The major name brand saws have 2 be feeling the impact of the cloned saw sells. Will they do anything about it or will the clones slowly take their place? I think the clones are going 2 take over the market within the next 5yrs. With the exception of the DB Fresh people of course.👍🆙D
Hahaha, DB Fresh People 😆 I agree tho, clones are here to stay and I think if the big names want to stay in the game, they gonna have to better on their pricing. New saw prices are just plain stupid. No other way to put it. Who would have dreamed a saw would be priced at $1800-$2,000.
@@rubentrujillo2013 it has no machine work, just base gasket delete, cleaned and added a little intake duration, and clean up the exhaust port. I think it has the timing advanced a few degrees but not alot. 👍🏻
what in the heck going on here lol that joncutter seemed like it kill a stock 562 is i know jhoncutter is ported does it have original cylinder and piston or is it a big boar that thing is crazy for what it is great video dubb's smash that LIKE people
It definitely punches above its class. 👍🏻it is the oem P&C. Stock bore and stroke, even has the stock carb and filter right now. Has been Ported, timing advanced, and swapped to .325 chain. There's more in it I think with a carb swap, filter swap and machine work.
I bought one when they first co.e out Fter seeing some video on it. I put a 18" bar with .325 chain. Also added the filter up grade. I seen where you could put a bigger carb and get more out of it. Buts its a fun little saw for the $!
They for sure are fun and great little saws for the money. There is an intake adapter on ebay for about $15/$20 that allows you to adapt a 372xp carb. Works ok but mine had an air leak and i took it off and went back with the stock set up. Heck that's good enough for me. Bit of timing advance and remove the base gasket and you have a ripper. 👍🏻
Now I think I'll do the carb swap and gasket delete. I looked at a Echo 4910 yesterday. I think I'll buy another 5800 save some $ and have a better saw.
@@Mr2eyedjack the 4910 is a great saw too, they are phasing them out for the newer 4920 and it's a clamshell saw. The 4910 is full pro style saw. Either way you go tho, it'll be a good decision. The 4910 would definitely have to be ported tho, stock they just suck.
So I watched the cutter jon 7500 build, what do you charge for the machining and port work on it? Also is there a different filter available for that saw?
Maybe one day I’ll try another joncutter. I already had the 3800. And that was the worst clone saw I’ve ever had. Always something breaking on it (like the mount to hold the coil. Which is part of the case on the 3800) 😅
I would like 2 see someone with the Jon Cutter 7500 and see what it can do and what it can become. Who knows, maybe give a 372 or the 7310 a run 4 it's money👍🆙D
I've been looking at them. Just haven't pulled the trigger yet. Looks like a decent saw for the money. Plus I'm wondering how it is power wise as well.
@@dubbssawshop no video on YT of the 7500 cutting yet, probably would get a few views. I'm hoping it's a beast out of the box like it's younger brother 5800. I think yours after porting may have turned out better than Lynch's but hard 2 judge just by the videos.
I didn't see a port video? I don't have a lathe. How much can I do (my 5800 has been awesome so far) without machine work? Did you do a video showing the cylinder? Maybe just a gasket delete (haven't measured squish yet), muffler mod, and minor clean up of intake and transfers, and raise and widen the exhaust a very small amount? I mean, they run pretty good out of the box?!!!
It was before I really got comfort with the YT thing, they actually run well stock like you said, this one has no machine work because I didn't have my lathe set up then, and it runs very good like it is. I did a base gasket delete, smoothed up the rough stuff, widened the exhaust just a tad, and I believe it's set around 100 atdc, the intake was roughed up and matched to the intake adapter, and I believe it's at 80 btdc, didn't mess with the transfers, and did a timing advance(probably 3-5 degrees), opened up the baffle in the muffler, and the biggest gain was swapping it to .325 Narrow Kerf chain, makes for a ripper. Squish is about .043" after the gasket delete. You can't go far machining them due to skirt height, they will Freeport pretty quickly, not the end of the world but not recommended either. 👍🏻
@@dubbssawshop Thanks so much. Really appreciate it. Yeah, mine came with a 20" bar and .325 on it, which I think is perfect. I think I'll do the exact same thing as you, because ... well, yeah, it runs pretty good stock ... but, yours runs better, and why not.
Base gasket delete, timing advance, and ports were cleaned of cast flash, intake roughed up and exhaust smoothed but not polished. Port timing was changed maybe 1 degree due to cleaning. Just very mild port work, nothing crazy.
@Brian Kinzer it's a tad complicated to put Into words. Look up mweba1 timing advance on YT and that'll give you an idea. That's the proper way. Or you can just grind a bit off the key and roll it forward an 1/8" or so and try it. If it kicks back you went to far, dont go very far at all. A little goes a long ways.
They are great saws stock, this one has had the timing advanced, and just mild port work with a base gasket delete, and has been swapped from 3/8 to a .325 narrow kerf chain
Awesome Dubbs, father and son time is important. Saw working great also.
Yes it is. It's very easy to slip away to do your thing and not spend time with them. But you gotta make time for your family!!!!
The major name brand saws have 2 be feeling the impact of the cloned saw sells. Will they do anything about it or will the clones slowly take their place? I think the clones are going 2 take over the market within the next 5yrs. With the exception of the DB Fresh people of course.👍🆙D
Hahaha, DB Fresh People 😆 I agree tho, clones are here to stay and I think if the big names want to stay in the game, they gonna have to better on their pricing. New saw prices are just plain stupid. No other way to put it. Who would have dreamed a saw would be priced at $1800-$2,000.
got a dereal 62 cc saw it cuts good starts easy runs strong admit they do need tuning right out the box and after break in but what saw dont
Damn, that thing ripped through that stuff. Nice!
