Subaru Outback review and buyer's guide | Auto Expert John Cadogan

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  • čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
  • New Subaru Outback - the sixth generation of what began as a mad experiment with the Liberty wagon in 1994 - I’m at the end of a week in the poverty pack 2021 Outback, and about to swap to the high-spec Outback Touring. What’s it really like, and is it a contender for you? Here’s my initial assessment.
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    So, I’m being facetious referring to this car as ‘poverty’ in any way. It’s simply a piece of insider slang - the entry-level model always called the ‘poverty pack’. This is anything but.
    Poverty Outback gets the big centre screen (11.6 inches - portrait orientation, too - bucking that ‘landscape’ trend). Plus, virtually all the safety systems are standard - which, admittedly, are a bit intrusive at times. Nature of the beast.
    Poverty Outback is, essentially, fully-loaded on safety - including driver monitoring and autonomous emergency steering. This is one area where Outback really delivers across the range.
    LED lighting too - like, LED headlamps, turn signals and daytime running lights, even in ‘poverty class’. Respect to Subaru for packing all that in, for the basic price, and remaining competitive.
    2000 kilos of braked towing capacity, CVT’s got manual mode. Plus, 213mm of ground clearance, so Outback has some legitimate off-road ability.
    Senior executive Subaru dudes say the engine is 90 per cent new - but I’m on the fence about this engine. Like, it’s still 2.5 litres and atmo, and a boxer, and I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate for 90 per cent of Outback owners.
    It’s refined, but mediocre … adequate - meaning it’s exactly what a lot of people need/want. Speaking personally, however, I’m not one of those people. I’ll take ‘more’. I did take more. I’ve owned two WRXs and a Forester XT: all awesome, trouble-free cars.
    It is, therefore, a deadset shame in my view that they do not make the 2.4 turbo petrol engine available here, as it is in ‘Murica. That’s a real step backwards - they dropped the 3.6, and didn’t replace it with anything punchy or otherwise inspirational.
    On balance, I’d suggest Outback is a net evolution for Subaru - long awaited, but a proper step forward, in most respects. Subaru does have its bolted on fans. They don’t shop around. The Symmetrical AWD and the awesome customer care - it certainly builds loyalty.
    Outback has a lot of appeal - especially if you are in Club Conservative. Nothing wrong with that.
    But the passion deficit is a thing. It kills brands. Just look at Honda and Nissan - both having near-death experiences today. I think some other brands - like Hyundai and Kia - are taking the fight to Subaru, and their incremental evolution is proceeding at a faster rate than Subaru’s.
    You know that expression: ‘Be the change you wish to see in the world’? I think Subaru needs to channel its inner product planning Ghandi, and reverse the tide on passion - if only to protect the terrain it has fought so hard to occupy today.
    Outback is a really good SUV. The value proposition is solid. And the company is awesome at customer care. And I don’t say that about every vehicle, as you know. In fact, Outback is the right SUV for a great many people … it’s just unfortunately not quite as good as it otherwise might have been.
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  • @charlie.aka.gillette
    @charlie.aka.gillette Před 3 lety +24

    As you drive along Dingo Piss Ck, you will appreciate the CD player when Spotify stops as your phone loses reception.

    • @Charlie-vl9op
      @Charlie-vl9op Před 3 lety

      You can play spotify offline aslong as you download the music and a member

    • @destroyerarmor2846
      @destroyerarmor2846 Před 2 lety +1

      Get a flash drive

    • @nordic5490
      @nordic5490 Před 2 lety

      Yup, relying on the cloud or on streaming services is for mugs. Fyi, the free Spotify has such terrible audio quality - it makes my ears bleed - I won't listen to such highly compressed and low data rate music.

    • @sgtkabukiman9411
      @sgtkabukiman9411 Před 2 lety

      Get an Android phone and chuck an SD card in it. S10's come in 512GB built in and take a 512GB SD card. That's over half a Terabyte of storage.

  • @joeyl.2081
    @joeyl.2081 Před 3 lety +7

    The best thing about the new Outback is the 90 second ad that starts with the kid catching the keys to the brumby

    • @timmarks8941
      @timmarks8941 Před 3 lety +1

      Yep

    • @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
      @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars Před 3 lety +2

      @@timmarks8941 You need to actually take Outback for a test drive. Honestly, I've owned previous-gen Outback for nearly three years and the new one is substantially better, in almost every way. The 7 per cent power increase is good and it's more responsive thanks to direct injection, and it's ridiculously comfy over long trips.
      The roof rails are so bloody handy.

    • @joeyl.2081
      @joeyl.2081 Před 3 lety

      But who is the prospective buyer for the Outback given there's no diesel and no turbo engine options? It would be a massive Subaru own goal if the only people considering the Outback would have otherwise bought a Forester.

  • @saabaton169
    @saabaton169 Před 3 lety +35

    I'd have to agree with a CD player being a bit outdated, however Spotify don't have the Jimi Hendrix Albert Hall experience playlist which i have on a CD, so take that John, Subaru and Lexus CD players for the win, epic Hendrix riff I think you'd agree 😎

    • @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
      @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars Před 3 lety +7

      There is something special about putting a CD in and just letting it play. Linkin Park Hybrid Theory, Back in Black, Daryl Braithwaite Lemon Tree...

    • @saabaton169
      @saabaton169 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars plus how would you enjoy the audiobook version of Dick Head Pro

  • @andyharrison5238
    @andyharrison5238 Před 3 lety +13

    Put down a deposit on one of these today after miraculously finding a dealer with stock. Just went for the poverty pack and I'm rapt with the decision, it's a lot of car for the money! If I could sum up the engine in one word it would be "adequate" but the rest of the car was good enough to convince me

    • @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
      @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars Před 3 lety +4

      Smart choice. It's such a good vehicle overall.

