Coyotes will PAY for new arena: FINAL offer to stay in Arizona
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It's been two and a half years since the Coyotes had a permanent place to play and patience is on thin ice.
"I love the excitement, but is there a plan B? What if you aren't able to obtain that land?" asked Soto.
"This is it. This is the plan or else we are going to have to explore relocation of this organization," said Gutierrez.
"If I understand correctly, this is the last hurrah. If this doesn't happen, essentially, you've got to start looking at other avenues of the coyotes possibly leaving Arizona?" asked Soto.
"Absolutely. And we've made that very clear, and I think everyone should be aware of that. That this is it," Gutierrez replied.
The State Land Department has approved the auction for the land which is set for June 27.
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Chapters:
0:00 The very latest
2:18 No "Plan B" if this doesn't work
4:20 New VIDEO renderings of the site, project
6:52 Ownership will pay for everything
8:15 Site and project details
10:45 Conclusions
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This has been going on for 15 years now.
The NHL has gone above and beyond to save this club.
If this doesnt work, I don't want to hear one word about how it's Bettman or the NHL's fault.
The team could've moved 4-5 times in the last 15 years and avoided all the extra headaches. It's Bettman's fault we're still dealing with this trainwreck!
@@ElmerFudd16 the little man's hard on for az. caused it an embarassing headache they can't walk back now.
Well you’re gonna hear it. It’s Bettmans fault.
@@ElmerFudd16it really is because of how obsessed he is with this team and making it his own little science experiment to see how hard a team can fail
About time the public stood up to the owners
Explain to us where with this northeast Phoenix proposal that the public has any position to "stand up to an owner".
Something here makes no sense - the ownership can afford all of this...but yet they could not pay the rent at their old arena?
So sick of people not knowing facts and blurt out bull****. They paid their rent. It had nothing to do with them not affording it.
@@NHLCrazy2007 They got a loan from the league. We know Meruelo is a fraud.
@NHLCrazy2007 they were 6 months late and only paid after the city called out their poverty franchise.
@@kevinmaghran6933 I will not take anything you say seriously. I hope your "poverty" life has a nice day.
@@NHLCrazy2007 it's a fact that the franchise paid rent and taxes late. Why would anyone trust a poverty franchise who pays rent and taxes late?
I pay my mortgage and taxes on time because I'm not a poverty person.
I will buy season tickets as a North Scottsdale resident if this arena proposal works out
And then stop going by year 3, just like everyone else!
Is this ownership group really going to pony up over 3B+ dollars to fund this entertainment district? I guess we’ll see but I’m skeptical given their history although I want it to happen.
If they did they’d own a crazy amount of valueable real estate in Arizona**
@@westcoast9285 And the team overall value will skyrocket with this since they will own the arena and this land too I’m just gonna be skeptical until they get it passed the finish line.
The plan has always been to pay for the arena no matter where they put it. Was the plan in Tempe as well, just special interest groups put out tons of misinformation.
@@ki2726 this concept in AZ is similar to the coliseum city concept visualized and attempted before Raiders left Oakland involving As and Raiders getting new stadiums and there being housing and food and entertainment and office space except with this AZ concept it’s 1 ownership group shouldering way more. It’s a bigger risk but the reward would be tenfold. Wishing them the best of luck I hope they succeed we’ve had every pro sports team stolen from the East Bay unfortunately
@@alexkueter9710 no smart taxpayers didn't want to be stuck with higher taxes aa a billionaire com man gets tax breaks in exchange for an arena development that would have swelled to well over $ 2 billion with no guarantee that devlopment would have been delivered and cancelled that shit out.
Brodie I'm with you on most of this aside from building up parking lots if anything that would be the real bottleneck encouraging traffic, if they are starting with a blank canvas they could build cheap, fast, & safe public transit without nimbys stopping them. If the idea is to build a community from scratch why not try something different than yet another basic set of suburbs in the southwest.
They would be just the third franchise to privately fund their own stadium in the last 10 years. Baby steps here.
Especially when you would need a few transit lines to garner enough foot traffic to the arena. I think that would be a bridge too far with this plan right now.
Them paying for their own arena isn't a negotiating offer . It's a basic expectation
Love your videos love your calm demeanour…. Keep up the good work my friend.
Its kinda pathetic that paying for their own arena is a "final offer" when it should be the norm
And somehow you care, because?
