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Seriously why do people give a shit what Neville and Carragher say, they are part of the overall problem. They should be sacked and Var should be scrapped.
They are clearly schills for PGMOL.
cos they have a massive following and their opinions carry with a lot of people including the media outlets
Neville talking about how you can't call in to question the integrity of the game, when the decisions these referee's and VAR make week in and week out has made people more suspicious of corruption and dodgy behaviour than fans have ever been.
And why can't you call into question the integrity of the game? why is that such a bad thing to do? If you're worried your girls cheating on you and ask to check her phone, and all of a sudden she starts screaming, shouting and throwing insults at you, saying "how dare you question me" she's already given you the answer, this reaction from Sky and Mainstream media in general, tells you all you need to know about what's going on behind the scenes, they just switch to immediate gaslighting, as they need to control the narrative, just like with the Super League
They are working within so they will never go against it
Yo care clown 😅😅😅
How can anyone say you can't question an officials integrity when Mike Dean admitted he deliberately made a wrong decision in a game last season to help his mate out? That sort of stuff obviously goes on. Mike Dean let the cat out the bag
It doesn’t take a genius to see pundits are defending the pgmol. Broadcasters have meetings with pgmol it’s a disgrace and if they were not on the payroll they wouldn’t be saying this
The Sky pundits have definitely been briefed to defend the referees by the FA.
Definitely I agree. You can see the difference between the beginning of the season when the pundits was really criticising the mistakes. But now it’s excuses and deflections
The Establishment will always back itself, Sky will always protect the PL and the FA, The FA and SKY are the reason the PL even exists to begin with, they literally created the PL to weaken the EFL's power over English Football.
Expecting any sort of neutrality from Sky is ridiculous, look at how different Carragher is on CBS compared to Sky, they're mouthpieces of the establishment, why do you think Neville and Sky were so opposed to the Super League.
@@MasterIceyy the Super League is also an absolutely terrible idea though. We don't and never will want it.
UEFA are also looking like they're going to ruin the UCL so they can milk a bit more money out of a increased amount of games.
@@RD-zx6py Oh I agree with the super league being stupid, I was just using it as an example of how the FA, PL and the media protect one another.
Not that the Super League mattered because then UEFA just turned the champions league into a Super League anyway
@@MasterIceyy UEFA and FIFA are two of the most corrupt institutions on the planet.
BBC was totally limp on MOTD also. That's the last time I watch it. Not a Forest fan - it was nauseating to watch 3 smug and wrong blokes cashing their cheques for being dishonest.
What did you Think of Saha’s comments? He was spot on and Jamie and Gary almost like ganged up on him defending the refs it’s weird.
Neville should be sacked. Carragher should be cancelled for spitting on girl. Yet it’s the sensible ppl who get cancelled.
Fair play Terry. Props for keeping your integrity and continuing to call out these absurdities 👊🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This post is right on the money, these media shills remind me of Politicians with their snouts in the trough. The PGMOL should be accountable, these discussions should be live, fully transparent, no room for doubt or doctoring
Forest fan here - well done for speaking the truth. NFFC comms were clearly driven by emotions when that original tweet was sent out, but for goodness sake, someone needs to stand up in all of this.
This was a great video, big up!
Even in England we used to ensure that match officials with a conflict of interest were not appointed to all matches.
Once Hackett went this changed and it is absolutely the wrong way to do things. Why should the officials be immune from accountability.
Carragher and Neville are an absolute disgrace and both should resign with immediate effect.
As fans we were sold that VAR would cut out mistakes. If anything it's made us more suspicious of curruption. Untill the VAR decisions are broadcast into stadiums then these accusations will continue
They have those huge ass screens, and can't show any VAR replays on them, they have stadium wide speakers but can't broadcast the conversations between the VAR and the on field referee.
In Cricket they have real time ball prediction technology, in the NFL and rugby the stadium here's and see's what the referee see's and says, but the PL, and FA keep fighting against these things, look how they fought against the automatic offside technology
@@MasterIceyy agreed if they have nothing to hide then there is no reason whatsoever why we can't hear and see what decisions are being made. It's about time as fans we had accountability for bad decisions made.
The offside decision is exactly why var was brought in. In that instance var got it right, but because it's not the decision that some people want they criticize var, them kind of people should never be trusted they are willing to sacrifice integrity & fairness to get their desired outcome. Do not get rid of var, if we do it will only help them who deliberately get it wrong.
Should do like they do in cricket
VAR Sheds more light on it and makes things more transparent. Don't scrap it, that would make it easier to cheat !
