Globalist Elites Are Trying To Fool Even Switzerland Into the Alliance | Alberto Togni
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- How do you FOOL a nation into NATO? Right, you prepare everything in the background-NATO-standard weapon systems, cooperation agreements, political coordination, certifications, even interoperability standards-so that on day X all that is needed is a political decision to flip the switch and that's it (the Swedish and Finnish model).
If this succeeds, then congratulations, you are now a proud satellite of US Empire and may send your sons and daughters to die for what ever nobel cause the wise strategists in Washington have come up with.
And official Switzerland-its political elites-are SWALLOWING THE GLOBALIST PILL WHOLE. The Swiss Government has been releasing a series of official reports that clearly outline the countries intention to become interoperable with NATO up to the point where Switzerland aspires to receive NATO certifications for adjusting its standards.
Good boy! Nice Doggy!
Don't believe me? Check out these pieces of work:
"Defence Ability and Cooperation" (Federal Council Report, January 31, 2024), German only (use DeepL or ChatGPT to translate): www.newsd.admin.ch/newsd/mess...
"Supplemental Report in Addition to the Security Policy Report of 2021 about the Consequences of the War in Ukraine" (Federal Council, September 7, 2022) German, French or Italian (use DeepL or ChatGPT to translate): www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/fga/2...
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That the population of Sweden was not allowed to vote on NATO is unforgivable and will be expensive for future generations both financially and in life.
Det är det att ha en granne som Putin….
In Croatia it was ruled that entrance referendum was to be repeated again and again Until voted in.
Resistance is futile
Ahahha @nkosipwl keep bsing. 😂😂😂😂 everyone knows that your leaders were bought off and you sold off to nato
@@Treasure_hunter_21 with imperalistic russia as a neighboor you better carry a big stick.
Sweden and Finland joining Nato is consquence of Russian imperalism. Sweden and Finland should have joined in 2014 when Russia started its imperalistic war in Ukraine, that and harsh western sanction could have stopped it.
@@nkosipwlstop being a clown. Russia borders 14 countries.
Under Putin Out of those 14 countries it has only gone to war with 2 of them. That only happened when they both decided to listen and follow Nato to attack and kill ethnic Russians in their countries.
Switzerland is choosing the wrong place in history, going closer to Nato. Stay neutral. The USA has Lunatics in charge and that is who Nato is. In my opinion. Thank you Pascal and your guest
Europe is occupied by the US and they start wars, undermine democracy and sovereignty in the name of peace, sovereignty and democracy.
Geopolitically, Switzerland was never really neutral. They are a safe haven and hub for Western banking. They provide back channels for geopolitical entities but really, are a source for Western intelligence. The much desired second ww would not have been possible without them.
The gloves are off and they need Switzerland at the front lines so to speak.
Agree with you, hope they stay out of NATO.
@@Wisteria__Lane according to what commission? 🤡 If it was not for Switzerland, Germany would not have been able to conduct the war. It was the US who allowed Switzerland to help Germany. The US itself also directly supplied oil to Germany up to 1945. Otherwise, no war.
@@Wisteria__Lane It's the best one on Switzerland? evidently not. 🐘 2 glaring clues, the first is that it's called a 'commission'. The second is that there is overwhelming evidence that it is not true.
@@Wisteria__Lane Evidently not. First, it's called a 'commission'. Second, it obviously ignores all the overwhelming evidence to the contrary to come up with it's conclusions, which brings us back to point number 1.
There's nothing like NATO peacekeeping mission in Kosovo. Its a NATO occupying mission, controlling a part of Serbian territory.
The Swiss army is there for about 25 years🤡
Which would confirm you are not neutral.
@@beatreuteler UN recognizes Kosovo as Serbian territory and since NATO waged a war in 1999 resulting in Kosovo creation, how could NATO forces be on a "peacekeeping mission" there? NATO has established a huge base there. Not sure why you would question my neutrality.
@@rashmigupta9 It's as simple as this: If you consider Kosovo as Serbian territory you took party of the Serbians. Neutrality is different.
@@beatreuteler what is Kosovo? It's not a country as its not recognized so by UN and until then, it's a disputed territory of Serbia which is under NATO control. Serbia is being threatened and arm-twisted for years by EU, the European political arm of NATO to recognize Kosovo independence. On top of that, US has a huge military base in Kosovo. And I don't think there's any doubt that NATO is US. These are facts and not a matter of taking sides.
I think this change in Switzerland can be traced to the money going into Swiss media.
Indeed - At least the Media in german language is totally biased/ignorant
twenty minutes is a weapon if intellectual mass destruction. and SRF is bought
Yes, the big media in Switzerland are a complete disaster, no real journalism to be found anymore.
Shameful.
What Switzerland's 'elite' class is to politics is what Nestle is to chocolate: Ultra processed, ultra-unhealthy, but has huge profits for stock holders, executives and lawyers. Not to mention the health and healthcare crises the chocolate unintentionally contributes to globally.
Gosh I love that comparison!!!! hahahaha. You just made my weekend!
@@neutralitystudies I love comparative political analysis, lol.
After all, it seems Switzerland is quite a country like any other.
Swiss newspapers are not neutral, neither are Swiss actions at the moment, rather sad!
Switzerland keep your sovereignty
Go ahead, Switzerland. Live and Learn
Washington defines sovereignty as being under total US control.
@meme-qk7jq....this is why Switzerland is having a vote within the next few months on Switzerland's neutrality. The people put together a referendum. The referendum states that Switzerland must remain neutral and can only get involved if the country is directly attacked; however, that is only a small part of the referendum. In addition, Switzerland cannot get involved with sanctions on another country i.e. like the sanctions on Russia which would have to be dropped. The Swiss people are smarter than their politicians.
Never had that, But never admitted that.