@@NHLCrazy2007 because it’s a terrible precedent that hurts taxpayers up and down the country?
@@Gallalad1 What part of 100% privately funded do you not understand here?
@@NHLCrazy2007 no my frustration is that this wasnt the norm. That the final offer is the private one is pathetic. The idea of government funding should never have even happened
@@Gallalad1tempe offer was privately funded as well. City was on the hook for infrastructure and cleaning up the landfill, just like they will be no matter what is built there.
This is already Plan G or H at this point - we’re long past Plan B.
So what.
Yes the Coyotes and their financial backers are going to buy the land and pay for the entire development themselves and it's going to be a great investment. The neighborhood that this is getting built in has lots and lots of money floating around. It's right across the street from the TPC Scottsdale golf course where they host the Phoenix Open every year. Desert Ridge Marketplace and Westworld are in the neighborhood too and this stadium connects them together into a continuous entertainment district. The homes in the neighborhood go for a million dollars minimum so you know there's already huge demand for people to live in North Scottsdale. There are so many banks who want to get in on these investments so I expect it to get built and become a huge success.
LMAO imagine falling for Merulo's grift this bad that you write this many paragraphs about it
with all these billionaires owning teams now a days i find it insane that any public money goes to new arenas and stadiums
Educate yourself on the plan, you fool!
I like my money but I love your money
One problem here can they survive playing another 3 years playing in a college arena that seats 4500 while waiting for a new arena under construction even if it goes through
And you care about their survival at Mullett Arena because it impacts your bank accounts?
They are paying for infrastructure, but I still wonder what the “ask” is of the city. Are there tax breaks being requested? What about police and fire department services? If there’s a residential component, are they building schools? Who pays to run the schools?
I’m not being pessimistic about it and it still seems like a great deal to the city, but if it’s free to taxpayers, what does “free” really mean?
Police, fire and such like are considered public services and would be paid for (I assume) through property taxes like any other development would be. It wouldn't be their responsibility to pay for these services any more than it would if they were building a mall, factory, warehouse or any other kind of project.
Same for schools. Not their responsibility. Schools there, if they are needed, would be funded the same way they would be anywhere else.
@@hughjass1044 Correct, but we never heard if the developers are asking for tax breaks or not. All we know is that they’re not asking for the public to fund construction. And if the developers are constructing water and sewer lines, there isn’t a clear delineation between public utilities and private development.
What part of 100% privately funded do you not understand?
@@scottNNJ I don't know how things work there but where I am, the governments of whatever level(s) will build the so-called trunk lines to the perimeter of the project and the developers handle anything that's on site.
So in this case for example, the state and/or city would build anything that's needed up that Scottsdale Rd (or whatever it's called) and the Coyotes group would build everything else.
The "cost to taxpayer" isn't going to be zero but it never is in any kind of large development project. There's always an initial outlay of money to get services up and running but don't forget, there is also a lot more new tax money that will be coming in as a result of that development.
@ NHLCrazy2007
It’s 100% privately funded until the team decides “LOL, j/k, give us some public money”.
My two questions here are: 1) That's a lot of water. Where is it coming from? Privately purchased water rights? If so, up the development price by half, and; 2) What is the appetite for retail and commercial in this market? "Luxury" residential in AZ usually means a golf course ranch home. There aren't a lot of Millennials, much less Zoomers with the kind of cash to buy into a place like that, and Boomers and condos are a tough sell, particularly with the insurance and HOA trauma now going on...That said... 😃 ...Meruelo is a smart cookie. He isn't going to go it alone on 110 acres. In fact, I suspect the Coyotes would be a minority partner in a huge PUD involving a Rouse, Gerald Hines, Westfield, or some other big block developer, with the Kachina Dogs taking the paper to only what they need - the arena - yet making passive income from everything around it. It's a great plan, and hats off to them for thinking big. I just wonder about doing it in a down RE market...And, yeah. Change the name back to Phoenix Coyotes. Glendale, Scottsdale, Tempe, Mesa - here's a big middle finger for all your "help"... 😏
Got to love this dope talk more bullshit. 🤣🤣
If Atlanta got a third chance at having an NHL team, then the arena would have to be in a good location. Smyrna, Alpharretta, Sandy Springs, Marietta, Buckhead might be good parts of the town to put an arena but somewhere between Braselton and Atlanta to avoid traffic congestion. Braselton is a small town in 4 different counties where Road Atlanta is located. I think it should be in the city outskirts but not in the city limits. Doraville. I don’t know
This is plan K
Good, let it Plan L or M or N... the team will be staying in Arizona.
