Jordan Peterson: How to Deal with Suffering, Tragedy and Illness

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  • čas přidán 15. 11. 2020
  • Jordan Peterson tells the story of his father in law who cared for his ill wife for 15 years. Peterson explains what we can learn from such tragic experiences and how one can deal with such suffering and tragedy.
    These lectures are taken from Dr. Peterson's 12 Rules for Life Tour in Australia. You can support him directly here: www.jordanbpeterson.com/donate/
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Komentáře • 128

  • @drdavid62
    @drdavid62 Před 3 lety +115

    Jordan's frequent forays into the problem of life's suffering has had a profound impact on my life. I more fully understand that suffering is a universal experience, an inherent part of the human condition, and not just a 'problem with me'. All the little frustrations I must suffer throughout the day from dragging myself out of a warm bed in the morning to stubbing my toe, to not having some little thing go my way are being experienced the world over in one way or another. I am not alone in my sufferings, large or small - and there is comfort in that.

    • @DestinyAwaits19
      @DestinyAwaits19 Před rokem +4

      Suffering is inherent to the human condition of attaining enlightenment. If there was no tragedy or suffering it would not be a good world. In an ironic sense. People cannot grow strong, wise, virtous or healthy in a world of butterflies and cup cakes. A better world awaits us. But while ever we inhabit this one there is lots of pain and agony along the way...and its for our own good. The Spartans knew this truth. So do most modern militaries. God's kingdom is a cruel kingdom but a good one. For he is surely a fine craftsmen. And knows what he is doing.

    • @user-so4sv1dq4z
      @user-so4sv1dq4z Před 4 měsíci +2

      HIT ME
      "HIT ME". This quote by Joker actor Heath Ledger from "The Dark Knight" made a huge impression on me and inspired me to create a philosophy. It has helped me to make peace with all my issues of suffering. Through practices of all kinds. I have learned to love my suffering and ultimately my life. The hits of suffering are a fact of life and the key to enlightenment. A hit from suffering affects you internally in the mental, in the psychic, or superficially in the body. All beings and all things have this powerful side to them. "HIT ME" always works. Because you are never disappointed with this expectation. Because something almost always hits you. Whether it's unwanted emotions or thoughts. And even if you don't want to be hit by something, it still hits you. So it still works as an expectation. It even works when positive things hit you. Like soft raindrops or a soap bubble. Just like joyful or happy emotions and or thoughts. Hit me always, all the way, in every way, anyway. "Anyway", because sometimes or often I don't want to be hit and it hits me anyway. Then it happens anyway. Or I say although I don't want to be hit, I still want to be hit in order to gain strength. When you commit to such an idea, you unlock the path to enlightenment. It is therefore a good reason to follow the path of loving our suffering. As it brings great benefits to oneself. From ourselves not wanting to be hit and not wanting to take the suffering into ourselves, to wanting to be hit and wanting to take the suffering into ourselves. It always works, no matter in what form we are hit. Once you have developed a certain level of this practice, you master suffering and become truly enlightened in love for suffering. And for conflict, but also for what hits us in general, I quote Bruce Lee, from the movie "Enter The Dragon": "I do not hit. It hits all by itself."

    • @drdavid62
      @drdavid62 Před 4 měsíci

      @@user-so4sv1dq4z yes, you definitely get it brother, and well said. I'll add that when I examine the peak moments in my life, occasions of most intense joy, happiness, or gratification, without exception, they can be traced back to periods of great and sometimes extreme anguish or suffering which put me on a different path and without which I would never have had the opportunity to experienc the peak moment. We are always rewarded for bearing our cross willingly. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but somewhere down the road, if we're patient, it comes and we can be grateful once again for the suffering catalyst that put us on this path. We just need to remind ourselves throughout our daily grind that this is the way the universe works. Sometimes the whining sneaks out of me before I remember. Haha. Feet of clay. I'm guessing JP alludes to the Joker/ Ledger analogy, but I don't think I ever watched that Batman movie. I'll definitley check it out! Nice to see JP's insights are still changing peoples lives for the better.🙏👊💪

  • @vichufeb16
    @vichufeb16 Před 2 lety +73

    I'm a fatherless, poor mother's son! Recently mom's diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer. Yet to do the surgery and yet to face the consequences. But I'm promising myself to hold on to whatever may come. Learn things that are essential as I always have. Even when I'm shivering as I'm now and say, "bring it on!".