Thank you, it's definitely a heck of a running saw. 👍🏻
@@dubbssawshopI Agree it rips. Dubbs, what did you do on the mild port? I’m thinking of doing one I’ll be receiving.
@@rubentrujillo2013 it has no machine work, just base gasket delete, cleaned and added a little intake duration, and clean up the exhaust port. I think it has the timing advanced a few degrees but not alot. 👍🏻
@@dubbssawshop Thanks for getting back to me. That’s easy enough and will certainly do that to one.
@@rubentrujillo2013 Anytime man!! I appreciate you checking out the video 👍🏻
And daughter I’m his daughter and I see the behind the scenes and he does the same and he really does love his fans
Your something else sweets!!!! I love you and I'm glad you help me out when you can.
what in the heck going on here lol that joncutter seemed like it kill a stock 562 is i know jhoncutter is ported does it have original cylinder and piston or is it a big boar that thing is crazy for what it is great video dubb's smash that LIKE people
It definitely punches above its class. 👍🏻it is the oem P&C. Stock bore and stroke, even has the stock carb and filter right now. Has been Ported, timing advanced, and swapped to .325 chain. There's more in it I think with a carb swap, filter swap and machine work.
I bought one when they first co.e out Fter seeing some video on it. I put a 18" bar with .325 chain. Also added the filter up grade. I seen where you could put a bigger carb and get more out of it. Buts its a fun little saw for the $!
They for sure are fun and great little saws for the money. There is an intake adapter on ebay for about $15/$20 that allows you to adapt a 372xp carb. Works ok but mine had an air leak and i took it off and went back with the stock set up. Heck that's good enough for me. Bit of timing advance and remove the base gasket and you have a ripper. 👍🏻
Now I think I'll do the carb swap and gasket delete. I looked at a Echo 4910 yesterday. I think I'll buy another 5800 save some $ and have a better saw.
@@Mr2eyedjack the 4910 is a great saw too, they are phasing them out for the newer 4920 and it's a clamshell saw. The 4910 is full pro style saw. Either way you go tho, it'll be a good decision. The 4910 would definitely have to be ported tho, stock they just suck.
So I watched the cutter jon 7500 build, what do you charge for the machining and port work on it? Also is there a different filter available for that saw?
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Maybe one day I’ll try another joncutter. I already had the 3800. And that was the worst clone saw I’ve ever had. Always something breaking on it (like the mount to hold the coil. Which is part of the case on the 3800) 😅
Dang that sucks, I've herd the 38 and 4500 are not to great. The 5800 has been awesome so far.
I would like 2 see someone with the Jon Cutter 7500 and see what it can do and what it can become. Who knows, maybe give a 372 or the 7310 a run 4 it's money👍🆙D
I've been looking at them. Just haven't pulled the trigger yet. Looks like a decent saw for the money. Plus I'm wondering how it is power wise as well.
@@dubbssawshop no video on YT of the 7500 cutting yet, probably would get a few views. I'm hoping it's a beast out of the box like it's younger brother 5800. I think yours after porting may have turned out better than Lynch's but hard 2 judge just by the videos.
This saw was on Black Friday sale for $38 and I missed it.
I got in on that. Bought 2 of those plus a g288 also on sale. All came to $350 shipped, from Farmertec.
Right now you can get all five of the joncutter saws shipped for 380. I'm seriously thinking of pulling the trigger and getting them for project saws.
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I didn't see a port video? I don't have a lathe. How much can I do (my 5800 has been awesome so far) without machine work? Did you do a video showing the cylinder? Maybe just a gasket delete (haven't measured squish yet), muffler mod, and minor clean up of intake and transfers, and raise and widen the exhaust a very small amount? I mean, they run pretty good out of the box?!!!
It was before I really got comfort with the YT thing, they actually run well stock like you said, this one has no machine work because I didn't have my lathe set up then, and it runs very good like it is. I did a base gasket delete, smoothed up the rough stuff, widened the exhaust just a tad, and I believe it's set around 100 atdc, the intake was roughed up and matched to the intake adapter, and I believe it's at 80 btdc, didn't mess with the transfers, and did a timing advance(probably 3-5 degrees), opened up the baffle in the muffler, and the biggest gain was swapping it to .325 Narrow Kerf chain, makes for a ripper. Squish is about .043" after the gasket delete. You can't go far machining them due to skirt height, they will Freeport pretty quickly, not the end of the world but not recommended either. 👍🏻
@@dubbssawshop Thanks so much. Really appreciate it. Yeah, mine came with a 20" bar and .325 on it, which I think is perfect. I think I'll do the exact same thing as you, because ... well, yeah, it runs pretty good stock ... but, yours runs better, and why not.
Is that the saw you had at Hopper Fest?
It is. I made a few slight changes to the timing and swapped to a .325 Narrow Kerf chain instead of the 3/8,
What did you do to “mild port” the saw?
Base gasket delete, timing advance, and ports were cleaned of cast flash, intake roughed up and exhaust smoothed but not polished. Port timing was changed maybe 1 degree due to cleaning. Just very mild port work, nothing crazy.
@@dubbssawshop how did you do the timing adjustment?I’d like to do the same with my g272 clone saw
@Brian Kinzer it's a tad complicated to put Into words. Look up mweba1 timing advance on YT and that'll give you an idea. That's the proper way. Or you can just grind a bit off the key and roll it forward an 1/8" or so and try it. If it kicks back you went to far, dont go very far at all. A little goes a long ways.
@@dubbssawshop awesome thanks a lot
I believe its not 58cc. I think its 54cc so its evan more impressive now.
Is that a good saw stock
They are great saws stock, this one has had the timing advanced, and just mild port work with a base gasket delete, and has been swapped from 3/8 to a .325 narrow kerf chain