It was a Roman colony, until they signed a treaty with Austria and France. Dependent on three feudal powers. The Roman-Catholic Church, (Which declared and denounced Kings) The Austro-Hungarian Empire, and France.Before that, we were blocking trade routes, and basically ambushed and robbed everyone, until it was declared a country. Then we demanded Tolls.
@@lazapololapolo9824 We will see, 2020-2022 did proof to me that we are stupid as fu**!
There is nothing left i can identify with my fathers country.
Pestalozzi library had a event where Dragqueen did read children stories to the 3-20 years old!
Switzerland is dead!
We Swiss have become selfcomplacent. WE DON‘T care. The political spectrum left to right has shrinked to a dot. Life has become to comfortable and to say the least of our magistrates is, that negotiation skills sucks. Normally I would normally disagree to launder swiss underware in public but Mr Pascal has chosen a clever try to trigger a reaction.
weve become entirely subserviant to uncle sam. to a degree that for the first time in 40 years im ashamed of my country
@@catadoxas Technocratic jargon filled with acronyms seeps into our consciousness, as a novel fragrant gas seeps into a room. We fall into a lethargic dreamlike state. In the dream, we are "Modern Sophisticates" with no need for boring anachronistic principles. We learn that we have only one aim in life, and that is to indulge narcissistic urges. We discard Ugly Messy Things like power and responsibility. Let a distant Uncle have all of the power. He says he will Protect us and Keep us Warm! -- and Words are everything to us. Our minds are tied up in the tangled world of Grand Words and Theories. We have no time to notice that we have fallen, as the men of Odysseus fell on the isle of Circe.
Crazy for Switzerland if they give up their own sovereignty!
Et tu, Helvetia? I thought that the Helvetians did not have masters. How puerile that thought was! RIP Helvetian sovereignty.
Helevetin Sveitsi
This is how Europe never became one. 😢
All European politicians have dual citizenship, and are on the "elit" payroll.
I saw a good post on war fever. Euro leaders who will not go to fight, having fun talking about moving troops, positioning tanks and weapons and probably all the time having cocktails. Like a game.
Yes, that's very sad, but that doesn't mean we can't stand up and do it differently.
Einstein once said if you can't explain something to a 6-year old, you probably don't understand it yourself.
*How to explain the global balance of power to a 6-year old.*
1) Take an old-fashioned scale, those with a pivot and 2 shallow discs.
2) Put a candy bar below every disc.
3) Tell the kid that if I (the adult) put a Lego man on the scale, and the Lego man hits to the candy bar, that I (the adult) will get the candy bar below the Lego man, and he (the kid) will lose it.
4) Nobody is allowed to touch the candy bar, or he will lose it.
5) Demonstrate the counter-strategy for an imbalance, called BALANCING OUT a weight.
6) If the kid can balance the scale by putting a Lego man on the opposite side, the 6-year old gets to keep both candy bars
7) add further scales, to represent states, empires, and alliances (man-made systems) and regions or continents (natural systems), and repeat...
*I guarantee every 6-year old will "get" how to balance a weight after one or 2 rounds.*
Even once the incentive has been removed, every 6-year old with average cognitive skills, will STILL get it.
*The issue is that something as simple as explaining how to balance, will not be understood by certain people: mostly those types leaning towards being rich (status quo), proud (incl. patriotism), hectoring (a-holes), squibbing (nitpickers), swearing (ignorant), carnivorous (greed), all loosely quoting Thomas Jefferson.*
"The balance of threat theory is an offshoot of neorealism, coined in 1985 by Stephen M. Walt in an attempt to explain why balancing against rising hegemons has not always been consistent in history. In contrast to traditional balance of power theorists, Walt suggests that states balance against threats, rather than against power alone.[86] The "balance-of-power theory is not wrong; it is merely incomplete. Power is one of the factors that affect the propensity to balance, although it is not the only one nor always the most important." The theory acknowledges that power is an extremely important factor in the level of threat posed by a state, but also includes geographic proximity, offensive capabilities, and perceived intentions." (Wiki)
"In 1826, George Canning "called the new world into existence to redress the balance of the old". In 1898, Theodore Roosevelt found that the United States had become "more and more the balance of power of the whole globe." In 1941, a New Deal Economist with the National Resources Planning Board, Otto T. Mallery, averred that "destiny offers to the United States the ultimate balance of power and of resources in the world after the war." (wiki)
*Of course, according to accepted history, the USA was always just "saving the world." (me = ROTFL)*
"Eventually, explanation what implies "the balance of power *favoring freedom"* was dropped by "US National Security and Defense Strategies" of 2018: The Pentagon will ensure that the United States remain the "preeminent military power in the world," and the regional "balances of power remain in *our* favor." [Emphasis added] The "balance of power favoring freedom" appeared identical with the balance of power favoring *"us."* (wiki)
Critical question:
*Around the year 1900, while London still had the power to greatly influence world affairs, at this pivotal stage of history, how did the London veto Lords intend to avoid becoming the future "caboose" (§§§Footnotes) of someone else's empire as it slowly but surely morphed into a "locomotive" (power) right in front of their eyes around the year 1900?*
It is not a difficult question.
If you have the GEOGRAPHICAL ADVANTAGE of being on the own "side" on the rim of the world, faraway from what one has lain the foundation for, then one simply does not have to care what happens in some or other foreseeable future. The own side can benefit from whatever happens...
As long as Europeans are dumb enough to believe faraway empires are there to protect them, and can't grasp HOW they are being mis/used to protect the bigger empire, then Europeans will have to keep on suffering.
§§§Footnote
"In the early Cold War, US Secretary of State Dean Acheson combined the concepts of preponderance and bandwagoning. As he put it, the United States was going to have to be *"the locomotive at the head of mankind," while the rest of the world was going to be "the caboose."(§§§Footnote)* (wiki) For the kids here too young to know, a "caboose" is the dirty car at the end of the freight train where all the riff-raff go, where the new overlords in Washington DC intended to stick the last remaining true Western European power, the British Empire.