    • @xidandou5271
      @xidandou5271 Před 2 lety +9

      I just found out my mom had the triple negative metastatic breast cancer. I didn’t know how to deal with it so I randomly searched his video. I hope to find strength to deal with this.

    • @joeldecoster8816
      @joeldecoster8816 Před 2 lety +2

      @@xidandou5271Damn DAMN, DAMN

    • @twoqubebaishnab3394
      @twoqubebaishnab3394 Před 2 lety +6

      Brought tears into my eyes, I m praying for all of you

    • @JourneymanLineman
      @JourneymanLineman Před rokem +4

      You don’t have to help her, you get to. I hope your journey has been challenging, meaningful and spiritual. Take care my brother.

    • @vichufeb16
      @vichufeb16 Před rokem +2

      @WINRetrogaming98 @B H @Twoqube Baishnab Thank you for your wishes, dear people. She's in a better disposition now!

  • @chunky9791
    @chunky9791 Před 10 měsíci +15

    I lost my pride & joy, my only son at 18 to a unlicensed dui driver 2 years ago. This man's convictions & words single handed brought me back from the from the brink. Did all I could to just kill myself & die. No purpose, joy, just a empty shell of my former self just waiting, hoping for the end & a reprieve from all this. Then I saw a jp video & started binge watching them. Slowly, very slowly (2 yrs before I genuinely laughed again) I somehow accepted it & moved on not past it but with it. I carry it the best I can everyday somedays I do OK somedays not so much but for the first time I feel optimistic about the future.

    • @paulinemanifold436
      @paulinemanifold436 Před 6 měsíci +3

      My heart goes out to you .Genuinely so sorry for your loss .So good that you found comfort from this great guy & that he's helped you to navigate this awful pathway of grief.I lost my only (younger) sister (3yrs in Jan),still struggle,but doing better than i was .Take care of yourself x

    • @lmAIone
      @lmAIone Před 4 měsíci +2

      Godbless you.

    • @GM-yq5wk
      @GM-yq5wk Před 2 měsíci +1

      My son was 35 passed June 4th 2022 I am struggling so much to a drunk driver as well fed up of trying to be ok

  • @mishukzoo
    @mishukzoo Před 3 lety +95

    When people wonder why JP gathered such a wide audience, well look no further than this. He doesn't just speak about wishful thinking, but he challenges us to live up to our potential.
    This is truly inspiring stuff!

    • @squarerootof2
      @squarerootof2 Před 3 lety +3

      Shame he wasn't able to follow what he preached and drowned himself in pills and antidepressants. I guess life is hard to deal with for everyone when it really comes down to suffering, tragedy and illness. I wish Dr Peterson well and I really hope he recovers completely. He did inspire a lot of people and still does, I suppose.

    • @mishukzoo
      @mishukzoo Před 3 lety +4

      @@squarerootof2 what's wrong with you? The man had a brush with dead on account of benzos side effects and all that because his wife was thought to have terminal cancer. And after all that he's back at it again.
      What a manly man you are commenting on someone else's tragedy. Try stepping off your high horse every once in a while and dabble a bit in the muddy life with the rest of us

    • @squarerootof2
      @squarerootof2 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mishukzoo Don't overreact like a little girl. I just said we're all human, that's all. Learn to deal with it.

    • @steven5054
      @steven5054 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mishukzoo "Before you help someone, you should find out why that person is in trouble. You shouldn’t merely assume that he or she is a noble victim of unjust circumstance and exploitation. It is far more likely that a given individual has just decided to reject the path upward, because of its difficulty.” - Jordan Peterson

    • @modestoney1577
      @modestoney1577 Před rokem +1

      @@squarerootof2 "Shame he wasn't able to follow what he preached ....." Interesting way of putiing: "we're all human, that's all...."

