Can a Ruger 10-22 be competitive? Precision rifle shooting
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- I say no, but welcome your comments below. Chapter markers below. This is just a quick swap of some common ruger 10-22 parts and then a simple ammo comparison at 50 yards to see what kind of results we get for the money. Can you buy an accurate and competitive Ruger 10-22 or should you save up and buy custom from the start? Precision rifle shooting.
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They can be, _if_ you find the right ammo and do a little trick called "torque tuning" on the action/takedown screw. That screw is the biggest Achilles Heel of the 10/22, because there's only ONE without a second one in the rear of the action! It creates a pivot point that alters your barrel harmonics/accuracy. They make kits to drill and tap a rear action screw, but that can be tricky too. Instead... take that Wheeler fat wrench and try shooting groups @ 10,20 and 30 inch pounds on that screw and you'll be _surprised_ at your differences in group sizes! Then try going back again and split the difference which torque direction it shot better, either 15 or 25 inch pounds and shoot groups again.👍
I've seen this done. I agree. In fact I think I'll do a follow up video on this rifle and I'll do that method. Thanks!
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork no worries@ If you really wanna nail it down you could even go to 2 inch lb increments too.
Mc aye ver, like the show? Anyways, saw a video on that. Been meaning to get a robot screwdriver. Might get one for this summer, what pound " should I start before I look for the sweet spot on my 10/22?
I've noticed this to make a huge difference in grouping size with mine. I found my sweet spot to be 14inlbs, and even as little as a full inch pound higher or lower makes a difference.
Victor Company's stock for the 10/22 has the ability to apply pressure to the tang. And they have a kit that basically stabs the rear of the receiver to remove that pivot from the solo action screw.
I have two custom built 10/22s that I shot 3 position 50 yard with I made it back to worlds 6 years in a row with them never placing out of the top ten every year and I won my scholarships those guns they are the reason I was able to afford to go to college
Dude that’s awesome!
Appreciate the video man I loved this content when you do this type of stuff. Federal Gold Medal Match has been less than stellar for me also. Now the Federal Gold Medal UltraMatch on the other hand was awesome. Unfortunately they stopped making it many years ago.
Thanks for watching sir!
I’ve got an X ring receiver and barrel I built using a 2stage Kidd and the KRG bravo with full length arca rail and tripod mini spigot. Using an arken ep5 5-25x56 scope and it’s an absolute dream to shoot. I love stretching it out. It’s a great setup for sure. I also got the bravo butt pad and it’s very much worth buying
Your problem is likely the action sliding around in the chassis. KRG makes an excellent product, but the 1022 either needs some extra hacks to lock it down, or a softer stock material to dig into.
would have been neat to see how it shot before the mods to measure against baseline. a lot more time, $, effort though I get it.
shot my KIDD 10/22 at a PRS match this weekend and took home first place in the first time shooter category out of three us. I was the only one shooting a semi-auto and we shot targets out to 200 yards. I have the KIDD rear tang in place and had a magpul hunter stocked milled to receive the rear tang screw. Its a tack driver. Great video!
Your KIDD 10/22 looks to be the ticket for shooting PRS semiautomatic. Congrats on the win!
Kidds are awesome run a Kidd trigger in one of my 3 10/22 I have had better accuracy benchrest with the Volquartsen Barrel but Tony Kidd makes some some reat products and rifles.
I use the KIDD trigger group…it’s outstanding
Thanks, the video I was looking for.
Just buy a Kidd heavy 16 or 18 inch non fluted Matt barrel, no threading, a Kidd 2 stage trigger and a set of springs for your new Kidd bolt and rod and be done with it. That will give you all the accuracy you need if fitted properly.
One of my favourite bits of design selection is the times companies decide to use larger screws and match all/most of the screws across all of an item so you can use a very limited selection to do everything ! The bits of kit that have dozens of small screws are a major pain
Yes. I agree.
I want to do this now! THANKS!
great video - would have been nice if you have shot groups with the old setup so one could compare if its worth the money to do the upgrade
Yep that’s fair. I should have.
Exactly what I was thinking at the beginning, how do we compare it? The stock he had was an upgrade already.