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"At the end of the war [WW2], Britain, physically devastated and financially bankrupt, lacked factories to produce goods for rebuilding, the materials to rebuild the factories or purchase the machines to fill them, or with the money to pay for any of it. Britain’s situation was so dire, the government sent the economist John Maynard Keynes with a delegation to the US to beg for financial assistance, claiming that Britain was facing a "financial Dunkirk”. The Americans were willing to do so, on one condition: They would supply Britain with the financing, goods and materials to rebuild itself, but dictated that Britain must first eliminate those Sterling Balances by repudiating all its debts to its colonies. The alternative was to receive neither assistance nor credit from the US. Britain, impoverished and in debt, with no natural resources and no credit or ability to pay, had little choice but to capitulate. And of course with all receivables cancelled and since the US could produce today, those colonial nations had no further reason for refusing manufactured goods from the US. The strategy was successful. By the time Britain rebuilt itself, the US had more or less captured all of Britain’s former colonial markets, and for some time after the war’s end the US was manufacturing more than 50% of everything produced in the world. And that was the end of the British Empire, and the beginning of the last stage of America’s rise." (globalresearch(dot)ca/save-queen/5693500)
*Mike Tyson - "Everyone that you fight is not your enemy and everyone who helps you is not your friend."*
When a boxer and the average 6-year old, are smarter than the so-called brightest heads on the planet...
Thank you for your discussion!
Great interview thanks guys.
Here goes your independence,
Which independence, I'm tempted to ask.
I enjoyed how Alberto stole all the money from the Spanish State Bank along with his friends.
ahaha he does look like el Profesor!
hahah best comment :)
Please, please, please, Switzerland has to stay neutral. It is one of the fundaments of the universe.
la suisse, c'est quoi, rien ! un repaire de fonds escroqués.
We, the swiss people don't have the backbone to force our goverment to stay neutral.
We could see how sla've's behave during co'vi'd and we could see it worldwide.
People always say "I can not change it" and go back to work. It's the same in every country.
Sla've's behave like sla've's behave.
Neutrality can be a crime at times.
@@beatreuteler ww 1, ww2 ? collaborateur avec les nazis ? l'or et l'argent n'ont pas d'odeur pour les voleurs.
Roman Empire did the same!
I do hear a bit of resignation in your voices and a country that stayed neutral during world wars is now being coerced into actions that will never benefit the people of this country but the ones that are doing the coercing. Creating awareness on the plight of one country is a good start, however effectiveness can only be guaranteed if there is lot more people in the discussion and when an entire country speaks with one voice there is no force in your country or in the entire world will be able to shift your foundations. What is required now is to garner more awareness to achieve an intended result, be aware of German government tactics and united we shall stand. Thank you for another great presentation and solutions to every problem on this planet exists it is a matter of sharing it on all the platforms we will, WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT ( Remember protection of information whilst scumbags are amongst us )
Fantastic talk;
Wish list:
Have a clean start with a title
Over time it makes easier to follow the series of excellent interviews;
Post a time series of topics to make it easier to jump to specific topics in the summary.
Keep up the fantastic work;
Your choice of guests are unique and provide a rare glimpse of original thought that is non existent in the press/ media. The rest of the EU press and academia are akin to lapdogs to the US media hegemony.
Thanks a lot! And well noted. I try to cut some discussions into two pieces to give arguments separate space, but since the discussions are not scripted and only loosely guided by my prepared questions, sometimes I decide in post production to take things apart that were meant to be together originally. And yes, the time series of topics is next on my list. Gonna try to get help with that (it's the kinda quality improvement that I have just been too lazy so far to do it...). Thanks for your support!
Fascinating but very sad
No, the NATO commander in charge is Norwegian- Stoltenberg.
Keep dreaming! He is the commander of NATO europe.
Do you think the US would allow any european to command theire forces?
It does not matter who is in charge. It will break nevertheless.
Jens Stoltenberg is secretary general(Generalsekretär)!
The Supreme Allied Commander Europe is
General Christopher G. Cavoli.
He is a US citizen.
THE SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER EUROPE IS ALWAYS US AMERICAN!!!
How can someone believe the US will let a foreigner command their troops!
Europeans are so NAIVE it's unbelievable!!!🤦🏻
Stoltenberg is the Secretary General, the Supreme Allied Commander Europe is currently a general Cavoli, an American. The post of SACEUR has never been occupied by a non-american.
@@foobar201 My comment on this was blocked. Nice that you was able to clarify.
Another excellent podcast Pascal! You and your
knowledgeable guest discussed the potential
serious ramifications, of Switzerland becoming
a new member of NATO. One never would have
imagined neutral Switzerland ever participating
in such an endeavor. It is preposterous that
this should be occurring now. However, your
country is simply following the dictates of
NATO , and by extension the never ending
overreach by the U.S.. We all know that the
U.S. pulls all the strings from behind the
scenes, regarding policies that are adopted
by and implemented in Europe. Sadly, U.S.
hegemony has no upper limits , and applies
equally to adversaries, as well as allies! It
is quite disheartening to see once neutral
Switzerland being led down such a
problematic path. The U.S. has an
uncanny ability to cause chaos wherever
it tends to meddle in the internal affairs
of other nations. This is simply the
latest example of that.
I think you and your guest covered sone
very relevant and important issues in
this podcast. Hopefully, enough people in
your beautiful country, can be awakened
to the travesty that is about to unfold in
Switzerland, and pushback against these
destructive policies, in an assertive
manner. To allow things to proceed
forward as they now stand, will not be
in Switzerland’s best interest, or the best
interest of its people. I hope you will
invite Alberto Tongi back for a followup
interview later this year, as things begin to
take shape? I think this is an important
issue that warrants some additional
discussion.
You are doing an excellent job in keeping
us all well informed about current events
around the globe. Please keep up the
good work!
This is exactly how Ukraina was forced to not be neutral and only deal with EU and in small print with Nato.
Pascal, thank you for these wonderful conversations.