  • @coreymichael1880
    @coreymichael1880 Před rokem +13

    My little brothers father has been diagnosed with terminal cancer while having tests on him due to him suffering from a stroke on December 29th. Our mother died in 2017 suddenly out of nowhere and it’s been a tough road since. Now they’re facing the reality there dad won’t be here much longer and they’ll both be parent less before turning 25. I am heartbroken for them and so scared, so I can’t even begin to imagine how they’re feeling. Watching videos like this, reading all your comments is the only thing that I am finding helpful, so thank you all and my heart goes out to you all. Your strength is tremendous and I hope you all find happiness again at some point.

    • @DestinyAwaits19
      @DestinyAwaits19 Před rokem

      God bless my man. How is he doing? I hope he's ok. May God's goodness and love see through during these times.

    • @Straightarrow7777
      @Straightarrow7777 Před měsícem

      ❤❤❤❤prayers sent

  • @jorielle7
    @jorielle7 Před 10 měsíci +4

    The light is more powerful than the darkness.

  • @eric6242
    @eric6242 Před 3 měsíci +4

    My mother died in July and my father basically starved her to death at the end . He literally told me to my face he doesn’t like me many times after she passed. I was the only one who tried to give my mom more time to say good bye to the family . I picked up her 65 pound body and drove her to the ER when she couldn’t talk or swallow . It was one of the most traumatizing events of my life and I relive it all the time . But I gave her 2 extra weeks ( the first ER visit )and then 2 extra more days to say good bye to her grandkids and siblings. I still cry from the loss and I still blame myself for not doing enough . But seeing her sign her own death by going into hospice and dying the first day, I realized how strong she was and that I’m just as resilient and strong as her . Thank you mom I love you ❤️!

    • @bbrucet3
      @bbrucet3 Před 2 měsíci

      I say this respectfully, but how empty of a vessel was your father at the end? How many days did he see this woman how avoid this trial. 7:43

    • @eric6242
      @eric6242 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ⁠He knew she was going to pass for sure a couple weeks before . He stopped trying to give her water I noticed maybe 2-3 weeks before she died the second to last time I brought her to the ER . He is a coward and all alone now . I still care for him but he makes it impossible to be around . He basically put me in a metaphorical situation of him about to crash a car and handing me the wheel right before it was too late to steer .

    • @bbrucet3
      @bbrucet3 Před 2 měsíci

      @@eric6242 What was she dying of? She didn't just die of starvation right?

    • @eric6242
      @eric6242 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@bbrucet3 she had multiple issues . She was in stage 4 kidney failure , pancreatitis and many masses around the pancreas and kidneys . She ended up getting like 2 liters of sepsis fluid in her belly like every 3 weeks until I finally insisted on a paracentesis to remove the fluid weekly ( she was hospitalized and had sepsis about 5 times ) . Since my father restricted her diet so much she ended up not even trying to eat or drink anything . She lost all hope. The last time I saw her true self laughing was her birthday 3 weeks before she passed . I brought her pie and some other stuff she likes and my dad threw it away in the trash it was really messed up . I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone . I really appreciate you conversing with me it really helps . I hope everything is good with you !

    • @bbrucet3
      @bbrucet3 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@eric6242 Eric. I'm very sorry for your loss. As much as you (and I at the time) would like to believe, as much control as it gives you over the unfixable, more food wouldn't have saved your mom. After 3 days, the pain of hunger is gone and thirst leaves as well. I promise you she didn't suffer by not eating drinking. The cancer was so much more painful. So hopefully she was medicated. You loved her, and that's what matters most. Sometimes ending the suffering of the pained is the best thing you can do. And the person that has to carry out that task never recovers. Ever. I know.

  • @ItsWithakayLee
    @ItsWithakayLee Před 3 lety +29

    Can’t wait for this mans comeback! Glad to see in his update video he’s doing better