My 22lr competiting started with a rigger 10/22. I had over 1,000 into that rifle only thing left that was rugger was the receiver. Everything was Kidds inovation. I held my own comps believe or not (i didnt know a whole lot about nrl22 but i hought an nrl 22 target setup etc). After about 2 comps shooting eley i ditch the rugger and bought a rimx. In my opinion a semi out rimfire will never be able to keep up with most decent factory bolt action 22lr rifle. 10/22s have their place but it's not in comps with 1inch targets at 100 yards etc.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
I modified my 10/22s .. the only original parts I kept was the receiver and bolt..Shoots great.. I’d like to either design and cut a receiver for a savage type barrel nut .
agree, they are super fun to mod. thanks for watching.
Send that barreled action with trigger to Randy at CPC. For $250 he cut my groups in half even Aguila super extra ammo shoots better then what I saw there. With CCI standard it shoots 10 shot 1/2” groups and 3/8” with green tag at 50yrds wearing a 3-9x scope nothing fancy. The gun isn’t picky at all it eats everything still. No parts get put in a box never to be used, he is a outstanding gunsmith that makes factory 10/22’s competitive for silhouette or whatever. Best money I’ve ever spent on a gun and got it back in less than a month too. I like the stock the gun needs some fine tuning is all. Cheers
Wolf Match is Really Good Shooting Ammo . Ammo makes MORE of an improvement than some component changes.
Git er Done !
Wolf Match is Eley Club/Target. Same ammo, different name.
Try the 10/22 custom shop. Shoots under half inch groups at 50 all day. Did the KYL rack at 50. 8 shots, 8 hits, last one 1/4 inch. So, yes, 10/22 with a good trigger shoots very well. SK long range.
Have the Titan stock. Zero wobble. Also has the anchor kit on the reqr for two screws instead of one. Twice the torque. Also with a Green Mountain barrel. Hits the 10, 🎯.
I think the bullets are nice and warm in the house and when you shoot them out into the cold air, they start shivering travelling with that terrible wind chill down to the target.
Interesting video for sure. I will add that I've shot Federal Gold Match (through some old Marlin 80DL Bolt Action Rifles (that were made back when there were no Serial Numbers put on these firearms), and I've had very good results from it... At the end of the day it really does come down to what your firearm likes (ammo wise) - but that's a given with all firearms... Great video, and thanks for putting it together! There's good information to be had here!
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback.
That last ammo was legit
I have a 1967 model with walnut stock and aluminum receiver.
Given the cold weather, excellent filming and editing! After watching this, I will probably add a torque screw driver and some sand bags. My 10/22 is modified for walkin' around. Who knows? I may build another.
Thanks for watching. 10/22's are super fun, no doubt about it.
I like that original stock. Kinda reminds me of the Marlin 450 I had to hunt with as a kid my dad got me. Unfortunately sold it during some bad times and pray I can get another eventually but they're not that east to come across and the newer marlin wasn't the same. I'll probably have to end up getting a Henry of some kind
Your experience with Federal ammo is like mine, and is the reason I, and many of the people I know, never shoot the brand.
Yep. Sucks.
Hi Joel, I’ve been having some issues with SK rifle match lately. Lots of fliers and underpowered rounds. Love your channel.
Thanks for watching!
SK usually does pretty well for me, but I might have to admit that Eley shoots consistently better. 🤦🏻♂️
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork lol, I think it depends on the day of the week it was made, what rifle your shooting it through, how bad the wind is and how much coffee you drank before you shot it. These damn rifles are like Women, finicky and you can never spend enough on them!
@@RimfireSS 😂 truth
nice video ,thanks mate.
No problem 👍
I put mine in a boyds thumb hole laminated wood stock with a green mountain bull barrel and boyds trigger spring gide rod and bolt spring kit's topped off with a nice glass I'm getting have inch group's at 50 haven't had the room to get it out to 100 yet but i think it will do great
Cool. Thanks for watching.
Did you season the bore with the ammo before shooting on paper? That might help too!
Two things-1 Fed GM Match does suck. 2 because you’re “not committed to the process” you’re ammo group info is worthless. You don’t need to scrub the bore but you do need to run at least ten rounds when you switch ammo or you’re wasting your time even looking at the groups.
Thanks. I’m aware. Which is why I said the “hard core 22 shooters” were going to cringe because I wasn’t doing all those things.