    • @1800dontcare
      @1800dontcare Před 2 lety +1

      Just put down a deposit on one ourselves and the base model is more than enough the other features just weren’t worth the extra cost in my opinion and now just have to wait for it to be built and delivered which may be not till next year :’( I shall wait

    • @andyharrison5238
      @andyharrison5238 Před 2 lety

      @@1800dontcare Good decision, I'm now up to 7k on the odometer and it's been fantastic. Yours will be worth the wait!

    • @M.-.D
      @M.-.D Před 2 lety

      @@andyharrison5238 thanks so much for coming back and giving an update on your experience.
      Just scored one on the boat which was a canceled order. Looking forward to it. Got the Touring but the car at any level looks fantastic.

  • @David.Gaugamela
    @David.Gaugamela Před 2 měsíci +1

    It is now 2024 and they offer a 2.4-Liter, 4-cylinder, Turbo charged engine in the Outback. It is amazing. The quick acceleration is phenomenal, getting on the highway or when you need to pass another vehicle. Subaru can’t decide whether this is a family station wagon or a high performance vehicle. This is the best vehicle I have owned.

  • @ccupp2
    @ccupp2 Před 3 lety +48

    My 2016 Outback's Eyesight system saved me from a bad wreck when a woman ran a traffic light. I didn't even know it was happening. Suddenly my car was stopped about 3 feet from the drivers side door of her Toyota Camry. The woman looked terrified with my Outback mere feet from t-boning her car. It happened so quickly that I was confused as to what had just happened. That day the Eyesight sure made a believer out of me.

    • @offroadingfoz
      @offroadingfoz Před 3 lety +5

      Lucky no one was behind you too close. 🙈

    • @jintarokensei3308
      @jintarokensei3308 Před 3 lety

      Just out of curiosity, where were you looking at that you didn't see a car in front of you?

    • @daveamies5031
      @daveamies5031 Před 3 lety +4

      Clearly the other 2 who replied before me didn't read the first 2 sentences of your comment, I love it when a safety feature saves you from a really bad day or worse, I bet that day you were really happy with your purchase 👍🏼

    • @offroadingfoz
      @offroadingfoz Před 3 lety

      @@daveamies5031 looks like you don’t understand how rear ends happen when people for example brakes at the first sight of an amber light. But ok, I didn’t read the first two sentences.

    • @daveamies5031
      @daveamies5031 Před 3 lety +1

      @@offroadingfoz I do understand how rear ends happen, but nothing in the OP comment indicates he would have had a rear end, so I still fail to see the relevance of people picking on him for not paying attention and almost having one?

  • @robinm2699
    @robinm2699 Před 3 lety +1

    John Cadogan I had so much fun listening to you I had to listen again - brilliant!

  • @MrWilliam.Stewart
    @MrWilliam.Stewart Před 3 lety +36

    A Subaru without a turbo, is like a wee without a fart, or a dance without music.

    • @bradleydavies4781
      @bradleydavies4781 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes no six cylinder or diesel either.

    • @aerienix
      @aerienix Před 3 lety +4

      There’s some elegance in the examples you used

    • @Hallowsaw
      @Hallowsaw Před 3 lety +5

      Honestly i was trying to pass on a back road and it took like 10 seconds to pass someone going 50 mph and i was going full throttle. The 2.5 is fking pathetic

    • @nordic5490
      @nordic5490 Před 2 lety

      A tug without a happy ending ?

    • @jism1125
      @jism1125 Před rokem

      Thought a poo without a wee was more accurate

  • @chrisact9601
    @chrisact9601 Před 3 lety +17

    Gotta agree with you John. I have a 2019 Outback 3.6R and there's no way I'd "upgrade" to the new atmo 4 cyl model. The 3.6R isn't exactly what I'd call "sporty" but having the extra oomph is certainly a lot more fun than not. It's been a bloody good car thus far too.

    • @MrBill461
      @MrBill461 Před 3 lety +2

      I too have a 3.6R and while it is not tyre shredding, it makes overtaking a breeze. Sports+ mode around town is fun, although a tad harsh on the upshifts (as far as a CVT upshifts.......) for me. A damn good car.

    • @huddleen
      @huddleen Před 3 lety +2

      I’ve got the 2.4T in my Ascent (US Market) and it rocks. Does suck down the gas if you like to drive it aggressively, but it is nice for those two lane passing maneuvers.
      I’ve also had the 2.5 in the Forester and it worked and was surprisingly zippy around town, but I would be more hesitant to go with that in the heavier Outback.

  • @v36nismo
    @v36nismo Před 3 lety +1

    I love how youtube put a mercedes gtr pro ad just before john's vid. Proudly announcing it was pcoty 2021. I like to think that John shudders randomly out of the blue everytime this happens.

  • @jaccheck5774
    @jaccheck5774 Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for your honest opinion John. I bought the Liberty based on your review back in 2016 and have loved it. It has been a great car and like you said back then - why are we all obsessed with the SUV? There are plenty of good alternatives out there.

    • @ytlurker220
      @ytlurker220 Před 3 lety

      This is much more like a wagon than any other SUVs. They're just easier to live with in ever way.

  • @leaveeye
    @leaveeye Před 2 lety

    Ive watched many of your reviews but this was my favorite - thank you sir

  • @samboelliott1
    @samboelliott1 Před 3 lety

    Hey John. Thanks for the video. Great timing too.
    By the way I was only just thinking about Nut Fest Friday and how much I miss it.
    Feel free to air you best nuts every now and then . We'd love that.