    • @user-so4sv1dq4z
      @user-so4sv1dq4z Před 4 měsíci +1

      HIT ME
      "HIT ME". This quote by Joker actor Heath Ledger from "The Dark Knight" made a huge impression on me and inspired me to create a philosophy. It has helped me to make peace with all my issues of suffering. Through practices of all kinds. I have learned to love my suffering and ultimately my life. The hits of suffering are a fact of life and the key to enlightenment. A hit from suffering affects you internally in the mental, in the psychic, or superficially in the body. All beings and all things have this powerful side to them. "HIT ME" always works. Because you are never disappointed with this expectation. Because something almost always hits you. Whether it's unwanted emotions or thoughts. And even if you don't want to be hit by something, it still hits you. So it still works as an expectation. It even works when positive things hit you. Like soft raindrops or a soap bubble. Just like joyful or happy emotions and or thoughts. Hit me always, all the way, in every way, anyway. "Anyway", because sometimes or often I don't want to be hit and it hits me anyway. Then it happens anyway. Or I say although I don't want to be hit, I still want to be hit in order to gain strength. When you commit to such an idea, you unlock the path to enlightenment. It is therefore a good reason to follow the path of loving our suffering. As it brings great benefits to oneself. From ourselves not wanting to be hit and not wanting to take the suffering into ourselves, to wanting to be hit and wanting to take the suffering into ourselves. It always works, no matter in what form we are hit. Once you have developed a certain level of this practice, you master suffering and become truly enlightened in love for suffering. And for conflict, but also for what hits us in general, I quote Bruce Lee, from the movie "Enter The Dragon": "I do not hit. It hits all by itself."

  • @Carrierdlr1
    @Carrierdlr1 Před 3 lety +30

    What a class act this man is!!!

    • @user-so4sv1dq4z
      @user-so4sv1dq4z Před 4 měsíci +1

      HIT ME
      "HIT ME". This quote by Joker actor Heath Ledger from "The Dark Knight" made a huge impression on me and inspired me to create a philosophy. It has helped me to make peace with all my issues of suffering. Through practices of all kinds. I have learned to love my suffering and ultimately my life. The hits of suffering are a fact of life and the key to enlightenment. A hit from suffering affects you internally in the mental, in the psychic, or superficially in the body. All beings and all things have this powerful side to them. "HIT ME" always works. Because you are never disappointed with this expectation. Because something almost always hits you. Whether it's unwanted emotions or thoughts. And even if you don't want to be hit by something, it still hits you. So it still works as an expectation. It even works when positive things hit you. Like soft raindrops or a soap bubble. Just like joyful or happy emotions and or thoughts. Hit me always, all the way, in every way, anyway. "Anyway", because sometimes or often I don't want to be hit and it hits me anyway. Then it happens anyway. Or I say although I don't want to be hit, I still want to be hit in order to gain strength. When you commit to such an idea, you unlock the path to enlightenment. It is therefore a good reason to follow the path of loving our suffering. As it brings great benefits to oneself. From ourselves not wanting to be hit and not wanting to take the suffering into ourselves, to wanting to be hit and wanting to take the suffering into ourselves. It always works, no matter in what form we are hit. Once you have developed a certain level of this practice, you master suffering and become truly enlightened in love for suffering. And for conflict, but also for what hits us in general, I quote Bruce Lee, from the movie "Enter The Dragon": "I do not hit. It hits all by itself."

  • @ammukuriyan7429
    @ammukuriyan7429 Před 7 dny

    Each of our pain and losses are very varied,we cannot compare.

  • @vjm3
    @vjm3 Před 3 lety +40

    When he gave this speech, he was similarly suffering. The fact he came back from it and is preparing to continue holds even more weight to his words.
    With his education, he was familiar with psychology and mental well being. Now, he's living validation that it can be done.
    Yet his disingenuous jealous detractors will try to shame him for a very human moment of weakness, because they couldn't come back from what he managed to. You know what's amazing? I bet Jordan Peterson would STILL believe they could, even when they choose not to.

  • @darkmatter7301
    @darkmatter7301 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I’m not always with him on every single view but he really excels in this sort of topic. I think his take on suffering and pushing through and finding the light within to transcend the suffering is pretty inspirational. I’m glad I watched this.

  • @lmAIone
    @lmAIone Před 4 měsíci +2

    Cried like a baby towards the end of this.

  • @therambler3713
    @therambler3713 Před 3 lety +6

    Its 3am and I'm binging JP videos again

  • @RockHudrock
    @RockHudrock Před 3 lety +11

    Welcome back, Dr. Peterson! Boy, do we need you!!! ♥️🇺🇸🇨🇦
    The most needed thing is found where we least want to dig and look - indeed!

  • @carersoutlook
    @carersoutlook Před 2 lety

    Thank you. You shine your light on us.