@@NHLCrazy2007 and if this fails?
@@darthvader3742 It will not fail. I will put that on the record.
@@NHLCrazy2007give it up bro it’s over
@@NHLCrazy2007 Just like Tempe wouldn't fail!
Renderings always have way too few parking garages and parking lots compared to how many we get once the stadium is built
I'm praying dude...if they leave i don't know who I'm gonna root for or what I'm gonna do.
TB Lightning. They have what you are looking for.
Are you from Arizona, because if you're not it's pretty easy to root for any other team not gonna lie 😅
maybe got a life is something you can do if your life revolves around this shitstorm of a team.
@@ja3188 Louisiana. i don't like any of the teams near me
@@stevenbauer4799 how about piss off? How tf does me being upset about a team i like possibly leaving mean I need to get a life or I have my whole life revolving around it? Dumb ass
17,000 seat arena. Would be one of the more smaller facility attendance wise.
Explain to me how 17K is "more smaller"? It is about average. There are only a small number of NHL arenas that are 19K or more.
Looks and sounds like just another pipe dream!
My lawyer friend (and fellow power ranker who does it for the Yotes) says, Meruelo needs to have a $16m cash retainer to enter a bid into the auction; which I assume was met. He mentions how the Suns and Dbacks have a good relationship in Phoenix, with their respective venues sharing a parking garage. Don't be surprised if they show up to the auction to squash Meruelo since development politics is nasty there. Amusingly, it's an honest-to-goodness auction with paddles and a fast-talking auctioneer too.
Got to love these conspiracy theorists with their crooked ideas of what they think will happen.
Does Phoenix need a third major league quality arena? They supposedly never drew in Glendale because it was too far from downtown and Tempe/Mesa, but this seems almost as far from those places. Also it would be a third major league arena (the Suns arena, Glendale, and this, 4 if you count Mullett, 5 if you include the Memorial Colosseum where the Suns used to play)
I'm surprised the Veterans Coliseum is still standing. What purpose could it possibly still be serving in 2024? The Suns haven't played there in 30 years
Veterans memorial coliseum hosts expos and fairs and concerts and some other random things. When I got my U.S. Citizenship, the ceremony was held at the Coliseum.
Speaking of taxes, I wonder what the team wants in exchange for making this development "free" for the city. 🤔
I am very, very confused. I live in Kentucky, but I used to visit the Phoenix area every fall, and caught a couple of hockey games in a very nice arena in Glendale. The Coyotes are now playing in a 4,500 seat arena? Huh? They want to buy land to build a new 18,500 seat arena in Scottsdale. I am familiar with both the Scottsdale and Glendale locations. Why would they want to pay to build a new facility when there was nothing wrong with the old facility? Are these folks investing in a hockey team or a real estate business? Something isn't right about this picture. What am I missing?
lot has happened last 3-4 years
The hockey arena was on the wrong side of town & they wore out their welcome with the city of Glendale after many squabbles.
Everything that led up to it can’t be properly explained in a comment or probably even a single video, but after years of various problems the city of Glendale decided (correctly) that the Coyotes were more trouble than they were worth and declined to renew the team’s lease past the 2021-22 season, effectively evicting them from the arena.
@@kevinvonderscher3971 wrong side of town? don't forget the east valley (Scottsdale) told them NO from the very beginning.
The issue with Glendale was that it was out of reach for a lot of people to get to for 41 games a season especially on week days especially for a mediocre team. With an arena in north Phoenix off of pretty much the 101, 51, and 17 traffic and transit would be much better and people will be more inclined to watch a better team now that they are getting lots of prospects and good players in the system
A few years ago they had problems paying the rent in Glendale
That was not the same owners, the current one is a billionaire.
Which means hockey is unprofitable in Phoenix
@@joanned8172 It was 2021, and Meruelo bought them in 2019. Jackass.
Talk more about the A's 😊
If it doesn’t work out come to Liitle Rock
The coyotes should spend some money on developing a new logo first.
Soon
Later
Certain
Water, water, water?