At some point I might do a video comparing accuracy between this rifle and other 22’s I have.
My 10/22 target with krg and brx trigger with a factory barrel shoots fairly well at 50yds.
Cool. I think there are some that are fairly accurate. For sure money can be spent to make them better.
The ultimates section of the Rimfire Central forum has many examples of 10/22 rifles that can shoot near 1/4" groups at 100 yards off a bench. You just have to bring the gun up to spec and get an accurate barrel. The brand of the barrel is less important that the qualities of the individual barrel. It's easier with a bolt gun but you can do it with a modified 10/22 if a shooter does his part.
If you want accuracy I would suggest pulling that suppressor off. they collect carbon and when you carry the rifle with the muzzle pointed up, carbon can fall back down into the bore and effect accuracy. If you are trying to mess with barrel harmonics then get a barrel tuner.
What kind of fuddlore is this? 😂😂😂
I use a Kidd barrel and a Magpul stock. Put ten rounds inside a dime at 50 yards consistently.
I’ve heard those barrels are legit.
I really like the krg stock but have a question. Im left-handed and curious if that black knob can be moved to the othef side of the stock or is therd a smaller knob.
If anyone is interested in saving time and money building up a 10/22, order yourself a Kidd Innovations barrel and trigger, then drop it into a Victor Titan stock. I played with one of my 10/22's for ages, adding all sorts of different combinations. Once i found the combinations i liked, i duplicated the setup on my second 10/22, and as expected i yielded similar results. Now both of my 10/22's shoot dime size groups at 50yrds and they arent finicky about ammo, just an impact shift when switching between brands that are good, like CCI. Even Federal Automatch shot very well.
I will agree with you about the Federal premium gold match, it's a terrible investment.
Thanks for watching
Man I have had my 10/22 since 1987 got it for Xmas that year
They are super fun rifles!
I bought both the KRG stock and the tactical solutions barrel and I sent both back for a refund after 1 trip to the range.
That’s a bummer
DID You follow the KRG torq spec?
What made you return them? What sort of results did you get that made you not want them? Or at least not see the benefits from the price paid? I have 2 tac Sol
Barrels and they’re excellent. As well as my 10/22 using a tacsol receiver and barrel setup in the bravo chassis and it’s a total tack driver for 22lr especially
@@MrTylero28 I had the rifle in a McMillon Anschuts stock for 10 plus years. I wanted a change and I fell for the whole chassie system craze and bought the KRG. I hated the thing from the time I took it out of the box. The KRG exterior was a quality control nightmare, sharp edges at the seem between the two injection molds. The interior aluminum bedding reminded me of an "Erector Set" .
The tacsolution barrel was the worst shooting barrel I ever owned. short light barrels don't shoot.
@@PassionforRifles the takedown screw would not stay tight I even added a split lock washer.
What scope jig are you using at the 5:00 minute mark? It looks very handy!!!
It's called the Dead Level from Badger Ordnance
In a semi auto, there’s SK Lapua, and Norma, and little else (for me) nice vid 👍
Cool, thanks
The KRG Stock looks good, but I prefer the Thumb Hole stock over the KRG, just my preference...
Cool. Thanks for the comment.
Those groups are what I'm getting out of my Volquartsen THM carbon barrel, except for the last group. It sucks. Is your barrel fully free floated in that chassis? I am searching for answers and a few have said there needs to be a pressure point near the end of the stock, or even fully bedded to the end of the stock.
My reciever to barrel fit was very tight, I had to heat up the reciever to install, so I don't think that is where my issues are.
Still searching, why I'm here!
Funny. Used Remington Nylon66 I bought , with open sights and cheap ammo from S&B makes like the best group on 50 meters.
Glad you found something that works! Cheers.
Was that red loctite on the scope base screws?
Hello, what was the brand and model for the original stock?! Really like the look of it
Thanks
Email me, I’ll sell you mine.
Joel@precisionriflenetwork.com
I think it’s made by Boyds.
I'm in Canada, would it ship over here?!
Magnum research is a one stop shop on having a complete competitive 10/22 style rifle 😊
Thanks for the tip.