  • @cliobc
    @cliobc Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you.

  • @jamiewilliams829
    @jamiewilliams829 Před 2 lety +4

    Suffering in my earlier life has made me stronger and accept things the way they are,its also made me self reliant.

  • @rachelseiferle1262
    @rachelseiferle1262 Před 2 lety +4

    I love you so much! Your depth of feeling give all of us so much strength ....thank you!

  • @Josephcmiro731
    @Josephcmiro731 Před rokem +2

    He is a delight to follow and learn from.

  • @erickpalacios8904
    @erickpalacios8904 Před 2 lety +9

    What a trouper. I don't always agree with his scientific examples or opinions (generally those that are outside of his area of expert knowledge), but I do respect this man. You can tell the genuineness with which he approaches topics, and even topics which are difficult and emotionally challenging. Anyone who can teach us something while being as vulnerable as he is should at least be admired. Because this is so rare in our day and age.

  • @siobhanegan2837
    @siobhanegan2837 Před rokem +2

    Dr Peterson at his absolute BEST

  • @xpaja02
    @xpaja02 Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @harleyquinn6692
    @harleyquinn6692 Před 6 měsíci

    I love how passionate he is♥️

  • @harleyquinn6692
    @harleyquinn6692 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you Jordan🥺💔

  • @superdani152003
    @superdani152003 Před 3 lety +3

    wonderful!👏

  • @jeffwelker8114
    @jeffwelker8114 Před 3 lety +1

    Absolutely!!!

  • @jessicamarieg1983
    @jessicamarieg1983 Před 3 měsíci

    I have my own sufferings, but my pain is much more than what I've gone through or what I've lost, but the suffering of the ones I have loved and lost and their suffering and of the ongoing suffering of all living beings is what truly hurts my soul. 😭🙏❤️✝️

  • @nikkimetallinou5992
    @nikkimetallinou5992 Před 2 lety +3

    What a wonderful selfless way for an Uber intellectual to genuinely connect to the average soul.

  • @Collective_Unconscious_
    @Collective_Unconscious_ Před 9 měsíci

    im sad... J.P. helps a lot.

  • @Rock_Girl_Daze
    @Rock_Girl_Daze Před 3 lety +4

    Love ya Jordon 💗

  • @ufcprophet40
    @ufcprophet40 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The life on earth is hell for most, with its tragedy and evil that is all around us. Unfortunately non of us had a choice whether we want to be in this world or not and this choice was made for us by our parents. Thus, I made sure I have no kids. At least I can do my little contribution to break the chain of suffering.

  • @snarecat3441
    @snarecat3441 Před rokem

    Best to you. God is guiding this , you’ll be ok!

  • @tristan4545
    @tristan4545 Před 2 lety +7

    My girlfriends father recently passed and her family is in shambles right now. I've been doing my best to support my girlfriend. This happened only a few days ago. I've been trying my best to stay strong and let her release her emotions but it's tough for everyone. Any advice?

    • @cjamesjasper5117
      @cjamesjasper5117 Před 2 lety +4

      the only thing i can suggest is the healing 'power' of time. time truly does heal all wounds; scars may remain but the wound itself has healed.

  • @papaainsl3705
    @papaainsl3705 Před 8 měsíci

    My grandfather today had a insult. Took the role to be the one who brings the news to other family members , I charged in to deal whit this and be strong for my grandmother, father and uncle . I wanted to break down multiple times when made those calls , when I gathered information what is happening whit my grandfather. It hurts a lot , but I have to be strong so people around me suffer less

  • @michaelmartinez4981
    @michaelmartinez4981 Před rokem

    I wish I could see things like Jorden. I have psych issue's and had a disfunctional family and it's hard for me to comprehend this level of faith.

    • @Fandoms4Life
      @Fandoms4Life Před rokem

      Watch some videos by Gabor Maté; he talks a lot about trauma and he asks some really difficult but insightful questions that will help you to get to the stage in which you can believe in your intrinsic worth. Good luck.