  • @deanrhodenizer938
    @deanrhodenizer938 Před 3 lety +4

    Greetings from Canada and great review IMHO. I realize your well being makes these videos possible but I do not like the embedded advertising that I have to work harder to bypass. Although, I somewhat appreciate your elaborate and colourful descriptions as to how the product may benefit me - an advertising concept that has disappeared with 10 second ads.

  • @SeeSawMacaw
    @SeeSawMacaw Před 3 lety +8

    Still use CD’s occasionally and love the long term reliability and simplicity aspects of normally aspirated. I don’t care for all these boosted out GDI’d 4 bangers. Keep the faith Subaru. Nice to have a choice still.

  • @herringchoker01
    @herringchoker01 Před 3 lety +2

    Enjoyed your review, John. I do hope Subaru Australia adds the XT turbo to the range soon. That makes a huge difference both to fun factor and towing capacity.

    • @lukehedstrom8009
      @lukehedstrom8009 Před 2 lety +1

      its confirmed now in Australia, so that will make this even better

  • @williamlongbottom5494
    @williamlongbottom5494 Před 3 lety

    Subaru is my favourite. Reliable sticks to the road in all conditions and never an issue with service people

  • @user-tz4nk5sk8b
    @user-tz4nk5sk8b Před 3 lety

    Having been a Toyota guy, I described what I wanted as a 4WD Celica station wagon - I needed a sports car with a big boot. THAT described what I wanted in a car for most weeks of the year, well, it's called a Subaru Outback and my first one was in 2000. About every three years my local dealership sold me another one and I must say they have looked after me very well in sales and service. The service manager, more than once, loaned me his car when mine needed to stay over night. 2009 saw my first diesel and I loved it for towing. 2015 was the next one because the 2009 just didn't want to the traded in. at the very end of 2017, John, your team found my next Outback, another manual diesel with a CD player. Except there was so much stuffing about that I missed out on the manual and ended up with a CVT. I'd already stripped all the accessories off the old car and fitted a standard Subaxtreme bull bar so I could keep the custom bar. I was committed to another Outback. This has been the most depressing car to drive, the cornering is downright dangerous and the transmission is SO depressing. The fuel bill around town went from 8.5 to 10.5L/100. I used to do 30,000km per year and this one is now 3y3m old and has not hit 70,000km. If Subaru GAVE me my eighth Outback for free I'd hesitate. I've had so much trouble with turbo pipes blowing off when towing a 1000kg camper that I carry a dedicated set of tools with an instruction sheet in case I'm not the one fixing it - AGAIN. Way too much tech, too much Nanny mode and None For the Driver would be a far more suitable slogan. Hello Toyota, I'll be back in June for my next car. John, once you stop with all the mindless dribble, the comment towards the end was spot on, Subaru has lost the plot about the car, what it was intended for and who is going to buy it. Oh, BTW, the audio quality of bluetooth or internet music compared to CD... yeah, nah, give me CD and it works when the car is out of phone range for calling the NRMA.

  • @Aussieglenn89
    @Aussieglenn89 Před 3 lety +1

    Great review mate!

  • @dws-art
    @dws-art Před 3 lety +2

    The new "Outback Sports" roof rack set up, enables carrying long sea kayaks etc, because the standard cross bars on the chunky fixed built in roof racks - can not be moved sufficiently away from each other.

  • @anthonykhalil70
    @anthonykhalil70 Před 3 lety +6

    John my wife has a 2017 touring wagon. We love. It's so much more comfortable that our 200 landcruiser. But I would ditch it today without a tear for the turbo if it was available. Like you said missed opportunity for Subaru.

  • @stendecstretcher5678
    @stendecstretcher5678 Před 3 lety +21

    I have a CD in my 98 Corolla. I listen to Ace of Base regularly.

  • @pierreblenderbuss9807

    Yup accurate review. We have a 2014 2.5 poverty which is . . . with 200k on the clock, still solid. Hasn't missed a beat. We recently got our SECOND one (we need two cars) via a salary packaging deal--the 2021 Touring. 100% agree with everything said; glad they introduced the WRX engine (if I have that right) afterwards as our next one will be that.

  • @jimz508
    @jimz508 Před 3 lety +12

    I have many CDs from times past .... yes I want a CD player :P

  • @Roger_Gadd
    @Roger_Gadd Před 3 lety +7

    I suspect the Subaru Outbacks in this review still do nought to 100 km/h in around ten seconds. The available acceleration is usually enough for overtaking, and from a standstill is faster than most drivers accelerate their vehicles.

  • @dariusmoller7204
    @dariusmoller7204 Před 3 lety +18

    Give us the turbo! Only reason I wouldn’t consider an Outback or a Forester is the lack of turbo options.

  • @niCk-do8bx
    @niCk-do8bx Před 3 lety +1

    Great Job John. Looks like a nice Subaru. not too bad for entry lvl.

  • @flhharley90
    @flhharley90 Před 2 lety

    I had a look at an outback to see how close it was to my touring Mazda 6 wagon, I love it, will be trading up to the tourer next year as will have to wait 6 months for it to come.

  • @leedaq7767
    @leedaq7767 Před 3 lety +10

    awesome, can we have your Subaru forester review?

  • @leonpmuyt
    @leonpmuyt Před 3 lety +2

    I like having the cd option in my 2016 Cerato hatch.

  • @DashCamSerbia
    @DashCamSerbia Před 3 lety +16

    John does love those Fleshlights. :p

    • @labourlawact7826
      @labourlawact7826 Před 3 lety +2

      You guys need to get real boyfriends.