You know the criminal USA does not recognise neutrality. Bush 2001, " you are either with us or against us".
Then the classic, " either you are part of the solution, or you are a part of the problem."
Your experience of providing the flower of your youth as mercenaries in past conflicts was instrumental in your country's choice to stand in neutrality. What happened to history? The world is going mad, literally!
Ooh he has the Pink Floyd Animals album framed, it's quite fitting for these days.
Well. What's not to get? They are cashing in. Did that a long time ago in US.
Don't trust them to inspect any part of your defense
You know they can't dig you put of the Alps
I saw a lot of garage doors in mountains
I would like to know the background of how Finland became a NATO member, with hardly any serious discussion on the matter. I think they were frightened by the war in the Ukraine and then panicked and became the latest victim of the USA industrial complex, that can now sell its merchandize of death. After living in Finland for 45 years I no longer feel safe with Finland being a NATO member..
Where is money there is target.
Russia already said - Switzerland is NOT neutral.
Who would have thought we would live to see Switzerland declining because of NATO???
We heard that being said, yes. However the Russians who said that are not the ones we should follow.
Only impunity finds neutrality aggressive
Finland recently joined and now the government is so heavily in debt that we've been put into extreme austerity. Functionally all public welfare (healthcare, education, pension, etc.) have all been gutted and I doubt they're done yet. This, combined with a wholly xenophobic population will cause this country's collapse shortly.
EU will collapse first but Finland will too, nevertheless.
European countries are also tricked into the EU. Are these guys old enough to remember that the whole EU started as The Common Market.
Then at the turn of the 20th century into the 21st, a common currency was introduced for those who wanted it... except that the Central Bank produced a blanket monetary policy, and individual countries maintained divergent fiscal policies.
Among other issues this meant that the countries using the Euro who wanted a strong currency got it at the expense of those who wanted a weak Euro curremcy.
They may have thought they were morphing into a United States of Europe, but without one big national budget -- and the status of the US dollar as the World Reserve Currency -- that wasn't going to work out especially with the actual United States subsidizing European Defense which helped European nations turn into welfare states, or perhaps historical theme parks living off of International tourism, which includes a certain amount of coastal recreation. (Unless I'm wrong, Switzerland has no Riviera or yachting culture.)
The US as a model of separate states forged into One Sovereign Nation will come into question as the BRICs nations Coalition seek to depose the dollar from its Reserve currency status Emma necessarily/deliberately impacting petro dollar and Euro dollar transactions, reminding everyone that destabilization can occur from outside of agreed borders and treaties.
The real deception is that when the EU is solicitously adding member countries, it offers all kinds of flexibility about trade and travel and use of national currencies -- as it gradually erodes national sovereignty with one-size-fits-all over-regulation(s).
But the real test is when a country wants a divorce or wants to control its own borders. Brexit showed the world how long the EU could refuse to bargain in good faith -- as it turned out even beyond the dissolution of a country's membership in the EU. EU and NATO memberships seem to be designed to enhance freedom and flexibility but end up as one-way streets, or maybe an Autobahn with no off-ramp.
Now at the cost of hundreds of thousands of Slavic deaths between Ukraine and Russia ( neither one of which is any longer the USSR, and a war which the UN was designed to protect against) both Sweden and Finland have been fear-mongered into NATO.
In the case of Finland, this violates Finland's scrupulous insistence on neutrality vis-a-vis the much larger and more populous neighbor with which it shares a long and ( by some estimates ) ultimately indefensible border. This increased perimeter of the combined NATO countries also creates increased potential for unintended border incursions that can be magnified into nuclear war, wihj the combination of excessive numbers of companies in treaties of alliance and premature deployment of military forces setting the stage for a cascading conflagration reminiscent of World War I ( the origins of which academics were still debating with revisionist histories at the century mark anniversary of both the start and the end of the world's first industrial warfare). It's worth noting that nobody is alive to remember participating in THAT history.
Unfortunately, the zeitgeist that promotes porous National borders and disparages national sovereignty is the real, albeit inchoate, existential threat to the various peoples of nations throughout the Eurasian continent, as the World Health Organization (WHO) marches on -- with its consensus building that erases national sovereignty and allows a single bureaucratic figure to come up with any excuse for declaring a GLOBAL Public Health Emergency, imposing arbitrary one-size-fits-all solutions via mandates which violate individual human rights on every country's populations.
Individual government leaders are exempted from responsibility and awarded plausible deniability under this arrangement drawing the world closer to universal serfdom, peonage, and slavery -- now that the tools of 24/7 optical and digital electronic surveillance can be combined with the deprivations which were experienced during the years of the covid-19 pandemic -- and which featured voluntary acquiescence to the destruction of individually owned businesses,... to self imprisonment,.
to loss of personal mobility,... to the withholding of inexpensive, efficacious
Previously approved MEDICINE which had formerly been used with favorable safety profiles billions of times throughout the world, and in some cases to the withholding of medical treatment and the right to comfort loved ones who were dying.
THIS surrender of national autonomy in sovereignty is what NATO expansion and EU expansion is distracting all of the diplomatic corps --as well as the armchair diplomats & political philosophers -- from contending with.
You can pretend that supranational bodies are the answer to global neutrality in the Pursuit Of Peace, but ask yourselves what the United Nations has done to maintain peace since the end of the Second World War, with the exception of the De- Militarized Zone cutting through the Korean peninsula. That's ever fragike peace may constitute a better testament to the innate attractions of armistice, truce, & ceasefire than to global government-- but it only stopped what amounts to a civil war in an Asian peninsula country surrounded by ocean with only one international border.
The Narrative being sold how about the unification of Europe translating into Global Peace should not be of much comfort to the rest of the world's countries. Neither Germany nor Italy were demonstrating expansionist threats on the world stage until a couple of generations after they independently achieved political unification. The current generation will blame "nationalism" -- even as they continue to blame the previous land empires that subsumed the territories and governance of ethnic/ religious nation-states, and the maritime trading empires that subjugated successful cultures with thousands of years of history.