  • @enriqueavalos
    @enriqueavalos Před 3 lety +3

    a Prophet in Our Times

  • @lucannon
    @lucannon Před 2 lety +2

    I wish I could talk to him

  • @changingyourworld4693
    @changingyourworld4693 Před rokem +2

    This viewpoint sounds like Rainer Maria Rilke.
    Let This Darkness Be a Bell Tower
    Written by Rainer Maria Rilke
    Translated and read by Joanna Macy
    Listen
    Quiet friend who has come so far,
    feel how your breathing makes more space around you.
    Let this darkness be a bell tower
    and you the bell. As you ring,
    what batters you becomes your strength.
    Move back and forth into the change.
    What is it like, such intensity of pain?
    If the drink is bitter, turn yourself to wine.
    In this uncontainable night,
    be the mystery at the crossroads of your senses,
    the meaning discovered there.
    And if the world has ceased to hear you,
    say to the silent earth: I flow.
    To the rushing water, speak: I am.
    Sonnets to Orpheus II, 29

  • @GM-yq5wk
    @GM-yq5wk Před 2 měsíci +1

    How do I deal with the loss of my son who was 35

  • @margrose5
    @margrose5 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’ve come to believe life is suffering.

  • @rezwanmahmudpathan5365
    @rezwanmahmudpathan5365 Před rokem +1

    That is idea about tragedy

  • @Jennalee_Randall01
    @Jennalee_Randall01 Před rokem +1

    Iv got diffuse alveolar hemorrhage and systimatic lupus erythamtosis the alveolar hemorrhage is absolutely fatal and extremely rare so I'm scared it happens again either to my kidney or brain it's already affected my left lung and honestly I have no idea how to feel I'm 21 and been displaying symptoms since 13 was only diagnosed last week after my lung had collapsed

  • @NAJErEa91
    @NAJErEa91 Před 2 lety

    I am learning the art of transcending malevolence! and I've found a peace that passeth ALL understanding in CHRIST JESUS! 🙏💕🎶💯

    • @NAJErEa91
      @NAJErEa91 Před 2 lety

      WHEN MR JORDAN PETERSON BEGINS TO BREAK DOWN WHILE PASSIONATELY EXPRESSING THE TRUTHS OF LIFE , MY VERY SOUL LIGHTS UP AND IS FILLED WITH PASSION AND TRUTH AND FREEDOM!

    • @NAJErEa91
      @NAJErEa91 Před 2 lety

      "cynicism, bitterness, resentment, willful blindness, and avoidance." MY LORDT WHOOO!!! WHAT A COMPOSITION!!! 🗣📢TEACH US GOOD SIR!!!!

    • @NAJErEa91
      @NAJErEa91 Před 2 lety

      @6:44 YES AND AMEN!!!

    • @NAJErEa91
      @NAJErEa91 Před 2 lety

      @6:50 PREACH MR PETERSON!!!!

    • @NAJErEa91
      @NAJErEa91 Před 2 lety

      @6:59 WE ARE UNWORTHY OF THIS KUCH GOODNESS BUT I THANK AND PRAISE GOD FOR HIM SMH GEMS UPON GEMS UPON GEMS HE IS GIVING US!!!

  • @ImwithKyle
    @ImwithKyle Před 2 měsíci

    I am so delusional regarding the death of my younger brother that i try to convince myself that my family are God-like beings or saints and the world is going to decend into chaos and we are going to ressurect my brother and be established as the rightful leaders of the world. My mom claims my brother was cremated but i convince myself she is hiding that he is secretly preserved, awaiting the resurrection. I apparently can in no way handle and accept tragedy. Alongside my brother i also lost who i believe to be my soulmate, and the greatest opportunity in my life to build significant wealth that would have let my buy a home and start a better life. It wasn't just one tragedy, is was multiple things including losing my hopes and dreams. How can i accept and move on if i dont feel like there is a life for me anymore because everything that made me who i was becoming was torn away from me?

  • @kurokai2085
    @kurokai2085 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I dont like when his voice cries

    • @jj-nh8lz
      @jj-nh8lz Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, he feels things very deeply. This is obviously a burden for him personally, but it also means he can closely relate to the deepest human emotions. This world is full of disingenuous people, so his being absolutely genuine is something so rare it keeps bringing me back

  • @colonelradec5956
    @colonelradec5956 Před rokem +1

    the logic just does not math out. you say nihilists turn to pointless fun and how useless that is. but then you say face suffering. to what end? how is that any less pointless? sure you can make life less shitty but you certainly can not win.
    it might make you feel better to take on the hell of life. but till when? till you die and lose everything.
    if you believe in god life probably does make sense. so being religious like jordan is completely changes the logic.
    for the religious there is an afterlife. which makes it pretty easy to not feel so bad. but if you dont 😂 then alls you can do is limit the suffering.
    which coulda been prevented by not being born lol.