Houston will welcome the Coyotes with open arms. Houston deserves a NHL team
You won't get the Yotes as relocating a team to Houston is pissing away money from the league's perspective, no doubt Houston will get a team, but it will be via expansion only.
Houston feels too similar to Atlanta and Phoenix and every other southern market - it’ll be good if the team wins, if not it’ll be a disaster
Wow!! First!! Being from Utah but now living in Washington I kind of hope the Coyotes love to Utah however I also don't want to see a city lose their team.
Was supposed to say leave not love.
ARZ AZ Arizona Coyotes Should head back to Glendale AZ
They'll move to Houston before Salt Lake. Reason, the building is ready in Houston, and it's the largest tv market in the US without a team currently.
@@davidrosca8059
The reason for the Coyotes ongoing situation is a result of moving to Glendale in the first place, and Glendale terminated their relationship with the Coyotes, hence they don't want anything to do with them. Your comment isn't a viable option for them in reality.
@@KWally That would make sense but Utah has a new NHL/NBA that has been approved.
No City should pay for arenas to be built
So where do they play until this place supposedly opens?
Mullet
@@billcook4768 yikes!
They would still play at Mullet arena.
The bigger issue is that the current owner is looking for new partners. Arizona is losing more and more money
No, it's called a backup plan. And about that "losing money" part. Might want to do a wee bit research next time about them being cash positive at Mullett Arena in their first 2 seasons there.
@@NHLCrazy2007 you are factoring the money from the NHL. This needs to be factored in. Right now the NHL is underwriting all loses the team is incurring,. You might want to remember that.
Bet ryan Smith in utah starts putting together a purpose for that land lol
Of course, the arena is going to be built first.
I live in Canada. When the team first came to Phoenix the fans came out in droves. America West Arena was in Downtown Phoenix. The Coyotes were perennial playoff contenders. You can't tell me that hockey in Arizona doesnt work, because it has. The franchise finally looks like they're getting their heads out of their asses from the hockey standpoint. I just hope that the team actually has something to play in, because a 5000 seat arena is a bit depressing.
it’s 4600 lol
@@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija It is normally a 5,000-seat building. But 300 to 400 tickets had to be cut off from being sold to accommodate NHL media, production crews and employees.
I live 3 miles from the Glendale arena. Hockey for a profit in the Valley of the Sun is a long way away from working.
@@landscape674 You keep thinking that after the new arena opens in 2027.
They didn't fill 4600 every night...
Off topic but the Braves still have the larger letters ❤️👀
I love how the NHL has tried to hold onto this market for decades and tried soooo many locations and even put them in a highscool/college level facility for so many interim years. When it came to MLB and Oakland they spent 10+ years on other cities then finally make there preferred pick in Oakland which was a joke because they never spoke to the tenants and just made a public announcement. Of course it gets shot down within a few months. Then they pick an absolute beauty of a site, but will cost a LOT to host not just a ballpark but a fuckin mini city. Aaaaaand of course they wanted it all for free like the scumbags they are. They give Oakland 2 years to try and scavenge for $ then they keep upping the cost amount and then walk away when there's only a 100mil gap. Total fake bs.
if im that guy in utah im doing everything to buy that land lol
Keep dreaming. Will never happen. But thanks for being a dumb*** in playing.
Forget the yotes, we need the dbacks to stay
Lol... it's been countless plan B's. Move this team already 😂
Wow, let's hope they get it, I'd love for them to stay put and finally have a bit of stability
Looks like a 15 minute City to me 🤔
Pipe dream.
Phases, yes. But profit from the private development on the site is what helps pay for the arena. Without some of that up front, it doesn't get built.
Thank God our Oaklands Major isn't over there or you could kiss the Coyotes Good Bye... Sacramemto Coyotes
That's a good one! Nope.🤣🤣
Please stop saying it is north of Scottsdale, it is west of Scottsdale.
Not just west of Scottsdale, it is in northeast Phoenix.
Move to Quebec City
Nope.
I hope this goes through. This would be 10-20 mins from my house
I live about 5 minute drive from T Mobile arena. Very convenient. Just suck Knights tickets are hella expensive. LOL
@@alohastate8256 I go to t mobile all the time for ufc fights. But yeah it being so close is always great.
your rents going up bud
@@numagik 😅 Luckily I own. With the A's coming in just down the street too, hopefully home value will raise (unlike VGKs powerplay percentage)
What'll be your excuse for not going when the time comes?
