now you can disagree with someone without downplaying their talent. That seems very small. I like Flame, and I think she is funny. People can't just agree to disagree these days.
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I think he is funny and really, Dineva is proving his point. If you don't agree with the community, you are all kinds of things.
What did Dineva day about Flame!’?
Quiet as it's kept, I think this video in part is retaliation for Flame Monroe saying that #heshewe doesn't really feel Funky Dineva as an entertainer (Watch the pre-makeup portion of TS Madison's show with Flame Monroe).
I agreed with the "forced" comment flame made. When it comes to the cys label and special pronouns other than he and she.. I get confused, then annoyed. Be whomever you want, I'll respect it all. And I love that times have changed to the point where theres gay n trans people in commercials, tv shows and movies. But dont re-label me as a cys-woman just so you can say that a transwoman is a REAL woman too. Stoppit🙄
Thanks you!!!! That’s the whole point. Just because you choice to be your way doesn’t mean I have to change everything I kno to fit you
It's not about who is real or who is not. Cys is not bad. It makes it easier for people who want to have these conversations have these conversations.
What is the source of annoyance? Confusion I get but annoyance, why?
T C the point is why does the women that are born women identify as women have to be changed to cys women
@@MinneApLaray Please reread TC's comment.
Man fuck all the bullshit there are women and imitation... Accepting that real women bullshit is like me saying the white chick that pretended to be black in the NAACP is black too... Nigga please. Alot more people would fuck with you if you just kept it 100 like flame does. It's one thing to feel a certian way buts it turns into something else when somebody tries to get me to lie to myself because of how they feel... Weird as fuck.
Q, you could have left this one alone. Being a lesbian, I don’t see anything wrong with her interview. She spoke a lot of truth that some people in the community refuse to acknowledge.
Mshadz1 You ain’t never lying. Just bc you went to Florida State and ur degree in freakin Economics and some clout. Doesn’t give you the right to have an opinion about someone else’s opinion. So I’m with you he could have left this one the hell ALONE.
As another fellow black lesbian, I second that
Like lesbians and gay men don't treat bisexuals and transgenders just like straight people do. It's no secret that bisexuals and transgenders are the outcasts of the LGBT.
I was thinking the same thing, but then I saw on another CZcams channel that Flame said #shehewe didn't like Funky Dineva. 😮
@@kenpatt07 educated fool
The fact anyone thinks Malik Yoba is doing anything for you alls “cause” is confusing.
Marchetta Orr facts he only spoke out cuz he was outted so they told him to get in front of it and change the narrative
Thank you!! It seems to be lost in translation. He could care less and is clueless about the “cause.” It’s about self preservation in his case.
And Hell Killa Cameron proved boys can love pink in the 2000s. I thought we had moved beyond colors as well. Flames point was focus on major issues, not the small things.
Fact
re: Malik My issue was not only ignoring soliciting minors... even though back in the day, it was easily part of the life re: runaways, thrown out, etc.. But the men talking over the women and every two second corrections on the Breakfast Club interview pre-march. And why the T comm get upset when Flame was real about 'tran attracted' and what it means a lot of the time. Anybody that been in the community and those of us from the balls way back, KNOW what the deal is. Tell me this, to the average Joe and Jane that know nothing or claim to want to understand, did they get one piece of info from that original BC interview or learn more from the Flame one.
Marchetta Orr we have known for years that Malik yoba was dating trans women since the 90s that’s neither here nor there but him speaking out will help someone like him 🤷🏾♂️
I love Flame Monroe, she spoke her truth and opinion, what's wrong with that🤷
Me too I enjoyed it
Because what she said and the terminology was some bullshit... did you not listen to this entire segment...🤔
Connicia Morgan nothing
Yes she gained a fan in me..🤷🏾♀️ I like her
Candace Owens says racism doesn't really exist because she's never experienced it. I mean, if that's her truth...what's wrong with that?
Don't care if it's problematic. Flame speaking facts!!!
The part you disagree with most is the part I agree with most. It’s force feeding.
That part. Exactly
Period
I fux wit Flame cuz Flame fux with herself and she's very consistent. I enjoyed her interviews with TS Madison. They way they agree to disagree is honorable.
Focus Quinton Fooocusss....
That's true! Flame is very consistent!!