    • @Fandoms4Life
      @Fandoms4Life Před rokem +2

      The point is to go through the suffering, not to destroy yourself, but to make yourself stronger and to return to a place of love rather than deep pain. It's not about self-destruction, it's about making yourself stronger and integrating the experience of grief into your life, so you have the skills to cope with it more.

  • @shinobitatsu
    @shinobitatsu Před měsícem +2

    Bullshit

  • @colonelradec5956
    @colonelradec5956 Před 2 lety +1

    i disagree. sure you can make life less bad but can you make it good? i do not believe so. so yea better to make it less bad. whoopdie. and then you tell me what kind of god creates an existence like this 😂 ? i could sit here for 1000 years and try to imagine a worst existence and i mean all creatures. not me personally and i cant think of much short of literal hell.
    i from a young age attempted very hard to believe in a god but it just doesn't mesh with reality unless god is an actual demon.

  • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

    Anyone else see the irony here?

  • @vladanlausevic1733
    @vladanlausevic1733 Před 3 lety

    I would say that most people from my experience who admire JBP are not individualists. On contrary, they are collectivists.

  • @timwhistine9997
    @timwhistine9997 Před rokem +1

    For an intelligent man, he uses too much unintelligent language. G-- Da--? Really? Was that necessary??

  • @DagothThorus
    @DagothThorus Před 3 lety

    Yeah you can always dive in into benzos

    • @drdavid62
      @drdavid62 Před 3 lety +7

      Even those perfect souls who hate him are compelled to listen to his message - even if only to find fault.

  • @stevebartley8902
    @stevebartley8902 Před 3 lety +1

    Go away.

  • @vladanlausevic1733
    @vladanlausevic1733 Před 3 lety +1

    I understand that JBP had many problems in life. We should support him as a human being. But he is not always right as regarding political theory and facts

  • @vladanlausevic1733
    @vladanlausevic1733 Před 3 lety +1

    As usual, the guy does not know what is he talking about

    • @xandervirtus
      @xandervirtus Před 3 lety +16

      Pffff please go spam your resentment somewhere else, you're only displaying your weak personality. How about trying to improve yourself instead of spewing your filth.

    • @egu5100
      @egu5100 Před 3 lety +9

      “That’s just like...your opinion man.”

    • @aygerty2252
      @aygerty2252 Před 3 lety +4

      I’m assuming ur the next up and coming legendary psychologist.

  • @user-so4sv1dq4z
    @user-so4sv1dq4z Před 4 měsíci +1

    HIT ME
    "HIT ME". This quote by Joker actor Heath Ledger from "The Dark Knight" made a huge impression on me and inspired me to create a philosophy. It has helped me to make peace with all my issues of suffering. Through practices of all kinds. I have learned to love my suffering and ultimately my life. The hits of suffering are a fact of life and the key to enlightenment. A hit from suffering affects you internally in the mental, in the psychic, or superficially in the body. All beings and all things have this powerful side to them. "HIT ME" always works. Because you are never disappointed with this expectation. Because something almost always hits you. Whether it's unwanted emotions or thoughts. And even if you don't want to be hit by something, it still hits you. So it still works as an expectation. It even works when positive things hit you. Like soft raindrops or a soap bubble. Just like joyful or happy emotions and or thoughts. Hit me always, all the way, in every way, anyway. "Anyway", because sometimes or often I don't want to be hit and it hits me anyway. Then it happens anyway. Or I say although I don't want to be hit, I still want to be hit in order to gain strength. When you commit to such an idea, you unlock the path to enlightenment. It is therefore a good reason to follow the path of loving our suffering. As it brings great benefits to oneself. From ourselves not wanting to be hit and not wanting to take the suffering into ourselves, to wanting to be hit and wanting to take the suffering into ourselves. It always works, no matter in what form we are hit. Once you have developed a certain level of this practice, you master suffering and become truly enlightened in love for suffering. And for conflict, but also for what hits us in general, I quote Bruce Lee, from the movie "Enter The Dragon": "I do not hit. It hits all by itself."

