Yankees say MLB teams can't SUSTAIN top payrolls anymore
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The whole point of a salary cap or luxury tax is to prevent teams from amassing huge payrolls over the long term and try to level the playing field financially. The NFL is as popular as it is because of its salary cap, which helps make small market teams competitive with large market teams, and gives fans in most cities (even Green Bay) a realistic belief that their teams can be competitive.
The NFL is popular because 1) Tom Brady was Houdini in 2 minute situations, consistently keeping the Patriots in games, and 2) Mahomes can do a full sprint across the field, dive towards the sidelines at the line of scrimmage and throw a 20-yd dart to Kelsey from his hip.
It's the talent on offense (and mainly the QB position) because there are teams that have stunk in the NFL and have for a while...
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The NFL has been more popular than MLB for decades. And it has zero to do with Tom Brady of Patrick Mahomes.
I’ve been pridicting for about a year ( as a former labour negotiator) that many of the moves that the small market teams are making are setting up for a major lockout to get a salary cap. MLB will give up its anti trust exemption to to do it.
To be fair, the Royals were never going to be in the hunt for Juan Soto.
It's when the Yankees are aching about salary and the Red Sox owners are telling Craig Breslow he can only spend $170 million on payroll that we have problems...
@@HHSGDFootballJPD yes. The cost of tickets are out of control and the owners believe the path is salary cap. Plus envious of NFL and NBA owners
Owners: We can't afford these payrolls!*
* (and continue to make appalling sums of money for ourselves)
Maybe DON'T try to sign or acquire every big name talent that puts you over the luxury tax threshold?
Or use the luxury tax threshold as the SALARY CAP!!!! No deferred salaries either... Deferring salaries eventually effect future payrolls...
Steinbrenner doesn't HAVE to have a $300 million payroll. He CHOOSES to have a $300 million payroll. Dave Stewart nailed it from that perspective.
I'm not a fan of the salary cap, though. I know the other major professional sports leagues have one, but it's going to be a hard sell when teams with low payrolls such as the Guardians the Orioles are contenders and teams with high payrolls such as the Padres, Jays, Giants, and especially the Mets are not. Again, that's where Dave Stewart was right; drafts + international signings for the base, supplement with trades and FA more or less in that order, and you'll have a sustainable team without blowing your budget. A lot of the big market teams have poor farm systems, and not just because they're trading top prospects for big leaguers to get over the hump.
By the way: is that a picture of Dave with the 1993 Blue Jays behind him?
It's like they didn't pay attention to Moneyball lol.
Of course you are going to have some lower payroll teams have some good years just the law of averages pro sports are not a normal business however in over 30 years only one team with a payroll in the bottom half has won the world series.
Yes, he won 2 out of his 3 World Series with the Blue Jays in 1992 and 1993
You don't like a salary cap? You must be a fan of a New York, California, or Texas team. Without a salary cap no small market team will ever be able to compete inn the long term. They can have a young team that defies expectations and makes a run or even wins a World Series. But that team will immediately be sold off for new prospects because they cant afford to pay their top players. Thus, teams like the Yankees overspend on superstars, reach their 300 million payroll, bitch about how much they themselves decided to spend on their team, and here we are, calling for players to be paid less. A bunch of bullshit by the rich. The Yankees and teams like them are the actual problem. And this isnt even getting to the core of the issue with regional sports networks.
@@mattwestfield6483 : nope. Jays fan. I understand the published theory behind a salary cap. I just don't buy the theory. It is what it always was: a means for owners to protect themselves from themselves.
There's also no guarantee that being a high-spending team will result in success. It's not what you spend. It's how you spend it.
If a salary cap and floor can make all teams at least competitive, that in my book would be a win. Some players may moan a lot.
A Salary floor is definitely needed. Bob Nutting in Pittsburgh will hate that. Spend Nutting, win nothing.
Sounds like he's saying baseball needs a salary cap. Top and Bottom...no more than this and no less than that. Perfect.
Only no bull-crap loopholes like in the NHL (oh look Mark Stone is conveniently back; just like Kucherov and meanwhile we signed several expensive teammates for them for when they returned oh how fortuitous was that injury eh?)
Cord cutting is beginning to take a toll. The days of charging people who don’t watch sports is rapidly coming to a close.
The desperation to drive down Juan Soto's price is palpable.
If you go back to the Winter the only free agent the Yankees signed was Luke Weaver ( one of their own). They did trade for Juan Soto and he cost $32m. Steinbrenner mentioned payroll has to come down but that signing Soto will be a priority. He can do that because there is plenty of payroll coming off the books. Torres $14m and not picking up Rizzo’s $17m and paying him $6m saves $20m. It will be like Hollywood where Tom Cruise gets millions and the guy down the credits gets peanuts. Here it will be Soto getting $50m and others maxing the minimum.
I guess I should cry into the next $14 beer they try to sell me at the ballpark after I’ve paid $50 for a ticket and $20 to park?
I am a Dodger fan. Consequently, I do not want a salary cap.
Players union will oppose a salary cap. But it ends up better for the game. Teams can’t simply buy championships & stack their roster. They have to draft well, develop talent, make good trades & don’t overpay free agents.
I have said that the independent leagues are the best. The players are un it for the game. The owners don't make a lot of money. And the fans can afford the tickets.