Ebony R. B. But I’ll disagree. She doesn’t fun with herself. She changes who she is often to fit her environment. She masks who she is for her kids and, again, other situations.
I think her interview cleared up alot of things those of us that are not in the community didn’t understand.
Like what?
The pervasive name calling and hypocrisy that we're use to, well I don't think you needed any clarification, LOL.
💯💯💯💯💯
So TRUE
YOU TOO IN YOUR FEELINGS!!! LET FLAME SPEAKS "HE SHE WE" TRUTH!!!! QUIT TRYING TO FORCE YOUR POINT ON US FUNKY
For real
@@Anonymous-gq4gq Boy u mad cause u was born HE!!! I DON'T CURSE NO ONE OUT BUT DON'T TRY ME!
@LGo0926 Only one dumb is a boy tryna be a girl oops !!!!
My bro is gay but never tries to be a girl he knows he a boy and happy with himself!!! Doesn't have to pretend to feel good so byeeeee! Y'all weird! I clicked on Funky cause I like him and will keep watching. It's called agree to disagree small minded BOYS!
Y'all "opinion" is not always right! Y'all lowkey prejudice against heterosexuals... but not ready for that conversation!!!!
I love Flame Monroe. She spoke her MF’n truth.
Funky dineva you being biased she speaking nothing but the truth
He is always biased on this topic. Just like he was with Malik's interview. He refers to us as "cis" which says a lot and what he thinks abt his target audience. If he was asked to NOT refer to natural women as such, I bet he'd ignore it.
Im transgender and i dont agree with the cis shit i just think you are a natural born woman and as far as with the interview with flame i love flame and i agree with some of the shit she said but not all
@@TheMsklg1981 what??
@@TheMsklg1981 You do realize all cis means is that you identify with your birth sex. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
Christie Hudson ummm that is not what cis means. Educate yourself before you attempt to educate others.
16:05 Why is it ok for Caitlyn Jenner to have her narrative about still liking women but Flame can not and now it confuses people?
C J sadly because the white male privilege still stands. even among those that implicitly believe it, Caitlyn is still white. Caitlyn got backlash too but it always cuts deeper when it’s one of our own
Edit: for those confused, ‘cuts deeper’ is not referring to my personal emotions. Not sure how or why I would be emotionally moved by what someone else does with their body parts. I’m speaking in terms of societal perspective and cultural norms. The backlash AAs/ADOS ppl receive from their own ppl is overwhelmingly negative especially in relation to sexual orientation, sexuality, and gender roles.
Deep🤜🏽🤛🏽
Keke Wilson it cuts deep when she says her sexual preference? How so? I don’t get it.
@@thatDarnnShay Good question?
QueenB “it” = the backlash. we as AAs/ADOS ppl criticize our celebrities and known figures to a point that other poc and whites don’t. For instance gabby Douglas with her hair, that sports caster with her wigs, Malik yoba with his preference, hell anyone who does fit our image of blackness and what it means to be black. We (from a social media perspective I.e black twitter) bully, drag, and beat into submission our known figures on a different level. And why would Caitlyn’s backlash hit home for me when I’m black? Caitlyn and I don’t have shared experience dealing with our culture and societal co-cultures. What was confusing?
Men being firefighters is not a social construct btw. The reason why men tend to be firefighters instead of women is because men are usually better built for the job. Are there women who can do the job just fine? Sure, but a majority of women just aren't built to do the work firefighters are required to do to save lives. Not a social roadblock, but a physical one.
LGo0926 Yes, there is. It’s called biology. Men have a more dense bone structure, more muscle mass and women have more fat content. Literally hunter and gather situation. Both roles are important, I don’t get why y’all keep trying to erase that.
@LGo0926 Evidence to prove that men on average are better built to lift heavier things more often than women? Really?!
@LGo0926 bro u are literally a biology negationist
Flame doesn’t have to go anywhere! He/she/we is AWESOME!
She’s made this same statement in the past! So i believe she says what she believes standing in her truth 🤔
Sure did! Heshewe said that right in front of ts Madison too.
@@courtneywilliams1 sure did loud live and most definitely in color 😁👍🏾
courtney williams You all did not pay attention to what TS Madison said. She also stated by flame allowing people to call her whatever caused an uncomfortable situation when she ran into a associate of Flame Monroe. Go back and watch the interview.