...I've got brown laminate version of that stock - bought it waay back in the 90s...
yeah mine's old too. I like it. It's nice to the touch and it looks good. Was just time to make a change. Thanks for watching.
...I think that at the time I bought it, it was a Fajen stock...@@PrecisionRifleNetwork
Fun video.
My first one had a few refinements...leading to 5 CCI standards in 1/4 inch at 50 yards on a good day...Stock gun, right out of the box,, don't expect a lot...
The wind is moving the target some
i thought the 10/22 could work but have since changed my mind. it seems i always shoot a better score with a bolt action
Facts. Most people can’t shoot semiautomatic as well as they can bolt action.
Very nice video ..... Those were some pretty ugly groups up until the Eley match ...... That is a very nice looking stock ...... I built me a custom 10/22 last year and used the Victor Titan22 stock and it is an absolute keeper ...... If you put a KIDD barrel with a better trigger I think it would be a tack driver.
Did you ever get this thing to group? Did you do the torque tuning? Did you try longer ranges?? I just ordered a 10/22 Competition, so can't wait to see how it does from 50 out to 200 yards.
Rangers... Lead the Way!
I sold this particular rifle. let me know how your competition rig performs.
My Ruger 1022 LVT groups 1/4” or less with Eley Match……Good Stuff
Thanks for watching
When she was 8 years old my granddaughter shot my 10-22 bull barrel for the first time. After proper instructions in breathing, trigger control, rifle and range safety she promptly shot 100-8X on 15 yard target at 25 yards. Yes, the 1022 can be accurate. I have a picture of the target to prove it.
“Accurate” I agree. Truly competitive in 22 precision rifle competitions…I have yet to see that Rug10/22.
LOL Same with my daughter. I’m shocked she didn’t try to take it with her when she moved out 😂
Love it 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you! Cheers!
Similar results with Federal Gold Medal Match...CCI Green Tag even worse...Eley Match & Tenex is all I shoot at this point.
Be sure safety is "centered" before pulling it out to not do damage to stock
That KRG chassis looks awesome. Is it compatible with 10/22 Magnum? I was looking at getting an action/barrel from Volquartsen but really wanted it on this KRG stock.
Thanks.
I’m not sure if it’s compatible with magnum. Sorry.
Might need to check with KRG.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork For anyone else watching, I just heard back from KRG and that stock is not compatible with the 10/22 magnum receiver. Too bad, that's a nice stock and I already have an Oryx for my standard 10/22.
Nice 10/22 build ..mine has a 28 inch green mountain barrel shoot real nice ..
GM makes some awesome barrels, and that 28" one is no joke! Super quiet too.
My 20" Green Mtn SS sporter Barrel with, a Lil' Crow Gunworks, Recoil Lug ( Glass Bedded ) in, a "Sporter" Ruger Walnut stock,.. shoots Awesome ( .3's and .4's at 50 yards) with, SK and Wolf, Match Extra, ammo. I have also done, a Volquartzen Trigger Job at, 2.25 Pounds and have a 4.5 X 14 Burris scope.
Slightly Used Rifle and ALL parts / Scope for,.. a Total of $850
Looks like an outstanding product. I especially like that it comes with an Arca-Swiss plate. I only wish that they would make a 10/22 takedown stock, as well as, one for the mini-14. I also did not know that the Badger Ordnance Dead Level Reticle Leveling Tool was even a thing. I'm not a PRS participant, but I learn so much watching this channel. Loving the content!
Thanks for watching!
Yes, a well built 10/22 with good components can be/is a competitive precision rifle. Recently I built a Kidd Inovations based 10/22 clone. Yields consitent MOA or less groups at 100 yards. Have yet to go 200 or 300yards. But have confidence as long as wind isn't too great a factor.
cool thanks for commenting.
Federal Ultra-match UM22 (no longer made) shoots sub-moa for me all day long. The Gold Medal stuff was not as good for me.
I’ve always been told not to use my torque wrench to loosen anything as it will throw off its calibration. I don’t know if it’s true or not.
Hmm I’ve never heard that but I suppose it could be a thing.
Would be interesting to see the same test with a better trigger!
agree, unfortunately I don't have this rifle anymore. thanks for watching.