    • @sandybutt9898
      @sandybutt9898 Před 3 lety +2

      @@pierrebuffiere5923 Did you take the plastic tab off the battery that is mandatory for battery products that are being shipped?

  • @MazandJazz
    @MazandJazz Před 3 lety

    Olight upvote here. Picked up a keychain one and a little one for the toolbox. Full beam can nearly cut through walls

  • @Brendan.Wheatley
    @Brendan.Wheatley Před 3 lety

    I would love to see Subaru hark back to their roots in producing a modern day Liberty RS wagon circa 94! I like to think they tried with the Levorg, but at the end of the day, they need to sell stock, hence the run of the mill products they pump out today to the very safety conscious I believe everything the salesperson tells me kind of person!
    I'm glad you said the word torch, in your promo at least once!
    My rant is over, thanks for sharing John!

    • @evans3304
      @evans3304 Před 2 lety

      I've got a 94 rs Liberty sedan twin turbo. This thing when running is whole lot of fun.

  • @jesserowlingsify
    @jesserowlingsify Před 3 lety +12

    Re CDs... I’m in my mid 20s and am a fan of cds. I have lots of cds that I can’t find on Spotify or anything. CD recordings are also better quality than streaming services generally, so combined with the better audio system and price tag I can see it appealing to certain people.

    • @Toddreneeh
      @Toddreneeh Před 3 lety +6

      Can't beat the sound of uncompressed audio. That's half the point of getting a CD, at least for me anyway.

    • @bruceparr1678
      @bruceparr1678 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Toddreneeh If you need a sound system when driving, the car is a boring piece of poop.

    • @Toddreneeh
      @Toddreneeh Před 3 lety

      @@bruceparr1678 Agree

    • @jesserowlingsify
      @jesserowlingsify Před 3 lety +3

      @@bruceparr1678 Long highway drives are boring in any car. A good soundtrack makes them go by quicker.

    • @johnphaceas7434
      @johnphaceas7434 Před 3 lety +1

      I've got CD players in both my cars (though I also have bluetooth in one). Recently also bought myself a proper Akai Cassette Deck from the 90s to plug into my Sony home stereo (turntable, tuner/amp and CD player) so now I can play everything from my past, including the suitcase of tapes I'd forgotten about in the shed. Personally, I still prefer the more organic sound of LPs when at home.

  • @MrDreamerboyX
    @MrDreamerboyX Před 3 lety +1

    Can you please do a video on used cars at different price ranges

  • @pilot1226
    @pilot1226 Před 3 lety +2

    I love my Outback XT here in ‘Murica. Waiting to see what the Toyota-Subie mashup will bring with ‘lectrics. It’s a damn shame they don’t offer the 3.6R or 2.4T over there still. Our Touring trims have ventilated seats as well, but none have those fancy side view cameras. I’m on my 4th Subaru now…

    • @BruceHoult
      @BruceHoult Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, I'm sticking with my 2008 Outback 2.5XT with 104000 km for the moment. It's got eyesight cruise control and lane departure and collision warning at that modern stuff (yes, in 2008 no typo). And 265 ponies. I actually like driving a CVT more than the 5 spd automatic, but I have a suspicion Subaru will change wholesale to the far more robust planetary gear based Toyota hybrid eCVT in the near future.

  • @Abandoned_Brane
    @Abandoned_Brane Před 3 lety +13

    General Motors has advanced safety features, too. It doesn't actually run for more than a few days at a time before breaking down and sitting in the shop for two weeks. Thereby almost eliminating any change of getting involved in a crash in it.

  • @esku157
    @esku157 Před 3 lety +4

    I picked up a spotless and well maintained 2017 Outback Premium for well under $30K. Dealer wants it badly but I just can't go another n.a. 2.5 with that uninspiring CVT and drop $55K plus for the touring. I already have leather, 2 memory heated seats, sunroof, 18's, satnav, adaptive cruise and integrated roof bars. 2.4t might have been enough but alas...

  • @electrosaurus
    @electrosaurus Před 3 lety +5

    Always owned Subaru's - my current H6 Outback is on the way out and I'm not even considering Subaru anymore. Depresses me no-end but between the CVT and the under-powered engine - I can't even consider it for my moderate towing needs.

  • @sheerluckholmes5468
    @sheerluckholmes5468 Před 3 lety +1

    Does this mean that the Outback recall of the other week is now over?

  • @kevinjolliffe2199
    @kevinjolliffe2199 Před 3 lety

    Hi John. Will you be doing a review on the 2020 and 2022 releasing in October Subaru BRZ TS.
    Çheers.

  • @orrinbelcher6593
    @orrinbelcher6593 Před 3 lety

    Nice video fun and informative

  • @Peter-jm7zt
    @Peter-jm7zt Před 3 lety +1

    Hi John, thanks for the entertainment and knowledge as always.
    I really like and enjoy Subaru. (But then again I like Old Land Rovers) .
    Maybe the fun of driving has been lost and It has all gone too serious.
    Remember the good old days of big V8's (68.. 289 fairmont) and chrome Bumper Bars.
    side issue ...Are we still paying import duty on cars even if we don't make them here anymore.
    all the best.

    • @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
      @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars Před 3 lety

      We only pay import duty on cars from non Trade Agreement nations like the US, UK and Europe. We don't pay it for Japanese, Thai or South Korean cars.

  • @mr.forster2939
    @mr.forster2939 Před 3 lety

    Hi John, no turbo made me look for something like the outback. Took a Skoda 200TSI Scout for a test drive as the Skoda dealer is in my town. Same price, heaps of power and better quality. The dealer told me they are getting 30% of sales from people trading in older model Outbacks Eg 3.6R.