Meruelo is God 🙌
It's the Coyotes. There is always a plan B.
And there will be a Plan C or D or E... whatever it takes to stay in Arizona.
@@NHLCrazy2007 why don't you paul troll gweduzzi pay $ billion to buy yotes another $ billion to build arena and keep them in az. cause only an insane fkn a hole would attempt to buy/keep a team not feasible in that market.
Coyotes owner has a net worth of 2 billion and is gonna finance his own arena (granted, after trying to get the public to pay for it).
John Fisher has a net worth of 3.1 billion and is claiming poverty and moving his team.
Neither owner's team has a proper facility to operate. Both the A's and the Coyotes have been, shall we say, 'challenged' franchises.
@@FischerFan Fisher could've rebuilt at the coliseum site, which already has a BART station and plenty of room for an entertainment district. But he didn't. He wanted Oakland to pay the bill
Isn't this the same franchise that couldn't afford to pay their bills in Glendale?
Only the haters care.
Yes. The owners had problems paying the rent
@@gerrylee1687 Incorrect. Alex Meruelo withheld funds until the threat by Kevin Phelps was made about locking the team out the arena.
@NHLCrazy2007 Besides "We're planning on building a new arena anyways so we don't need you," why would Meruelo withhold funds?
@@HHSGDFootballJPD I want you to actually think logically about the situation at the time. It is not hard to figure out why that he did.
Hunger games looking
As someone who lives in Salt Lake, I hope the Coyotes are able to make this happen and stay in Arizona. Maybe we'll get an expansion team sometime down the line, but I'd rather the fans in AZ get to keep their team.
They can eventually be backfilled with an expansion team. This team is the original Winnipeg Jets. Winnipeg got their expansion team. Let this team move to SLC and get renamed.
Finally, a fan from Utah that would want to see BOTH the Coyotes and their own team co-exist in the league. We need more people like you around.
@@ArizonaHotSauce The team belongs in Houston.
@@ArizonaHotSauce Winnipeg didn't get an expansion team. It got the relocated Atlanta Thrashers.
@@maxpowr90 You are correct. My mistake. They got the 3yr expansion Atlanta team. Side question - did they assume the old Jets lineage and records or did they go with the team to Arizona?
Brodie, you got a U 67?!?😂😮
Makes me wonder why someone couldn't have been this ambitious years ago. In any case, I hope they succeed. A market that size should have a team.
Hope the coyotes stay in Arizona
I sincerely hope the Coyotes can stay in Arizona as this plan looks very good, especially the part about the team paying for all of this.
Agreed. We live 10 mins from tje glendale OLD location. Then they went to Tempe.. Uber to Scottsdale isn't to bad. THIS... Coming from a Life long REDWINGS FAN
You people need to stop being so optimistic. Even if the bet was won the parcel of land is so bad it’s going to go through obstacles and loopholes. It would be better if the coyotes moved to Salt Lake City. Would love to watch the mercury move too because they suck as well but ah wrll
@@crazycorn5643 Phoenix is an exponentially larger market than SLC. With a stable ownership and arena, the Yotes will no longer be the joke of the NHL.
Where have I heard that before?
28 years of the same thing
And I heard that BS with Atlanta...a far larger market that failed worse
Go to Quebec
Nope.
@@NHLCrazy2007Where to then.
@@danlivni2097 Nowhere. They are staying in Arizona. Deal with it.
Keep hockey in Arizona
Should change the name to ROADRUNNERS
Um, if you even pay attention to hockey leagues, their AHL team has that name.
I wish them well!
Are the Suns moving there too? Doesn't the Suns have an arena, why don't the Coyotes play there?
1) America West (or whatever it’s called this year) was built as a basketball-only arena and has terrible seating for hockey. (2) The two teams hate each other (3) The money is hockey these days is from the arena itself and the ability to use it as an anchor for development deals.
Arizona to Atlanta? 👀 Could be an interesting option at the Atlanta NHL group is pushing hard on getting a team expansion there.
Atlanta is where you put a team if you want it to struggle mightily then move to Canada.
I love watching the Atlanta Thrashers play the Atlanta Flames
@@billhunter8209
Ah yes the battle of Atlanta 😂
Thrashers beat the Flames the other night 👍
It is NOT an option.