And I love that she isn't allowing them to bully her.
@@k.b.4655 that isn't Flames fault though. A grown man should have discernment esp in today's society where everything can be questioned. Flame isn't the only trans woman who feels like that so now they have to be responsible for every person they communicate with? That's ridiculous. I know gay men who allow his friends to use the f-word around him but they have enough common sense to know they cannot carry on that way in front of other gay men. So Flame is supposed to be silent on the off chance she runs into an idiot who doesn't understand the kind of climate were living in? Ts has a freaking penis and LOVES it so much that he brags about it and he wonders why it's hard to see him as a woman? What woman brags abt how big her dick is?? How isn't THAT confusing and problematic? There r trans women who still feel like boys even though they've had the surgery yet she has a penis and NEVER feels like a man? I call BULLLLSHIITTT! He knows he's a man just like the rest of them me do they just want our help in aiding their delusion. Ts only got titties be it made him more money from the freaks he was tricking with. I don't believe for a second that he believes he's a real woman. This is a bag for him.
Flames interview was so fire that, I am going to watch it again!!! Q everyone loves her authenticity, read your comment section!
Period!!!!
Is he mad because he hasn't been invited to the breakfast club?
Mrs. B 💅🏾
He mad about what flame Monroe said about him. Flame was correct, just reading to be reading and being too disrespectful
To answer you question...YESSS 😂😂
That part!!!
Doubtful.
Everything Flame said was real talk. I agreed with her throughout the whole interview but that’s just me.
As a gay, feminine blk man....I watched the interview and.....well flame wasnt really wrong. I can see how it can offend ppl but. She was right
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How?
Sammie Bean how????
@@nooniecoreyhaney I agree with most of what she was saying. That's MY opinion. Not here to debate but to give my opinion and comment. If u dont like it cool.
Sammie Bean as a black gay man who’s not fem how are you ok with flame pushing gay people back in the closet because it make straight uncomfortable. How?
Her opinion is her opinion. People are too sensitive.
Trans people are not a monolith.
Only gay people were mad 🤷🏾♀️
JoyJoy's World b/c it affect them...lol are y’all serious? Lmao
thtpeacechic how, they can get married now
@@JoyJoysWorld isn't that funny they are mad lol... Like Flame Monroe said the LGBT...ABC...PTSD
@@uniqwiab8679 still they trying to block it . We still have things we have fight for equality.
I actually liked the interview. I'm not sure why people are upset because that's the truth he/she/we lives. Dineva, he actually gave some clarity and made more sense to me than anyone else trying to convince me they are just as much as a woman and as a woman. You are the forcing she is referring to and I love you.
So it's okay when y'all calling real women "fish" Dineva?
Fish is good. Nothing wrong with being called that. Men are called or referenced to meat.
He sAid that?
@@Ianisatool no it's not. Fish was given to women because of what gay men thinks the vagina smells like. It's demeaning.
Cuz that pisses me off every single time one of their stupid asses says that. Knowing they would sacrifice their mamas just to have a cat.
@@cocoshenel
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Yet they wish they had one
us humans are clearly stupid.
I’m a gay male , and I really enjoyed flames breakfast club interview. She actually made perfect sense to me. I personally believe we as a people in this day in age, Are simply just too sensitive.
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I agree this society is very sensitive.
A gay male is not a trans woman therefore your opinion is irrelevant
Yeah dineva is being dramatic as usual
Chris Holmes a trans woman is a trans woman nobody is taking that from y’all/ you. Just respect that a woman is a woman as well.
She spoke her truth. It was a good interview.
@@_Spicymorenita and your opinion is yours to have. Enjoy and be blessed 😊❤
Flame Monroe is entitled to her opinion. Some of these youtubers are going to mess around and lose some bags. People overall especially straight people saw nothing wrong with her opinion, it's hers. Hell she gave a disclaimer before hand & stated that her opinion doesn't represent the whole community. Damn us straight people get misrepresented all the damn time & you don't see us crying. By the way Flame Monroe is funny.
Black is a skin color. Gay is a sexual orientation. Biologically men are stronger and women can birth children. The struggle don’t stem from the same situation!
Thank you.
Exactly...and I dislike it when they try to compare the 2...
Da Nile ain't just a river....