  • @hbdrums337
    @hbdrums337 Před 2 lety

    I've always had a soft spot for a car hanging on to the station wagon idea. I lug drums round to gigs and use roof racks all the time for kayaks etc. and need to tow boats. SUVs and their high roof are a pain to load stuff up on there. the 7 seaters take valuable luggage room away. But you're right. There is whiff of feeling old and loosing the spark in life getting a sube. lol.

  • @justinwright6611
    @justinwright6611 Před 3 lety +5

    I’m thinking you could do a dedicated flashlight/torch channel.

    • @tonys8243
      @tonys8243 Před 3 lety

      Oh! ...no more "flashlight torcher " please..

    • @justinwright6611
      @justinwright6611 Před 3 lety

      “Flashlight Expert”

    • @HughRussell06
      @HughRussell06 Před 3 lety

      It could be called “Torch Expert John Cadogan”

    • @e425164
      @e425164 Před 3 lety

      he could even do fleshlights as well , you know a real good hands on review.

  • @josephrowe849
    @josephrowe849 Před 3 lety

    I always wanted an Outback. Hopefully, that'll be my next car.

  • @Kiwi_Dave
    @Kiwi_Dave Před 3 lety +3

    Turbo version suppose to be arriving in NZ later this year, expect the same for Aus. I'd only be interested in the Turbo version especially in a manual.

    • @ytlurker220
      @ytlurker220 Před 3 lety

      Where'd you hear this? Exciting news if true.

  • @camb8722
    @camb8722 Před 3 lety

    Evening John, are we going to get the Hyundai Santa Cruz Ute in straya?

  • @Seanype
    @Seanype Před 3 lety +3

    Hey John, why was the outgoing model service intervals 6 months but in New Zealand the exact same model was 12 months ? Like was Australian dealers just getting one up on us compared to our Nz cousins ?

    • @Nicholas.T
      @Nicholas.T Před 3 lety +1

      Yes Pickle, it’s called gouging!!

  • @Phantomthecat
    @Phantomthecat Před 3 lety +1

    Went and had a look at one of these today - the lack of engine options is about the only think that makes me think twice. I do like it more than the Sante Fe and Sorento though after driving both of those (They drove fine but I hated the interiors and that's what I'd be looking at most of the time). The Outback is heaps quieter inside the cab too.

    • @johnphaceas7434
      @johnphaceas7434 Před 3 lety +1

      We've got a 2014 Forester at home (2nd we've owned) which is a good honest toiler, perfectly comfortable, practical and reliable. But I hired a top-spec current model Outback for a recent country trip and it felt like a Bentley in comparison. Brilliant car.

  • @lobsterwhisperer7932
    @lobsterwhisperer7932 Před 3 lety

    Honest car reviews are near impossible to find on youtube..i dare you to search for crap car, you will not find one..but this dude is the real deal.

  • @derekharvey5257
    @derekharvey5257 Před 3 lety +1

    Ex-bolted on Subaru owner here. Only will be re-bolted if/when the 2.4T arrives. I’ve had a Gen5 2.5i Outback Premium (and a Gen4 diesel before that) and wouldn’t contemplate the 2.5 again - adequate when not loaded up, sluggish with an load aboard, and don’t even attempt towing anything. I’m so disappointed, I’ve been waiting ages for this car ever since it was launched almost 2 years ago in ‘Murica

  • @MerlinMan1579
    @MerlinMan1579 Před 3 lety +1

    I have owned a Gen 1 H6 since 2004 and it is an easy car to live with, not a squeak or fail to report.....it is not an exciting urban car, but get it onto rough rural dirt roads and it comes alive, especially in the wet. My version is slim too, so it squeezes into a shopping centre car park space easily. These new ones look nice, but there is no mongrel in the range and for me I really need a performance model to get me across the line this time. Totally agree with you John that this mediocrity will bite Subaru in the long term. The Subaru board really needs to spice up this awesome platform.

  • @KununurraJack
    @KununurraJack Před 3 lety

    I love you too, John. ❤️

  • @kelvino2370
    @kelvino2370 Před 3 lety +6

    Hehehehe John, you’ve wandered into my domain. The advantage of CD over “internet” or mp3 comes down to audio quality. Whereas you and I value the convenience more, audiophiles might prefer the bit rate, uncompressed, available on that silver platter. Love your work dude.

    • @BruceHoult
      @BruceHoult Před 3 lety +3

      You can put lossless encoded digital music onto your phone -- FLAC or Apple Lossless -- just fine. Even source it from your own CDs if you want. No need to carry them in the vehicle to be exposed to the hot summer sun -- rip them and keep them in a temperature controlled oxygen-free atmosphere as they deserve.

    • @nordic5490
      @nordic5490 Před 2 lety

      @@BruceHoult how do you connect you phone to the car ? Bluetooth? There is the problem. Yes, there is high rate bluetooth that is not bad (still worse than cds) by only the premium phones support it. Most most people will have a slightly worse, to terrible, audio experience connecting their phone via blutooth to their cars.
      Fyi, I use the highest end bluetooth device available to interface my tablet to my home audio and it sounds decent.
      Fyi 2, why would you recompress your CDs to 'lossless flac' (that term allways makes me laugh, as it clearly isnt lossless) when you can simply load a 600MB cd onto your phone ?

    • @BruceHoult
      @BruceHoult Před 2 lety

      @@nordic5490 yes FLAC is lossless. When you uncompress the file you get back bit for bit the exact same thing as is on the original CD. That's the whole point of it. Why would you use it? So you can put MORE CDs on your phone than uncompressed -- or leave more space for apps and photos etc.