I have a late 70's 10/22 I refinished and put a cheap walmart scope on and shoots 1/2" MOA with ELEY ammo. Pulled it out after a year in the safe, same ammo, same results. Still haven't cleaned it. Just a classic .22LR. I even have the Tasco oval scope it came with still. If you don't mind saving me some research time, how much would your set up run a guy?
The KRG Bravo is $350ish. Tactical solutions Barrel was around $250 maybe?? It’s been a long time.
The Leupold scope is $1800.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork oof, that's alot of scope for 50yrds, lol. Thank you for replying.
I think it would be cool to use my factory rifle and then use the mods to see how much of a difference in accuracy and consistency. That would be alot of fun!
@PrecisionRifleNetwork do you think brand of barrel makes that much of a difference? Seems to favor type of ammo, quality ammo versus cheap ammo. What am I asking, consistent loaded ammo, better results?
@@bendayhoe5199 Could be a tough day with no wind! LOL
I have competed against high end Anschutz, and other custom bolt guns and own some my self BR comp shooting buy I have won many matches with a 10/22 With a quality match barrel, trigger in a proper stock, Barrel Tunner with bloop tube and a rock solid tourney rest a good 10/22 will surprise you. If you do not know how to properly setup and tune one then they are average shooters. And not all barrels are created equal. Also shooting match quality ammo is a MUST for someone serious. I have 3 Match 10/22s and have one that just will outshoot my Begara and Anschutz consistently. Why that 1 its the barrel.All things the same swap barrels then both my Anshutz and Begara will smoke it. It has a SS Snake Fluted Volquartsen and its the only one out of three 10/22 all will Volquartsens that finds a hamony shooting Eley match ammo and shines.
I have definitely seen them shoot well, but every single time it's because the owner put a ton of money into it to get it to do that. I guess that was my point with this video...at what point do you just spend the money initially to buy a custom bolt action and be done with it?
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork your absolutely correct it takes a lot of time and money to get them that accurate and a bolt gun would be the same or cheaper in the end.
Bottom right 2nd shot kinda weird glitch there
What is the objective lens diameter and what height warne rings did you use?
That little scope was probably 44mm or something like that and I always run medium rings when I can.
Well I think your crazy, I went to my 1st benchrest match and shot against only bolt action rifles and I took 3rd place. The only upgrades i have is a ER Shaw barrel. some trigger work and cleaned the bolt. I used Ealey tennex and Ealey Match. And she shot pretty good. My next upgrade will be a KIDD bolt.
haha you've made some serious upgrades. of course it shot well.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork I wouldn't call them serious upgrades. I didn't put in a custom trigger, I didn't change the bolt, It's a stock receiver, stock chassis. A 125.00 barrel and smoothing the stock trigger isn't serious upgrades.
P.s. you should see the mini 14 i have
The factory barrels aren't bad. Hammer forged on a mandrel, they can be pretty good. Generally have to get pretty spend-y to beat them. There is A LOT of paid review marketing telling us a barrel swap is the first thing to do. So you might find my opinion in the minority. But proper bedding is more important. Bedding can turn a dog into a real shooter even in the factory wood stock. A pencil barrel might look out of place in a chassis though.
Well there is a semi-auto division in PRS Rimfire competitions now. So...
three years ago i bought a tactial solutions carbon fiber barrel for a new build added a hough stock a kidd bolt a sweet 22 scope and the best groupe i got from that rifle was a inch and a half group at fifty yards i tried 11 diffarent brands of 22lr i bought a boyds stock nada i put the new rugger bolt back in it nope i putt the kidd bolt back and the new never fired ruger barrel in it and it shot dime sized groupd at fifty when i called tactical the rep said not there problem i will never recomend their products that barrel cost 300 bucks after shipping i bought a green mouintain barrel for hundred bucks it shot 1/4 inch at fifty with bulk fedrial hp
yeah I'm finding similar results. Not a very good barrel.
What's your range with the .22LR? Why a 20 MOA base for a short distance caliber?
Competitors are regularly shooting 22's out to 400 yards these days. hence the 20moa base. Also 20moa bases are kinda industry standard on all precision rifles these days, regardless of caliber. thanks for watching.