Carra and Neville the epitome of company men. Forest were absolutely robed of at least 2 penalties and Mike Deans commentary as to whether they were the correct decisions or not was a disgrace. These clowns need to eff off!!!
The fans who watch football in pubs are MUCH more HONEST therefore have better opinions than Carragher & Neville combined! Oh but none of us could EVEN get their jobs cause we don’t know the right people FFS! 🤯
Carragher and Neville's views are not really their own but the views of their employer whether they agree or not money talks not a shred of integrity between them
Skysports kept calling for VAR, the fans never wanted it & never asked for it. Now, with all the controversy, they are still trying to justify this.
As for the referees, we have had a Man Utd fan ref a Liverpool v Man Utd game with the cover of supporting a 2nd division club. There is no problem with referees supporting teams, nobody cares unless they are vocal.
Carragher just keeps taking Ls
I am fed up of Carra & Neville backing these officals. Its us fans that pay their bloody wages. I am fed up of officals hiding bwhind it has to be a clear & obvious error. The integrity of the premier league us far more important than these officals. Its as if Gary & Carra are saying corruption doesnt exist yet we know spain & Italy have had corruption issues with officals so we cant automatically claim the wmglisg game is clean. Especially when Refs get paid 100k a year & are doing side job in Abu Dhabi were they get all expenses paid and 25k per game! Its every week . I hope Nottingham Forest do something.
Carragher doesnt understand, or rather pretends not to understand, because its not his club thats been robbed Terry, thats the simple answer
Neville = double standards = bias = trying your best to get ppl sacked
Wolves and Forest have more than enough evidence to sue, but because of who those two clubs are in the football huarache they are scowled at and dismissed
This isn't murica, fatty, we don't sue all our problems away.
Stick to baseball.
BRAVO to Nottingham Forest!
How is corruption ever prosecuted if you can't question integrity??
The Sky pundits who’s employers have a tv show with the PGMOL bend over backwards to defend the PGMOL. I’m shocked 😱😂
This is spot on. we need more people to grow some balls and call out the refs and these pundits towing the line, especiall the skysports lot which are absolutely part of the problem!. Neville and Carragher should bloody resign! VAR is a failure in every sense. Even these offsides, imo if you need lines and you cant tell its offside with your own eyes then its not offside. How do we know that those lines arent perfectly straight, or the camera is straight? We cant tell the difference between 90 degrees and 89 degrees but that will make a huge differrence.
I'll get killed for bringing this up but I think each manager should get a chance to challenge the ref to go to the monitor and review a decision that is var hasn't given
Arteta got sent off the pitch for this 🤦🏾♂️ the corruption in the Premier League is mental
I agree
Even as a Liverpool fan myself Jamie carragher was l talking up his ass. I saw the video on sky sports video on CZcams and Nottingham forest was robbed of 3 clear penalties. Paul Gallagher was also talking up his ass when he said it wasn't a penalty.
Paul Tierney, coote and Michael Oliver should be nowhere near Liverpool games but guess what coote is the var official in the Everton/Liverpool game.
Did PGMOL and FA not learn anything?
Am a Lpool fan and I totally disagree with Jamie, that is his stomach speaking not his head
Don't know about 3 penalties but they should have had at least 1 given
*arse
Clubs need to get together at the end of the season and take the PGMOL and the FA to court. VAR in the premier league doesn't work due to human error and bias and need to pass it off to a foreign group until referees in England get their act together or there just needs to be consequences for these decisions.
Most definitely 💯☝🏾
EVERYONE Should be doing as much as is possible to make sure that Refs and VAR decisions are NOT biased !!!! For the love of the game and the safety of the fans !!! I agree with how Forrest has responded.
Terry that was'nt offside and you know it,Coventry were robbed yesterday
The thing with the Grealish one, which is a penalty by the way, is that more embarrassingly VAR checked it, saw it hit his arm, deemed it wasn't a penalty and then didn't tell the ref it should have been a corner though!!!!
Neville and carragher are so far removed from fans opinions. they are morally bankrupt...imo
Football prem has been corruption for years now .just look at Man City still waiting to get done for 115 rules .other teams get fine straight away, Everton .forest. Bigger teams just get away with it .There was a clear corner yesterday and the day before not being given .you can clearly see the keeper in both games handle the ball and lines man gave a keep kick instead .it's getting worse and worse .VAR put lines up wherever they want together change the lines to look on or offside .