I'm not lying to me just cause they wanna
True but discrimination is discrimination. Everyone deserves to be treated fairly
@@deewoodson3545 Yup everyone, and all Flame did was say that respect needs to be given back to women. Equality shldnt have to come at the cost of real womens spaces and rights, especially when we are their biggest allies
Dayum, can’t Flame have opinions without carrying your whole dayum community?
Exactly and she said she does not speak for the community.... I guess he missed that part 🤷🏽♀️
Flame made a whole lot of sense though.
Have that same energy when Candis Owens opens her mouth!!
Isreal montelongo who???
I agree with q on this one. Flame downed her own community especially with the use of the word tranny. “She’s not speaking for the community” then goes on to speak for the community.
Are people allowed to have their own opinions and beliefs anymore without being criticized?
Yes but everyone doesn't have to agree with it .
Not if it doesn't cosign whatever this "movement" is standing up for at the moment
Nope! & I’m sick of it
Keep ur "opinions" at the kitchen table then. Dont come out here spewing shit on a large platform
Yes but funky don't gotta agree with it. All flame did was say you can be disrespectful to trans women....
Flame is a realist. And when you real people get in there feelings
Dante Kelly elaborate on that a little.
The alphabet community needs to have a meeting or something cause y’all never can come to a general understanding on ANYTHING. Which makes it hard for outsiders to understand as well.
Same could be said for the Hetero black community.
Truth. I'm a African lesbian and we can't agree on shit. To keep it a whole grand, people of the African diaspora period can't agree on a mf thing. I.e. The lgbtq, the conscious community, Israelites, hebrews, panafricans....so on and so forth. We All need a meeting we already dominate the American dollar. We're literally a force to be reckoned with I swear. But here we are🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️smmfh 😂😂😂 I still love All my Africans tho even though most of the conscious community hates my lifestyle 🤷🏿♂️😘😘
You mean like the black community? Practice what you preach and tell us when you get it right, Sus.
So flame isn’t allowed to live the way she wants and speak her own truth?? Oh ok
Brianna Marz couldn’t watch all of Justin because he was giving me to much BS! I enjoyed Flame and she helped me understand her life a lot better!
Exactlyyyyyyyy
Alicia Ervin Girl he was doing THEE MOST!! I couldn’t understand a thing he was saying. Once he started that crying rant, that was it for me.
She said the same thing to TS Madison to her face.
Yes she did😁💯💯💯
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@Tammy Crawforc you know it.Trying to say "well you dress like a woman and I identify as one,of course your not going to feel strongly about it" thats basically what ts Madison was saying.I agree with Flame beliefs tho
@Tammy Crawforc Hell Yeah😂😂
You all did not pay attention to what TS Madison said. She also stated by flame allowing people to call her whatever caused an uncomfortable situation when she ran into a associate of Flame Monroe. Go back and watch the interview.
Why is it that everyone takes whatever anyone says as gospel for their entire community? Lol
Flame said in ts Madison’s video that she didn’t like Dineva
and that's the bottom line to all this tea ☕
@@mpearlwSo that's why he going hard at Flame!
Very obvious lol
Yes! Which doesn't make any sense on why he's going so hard on "Flames truth" there is nothing to refute lol
Yeah I caught that too.
She did not hurt the community it wasn't a bad interview she spoke from the heart n was truthful I understood everything she said
shes giving people a lease to take trana people down with her comments, Thats hurtful
She said these were her views and no one else’s views. That was her disclaimer right there.
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Estrellitawilliams that’s right
THAT'S the part that's being overlooked. But not all of us are "mad".
Y’all community Is confused period... none of y’all can agree on anything but want everybody to agree with y’all situation 🤦🏽♀️
jasmine banks what I noticed about the lgbt community is a lot of them just want attention. Or they never been discriminated against they can’t help it. I’m a lesbian and trust me I’m getting sick of this shit
@@MinneApLaray speak on it my daughter my sister's gay and we're tired of this rhetoric too we're living a bullshit free life no drama
Dante Kelly since I make a comment about something I’m not apart of it. Even if I don’t wanna be a part of something that’s my business. People like you are what’s wrong with the word today.
jasmine banks Your comment, Sis... drop the mic! 💯 facts 👏🏽👏🏽
Facts
Example: Forcing your lifestyle means telling us what pronouns to use to refer to your reality.