The reason 22 target rifles are bolt/single shot is the bolt thrust when fired is consistent. A semi-auto recoils to work the action-it is not 100% consistent in recoil/movement of the bolt----using green tag cci helps as the ignition is more consistent, but is not a miracle maker-the fact is most people cannot shoot well enough to reach the full potential of the rifle-Buy a true target rifle and be amazed-shoot the eye out of a fly.
Thanks for the comment
Great video. Love the products you're showing. But something I can't let go without comment: at time 0:58 there is a shot of the garage door behind you. To the right of the garage door, there is an American Flag, wadded up, and left leaning against the edge of the door. Several times later, from 0:58 to 7:33, we again see the American Flag in that position. I also want to say, that particular detail should matter to you. I hope it does. I hope you'll do better next time you take an American Flag down, at your residence.
It’s rolled up around the pole and held in a way as to not touch the ground. The only time it doesn’t fly at my house is when it’s dark or bad weather.
Are you suggesting I’m not a patriot because I don’t triangle fold the flag every night?
So how did it shoot prior to the upgrades???
Honestly about the same
Nice unit. I like mine also 👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
Absolutely it can. My 10/22 is from a former F Class national champ. It's a heavy barreled model 01262, with the bolt carrier and action polished.
cool, thanks for watching.
what target cam are you using?
Long Shot Target Camera
Lots of good comments here. Very true about optimizing the action screw torque.
-- I have a 1995 10/22 Target with the original hammer-forged barrel and its nice wood stock. Rather heavy. I had the Ruger bolt redone by CPC (Connecticut Precision Chambering), and installed the Kidd recoil spring and guide rod and the Kidd "Trigger Job" drop-in trigger kit. So for the gun + about $180 I have a 0.5 MOA gun at 100 yards. No kidding, pardon the pun. ;-) Shot two 5-shot groups at 100 yards with SK Pistol Match Special. First group was .70". Second was .50". Decided to not shoot any more groups as I was ecstatic with that result. This 10/22 humiliates all my bolt-action 22s, including two nice CZs.
-- Strongly recommend you send your barreled action to CPC for the full tuneup. Bolt, trigger and barrel. THE best bang-for-buck in 10/22 improvement, IMO. You will love the improvement. Also IMO, what stock the action is in is the last consideration, to be done after all other mods are made. BTW the scope on the 10/22 for the above two groups was a $60 Chinese scope off Amazon, set at 24X. I used a cheap bipod and a rear bag.
Appreciate the comment.
Thanks for watching.
My 1022 with old Tacsol barrel, Volquartsen trigger kit(3lbs), X22 Magpul stock, and shooting CCI standard velocity, i got .4 inch at 50yds. Im kinda surprised at your results with seemingly much better ammo. My 1022 shoots tighter than my RPRimfire at the moment, testing ammo right now.
My best groups with my Tacsol barrel is with CCI STD is also the best, with about .4 as well. I'm really happy that bit hates the expensive stuff.
@@CompShooter54 nice! Im happy with it...then i saw Pursuit of Accuracy's review on the Kidd Supergrade, now im going to save for one of those!
I am really thinking about building a 10-22 at some point. Does anyone have experience with the Brownells action? I'm thinking a heavier target gun. I really want a Volqortzen but not really in budget. It would be a fun project and a nice addition to my customized Savage Mk2. And I'm glad I'm not the only one GMM shoots like crap for. Which is odd since their centerfire stuff is really good.
I used a Brownells action and Feddersen barrel. It shoots lights out! However, I would recommend getting the version with out the built in pic rail. It is flat, and I would prefer to have some elevation built into it.
No 1st hand experience with the Brownell's action, but on all the 10/22 forums I've been in over the years I haven't heard a single bad thing about them, they're a solid choice for a top notch action.
As far as the Volquartsen barrels go though, IMHO they tend to be kinda overrated. _IF_ you can even find one in stock, the best shooting barrels I've seen for the money are from Green Mountain. Their 20" .920 blued bull barrels with a 1:16 twist shoot lights out (as in dime size groups at 50y) and are only about $150. They even have a crazy 28" long 10/22 bull barrel that shoots even better, but you'd want to have the stock glass bedded including the entire barrel channel too so you don't get "barrel droop". It's so long that it makes subs shoot almost as quiet as with a suppressor, great for a squirrel rifle.