Come on the man city taking time is bacause they said not guilty the others said guilty. One takes more time.
The issue is why go after 115 charges, go after your best charges that have the best evidence. Thats what criminal prosecutors do is say mass killings etc, they dont go after say 50 murders they go after 5 solid guilty as F still gets the same oitcome. Then people are happy are happy and ahould they want to go after the others they can do that later.
@@blueviper3861 wrong Arsenal have won a European Cup.
@@blueviper3861 we should have won a cl cup if it wasn't for Barcelona fc corruption fact .
Are you actually stupid? Dumbest take.
The VAR is mess towards football it made the referee's to be incompetent to handle football matches on their own anymore and pundits they are just haters towards football
Mike Oliver CANNOY ref Man Shitty games because of the dubai / Saudi Arabia links. Plus all the horrible wrong decisions that have gone in Man City's favour when he has reffed the game for Shitty as the 12th man.
The most annoying thing is us the fans + viewers can't really do much, so when a club tries to hold them accountable the TV we pay for then defends the people who just ruined the match we all paid for. It's absolutely backwards 😑
You say you can't do much, I say stop funding it. That's more than enough.
@@clintharper5509 Everyone would have to come together to do that otherwise 1 person just misses out on watching live sport. That's why we need more clubs and people in position of influence to speak out.
@@mrbobajango7482 deep down you know what you need to do, you're just hoping someone else will take it on so you don't have too. The people you're expecting to stand up, it's never going to happen so you may as well except everything they offer you.
@@clintharper5509 It is happening though we've had a few clubs speak out but the msm are defending pgmol which was my point. Cancelling my contract isn't going achieve anything. I don't have to accept what they say and can choose to ingore their post match analysis but it's worrying they are defending them so much rather than looking out for the viewer and the entertainment /integrity of the sport.
I haven't given a penny tv companies in >10 years and I haven't missed a game.... 🏴☠️
Stop giving your power away ffs. Cut the damn cord and get every friend and family members to do the same.
I don't get this. My next door neighbour in Liverpool is (was) a professional referee. He has always been a mad Everton supporter and for this reason has never been allowed to referee a local Merseyside derby. Not that he was a toffee fan but because he was local. So what has changed?
If they don't publicly call out the PGMOL like Liverpool and Arsenal did then Dermot Gallagher and Howard Webb can just stand in front of the camera and make up excuses as to why it wasn't a penalty. They get away with it when teams don't call them out. Arsenal, Liverpool, Wolves and now Forest have publicly called out the PGMOL after multiple poor decisions against them and since then the VAR decisions have improved. Yes these teams still suffer from errors but not to the extent as before.
(Also I told you Neville and Carragher work for the PGMOL)
It’s ridiculous how Neville and Carragher shift the blame from addressing poor decision making to addressing Forest’s statement
They both lack integrity
There'd be an issue with questioning the integrity of VAR officials but they've proved to be deeply flawed.
Were living in a post TRUTH era. The line between facts and fiction have become blurred. Pundits say thing's that aline with the views of there paymasters and some clubs are definitely being treated harshly while others seem to be able to get away with everything.
I will always maintain that there needs to be an independent investigation into the PGMOL, I truly believe there is something dodgy going on in that organisation.
I completely agree. A statistical check of penalty calls against penalties awarded would show a huge bias in giving the top teams favourable decisions, regardless of whether the decision is right or wrong. PGMOL is owned by the Premier League, so the bias is within the Premier League.
They truly have ruined our game..... and it's so sad
Nottingham Forest are well within their rights though, it's a conflict of interest especially considering the fact NF told the FA, PGMOL and they did nothing to rectify the issue shows their lack of competence and care. The Owners of clubs especially should feel aggrieved because these decisions cost massive amounts of money for clubs, and affect the lives of thousands of staff members and other related businesses.
It's a closed system, you have the PGMOL investigate their own referee's and then we are all meant to be surprised when they find that they did nothing wrong.
Owners have to go through certain checks to be considered for ownership
Players go through medicals, testing and registration before they can play
what standards are these referee's being held to before they are being allowed to perform at the highest level of competition in the world
Tweedle dum and tweedle dee are puppets for their master sky sports....forest are spot on
No Terry, a question of your integrity would be do you speak false statements of a positive nature about the sponsors of your shows.
Scouse spits on kids why would his opinion matter to anyone
They are only bothered about the gravy train they both know what side theyre breads buttered on
Var has ruined the game.
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Funny how they don’t even talk about the real issue which is the poor refs. They quickly try to shut down anything to protect them and their stupid jobs.