I think someone has the right to be called/referred to however they choose, BUT like Flame said, 1 pronoun doesn't fit everybody.
@@BTonTV Sure that's true, but also everyone does not have to agree to them either. You can have a different opinion as long we are respectful to each others percpective.
@@NaeNae23 I like to think that if you can't call a person what they specifically want to be called then you shouldn't call them at all.
@@BTonTV If someone addresses me and I respond with a pronoun I understand, I will respect their wishes and refer to them with that pronoun they wish to be addressed with, but I personally do not have to agree with anyone's ideology or be forced in their perception. That's all.
@@NaeNae23 I don't disagree with you at all on that. I've called people the wrong pronoun, been correct, and used what they've preferred. I think that's respect. Regardless of what I may think or how I feel, everyone is entitled to be respectfully addressed how they choose. I do think pronouns can stop at he & she though. All that "cis" shit just further confuses. And being up in arms because someone didn't know is unfair.
I enjoyed the interview because he she we was telling his truth ! I’m tired of someone speaking for everyone.
I'm part of the alphabet community and I wasn't offended
The black and gay argument is asinine. Black is a race, being gay is a sexuality , they are not related. I am not homophobic.Malik Yoba and Kaitlyn Jenner cases are confusing to me.
THEY'RE ONLY RELATED IN THE SENSE THAT BLACKS AND GAYS ARE BORN THAT WAY. ALSO BOTH ARE ANNOYING AS SHYT. BLACKS AND GAYS ALWAYS WANT TO BE VICTIMS. THAT'S ANOTHER WAY THEY'RE RELATED. YOU NEVER SEE WHITES AND STRAIGHT ACT LIKE VICTIMS. AS A STRAIGHT MAN WHO HAPPENS TO BE BLACK THINK THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS CONFUSING. MALIK IS CONFUSING AND BRUCE JENNER IS TOO.
Actually human being is a race. Being black and being gay are both things you don't choose. Nobody chooses to be same sex attracted. If so that would suggest that heterosexual people chose to be attracted to the opposite gender. No they are attracted to what they're attracted to.
@@UniqueNei I agree.
Probably because someone who faces hate for being Black and gay can tell you it feels the same. I wish more Black gay folk would speak on this. It's like the Black community wants a pass to be homophobic but still wants sympathy for experiencing racism? That's where all the side eyeing comes in.
Lov3lyme it’s something called sexual fluidity. Long term studies have shown human sexuality is not fixed or channeled. The born this way argument is not accurate. Many people can choose their sexual activity; some people attractions can vary over time. Stop forcing your ideological manufactured sexual identities on everyone. It’s also no gene that makes a individual hétero, homosexual, or any of the alphabets. Your argument of born this way is already backfiring.
I respected Flame's opinion but common sense should remind everyone that that's just it...1 person's experience.
That Malik interview was disrespectful to my intelligence.
Thank You cause that's exactly what it was
As fuck 😂
Disrespectful to anyone with a BRAIN. Lol.
LMAO damn that was a good one!
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I dont see where this narrative is coming from. She did a wonderful job representing the community. She was respectful, wasn’t emotional, and she was funny.
Your opinion doesn't count unless you're LGBT. So 🤫
@@itsniquenique45 Thats a terrible way of thinking. It dosen't matter if you're Gay, Straight, Man, Woman, Green, or blue. You can tell good representation from bad ones based on how they carry themselves and whether you would want them to represent you. White people respected MLK despite not being the same as him, so straight people can do the same for Flame and others. My opinion counts regardless.
Sooo insulting the community is representing the community? More like performative in front of straight men to me
@@1.0.2.4 How's she misrepresenting the LGBTQ community? Serious question, I'm trying to understand.
@@1.0.2.4 Either you didn't watch the interview or you're trolling and just trying to argue. She didn't disrespect anyone, she told jokes and she told her truth. Nothing more.
She said this exact same thing on TQC with TS Madison on two videos. None of you all said anything. Why is it so effective now?
Seems because its on a platform where more of a younger audience listens and now it's a problem.
Because it’s the Breakfast Club and the platform is bigger.
She is speaking her truth. Let her live. And I agree with the forcing that lifestyle on people. Look at the TV shows hell even the kids shows.