  • @christanner8104
    @christanner8104 Před 2 měsíci

    How does the CVT reliability stand up to towing? Sorry if this may seem a dumb question but I've never had a CVT before apart from a rental.
    Thanks.

  • @kodak_jack
    @kodak_jack Před 3 měsíci

    Would you buy a used one if it was well maintained and no accidents?

  • @kiasportage3180
    @kiasportage3180 Před 2 lety

    How often should i change my transmission fluid in my 2019 subaru outback?

  • @subazealand9158
    @subazealand9158 Před 3 lety

    I love the looks of this new Outback, the interior, the quality, the drive, etc... But I have the last Forester Turbo we could get, and it's been an amazing car. If the Outback would have available for us the Turbo offered in other markets, I'd consider change my Foz for the Outback. Till that doesn't happen, I'm happy driving my Foz XT

    • @andrewwyminga311
      @andrewwyminga311 Před 3 lety

      Got one of these to replace 2016 outback and happy with it after the software update but quite shocked to see that the old beautully light alloy bonnet lifted by struts has been replaced with a heavy steel one that needs a oldfashioned prop to keep it up. Shame Subaru!

  • @steventhomas5865
    @steventhomas5865 Před 3 lety

    The CD player is required for the drive to dingo piss creek as the last 100 km (61 miles 'merica) has no phone data or FM radio.

  • @bruceparr1678
    @bruceparr1678 Před 3 lety +2

    Those new Subarus looknice. A bit like an AU wagon. I might buy one if my AU ever wears out.

  • @norsehall309
    @norsehall309 Před 3 lety +3

    I have never driven one however when driving around the outback l have seen then go well in some area that you would think this low vehicle wouldn't make it and it did, so if you like it get one.

    • @nordic5490
      @nordic5490 Před 2 lety

      Ok on a good road, but... in the remote areas of the NT, it is all Landcruisers amd a few Patrols.

  • @aussienscale
    @aussienscale Před 3 lety +5

    Had several Outbacks for work vehicles, both petrol and diesel, average 75k a year, never had an issue, but had a personal preference for the diesel, never had a days trouble with it !

  • @ben7020
    @ben7020 Před 3 lety +3

    All i heard was Patrol 😆 im addicted to them !

    • @bitzel
      @bitzel Před 3 lety

      Believe me,it’s a perfectly understandable addiction

    • @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
      @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars Před 3 lety

      @@bitzel Agreed. I get it. Quasimodo could ring that bell like nobody's business.

    • @jimmyhvy2277
      @jimmyhvy2277 Před 3 lety

      1996 Model here , its still going strong .

  • @MrFordy90
    @MrFordy90 Před 3 lety +21

    Would love to get another outback in my life, unfortunately I won’t consider it without either the 6 cyl or 2.4 turbo! I miss my ee20 outback lol

    • @zacknagel827
      @zacknagel827 Před 3 lety +4

      I would hate the transmission more then the FA, the fa in a manual transmission was wonderful, the CVT makes it feel like a garbage dump

    • @jasonvanderwel3272
      @jasonvanderwel3272 Před 3 lety +1

      Why not just add a turbo?

    • @MrFordy90
      @MrFordy90 Před 3 lety +4

      @@jasonvanderwel3272 mostly because the NA engines aren't strong enough to handle the power. Rebuild or replace the engine to make it stronger, add a decent turbo and all supporting mods you're already $10k deep. Just think it wouldn't cost that much from the factory and at that point I'd rather build a super gramps.

    • @sarahjnsn42
      @sarahjnsn42 Před 2 lety

      Outback XT coming in 2023! 😁

  • @warrenanderson9938
    @warrenanderson9938 Před 2 lety +1

    Skip the 2.4 turbo. We got a 2021 Touring (with turbo standard). Within a few months (March) it started dripping oil. Months later (December almost a year now) it still does. Subaru cannot figure it out. Car is in fact in the garage again this week. You are lucky they don't have them "down there". Get a truck with a v8, that's where I'm headed.

  • @Keithy_W
    @Keithy_W Před 3 lety +1

    Hi John,
    Great vid as always. This morning up in (surprisingly wet) Townsville I was doing the school run, one of the highlights of my weekday I must admit, when I noticed a seemingly ‘brand new looking’ Subaru about two cars in front of me. Nothing out of the ordinary to see a new Subaru getting around here, they are great cars.
    What took me back a little was the lines at the rear of this Subaru. The rear of the vehicle was very flat compared to the usual “slight curvature” (like the Ming moles) of the present Forester or Outback, and the tail lights looked (for lack of better description) like they were off a Ford Mustang. Do you know of any new or updated models coming soon? I couldn’t find this vehicle on the Subaru website at all and I didn’t get close enough to get a photo or see if it was possibly a Forester update perhaps.
    Love the vids as always, take care mate.
    Keithy

  • @blackyle3
    @blackyle3 Před 3 lety

    Any early thoughts on the wilderness

  • @jldam6515
    @jldam6515 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi John, I like your videos in general. In this case, I was quite confused about some of the statements you made. Tingks like, "it is good, but not as good at it could have been" is a kind of statement valid all time and not very useful. Anyhow, I would buy this car, as it is reliable, good and not too expensive ! If I understood well what you'd said, this is the useful summary...

  • @Excalabur50
    @Excalabur50 Před 3 lety +2

    Another top review John!

  • @michaelfinch1965
    @michaelfinch1965 Před 2 lety

    I had a Levorg, sold it. I felt that a souped up stationwagon felt like a compromise. Bought a new sensible outback! Then bought a sportscar to keep it company in the garage.