  • @ryu7408
    @ryu7408 Před 2 lety +3

    HIT ME
    This quote from the Joker actor Heath Ledger from "The Dark Knight" made a huge impact on me and inspired me to create a philosophy. It helped me make peace with all of that. Through practices of all kinds. I have learned to love my trauma, my illness, my feelings, my thoughts, my conflicts, my life and ultimately my suffering. The hits are a fact of life and the key to enlightenment. A hit affects you, internally or superficially. Everyone and everything has this HIT ME side in it. HIT ME always works. And you will never be disappointed with this life expectation. Because something always hits you. Even if you don't want to be hit by something, it still hits you. Hence, it still works as a life expectation. It even works when positive things hit you. Like soft raindrops or a soap bubble. Same as joy or bliss. Hit me all the way, in any way, anyway (even if sometimes or often I don't want it). If you commit yourself to such an idea, you decipher the path to enlightenment. It is therefore a good reason to follow the path of loving our suffering. Because it brings you great benefits. From ourselves, when we don't want to be hit and don't want to take in the hits, to the desire to be hit and take in the hits. It always works, regardless of the form. Once one has developed a certain level of this practice, one masters the suffering and becomes truly enlightened. And for conflicts, but also that which hits us in general, I quote Bruce Lee: "I do not hit. It hits all by itself."
    The Way Out Of The Abyss
    Only when we can accept, what we want to let go, can we let go, of what we want to accept.
    A peaceful mind is the cure for restlessness.
    And love is the cure for a broken spirit.
    Pain is strength in disguise waiting to be revealed. And it takes a lot of strength to cry. Because when we cry, we open ourselves to the pain we experience.
    When all the waves are crashing down on you, there is faith to get you through. Express your belief in reality and believe in it. This is how you get through the waves.
    We make mistakes because we are not perfect. And for this fact I am grateful that I make mistakes.
    Remember that the solution to any problem, is the problem itself. It came into existence and it won't leave you.
    A sacrifice for love is a sacrifice worth dying for. We don't have to undo the things we do wrong or have done wrong in life. We die for it and thus sacrifice ourselves for love.
    Hence, die for your negative qualities. And live for your positive qualities. That is the sacrifice and the salvation of the human spirit.
    The guilt we feel is the one that enslaves us. Only when we also remember our innocence are we free at the same time.
    There is nothing in this universe that can harm a mad person. Except to make the mad person even more insane through harm.
    When one is ready to take in all hits, in order to gain strength from them and at the same time is ready to pass on all the love out of compassion to others; one will be as strong as a demon and as compassionate as an angel. A demonic angel.
    A victory can be achieved by resolving the battles within.
    When you give up fighting yourself and instead start absorbing yourself; you will be invincible.
    When you change the powers that hold you back, into the powers that hold your back, you will be unstoppable.
    You are an example of what a human being is capable of. Use the hits as fuel for the ascent.
    Because the greatest bliss is found when you make peace with your suffering. Because suffering is the root of blissfulness. If you love your suffering, blissfulness arises. And blissfulness is the key to heaven on earth.
    When you conquer yourself by loving yourself, your fears, your pain and ultimately your suffering; then it will transform you and you will be reborn.
    In order to overcome suffering, one must become suffering oneself.
    Because when you are one with all, you are bound by nothing and therefore free from everything.
    And by becoming one with suffering, you master it.
    The journey to enlightenment is a process that involves a lot of suffering. But in the end, every moment of suffering will be worth it. Because choosing to suffer consciously is the springboard to enlightenment.
    This is how you remember your origin and you begin to embody it.
    Because where there is suffering, the love spark resides. And the fire is kindled where God or consciousness enters and spreads.
    Become Ryu, the dragon. Become suffering. Have a relationship with the suffering (HIT ME) from sadness to madness. And become the suffering yourself, (HIT ME) and the hits. And Ryu, the dragon spreads its wings and rises with the darkening and the enlightenment. So the dragon finds the way out of the abyss.