@Lucky Sport But it is ok for kids to be gay or trans. This isn't recruitment, this is teaching tolerance. All of you just want the cycles of hate to continue
Thank you. You summed it up so well. My feelings exactly.
@Lucky Sport Kids are smarter than you think. No one's teaching them anything, you can't be taught to be gay or trans either you are or you're not. They need to see that LGBTQ people exist and that it's not bad. Otherwise the cycle of hate continues. You can choose to be ignorant about the issue but the reality is that LGBTQ people have more rights now. Being visible is part of that.
The Flame Monroe interview was a breath of fresh air. I left the interview feeling enlightened.
No, you left the interview feeling like your prejudices against LGBT people are justified and that made you feel good about yourself.
@@paulielamont6739 Not true. HeSheWe was LOGICAL. Do what you want to do. But accept It is what it is.
Latonya's Bonnet me too girl
@@paulielamont6739 Your comment is the exact reason why so many people have prejudices against the LGBT community!
@@paulielamont6739 did u even listen. Flame didnt bash the LGBTcommunity at all. She spoke her truth and said give respect back to real women, where is the lie
I'm mature enough to agree to disagree Q.
Nic Andrews me to!
Same
lol me too
If you think her interview was problematic you’re the problem
Dante Kelly I can be a problem but everybody has their own views some are just more realistic than others everybody doesn’t want inclusion and that’s ok but anyone can agree everyday we wake up its a new term or gender another letter added to the community it gets confusing because the narrative is ever so changing
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They don’t like Tranie, most of us don’t like Cis.
I Loved the Interview. Flame called a Spade a Spade. She spoke Her Truth.
This feels like a very emotional rant. I understand the points your trying to make but you kind of emphasized the points Flame made of forcing tolerance. Nothing you see or experience is going to represent every demographic or orientation. Nothing Flame said was about putting down others. The statements made were based on personal experience and views. Not everyone is going to feel the same. You mad and attacking someone for plainly stating in a non emotional way their personal views. You represent the very example Flame spoke of.
MsMeka B. I love you’re comment ❤️
The point she was trying to make is proof of her point is exactly right because of how people including Funky Dineva is reacting to what s(he) said, when people can't express their beliefs on something they feel is wrong without backlash and repercussions, that's forcing it on people, how many celebrities and businesses has lost their jobs, boycotted, had to retract their comments, Chick-fil-A just met the gay community halfway today because they stood up for their beliefs, that definitely forcing your beliefs on others, parents have to support their small children without any questions and it's really sad, anyone has the right to do what they want but who have the right to say I have to agree, this world is backward and out of order, they want everyone to turn a blind eye and go with the flow, this is why every time GOD has destroyed the world only a few was saved, the majority has always been destroyed ‼️🤔
The best comment yet! I agree! Thank you. Dineva is making validating Flame's point!
I get where Funky Dineva is coming from but chiiiiile this is deep. Point very well made!
Exactly, HeSheWe said the group that attacks her most is gay men.
Loved her, and agreed with her whole heartedly on the subjects!!!!! Loved her!!!
Who is here after Funky just released his video to her????
Not everyone who agrees with Flame is religious 🤦🏾♀️ I'm atheist and still have the same questions and concerns
I love flame and I think she spoke NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH AND YALL MAD !!!
IMQUINN ain’t it tho
They are mad and confused.
B JC Period.
The truth is what that a transwoman is a man? Y’all stay telling on yall selves.
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Y'all really need to calm down, that's her truth we are not a monolithic community
I loved the interview. Maybe you need to go child.
Stop acting like it only Christian who don’t agree with homosexuality. That’s the one thing all religions agree with is the viewpoint against homosexuality.
And I'm finding that many non Christians don't agree with homosexuality..
Boss Bray and it also an ignorant perception to think all black ppl follow Christianity when that is the further thing from the truth
KAYLYN - STOP BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE.
@@UMANEDAKIDD19 nooo actually Christianity teaches that homosexuality is an abomination to God.
I Felt FLAME 🔥 IS THE ONLY ONE HONEST OUT HERE!! Y’all the ones always betting around the bush #TEAMFLAME
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
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Agreed!!!
Agree
FACTS
I love you Ms. Dineva but we may have to agree to disagree on this one. I just watched it and I thoroughly enjoyed it. She spoke her truth and I don't believe she need to be excommunicated from the community
So you can make money off of doing stereotypical portrayals of black women...
but "Flame Monroe has got to go" for just being himself and telling the truth?