The current vector towards single points of control begs the question "How can there be a Monaco, a San Marino, a Vatican City, a Luxembourg, an Ecuador, a Iceland, a Lithuanian -- in a world of superpower hegemony. Seems like the last big war involving a South American country concerned the Falkland Islands and the British Navy.
The main achievement of Western Powers defending NATO agreements husband to demonstrate that NATO itself meditates against neutrality wiping out neutral buffer zones and destabilizing the economic integration of the the largest element of the former Soviet Union, Russia, into greater Europe and driving that country into the arms of the other massive totalitarian occupant of the Eurasian continent, China.
Switzerland hasn't done the world any favors hosting the self-righteous players of the self-appointed World Economic Forum in Davos every year.
There's a word for when businesses and governments --States and corporations -- merge their common interests, and that word is fascism. And the perils are not erased when fascist totalitarian forces outsource regional, national, and local government to its supposed historic ideological opponent: socialism. The promise of all this Unity is unlikely to be fulfilled when the mechanism is coercive, "the tyranny of the majority."
Tyranny, after all, can never be carried out by a single individual despotic ruler or demagogue. It always requires the cooperation of a dominating hierarchy of supporters controlling those who would be reluctant to comply. It is said that some British royalty slept with one eye open for fear of assassination. Yet even in dynasties throughout Europe and in Asia, society would organize itself to protect and maintain young children has the titular head of a monarchy.
I am positing here that it is not the structure or the ideology of governments that maintain neutrality and peace, it is the will of those participating in government and consenting to be governed which determines whether the outcomes be peaceful prosperity or deadly economic and social destruction.
The existential threat is not NATO or the EU or the hegemony of a particular regional power but the insistence upon a given political solution and governance.
Wow.
Yes, we all remember how it started as a European Economic Union, and turnwd into Autocracy now
Sweden had this interoperability thing way back, maybe twenty years back. The airplanes got NATO standard fuel equipment and later the radio systems included parts that could communicate with NATO radios. So the NATO membership was only the last act in the show. Swedish airplanes were part of the military operation in Libya. The Swedish arms industry will be able to sell arms like airplanes so it also about money.
This is not a case where Switzerland is being duped into joining NATO. This is a masks off moment where their control of the well-oiled global war machine has become so strong that they no longer fear any resistance.
I listened to Jacques Baud, a hero in the independent media, talking about the role of the Swiss and their neutrality. He received strong praise. I had a flashback moment to Bill Maher having on John Brennan as a guest. Jacques talked openly about the OSS, MI5 and the Dulles Bros setting up shop in Bern during WW2, and having to deal with strong German sentiments. What he didn't say was that they moved their to better cooperate with the well-oiled German war machine as they marched on Russia. There is a reason that all was quiet on the Western Front from 1941 to 1943. And the goal of the "Greatest Generation" was not to defeat an already defeated army, but to rescue the "best" of the worst before the Russians really kicked the Collective Wests ass.
It's no surprise that the UN, NATO and all the international organizations have a very Teutonic flavor, and have bases in Switzerland. Everything I ever heard about WW2 was a lie. I grew up thinking Korea was a massive defeat for the West. But Switzerland knew that they Gazafied N Korea. Just look at the obituary for George Blake in the RTS.
Am I a conspiracy nut? Yes, if you define a conspiracy as being the truth that hurts the powerful.
Remember Crypto AG? No accident that it was the CIA, German Intelligence that were involved. But as soon as Swiss Intelligence was also incriminated, it was shut down. End of story.
Why am I ranting on a You Tube video about this? Because they beat me down after my 25 years of fighting for Windyday Concept. They saw the strength of using renewables to make a societal transformation, so they fought it with their powerful propaganda network. It worked. We are going into Peak Oil with no alternative.
They "win". We lose.
I'm done ranting.
Switzerland has the powerful tool of the referendum, which is usually an important corretive force. Neutrality is most precious to all Swiss.
Masseneinwanderungsinitiative....they just give a shit!
Yes. But even if the upcoming referendum fails, it still does not mean we are going to join NATO. The upcoming referendum is merely pointing agianst joining sanctions.
Ask Iran about "Interoperability". No Spare Part for Jet Fighters against Iraq in the 1980. Did a Million Die in WW1 Style Human Wave Attacks.
Heading for the iceberg >> with a hovercraft . . just beach on top of it and go start camping .
I was wondering why Switzerland in such conditions doesn't directly also join EU? so will at least have some benefits from it such as lower prices, cheaper import etc.? In current situation Switzerland cannot longer afford to be neutral due to high EU pressure and only gets the disadvantages of this EU partnership!
Fuck youtube's censorship
I was looking forward to this Part 2! Thank you Pascal and Alberto. I did not know about Italian speakers of Switzerland! Incrementalism really works to get anything lodged in a society. The mass media talk the people through to the next stage and the stage after that. Subliminally reassure! Thanks this was an interesting video.
its about 60% german 30% french 10% italian and trace amounts of raeto romansh
In fact the people are free to chose if they want to follow mass media trends.
Saying that belonging to NATO makes you a satellite of the US Empire is, in a word, stupid. The US itself is getting tired of NATO, as it has to pay for the core defence of a bunch of other countries. Most of Eastern Europe essentially forced its way into NATO because, big surprise, they are worried about their security from the last nation to invade them, Russia. May I remind you it is a mutual defence treaty. If America goes on a military adventure, like it did in Iraq, other NATO countries, like Canada, can tell them no.
Pascal, can you please suggest a book or articles to read on the roles the Swiss played during the colonial era? Thanks.
Could this be about your banks more than military? Eu & WEF want to know where money is going & how to cut it off if it offends their politics
Well y'all had to deal with elephants
I find what you argue against unconvincing too
When NATO annexes Sweden, Sweden's loss of sovereignty and independence is treated as cause for celebration. When Crimea reunites with Russia, the reunion is cast as "annexation".