The "blued" barrels specifically last longer than the stainless ones too, as stainless has "softer" chromium added into the steel alloy so the rifling is harder and stays sharper longer in the blued carbon steel barrels.
Whistle pig and E.R. Shaw also make some pretty awesome barrels but Green Mountain is what I've seen shoot best.
Thanks. I might grab one. I guess I now need to learn how to buy a gun online. I've never done it.
@@bmstylee it's a fairly straightforward process. You just need to find a local FFL/gun shop that will to "transfers" ahead of ordering from Brownell's and enter that FFL's number on the order info page. Not all FFL's do transfers and some places charge more than others too, so call a few local dealers and ask what they charge! I forget how much my last transfer was, like $30? Some charge a lot more than that so I'd shop around. After you pick an FFL, drop by that dealer and they'll help get things rolling.
@@macgyver5108i have read F.J FEDDERSEN BARRELS ARE THE TICKET!
If you change all but the action is it still a 10 /22?
valid question.
The stock forged barrel is more accurate than the tactical solutions barrel, and ER Shaw barrels are more accurate than both of those.
I’ve heard good things about Shaw.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Tactical solutions are great for a lightweight race gun, but not for precision target shooting.
Put a full choke in
Looks like that barrel is irredeemable. If none of them will give you several sub inch 5x groups then you know the barrel needs to go
I think I agree with you. That rifle got taken to an FFL dealer for consignment recently. I don't have time for guns that don't shoot. I have other better 22's so this was an easy choice.
Cci 36g varmit out of a 10/22 with heavy barrel sr22. Flies at 50. Wasp at 100
Thanks for watching
I got spanked by one the other day!!! It was a fluke but still funny as hell. It shot 3 inch groups at sight in and then didnt missed for the whole match.
LOL crazy
You want to shoot competition with a 10/22 just buy the Kidd super grade from the start and save yourself a lot of headaches if you want to try to be competitive.
What scope is that??
Bushnell AR optics 1-8x
I would say that even if your wooden stock does not shoot any better as far as looks goes I would switch back to the wooden stock I think it is 100% better looking than that can stock which looks cheap I would stick with the other one all day
I agree, the wood looks better. The issue is adjustability. The KRG can be better tuned to my length of pull and cheek height.
yep the new one sucks christ its just a very low power .22lr .these 22 shooter s are all wimps looking to play big boy center fire ..never see them shoot .17hmr at 2600fps and 300 yards + ..
@@katana258 i would say you haven’t been looking hard enough. 22LR beyond 300y is very common now.
@@katana258 🤣 okay kiddo. Tell me you haven't a clue without telling me.
@@katana258 like lobbing tiny little cannons in a big arc down range. This concept must have come from rifle accessory manufacturers and ammo makers.😂😂😂😂😂
The whole point of the stock is for a rear tang.
never had great accuracy from my tac-sol barrel....
agree, they are not amazing from what I've seen.
when you torque anything give specks
Nah. I’ve found all that does is cause people to argue. Legit, freaking people will argue about a difference of ten inch pounds. I can say that I torque all scope rings to 25 in. lbs. and somebody will come unglued about that. I don’t need the drama, so now I leave that out.
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For many years I shot 3 position rifle with Anshutz rifles and I think you can improve your groups with a better shooting position. You seem to be all cramped up and not looking through the center of your eye. If you have a more upright, relaxed position I'll bet your groups would improve.
Using a torque wrench to loosen screws is not recommended.
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I'm shooting one and a half inch MOA at 100 yd with a bone stock 10/22, a BX trigger, a Magpul stock and a 4 to 12 vortex scope. That gun of yours should be doing way better.
I agree
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork fire it from a fixture and see what you get. I've got a new hack I'm trying out: I'm putting polymer clay in a rear bag so I can lay it on the bench, squeeze it up and it'll hold its shape far better than sand. Not sure how it will work and it is 2 lb but I want to see if I can get something better than a rear bag that's commercially available or just a plain old sandbag. Polymer clay stays ductile until you heat it to 280°. Also, I might be looking at a new stock for my 5.56 ranch rifle. While I don't mind the stock it has, I need a way better platform for the barreling action. Nonetheless, I'm shooting one and a half inches at 100 yd with that, as well! When I can stack the shots , I'll start moving out.