Hahaha, commercial decisions and agreements? It's almost the same as corruption...
It is legalised corruption, which is of course corrupt!
Pundits have zero responsibility.
They LOVE controversy. They say every decision is wrong AND VAR is slowing down the game. They have it all ways.
We have to accept decisions.
But pundits job is to waste people's time and emotional energy on refereeing.
The truth is there are two opinions on all major refereeing decisions. The referees cannot get it right!
If I could change two things in VAR.
1st. All FAR officials will be non referees themselves but will be fully trained staff, possibly ex players, we no longer want VARq officials knowing or are possibly friends with the in field referee.
2nd, All dubious or contentious decisions to be viewed by the match referee via the monitor, and not decided by VARq offuciaks, as we don't want the game to be rd refereed we want decisions made by the on field referee.
Jamie Carraghar must be spiting mad
These pundits get half an hour of gobshiting to us all then pep or klopp or eth get 5 minutes each I think everyone is onto something here it’s definitely got my full attention from now on.
Great video. Spot on (unless Atwell is on VAR)
They’re biased…If you work for Sky Sport/The Premier League, you do ur utmost to protect the image of the game.
Look at the Liverpool Spurs call earlier this season. At half time, the whole Sky Sports crew knew a mistake had been made, but they all kept schtum during the interval so to not spoil the image of ‘The English Game’.
I really don't understand why Carra and Nev get seen as football law, they don't matter and it's time people stop listening to them
What other sport has so many, so consistently unfathomable 'mistakes', like VAR/Refs in the PL?
I'd understand it if the PL was a farmer's league, that could only afford scarecrows as officials and even then they were employed on a part-time ameuteur basis, using 4 jumpers as goalposts on alternate fields, on Clarkson's farm, but how strange that the, if not the richest sports league in the World, it's one of them, can't seem to get simple decisons, aided by slow mo multi camera angles, right.
I recall the odd "You can't be serious" from Macenroe, but don't hear this level of (justifiable) outrage in Cricket, Basketball, Baseball or Rugby, so why only the PL!
These ex-players, main stream football media bobble heads are so quick to undermine any club's protests on diabolical decisions, are like the VAR sheep dogs nipping at the protesting clubs ankles, belittling, deriding & embarssing them, as if to herd them towards the pen with a sign nailed to the gate, by 4 rusty football studs, "Shut ye mouths and go munch on some grass, flipping sheepeople".
I've said this for years that in english football we should have foreign referees, theres always going to be biased somewhere along the line, remove Neville and Carragher from all commentary positions immediately they're a pair of clowns
Carragher, the man who felt the need to spit at a teenage fan, should have been sacked by Sky. He's got no right to talk about integrity. And check out the foul on Tomiyasu at Arsenal last night which was a blatant red card.
Quite right - great video. Brutal week as a Forest fan
Great video. Then to top it off. The ref for the upcoming Luton game is a notts county fan. And Forest have the same ref that didn’t send Maddison off for a punch on Yates 🙄 corruption to say the least. They are taking the piss now
Why would a Luton fan want Everton to win ?
Good point
Because Luton are 1 point behind Forest and are battling for 17th
@@MUFCK7Spurs 10 point's clear of United hold that
@@MUFCK7and Everon would have been on 27 points who Luton still have to play
And Everton play Liverpool and Arsenal
So an Everton defeat would have been better
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Big clubs favoured,,all pundits doing the same
Howard Webb was a Man United Fan and made sure Manure won alot of games. Mike Dean is a Spursy fan. This is a big problem in the EPL.
Carragher saying: "Its like a fan in the pub" like a bad thing, but fans in the pubs are the lifeblood of the sport. Fans all around the world, should be listened to most in the grand scheme of things.
Underneath all the banter and shit twitter jokes, fans all just love football because it can give us incredible joy but also heartbreaking sadness. Thats the beauty of this game.
Without emotions, the game is worth nothing. The PGMOL, Sky and all the other ex players defending the refs are going to ruin this beautiful sport and it is terrifying.
I would love to see if that happened to Man U and Liverpool. Forest I’ve had it all season… I want the super league to come back so the top six piss off.
they can doctor the audio, why does it take that long to release ??
Well done Terry 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Keep working brother, one day they will be gone..... us supporters with cams and channels was and is the end to "humans" like Jamie and Gary
VAR Sheds more light on it and makes things more transparent. Don't scrap it, that would make it easier to cheat !