Looks like a pretty cool building, but I doubt it happens.
Go Coyotes! #Howl
Brodie, what do you make of recent reports alleging that Alex Meruelo was shopping the team? This whole saga has the stench of John Fisher and the Path(l)etics.
I think he’s doing his due diligence incase they do not win the auction because if they don’t win the bid they basically have to sell
It is false. John Gambadoro has no sources to back his claims.
@@NHLCrazy2007 Gambadoro is pretty plugged in with every Phoenix based team
@@ki2726 Oh is he? That's news to many people locally. The guy talks about the Cardinals year round and that dominates his show.
The team says there is no plan B; if this falls apart we will have to leave. All 13,000 Yotes fans in Phoenix are crushed.
I don't believe that for a second. The team is not going to divulge any local Plan B at this point anyway. It would not be sensible while Alex Meruelo owns the team. Just like Mat Ishnia would never say he is interested while the team is not for sale.
@@NHLCrazy2007 They have no Plan B LMAO
I wish Portland could have an NHL team. I remember when Paul Allen was briefly interested in buying the Coyotes on the cheap to move them there. They could have a successful team just like Seattle and Vancouver. Imagine THAT Cascadia rivalry.
Portland would still be good. He tried to buy the Pens. Before the current ownership group bought them.
I love my Coyotes, but we've got 3 other arenas here that they could play in. They lost the Desert Diamond Arena because they couldn't pay the rent. How do they have all of this money now, when they couldn't lease an actual arena? Is it because the tickets are so expensive at the Mullet that they're now swimming in cash? It reminds me of the time I spotted my friend $100 because they were short on rent and next time I was at their place they had a new PS5.
Incorrect on Desert Diamond Arena. Do your damn research. The Coyotes did not want to commit to another 12 to 20 years in Glendale KNOWING it is financially not viable to stay there. Glendale officials (namely Kevin Phelps) opted in response to not renew the year-to-year lease anymore, But you keep believing that narrative about not affording rent and withholding taxes. You clearly fail to know the basic concept of playing in the wrong location and losing money.
And you again do not grasp another basic business concept for why the Coyotes had to raise ticket prices at Mullett Arena. Less supply, higher prices for tickets. Yet, it has been reported they have not lost money there either. Just not as much made as other teams with standard NHL arenas.
@@NHLCrazy2007 In December of 2021 it was reported that they owed $2.7 Million in unpaid rent. That was on top of owing $1.3 Million in taxes that they eventually paid. The city opted to not renew them due to conflict of interest laws because they weren't paying their taxes and the arena is owned and operated by the city of Glendale. They wouldn't have been renewed for any length of time because they weren't paying their damn bills. Go touch some grass dude. Even Brodie has reported on that recently.
I think its fairly obvious to everyone that's why their ticket prices are so high. They wouldn't be able to afford their players and compete in the league if they weren't making extra money from somewhere.
@@tjshultz89 Go touch some grass? Listen, jack***... before trying to lecture me in repeating the same bull**** from the national media, here is a bit of a reality check on the truth for you. I will say this again for you to comprehend. Glendale city manager Kevin Phelps wanted the Coyotes to commit to a 12 to 20-year extension to the final year-to-year agreement that was allowed to expire and the team said NO. Alex Meruelo wanted to move the Coyotes to the east side of town for reasons already stated numerous times. Phelps responded by opting not to renew the contract beyond the 2021-2022 season. He even went on record recently to confirm this. Oh and while Glendale owns Desert Diamond Arena, ASM Global is the operator. Might want to get that fact straight.
Then your flawed logic on the current ticket prices. Clearly you fail miserably a basic concept of Economics 101. AGAIN... less supply plus at minimum same demand equals higher prices. Another thing you fail to know and/or acknowledge is that the Coyotes have been cash flow positive since they began playing at Mullett Arena, including this season alone in having 5 home games rake in at least $1 million in game revenue. Yeah, in an arena where only 4,600 tickets are available for sale (season tickets and single game seats).
Next, if you knew a damn thing about the Meruelo family's financials, you would know they own a lot more than just the hockey team. Might want to read up on their portfolio.
And lastly, as much as I normally enjoy Brodie Brazil's work, his "reporting" on the Coyotes has missed the mark a good number of times with too much information left out and not accurately reported. And if you are supposedly a Coyotes fan, you would have known already to have Craig Morgan as your actual source of information on the team he has covered for almost the team's entire existence in Arizona. That includes all things ownership and arena. But you would rather listen to Brodie tells me just how unwilling you are to know the actual facts.