  • @paulsven7923
    @paulsven7923 Před 3 lety +3

    They still had cassettes when everyone went to CDs.....the good old XT Forester

    • @vincebagusauskas278
      @vincebagusauskas278 Před 3 lety

      I was told by a 19yo the other day: "I come from a generation that does not buy CDs". My response was: " ah Okay boomer"

  • @leighwilson1524
    @leighwilson1524 Před 3 lety

    I have had 5 Subarus, most 6 cylinders. I did not want to replace my last 6 with the same old 12 year old plus engine but I still wanted a true AWD with 2000 litres of cargo space. There is not too many around. I bought a Discovery, and before people go on about reliability, I have never had a mechanical issue and no recalls in 3 years. (Yes I am lucky) . I would go back to the Outback if the Turbo came.

  • @BoleDaPole
    @BoleDaPole Před 3 lety +1

    Darn, was really hoping for a limited edition dingo piss yellow flesh light. Guess I'll have to settle with the O Light.

    • @AutoExpertJC
      @AutoExpertJC  Před 3 lety +1

      I'll get my people to talk to Olight's people. Maybe scratch 'n' sniff would work...

  • @GlowingTube
    @GlowingTube Před 3 lety

    Stick an Asin 8 speed epicyclic torque converter auto in it, I’ll be interested.

  • @ricklewis5804
    @ricklewis5804 Před 2 lety +1

    Seeing complaints that the turbo isn’t available (I presume in Australia). The 2.5 was improved in either 2020 or 2021 from 175hp to 182. May not be much but it is noticeable nevertheless. According to one review I read it was redesigned with almost 90% newly designed parts. I put 17,000 miles on a 2021 Outback 2.5 before upgrading to the 2.4XT. 260hp vs. 182with only an 8% drop in gas mileage. I now have 11,000 miles on the XT. Bottom line, the 2.5 is great for city driving but if most of your driving is highway I strongly recommend the turbo. Lots more power and at lower engine rpm so it’s quieter too.

    • @DaDaDo661
      @DaDaDo661 Před 11 měsíci

      I found the 182HP 2.5 was quite a bit louder when accelerating, but was much quieter at idle than the 176hp 2.5. you do feel the extra 6HP on the Butt dyno.

  • @mws078
    @mws078 Před 3 lety +10

    I'm one of those bolted on Subaru fans. I've owned 10, currently have 3 being a WRX, Legacy GTB import and 2019 XV (wifes). I'm still waiting for the 2.4T in the Outback before I'll buy one. I'm in the 10% who want that bit more and aren't happy with mediocre.

    • @crj8387
      @crj8387 Před 3 lety

      I hear you Mark. I too am waiting for the turbo but not holding my breath. Test driving a VW Tiguan tomorrow with the same engine as the r line. If it goes ok might look at the 2021 VW Tiguan r line when they arrive in country next month. I’m not holding my breath for the suby turbo model

  • @nicholaskillian5093
    @nicholaskillian5093 Před 3 lety +4

    So right John, have an Outback 2019, was so looking forward to changing over to the Turbo, not now. 😡😟.Not happy Subaru .

  • @rob6310
    @rob6310 Před 3 lety +2

    I got a Limited XT over here ('merica) and that 2.4 is friggin sweet. I hope Subaru reconsiders and you Aussies get that sweet turbo mill. Peace!

    • @ytlurker220
      @ytlurker220 Před 3 lety

      Problem is, Japan doesn't have the tooling for it while Subaru USA does. They should make it the only option globally as the important thing is that it's more efficient.

  • @stevenjacobs616
    @stevenjacobs616 Před 2 lety

    A bit off track, but can anyone tell me, are the 2litre diesels say, 2017, better in torque and power then petrol? Do they have s bit of go, and tow a tinny ok?

  • @rommiemex9532
    @rommiemex9532 Před 2 lety

    I really want a new forester. I have a 2017 XT, and was looking for a new purchase, but cannot get another Subaru... It's just not enough without the turbo or 3.6 litre

  • @Buffrt66
    @Buffrt66 Před 3 lety

    Head gaskets, head gaskets!!!! Did they do anything to improve their "May pop" head gasket problems?????

  • @shanejumbo4432
    @shanejumbo4432 Před 3 lety +2

    Just got myself the Mara under 2 thanks to your last special announcement.... the 14000lm one. Fuck me dead..... John you got no idea mate......
    My wife thinks its the biggest waste of time. She has no idea about my boy brain. I needed this torch like my life depends on it.
    Life is perfect now.
    Thank you John.

    • @AutoExpertJC
      @AutoExpertJC  Před 3 lety +2

      It is brilliant - in both senses...

    • @labourlawact7826
      @labourlawact7826 Před 3 lety +1

      My boy brain just can't wait until John puts the ming mols up!
      Now that really gets my attention. 😄👋👍

  • @raing12345
    @raing12345 Před 3 lety +2

    John - what’s your thoughts on dealer pre paid services when purchasing a new car (Hyundai etc)

    • @ytlurker220
      @ytlurker220 Před 3 lety +2

      Avoid! Don't let them suckers draw more money out of you. It's always "bullshit o'clock". I had the wiring of an electric window fail on a recent i30 and it required extra payment to repair, despite it being under warranty and with a servicing plan. Which I didn't proceed with.