Scrap VAR and go back to old ways it was more exciting celebrating goals . I cant stand scoring and waiting around to be told i can celebrate it ruins the game massively.
How can you say the Grealish one is a penalty, he is in a wall, linking arms with DeBruyne and Alvarez. He and DeBruyne jump higher than Alvarez when the free kick is taken, the link with Alvarez is broken and his arm is then naturally on its way down, should have been a corner mate!
"Fan in the pub" .... what pub he talking about😂😂😂😂
FACTS TERRY ,refs are a disgrace and pundits as well for not calling them out ,as long as G Nev and co don't acuse dodgy refs decisions that cost many teams and clubs ,the same problems will keep happening over again and no one will treat them
These people make watching before and after the games and sky keep putting them n
scrap VAR, thats the only option. this is getting worse by the week
Substandard Refereeing MUST not be left alone; IT MUST BE CALLED OUT. These ex-player pundits are shameful for allowing this to go on without retort. However, an edict of silence on the issue may be filtering down from the bosses.
The offside decision is exactly why var was brought in, in that instance var got it right but because it's not the decision that some people want they criticize var, them kind of people should never be trusted they are willing to sacrifice integrity & fairness to get their desired outcome. Do not get rid of var, if we do it will only help them who deliberately get it wrong.
SHHHH dont say anything. Nip it in the bud early, because otherwise they'll find out about the match fixing we have going on.
"Hey Everton, pay the fine, take the points drop, we'll make sure you stay up"
We are all deluded to think it doesnt happen across ALL sport
I would really want to hear what they will say about the Barcelona President address🤔
Keep it going! Well done Terry!
it's funny they acknowledge that the refs are at fault but don't want to put any accountability on them
Yep, it’s strange
Wait what the Neville say. So he doesn't the jeapody and possible bias. Why even put themselves in that situation. They shouldve should changed the referee. They knew he had alleged tied to Luton. The ref was in a position to help his club by turning his eyes to the THREE penalty claims. THREE!
The referees the pgmol the media they all have there clubs they support but one thing they all have in common is that they all hate Manchester United and the actually decides who win this league that’s what VAR is for. there will be a controversial decision in these last six games that will help city some way or the other just watch
Obviously we want to get the right decision but even if its wrong consistently at least its consistent & find away to playing around it.
" like a fan in a pub " . Who do they think they are to level that at anyone in such a derogatory way. The only reason he has a job to voice his useless opinions is because of fans. Past that I'm yet to understand what " insight " and analysis carragher actually offers that differs from your average fan. They turn a blind eye to the most blatantly obvious mistakes and act as if everyone else does not understand what's going on.
Like I've bin saying for a long time get rid of VAR we don't need it
The ref was a city fan
I believe it needs to be as scientific as possible so that they cannot have an abstract point of view and give an advantage to teams they want to give an advantage to. If it is offside by a hairline, it is offside. More rules such as these need to be introduced so that football is fair for everyone and the referee cant use his feelings to justify his decision.
Without fans where would football be
Referee's have been so inconsistent for years it's just not this season, unfortunately decisions goes against you and you just have to get on with the games in Nottingham forest case they had two really good chances to get something out of that game against Everton, also if forest do go down they will have only have themselves to blame because in alot of the games they have had plenty of opportunities to get the right results from games but due to bad defending and not being clinically enough in the attacking third, this is why they are struggling.
Half of Salford fans had had it with sack race Gary Neville
And fuk the media for messing with the game like the mess with everything else
It should no longer be called the PGMOL it should now be called the PGLOL
Question integrity? PGMOL have none.
Terry, the PGMOL will just say there was no clear and obvious error for the on field decision regarding the penalty calls or non-calls. But I don’t understand what a clear and obvious error is. They need to define the term clear and obvious. Or just decide whether it’s a mistake or not, because at the end of the day either it’s an error, or it’s not an error.
It's a loop hole they've created.
Terry is a stand up guy
Cure 4 football = stop ingame BETTING + no tv money + only 5 international players on the pitch + mandatory 50 percent club owned by fans+ no refrees that hasn't played football..
Sorry but do you think this is possible??????
It is embarassing!! You can call out VAR because those decisions were awful! 100% 2 were stonewall IMO.... but impyling atwell was being corupt because he supports Luton is fantasy land. The draw was a better result for us firstly (keeps 2 sides we can catch) and personally i'd prefer forest won as we can beat everton in 2 weeks whereas we cannot impact forests season at all! Also if a ref who supports a 3rd party cannot ref the game we will be struggling for refs every week