No one sees the irony.
In my opinion, the matter is too serious to make dirty jokes like you do here.
Crimeans were allowed to vote about it, Swedes and Finns were not.
@@nicolasjuandecardenas7921 And in Crimea's case, it really was a reunion, backed by around 80 to 90 percent of the population and driven by fear of an attack. In Sweden's case, it was not a reunion, there was no referendum, people did not support it, and there was no danger of an attack.
@@mark_2Indeed 💯
Finns were never allowed to vote. Now Finland is an illegal state, a US vassal.
Doesn't Switzerland have direct democracy?
Thank you
the f-35 has a 24/7 satellite data connection with lockheed martin "for performance analytics!". It guarantees that the swiss airforce will remain fully informed/informing and neutrally wehrhaft.
The F35 is a logistics nightmare.
Interesting . It sounds very much like what happened in Sweden .
What if all countries joined NATO. good idea ?
Why not, if the current member states would allow them in. I doubt this would be the case. Especially in my opinion such kind of NATO could be "the better UN".
NATO's purpose, according to Lord Ismay, first secretary-general of NATO, quoted in Joseph Nye's The Paradox of American Power, 2002, was to "keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down." Peace? -- not mentioned.
Pax Pentagonia uber a££€$.
The only noble way is stop the indepentant Swiss to side line the EU false base plans, and be open to their old economical partners, the Asian nations. The US 2024 election with a new Green Party will open for more coop, with the progressive European concern with the global warming vital issues.
EUSSR captured Switzerland without firing a shot. Dark times.
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Who are we kidding? Switzerland has never been neutral! They are just saying the quite part aloud now.
It was international accepted that Switzerland was neutral.
How you personaly feel about this is in this case not relevant.
@@hallovelo2478 Switzerland single-handedly institutionalized taking the Jewish wealth during WWII and subsequently denying the rightful owners of their claim to that wealth. That precedence continues to this date in many disguises. Switzerland ain't never been neutral, and it ain't never gonna be.
The indefinite left
Who gave the EU, a club, any right to have a so-called parliament (founded in 1958 - a parliament is a legislative body of government of a country, not a club), or make any kinds of laws granting itself legislative power (a legislature is a deliberative assembly with the legal authority to make laws for a political entity such as a country, nation or city)?
In 1996 Switzerland joined NATO's Partnership for Peace Program (a deceitful program as was revealed later, especially with the illegal NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia). NATO/EU wants neutrality to transform to 'cooperation' or what they call 'interoperability', with NATO only as 'cooperation' partner. This is how America continues to try to usurp, or annex if you will, power. (Military peacekeeping abroad means foreign deployment.) Switzerland is being made ready to join NATO, exactly what happened to Sweden and Finland.
At 24:45: This reminds me of the way that Switzerland participated in European colonialism without having a single colony...but wherever there was a European colonizer he always had a couple of Swiss who were there as well. ~ Pascal Lottaz
§ 115 of the Norwegian Constitution (formerly § 93) provides provisions for the large majority required in the Storting to approve the conclusion of international treaties that involve the relinquishment of constituted competence (such as legislative, executive or judicial competence in Norway). The provision was included in the Constitution in 1962 and was then described as the most important constitutional amendment since 1814, and was first used in connection with the EEA agreement (the Association Agreement) in 1992.
Instead of the word authority the word competence is used to describe legislative, executive or judicial authority. In legal parlance, competence means the area of authority an organization or person has to make decisions. The provision of the Norwegian Constitution was moved from § 93 to § 115 in 2014, when the CIA/US/EU instigated the illegal coup in Ukraine.
Switzerland is not "ready to join NATO" similar to Sweden or Finland, because there is no immediate threat of a Russian aggression against Switzerland.
Lets be honest here. The Swiss constitution from 1798 looks nothing like the constitution, we ratified with France and Austria in 1815. In those 17 years. it made a turn for 180°. The industrial Revolution made us traders and weavers, because we profited off the silk road trade with Italy.. And from then on, we started to become greedy and rich through "affiliation". (Nepotism) What never changed though, is a massive distrust among ourselves. Which also made us very dishonest and secretive.(We do speak 4 languages, and have at least 3 affiliations to Germany/austria, France and Italy, after the Rhaetian were beaten by the Alemannics). We learned Banking through the "Austrian school". Which actually is Venetian, and basically is double-Bookkeeping. "Anton Fugger" had shown us, how Banking could make or break Kings. And we were ruled by the catholic church. Our military contingent with them has never been questioned.
Swiss Mercenaries were sought for, because they had no qualms, and followed orders. From 1815- 1848, The Reformation-movement began to get a hold of the german-speaking part of Switzerland, which rebelled against the catholic Majority. Some declarations later, a few regions stayed "Reformed", and Others Catholic, (call it animosity, without violence).
Divided non the less.
Back on Topic: THIS was exactly, what the 1798 constitution asked for. A Unified Switzerland state. Without the "Federal Pick&Peck" Switzerland is trapped in, since 1815.(you could call it Reps/Dems, dependant on who pays more). Disclaimer: SPECULATION: That contrast was so stark, It inspired Karl Marx to write 5 books about a fair-trade Capitalism, that could be possible, if the Feudal/corrupt aspect was taken out of it. (Something, No one achieved so far). Instead, we went from Real-goods trading to Stock market gambling.
Our "Neutrality" is the laughing stock of Europe.
Just look at the facts of WW2. We featured a fully German Airforce, stashed all the stolen Nazi money with help of Liechtenstein, made "Rat lines" via Vatican possible, and basically re-finance USA, whenever they ask us to. We also helped USA to Spy on foreign countries (friend and foe) via CIA, German BND, and Crypto AG. For the better part of half a century.