Flame told nothing but the TRUTH.
I agreed with every thing Flame said and I'm gay .
And thats the point she was making flame is entitled to her opinion. She shouldn't b bullied for that. What i took from it was alot of common sense and that basically people need to mind they own business and let people do them as long as they not hurting no one
Because we gay people are not trans and our community is more transphobic than straights sometime
But I respect Flame’s right to hold her truth.
You being gay has nothing to do with the trans community.
As a can of paint, I think the LGBT is TOO damn concerned with labels.. Just live your life and be who you are. Have people refer to you however, you'd like, that's your right. However, you can't get mad at someone for their feelings.. If she is a me/she/he, then let her be. If you identify another way then fine. I refuse to get caught up in man made labels to make someone else feel better.
She spoke for herself. The same way you speak for you. You wrong Q.
Exactly
Quiet as it's kept, I think this video in part is retaliation for Flame Monroe saying that #heshewe doesn't really feel Funky Dineva as an entertainer (Watch the pre-makeup portion of TS Madison's video with Flame Monroe).
*HE spoke for HIMSELF
@@boomigotcha8601 Flame answers to he and she. So if I decide to use "she" you shouldn't be so pressed to try to correct me. Keep it cool toots.
@@jameswcoppedge Same! I love Q been watching him for years and will continue to. Gotta support my gay brother but I definitely disagree with him on this one.
Flame is a TRANS COMEDIAN! THE SAD THING IS SHE IS ONE OF THE ONLY OPENLY TRANS COMEDIANS THAT HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR OVER 25 YEARS! MOST GAY PEOPLE NEVER EVEN KNEW OF HER BEFORE THE INTERVIEW. SMH
So you start off saying that you won't go in on a "fellow colleague" and then you do nothing but tear Flame down. You fight for your rights but what about Flames rights to have "his-her-their" opinion (which btw was preceded by the disclaimer that this was his-her-their opinion alone!)
Some folks are purposely pressed about everything!
I loved the interview. She spoke her truth. I understood everything she was conveying.
For me I cannot understand how one individual feels about themself, can effect a whole community in any way.
That part...
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It doesn’t. People’s use of it as ammunition does. It’s like when a black person does things that are problematic. It’s an individual thing, but other races will use it as ammunition of “how black people are.” This is why black peoples continue to get disparate treatment in so many spaces. Individual decisions can affect the communities to which they belong. It’s just a fact. The trans situation is the same. There’s a reason why flame is so palatable to people who are typically opposed to trans people (and women in particular); none of them are positive. She has a right to her opinion, but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a negative effect on how people see others who are grouped in a category with her. She is a major exception to the rule. She doesn’t speak for the community. But people will see it that way. That’s part of the problem
Three minutes in and I’m out. Too busy to care about this “problem”.
Bye.
You took the time to leave a comment though
Ugly heaux bag
@@transgoddess31 Lol
Nobody asked for your fuckig input.
We as black women continue to support a community that doesn't support us back the same way.
@Dante Kelly Lies where? Tell me where black woman are being supported on issues that matter most such as abortion rights, rights to equal pay, right to an education and list go on. Tell me where the gay men and transwomen support us in such.
www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-benjamin-gay-men-need-to-be-feminists-20190623-story.html
He/She/They did a great job in my opinion 🤷🏾♀️
I loved it
Me too!
MissKo N yes ma'am
I thought the interview was dope. She explained a lot that I didnt understand
I agree. I learned quite a bit.
Plus when he said, I dont care what you had cut off, you still a man. You cant get pregnant, bleed once a month, so you arent a woman.
@@mwiggins0014 there are plenty of natural born women who cant bleed tho?????
@@toniletoya9986and they are natural born women who cannot have children but the point is they are still natural born women
@@miriamroka8892 and thats fine at the end of the day yes im transgender but im an woman as well just not natural born and thats okay im just being myself and if someone has a problem with that then oh well not my problem its yours on God
She was on the show because she’s a part of Tiffany Haddish’s special. Many of the other comedians have been on and they specifically told them to have her on. Aida specifically told Charlamange on his podcast that they needed to talk to Flame.
Thank you Funky Dineva for articulating this issue so well.👍🏽