@@NHLCrazy2007 What a load of diarrhea splattered on my screen
I call out their bluff. Privately funded, which is the best option amongst taxpayers. This makes Meruelo
look like a great Samaritan BUT they don't win the bid for the land. Exit Arizona!
Not moving. End of story.
God, I hope they win the auction. Coyotes have great fans who have dealt with so much over the years. Additionally, Phoenix is a huge market that the NHL doesn't want to lose.
Yup. And it is the expectation the Coyotes WILL win that auction. If you are going to spend $3 billion+ for a mixed use development on 95 acres, then your first order of business is to end up with not just the highest bid, but the BEST plan.
@@NHLCrazy2007 Since you are so confident I can’t wait to come back to this after the auction. I have no idea how you’re so confident in Alex Meruelo and the Coyotes when they’ve burned the fans so many times in the past.
@@ki2726 Come back and do what? Complain out of bitterness somehow after the Coyotes win the auction and secure their future that it was a corrupt process? I am waiting for that pathetic conspiracy theory to be put out there.
@@ki2726I’ll admit past ownership was awful but Mereulo has owned the team for like 4 years. He’s been committed to try and bring a good hockey team to az since he’s bought it
@@nicktully7732 Which is why the roster is complete dogshit, he didn't pay rent in Glendale, and didn't give a shit about the Tempe vote. You people are clueless.
I'm glad the coyotes are staying, we get to keep the only Phoenix Columbus rivalry in sports.
Nothing has been confirmed yet.
What is with your fixation over a rivalry that does not exist?
How did you arrive to the conclusion that the Coyotes are staying? That has not been decided yet which this video made clear. They have to secure the winning bid in late June which is not a guarantee.
@@moonytheloony6516 You need to add up all the variables of what the plan is, how the auction will be won and what the odds are that there would be a mysterious bidder that can come up with a plan before June 27th that is better than Alex Meruelo's proposal. There is even the possibility that he may end up the only bidder. If there was a better plan for this site, that other bidder would have had to apply for the auction and do the same thing the Coyotes did. The only way they do not stay is 1) they lose the auction and 2) regardless of what Xavier Gutierrez said, no other local buyer ends up buying the team.
@@NHLCrazy2007 Meruelo's proposal? You mean "hope to God the NHL doesn't find out I'm a broke jackass fraud and lets me keep the team"?
A major concern is that some billionaire shows up to the auction and outbid the coyotes for the land, depriving the!yotes of this opportunity, forcing them to move, which ultimately is what that other bitter wanted.
You think that one has to simply outbid Alex Meruelo? Um, no.
Maybe the people from the Salt Lake group shows up and outbid them then sells the land afterwards lol😂😂
@@joshstorch3315 You must be that stupid to believe such an idiotic idea would ever happen.
It's not the highest value bid wins. Everyone puts in a proposal consisting of not only what they will pay but what they will do with the property. So a lower value bid could win if the state feels that it is a better use.
@@alexkueter9710 100% correct.
Yes we knew from Tempe it was going to be privately funded. Only difference in Tempe is that if you went to the arena or any of the entertainment district the tax you spent would go to the Ted. No outside taxes for either district.
Coyotes Out of Glendale
It has already been reported...several times... that it will be built in multiple phases!
As the saying goes...third arena's the charm.
I hope to see this project go through. With this addition the neighboring parcels will also increase in value.
We are probably looking at a 10 year build out. I will be surprised to see the luxury condo towers are actually built.
Furthermore did anyone complain about the condos all around Scottsdale rd? Or office buildings complexes lining the 101? Did those get tax breaks? Just food for thought before anyone questions the Yotes.
I hope this works out for them. I’m glad to see this will be privately funded and constructed. That’s better for the community.
Every NHL owner is like we got to get them out of Arizona, we cant have them screw up our government handouts 😂
You are a complete ****. What part of 100% privately funded do you not understand? Oh wait, all of it.
@@NHLCrazy2007 What part of Meruelo being a fraud don't you understand?
@@ElmerFudd16 What part of you not admitting you are an ***hole do you not understand? Go watch replays of some softball games.