Fact is: Switzerland LOVES STANDARDISATIONS, be it Psychologically, ISO-Standards, or otherwise Quantitative terminology. The only thing they never came up with, is a Standard for "Truth". "Convenience" forbids it.
Maybe. But the actual constitution is dated 1848.
@10:00 you can always trade. It does not matter what tariffs the EU slap on Switzerland, provided the Swiss government still issues it's own currency (aka. tax credit). Talk to Warren Mosler, I beg you. The EU can ask Switzerland to pay as high a frickin' price as they care for the clocks and cheese. You should not give a damn. Just sell at a lower price so the foreign buyers will take the goods, the exports are in any case your real cost, you only export them to offset forex adjustments so you can get imports without pass through inflation.
But lowering their price means your exporters go out of business, so the Swiss government simply makes the appropriate adjustment to offset the tariff. If you still think "gold is money" you will fail to understand all this, and will not realize the Swiss problem is domestic policy adjustment, not unfair tariffs. _F the tariffs_ is what you need to say, and knowing it has domestic redistribution consequences that the Swiss currency sovereign can always make the appropriate adjustments for. It is not quant rocket science.
If the EU "go nuclear" on trade by making trade with Switzerland illegal, well... masks off the fascist EU (or is extreme neoliberalism indistinguishable from fascism?), but then in any case that is a completely different story, in which case the Swiss should trade with nations that appreciate your exports, who like paying more for less cheese protein density.
My bad, I forgot to write that your imports are the more critical. But it is the same story. So if the EU make you pay more for imports using tariffs, then you just pay that higher price, no friggin' problem. The issue is again *_domestic_* redistribution, so the Swiss government simply declares they understand the anti-competitive policy of the EU and compensate your importers. This way your domestic prices remain unchanged, zero pass-through inflation. A single currency sovereign never worries about their money, if they do, they do not understand their monetary system. They only need to worry about _real resource_ availability.
Seriously Pascal my dude, middle fingers need to be shown the EU. If I were a Frenchy I'd be so jealous of Switzerland's continued separation from the EU.
It sounds like you are surprised to discover that the promise of safety overrides the desire for sovereignty.
Safety with NATO? That was a good joke.😂
UK, France and Germany have all a very good reputation for being the most peacefull countries.
@@hallovelo2478 Young man, you do not speak for Swiss Baby Boomers who have financial means to make such decisions.
@@BigLebowski65 Interessting that you know how old i am and how my financial means are.
What has to join NATO to do with financial means?
You think your life will be more safe when you make yourself a target?
Now you want to destroy what my fathers build for us?
The baby boomers were just lucky to be borne at the right time to have the most easy life ever.
This is also the reason why everything falls apart now, the arrogance and stupidity of people who had a way to easy life.
Make decisions out of fear was always a very smart idea.🎈
When Russia creates states (for example) Switzerland, Israel, Bulgaria, then they become enemies of Russia. When resolving the Ukrainian issue, the Russian Federation must take this experience into account.
The sad thing is that Swiss people have no clue that Switzerland only exist because of Russia.
It's a shame!
What is "the Ukrainian issue" ??
And Russa hasn't created Israel to be correct. Bulgaria, could be, but with Switzerland, you should probably explain a bit better.
And maybe you also want to explain in what Bulgaria is an enemy of Russia?
@@beatreuteler I’m not a historian to explain, this is just my knowledge. The Ukrainian question is how the war will end territorially.
@@beatreutelerThe Russian Zar was the key to the existence of Switzerland, neutral and armed.
Study the literatur if it's worth your time.
@@hallovelo2478 Yes, but other nations needed to nodd this through. Russia came up with the idea but didn't have the power to simply do it unless they had some allies in the congress. So saying Russia did it is a wrong perception of what happened in my opinion.
When Sweden entered NATO I was actually spontaneously quite optimistic that they might bring light into the darkness - and if Switzerland too goes in - with another small Spotlight these 2 Spotlights might be able to provide some Illumination to the cockroach/rat- business that is always going on there . I like it actually . it's called transparency/glasnost . Natural law says : cockroaches + rats can.not.live.in.the.light.
There is no way for Switzerland to become a member.
Welcome to squeaky-voiced Pascal's 'Domain of Disloyalty'.
Switzerland has every right to choose which side it's on. 🇨🇭
yeah , eventual vassal state😢
@@junkycable3 Again: We can chose. If we chose vassal state, it's our own fault.
Betray my ancesters sweat and blood for our corrupt coverment. It's a shame!
The people of the Americas (most of whom are Christians), including the USA, have been divided and ruled over by outsiders for centuries.
Because it is easier to divide people based on personal differences, than it is to unite them, based on what they have in common.
Strategically ambiguous rulers make use of this, for own advantages. In the era of European Imperialism, first Spain and Portugal entered the Americas, employing the divide and rule technique of top-down power, then after 1900 as European colonial powers' influence decreased, the role of divider was simply taken over by Washington DC (the entire world was the playground after around 1900).
*Today, it is the globalists who employ imperialist tools to play divide and rule games on their neighbors.*
Now the intention is simply to avoid unity in the Americas, in order to rule over the dissent which is classical divide and rule.
Today, their leaders are too weak to unite.
Endless wars on anything and everything from "drugs" to "terror", constant dissent.
Insert levers of lies, mistrust...
Create favorites: favoritism...
Point the finger, everywhere else...
Divide and Rule.
Oldest trick in the book...
In February 1948, George F. Kennan's Policy Planning Staff said: "[W]e have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. ... Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity." [end of]
And _that_ is what they did.
America's friends and self-proclaimed default rivals in Europe are still being burnt to ensure this disparity continues.
*Set up European and Eurasian nations (including the MENA region) against each other.*
It is how divide and rule is implemented.