  • @johnnumbat9782
    @johnnumbat9782 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi John - Of the 10 Subarus I’ve owned (GC98 WRX Hatch, 97 Auto Forester, 2010 XT Forester …….) the 1996 Outback was only outback in name - the suspension was harsh and also useless offroad due to its poor approach and departure angles - it performed superbly as a city/regional tourer on all weather roads and beautifully made - I would happily own another Subaru but unfortunately Fuji decided to use the flawed CVT and my newly acquired Hilux is better suited for my new regional/outback lifestyle - John in SA

  • @18_rabbit
    @18_rabbit Před 3 lety

    Your hand 🛍️ collection is quite something! Particularly impressed w the anaconda skin one.

  • @Cruelaid
    @Cruelaid Před 3 lety

    Yes

  • @RobA-Me
    @RobA-Me Před 3 lety

    When do the Subaru EOFY deals typically come out??

    • @bazbbeeb7226
      @bazbbeeb7226 Před 3 lety +1

      they should have begun, and theres a 3-5 month wait on the Forester, probably the same timeline for the Outback. Mazda are advertising the fact that they have EOFY deals but the prices havent changed, theyve also got very little in stock.

  • @sturm7130
    @sturm7130 Před 2 lety

    I am still miffed cassette players replaced cartridge players. Still haven't decided what to do with my collection of cartridges ?

  • @jamestom2510
    @jamestom2510 Před 3 lety

    once my beloved 2012 forester gives up the ghost i will be buying a new 2012 forester but will install a slightly modded motor, not like the xt but more along the lines of an RS equivalent. I dont want turbo but i sure want a little more "down there" when overtaking is required or towing is needed.

  • @sheezy2526
    @sheezy2526 Před 2 lety

    CD's have a higher audio recording quality than almost anything else that you can get without pirating. Since the car has a good audio system, it make sense.

  • @brenthalliwell1702
    @brenthalliwell1702 Před 3 lety +8

    I still use CDs. Miss that feature in the Hyundai Tuscon I bought last year.

    • @davidstuckey7463
      @davidstuckey7463 Před 3 lety +6

      Some "modern" digital sound systems, play tracks in alphabetical order and not track number sequence. CDs are the only way to go if you play albums with tracks which overlap and merge.

    • @aussiebloke609
      @aussiebloke609 Před 3 lety +6

      I'm still on CDs. I just don't care to pay a second time for music I've already bought. Everything I have is on CD (except for a few on cassette and vinyl that aren't even offered in digital form.) I figure you gotta be a bit of a conspicuous consumer to go out and pay again and again for the same tunes on different media, keeping up with the Jonses in terms of electronic gimmickry. And the new stuff they call music is crap on a sandwich, so not worth paying for anything current, regardless of the medium it's offered on.

    • @Kris_M
      @Kris_M Před 3 lety +1

      @@aussiebloke609 There are more options than CD and streaming services.
      I ripped all my CDs to FLAC and mp3 so they can be played from a USB stick (those very short ones) or BT streamed from your phone, and thus available everywhere.

    • @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars
      @ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars Před 3 lety +3

      ​@@davidstuckey7463 Yes. Someone still gets it. Dark Side of the Moon. Queen. INXS. Wacko Jacko.

    • @Roger_Gadd
      @Roger_Gadd Před 3 lety

      Yep, I also rip the CDs I might want to listen to in my car to MP3 on my phone. It is kind of dangerous to change a CD in the player while driving.

  • @Mac-kd1qu
    @Mac-kd1qu Před 3 lety

    What's with the wheel arch plastic on most SUVs these days? Its like someone forgot how to colour between the lines.

  • @BusterKitten
    @BusterKitten Před 2 lety

    I still miss those 8 track players... got a produce box full of tapes.

  • @joeyl.2081
    @joeyl.2081 Před 3 lety

    Since you have an M2R Pro and an evaluation car handy. Could you test the hypothesis that an M2R Pro can be used to break through automotive glass in an emergency?
    Or is that kind of damage outside the motoring journalist code of ethics?

    • @AutoExpertJC
      @AutoExpertJC  Před 3 lety +1

      Spring-loaded centre punch...

    • @joeyl.2081
      @joeyl.2081 Před 3 lety

      Thanks @@AutoExpertJC. Cheaper than an M2R Pro as well. I still bought the flashlight for the car. Conveniently Mazda have a USB port in the centre storage compartment that will keep it charged.

  • @wolfiosti
    @wolfiosti Před 3 lety

    how is it on the road? did you drive it? you talk about passion...ok-but in real life whats different to the last one?what about comfort and road noise etc....hey.

  • @suzannelewis3829
    @suzannelewis3829 Před 2 lety

    Let's talk petrol/diesel economy ...diesel dpf filter issues ?

  • @crj8387
    @crj8387 Před 3 lety

    Currently in my 2017 top of the line outback purchased new. Looking to update and was eagerly anticipating the turbo model. Would have been an absolute no brainer. Skoda Kodiaq rs or VW Tiguan r line here I come.

    • @ytlurker220
      @ytlurker220 Před 3 lety

      Apparently the turbo is coming to NZ later this year. You could wait, VAG cars are not the best.

    • @crj8387
      @crj8387 Před 3 lety

      @@ytlurker220 tks Ed. First I’ve heard the kiwis getting it before us ( if we get it at all) but nothing surprises me. What is VAG ??

    • @ytlurker220
      @ytlurker220 Před 3 lety

      @@crj8387 Volkswagen Auto Group (Volkswagen AG) which includes VW, Audi, SEAT, Skoda etc. I reckon if the 2.4 turbo comes here, it'll be the best wagon/SUV crossover available. Mounds of space and good performance. Email Subaru Australia like many others have to put the pressure on. Their reply is something along the lines of "we've asked Japan, but it's not available".

  • @vonraf1
    @vonraf1 Před 3 lety

    you so right about the turbo engine range , its a shame