The Yankees have to pay out the other siblings…. Nobody from the media is talking about the fact George had 4 kids …. It’s not just one family now , it’s family 4 families
Out of all of the teams to complain about this 😂
Hal's comments aren't necessarily "wrong". With local T.V deals going away in the very near future, baseball is going to have a hard time replacing all of that revenue, especially right away. Payrolls of 300 million aren't going to be realistic in that environment.
All that being said, the Yankees are the worst team to be making that pitch, considering they seemingly are willing to open up the cheque book for every free agent on the market.
The Yankees haven’t operated like that for close to a decade now. What big money free agent signings have they brought in, in that time? Cole and Judge? The Dodgers are the team that’s always in on every single player, not the Yankees.
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The Yankees are currently spending over 50 million dollars more this season than the Dodgers.
Both have been willing to open up the value for big names, but it's not the Dodgers making these comments, is it?
@@CanadaMMA that’s only because the Dodgers deferred the Ohtani contract, lol. Which should not be allowed at all.
@@CanadaMMA Steinbrenner is making these comments in an attempt to drive down Soto’s value. It won’t work, but that’s why he’s doing it.
The CBT should be doubled or tripled to help equalize what Forbes magazine called MLB's unsustainable systemic inequities.
The value of teams is really high but the future of baseball is BLEAK to say the least. The average MLB fan is much older than the average fan of the NFL and NBA. Even soccer. In 50 years, baseball will be like boxing. Baseball players will still make tons of money but almost no one in America will care about it.
Hal HATES paying revenue sharing and Luxury tax and seeing teams like Oakland spend less on salaries that he's paying in Sharing and Luxury tax.. Maybe it's time to break up MLB and instead of 1 league (there is not separation between AL and NL now.. conferences) and put the big guys in 1 league and the chearer teams in another league and if you want thirds.. go with a 3rd league on the cheap.
It's all nonsense in some point. Because the fans are funding the product at the end of the day. Yes I get it don't pay like crazy but at the same time put a good team on the field, example The Oakland A'S, Pittsburgh Pirates, etc don't spend hardly any money so what in it for the fans
Hal Steinbrenner comments about the Yankees High Payroll explains why they agreed to start wearing a Insurance Company’s Name Patch on their Classic Uniforms. The Yankees Won’t place the Players’ names on the Uniforms and Didn’t like the NIKE Swoosh Logo on them either but the Sponsorship Revenue was needed so they relented.
Baseball is going downhill fast. You have the 10 elite teams that can spend like crazy and the bottom feeders like Fisher's A's. Tix, concessions and parking is outrageous. I'm done after the last A's game in Oakland.
Explain Mets
High Expectations & Payroll
Horrible Performance
Who's fault is that? 🤣
What happened to "free market capitalism?" lol Now they want "maximum wages" (i.e. a salary cap).
There needs to be a salary cap! Much like what's in the NHL. The cap has created parity between the have's and have not's. What the LA Dodgers did with Ohtani's contact is a disgrace in my books. Deferring his $70 million salary to prevent more luxury tax should not be allowed. If he signs a $700 million dollar 10 year contract, then his AAV should be $70 million, PERIOD!
Oakland A's fans bitch Fisher won't spend like the Dodgers, but the Dodgers have considerably more fans sitting in the seats as well as a lucrative local television package. Ditto with the Yankees. But alas, this is the Yankees owner complaining about the enormous salaries of many players. MLB needs to implement a SALARY CAP!
Didn't the Yankees be the team that inflat the income?
Why not just pay these dudes 100 million for like 5 years. I’m sure most them would take it. It’ll still be more money than they’ll make as a scientist or judge or politician with a degree even more than a doctor.
Because that’s not how this works. There’s a market set for every position by previous free agent signings. Every player wants to reset that market by becoming the highest-paid player.
@@Milehighmez15 so basically inflation
Wait...wait.... Did the NHL actually do something that works?
Implementing a salary cap might be in the future lol
Are we forgetting pandemic recovery?
We need George back
I loved George, flaws and all, but the last time his influence helped the Yankees was 1978. Everything that happened from 1994 on was in spite of George, NOT because of him. The 1980s Yankees were the same as the Yankees of 2017- now. A lot of wins, no rings. After Steinbrenner got suspended, Gene Michael and Bob Watson created the "core 4" dynasty.
I know I could care less!
I think player salaries are out of control. They are paid to much for the entertainment value they provide.
The Yankees make almost 700m a year in revenue. The majority of that should go back into player salaries it shouldn't be horded by owners who themselves provide 0 entertainment value
Tough shit. Bud should have forced a salary cap into mlb when he put the squeeze on players back in '94. And tough shit if teams can't pay their players then go bankrupt for all i care. With all those outrages contracts out there and stankees quest to outspend every team those teams are their own worst enemy. Maybe when next cba comes around manfred will squeeze out a salary cap. Keep players on the sidelines until they agree.
MLB needs an entire new economic system or it is just going to fail some teems are just going to start not caring and the fans will also. It needs to be an NFL style system where all the TV money is put into one big pot and shared equally including all the local TV money. A hard cap ie NFL style just has to be done if they want to grow the game. Fans will just lose interest if it’s the same big city clubs each year. 😊
Gee, I guess that Salary Cap and Floor that was proposed in in the 90's doesn't sound so unreasonable after all.
Take a good look Baseball fans, you fought and pouted like Hell at the idea of a Salary Cap, and now you get the league you deserve.
Literally none of us have anything to do with this. 😂
Man if only they had a lock out to fix these kind of problems