The imperialist playbook of Great Britain and the USA for more than 100 years. Read Halford Mackinder (Pivot of History, 1904) and Zbigniew Brzezinski (Grand Chessboard, 1997) regarding Eurasia. Who wields the POWER? Who has had (in all historical cases in the ME/Levant) the GEOGRAPHICAL ADVANTAGE of being able to reach all the other little buck catchers (tools, and other Roman-era style instruments of POWER), but could not be reached itself, because of a geographical-, technological-, organizational-, military-, strategic-, political advantage at any given point of a historical timeline?
*War is a great "divider."* It goes straight through the heads of millions and billions of people from the very top tiers, right down to the individual level. War divides alignments and alliances, goes straight through organizations, divides political parties, tears through peace movements and other families of humanity, and finally at the very bottom tier, goes straight through individual hearts and minds as individuals struggle with _themselves._
"Most of the great problems we face are caused by politicians creating solutions to problems they created in the first place." - Walter E. Williams
That is what empires have always done.
Create the *default rival/enemy.*
It is usually the power most likely to succeed which is determined as the *default rival/enemy.*
Notice how, as soon as a rival starts mass-producing products high up in the value chain of capitalism, and starts vying for markets, and becomes successful, it *immediately* becomes the systemic rival, and is then geopolitically encircled by the greater empire. It happened around 1900, as Germany started building high-value products, and it happened around 2000, as China started moving away from building cheap toys and labor intensive kitchen appliances...
The games start on the home turf. The first victims are their own people.
I was shocked when I learned of this..thank you for discussing it. The question is will the people of Switzerland allow this? Perhaps, like Sweden, the people will have no say..the world has gone mad
We have a say.
Politicians are mad, not ordinary people. As always.
@@heimomoilanen9654 agreed..we, the people, need to choose our leaders wisely..and hold our politicians to answer
@@heimomoilanen9654 At least for Switzerland, when I look at our top Politicians, prior to election, during the term and especially after retirement, these people are disappointingly ordinary at times.
After Sweden Finland and Switzerland entered , everything is complete . . now . . we just have to exchange the NATO acronym with a ''''EuroSecurityAcronym''''
They finish Hitlers lebensraum plans.
That would be good, if we stopped getting orders from USA or Israel.
The next proxy for US imerialists
Let’s have it that countries THEMSELVES wanted it. One can always say ‘no’.
That's complete bullshit. They spent billions on cognitive warfare and pro NATO anti russia scare propaganda.
On top of that, current members can say NO. Examples: Turkey / Hungary for quite a while against Sweden becoming a member.
@@beatreuteler ..???
Too painfully slow to watch
Pauvre Europe, pauvre Suisse...
I wonder if this nay-toe coercion somehow ties in with the Credit Suisse 'scandal'. Something to the effect of 'sure, we'll bail you out with our fake green paper, but first, we want you to do us a favour.' And then, arm-twisting ensues. After all, us/uk had fingers in every CS shock since 2020.
If CS managers would have done the job right, there wouldn't have to be any "Credit Suisse scandal".
It reminds me a period when Italian, Hungarian and Romanians got responsibilities for sections of the Eastern front, but inter-operability was not so great and Soviets used that to encirle a huge German army near Stalingrad. Now, of course, we have an alliance for freedom and all kinds of goodness in Europe, but what war theaters should the Swiss prepare for during joint operations? Arctic, boreal forests, steppe, Sahara, rain forest?
In fact, mountains.
@27:22 Good luck in your fight against this cunning NATO. The Swiss will have to be even MORE cunning than NATO!
Ridiculous to call this a fight "against". Imagine NATO shiver because of this. LOL
@@beatreuteler A "fight" does NOT have to be using firearms, F35, etc. A fight can be with words. A fight can be with strategies/tactics. A fight can be about galvanizing public opinion.
@@chew5461 Of course. But if this here should be considered af fight against NATO with words in that sense, that for me would have quite a ridicolous touch and feel. Of course you always find some strange people falling to such propaganda. But I would consider the effect closing in on zero. For example to keep Switzerland away from NATO, such words are totally unnecessary. In my opinion the Swiss people will always vote "NO", so there is close to no risk this might happen, with or without such strange "fight".
Switzerland needs the independence to harbour all the criminal money.
Delaware has take over this business for many years allready.
The SWIFT system does allow the US to see where all the money goes.
You are 20 years behind.
@@hallovelo2478 And the US is very strict concerning the legality of the origin of the money, as we all know.
@@beatreuteler Just a few years ago they wanted to stop the shengen borders, but mantain the free flow of capital with the EU. They made a referedum to keep selling weapons. So forgive me if i don't by that "independence" carp.
@@beatreuteler Google is your friend. Try it.
Extrapolating current events, European NATO countries will pass all heavy weapons to Ukraine, eventually making Russian takeover possible. Then there will be a dire need to have a secure retreat to the Alpine fortress that currently is unfortunately neutral. In this crazy, but increasingly plausible scenario, NATO badly needs Austria and Switzerland to join. Of course, Portugal could be used to facilitate a retreat across the ocean, like in Silmarion of Tolkien.
Watching and playing too many games?
There is an aspect of these trends that is never discussed in its proper context. The move to the right or perhaps, the move from civic nationalism to this weird American generic ethno-nationalist "Christian identity" model is ubiquitous. Most of it is organised around Islamophobia and anti immigration. The irony is that this brand of "nationalism" also entails succumbing to the globalised "American" neoliberal psyche embodied in superstructures like the European Union. Countries like Sweden or Finland are now NATO proxies the more rightwing they become. Switzerland is moving in the same coordinated direction. The interesting thing is that the old European "winged politics" is almost unrecognisable in the context of this generic Americanised technocratic packaged politics. It is indeed ironic that many describe this Americanisation process as "European values".
In my humble opinion you are wrong from the start. I don't know why but since about 10 years the ones in Switzerland who are opposing the US and all that US does and in the same time are critical against a move of Switzerland closer to NATO are the right wing people. And in the same time the right wing ones are the ones who most strongly oppose Switzerland joining sanctions against countries like Russia, Iran and the like.
Interesting . It sounds very much like what happened in Sweden .