I feel like this is all for show, they’re gone 🫤
Three options if the Coyotes leave: Houston, Salt Lake City and Quebec City.
Maybe Kansas City as well.
It’s really only Utah who already has an arena available.
QUEBEC CITY IS NEVER GETTING A TEAM
Not Quebec City that would mean a team would have to come to the Western Conference
Too bad for you that none of those options will happen. But keep dreaming.
They had that in Glendale. They are just cheapskates hard to believe that they’re gonna pony up any money. There is bad as A’s ownership. I live here in the Bay Area and I also have a place in Cave Creek Arizona. They got evicted. What does that say about them? people that only these franchises are carpet baggers every last one of them they all want free money.
Not quite. Glendale demanded a 12+ yr lease deal which current ownership refused knowing they need to in a better location. And that was after Glendale broke a contract with team. Plenty of bad blood & trust issues between CoG & the Coyotes.
@@DarkForceEight b s glendale was blackmailed into funding yotes losses for years. then yotes pulled the we wont pay our bills b s on the premise of getting tempe arena which failed. and glendale gave yotes the sweetheart one year lease option right up until they left. they were within their right to get certaintly with a lengthy lease. glendale paid their bills for almost ten years. it was time to tell yotes to fk off and go build their own arena. glendale make more off of other events that they did with yotes who brought in roughly $12,000 per game. pathetic.
@@DarkForceEight thanks for sharing I appreciate that.👍🏾
@@stevenbauer4799 Look at this conspiracy theorist shooting his ignorant mouth off as usual. Just as much of a troll as usual. Looking forward to your temper tantrum when the Coyotes end up staying in Arizona. I can see you so fighting mad, it will be fun to watch.
If this was such a great deal they would finance he project themselves. Walmart doesn’t as the government to build them a superstore so that they can make money. Likely a Walmart would employ more people year around.
How did government and private businesses become “partners”? It’s a very one sided relationship at best.
They ARE funding it themselves. Did you watch the video?
SALT LAKE CITY here WE come......😂😂😂
Nope
They should have let them move to Hamilton
🤣🤣🤣
In all fairness they were willing to pay for everything in Tempe too, this just allows them to get around people spreading misinformation before a vote
Except Meruelo begged for $500 million from taxpayers...
This would make sense as to why they’re doing L-101 improvements near that area now.
The biggest issue is going to be water.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is beyond a joke of a comment. Like you give a **** about water in any other arena in the league.
@@NHLCrazy2007 Like you're even aware that Arizona is having a water crisis. You'd have to be let out of your padded cell to know about that.
@@ElmerFudd16 Says the troll from Delaware. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@NHLCrazy2007 Read the news. Arizona's gonna run out of water.
I hope they move to Hartford and bring back the Whalers
Just win the auction.... Period!!!
The Coyotes are gonna be contenders and may be in the Stanley cup the next 5 years and it bums me out most fellow Arizonans don't see it. They have such a promising young roster. Doan, Keller, Bjugstad, Cooley...... We're oh so close to getting a bandwagon lol
Exactly!!! They'll concentrate on that later and minimize it somehow. Meanwhile other teams with abuse scandals get #1 picks and all is forgiven. Sorry not sorry.
@@Michael_RareZebra They'll concentrate on that later...sometime...maybe in 20 years...
@@ElmerFudd16 So you’re admitting they’ll be here in AZ in 20 years. Great!!
@@Michael_RareZebra If they're here in 20 years, they'll still be terrible!
@@ElmerFudd16 Terrible like scoring 6 goals in one period to beat last year’s cup champs.
Wouldn’t trust these clowns to run a lemonade stand. Anybody who thinks they could pull this off is nuts.
Keep crying and eating ***burgers when this deal is finalized real soon.
Just like anybody with half a brain should ever believe a word you say.
Keep this in mind, @BrodieBrazil. Xavier Gutierrez is not going to divulge any Plan B for as long as his boss owns the team. Because if he did, the media including yourself would be pressing for answers and who by name would step in if this plan fails. They know that this is Meruelo's final chance to secure the arena. Not necessarily the final chance for the Coyotes to stay.
Plan B is Utah. The NHL is not going to continue to wait for another 2 options to fail. They either win the bid on June 27th or they will be gone.
@@skyhawk4946 Incorrect.
@NHLCrazy2007 be strong, relief will be here for you in a week.