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the scoreboard's still lacking the most important stat: healing received
Yep
Genji needs a new one, "LOS w/ support%"
fr tired of people complaining they get no healing when they steal the healers most of the game
i would get on my knees for bliz to add this.
I’d like them to bring back objective time too. I hate getting flamed by teammates because I’m contesting the objective and getting rolled, meanwhile they’re running around on Sombra playing deathmatch never touching the objective while the enemy team marches the payload and wins easily.
That slow af orisa 360 had me dying
real
I feel like this was on controller
shi caught me off guard and I died😭
SHE'S JUST SPINNING THERE... MENACINGLY!
this has to be controller
Blizzard on showing people's rank: "But if someone is lower rank they're going to get toxic!"
Blizzard on scoreboard: 💀
Also Blizzard: We removed the medals cause they are too toxic.
Blizzard immediately afterwards: Scoreboard baby!
The scoreboard is actually extremely useful and we have been asking for it for years, I swear this community is filled with sensitive snowflakes who can’t take an ounce of criticism and call anything “toxic”.
I will never forget a game I had where my lucio was flaming me for having less healing than him.
I mean if the rank difference is high then that's blizzard's fault but if it is within divisions then yea that would be toxic
@@Alirezarz62when it happend the most was at ranks like high gold low plat where people would see a gold player in their game who's like 1 mmr from plat and would blame the gold for the loss
I love how the main clip showcasing the “wall tech” was just zen unapologetically whiffing all of his shots. He wasn’t bamboozled by that play in any way, just an aim issue.
The music guessing one was fun. The only reason I even remotely miss 2cp is because volskaya hanamura and anubis had some of my favorite tracks
Still miss Volskaya sometimes. It was by far the least annoying 2CP map, in part because it was the only one that wasn't too easy to long contest.
@@timbombadil4046I miss them all to be honest, even though Hanamura was super annoying sometimes, IT'S HANAMURA LIKE DUDE GENJI AND HANZO LORE
all of them are great maps... thematically.
gameplay-wise, i'm happy they're gone lol
Volskaya routinely provided the best matches in my OW experience, which I wild because I hated 2cp.
@@FringeSpectre IKR
I used to duo tank and it was so much fun. Now my duo partner plays only DPS because they hate playing tank in 5v5. I still tank but only in short bursts. Feels like you can never play "your game." You always have to counter swap and/or constantly change your play style because the game's balance issues cause team quality to fluctuate wildly. It feels more like work than fun.
I love the scoreboard cause it can remind me when I'm on DPS to look at the squishies. If I have a shit ton of damage but low elims on Ashe, it let's me know what I'm doing wrong. But most people don't know how to even break apart the scoreboard, so it's mostly just a toxic cesspool lol
you could see your own stats before the scoreboard was a thing
@@burritoman8922 Lmao I also somehow forgot that for a second
^^^^^ kaijuu
I think it's really interesting, and pretty cool how the "return to 6v6" community is slowly getting louder and louder like, by the month. Honestly im all for it.
People have had enough suffering as the solo tank, we wanna go back to having someone else damage sponge as well.
They built OW2 to have 5v5 and with current balance 6v6 wouldn't be balanced at all so more likely to get a 4v4 then 6v6 back.
@@opticmidnight2629but it isnt balance for 5v5 either?
The Wall Lick and just standing still, is literally true in short bursts.
Yeah save for the wall lick, I see the standing still trick used plenty, though in smarter ways. Usually they do move, but instead of endlessly strafing, they'll stop for a second and move right when they know the sniper is going to shoot at them. To bait a shot they know they can dodge. But it's much smarter than just standing still and crouching/jumping.
The wall lick tho could definitely be used if used just as smartly. Especially if it's up against someone like kiriko/zen who just endlessly spam. A hanzo in close quarters, not so much if they're good. Also it's just lowkey hilarious to act like you're lagging out or something lol
Sometimes when i go up against new players (soldiers usually lol) they'll just back up into a wall or strafe into it and I'll miss a shot because I didn't expect them to be that bad to run into walls hahah
Honestly the best thing they could do for balance would be to use experimentals again. Especially to test more wide scale changes. Like lets say double hp for tanks, overall reduction on dmg/healing, overal increasing/reducing ultimate cost and other things like it. Even if they have no intention of adding them to live it could probably give some usefull data that could be used for the game.
Man thaank youuu I miss when fun things could exist instead of trying to water everything down :(
about scorbard: we had Sombra and she hit in 3! times less damage than me (5.5k to 17k - I played Bastion). BUT! she pissed off their supports, hacked the tank, while surviving as best she could (there were 3 times fewer deaths as well XD ) - it was one of the best games today, which we won in overtime =)
That's a good Sombra. Stopping the tank and supports so you could go brrrrr
A big thing about dmg too: if you're a sombra or a hanzo with high dmg...that's not good. That means your dmg is going straight to the support's heal stats instead of that character's death.
Good point. If one hero can tilt an entire team without technically "doing their job", then the tilted team might lose a player, someone might even give up or throw.
No thats a horrible sombra you dont just sit in stealth and hide the entire game hacking one person every 30 seconds, along with your bastion pick was also horrible. Thats why you went into overtime in the first place, Your tank and supports had to hard carry both of you.
Yup, I played Sombra to hack an annoying Ball player that kept harrassing our supports. I had the worst stats but my team thanked me for keeping the hamster away from them.
Ah yes, the hidden movement tech of NOT MOVING
As a Hanzo player. Please don't stand still. I have no idea how to hit headshots on players who don't move. You'll hard counter me I promise.
I would love MORE statistics available in the game reports afterwards.
Things like healing received for each character or self-healing received. That way we can better see what impact people are actually having and not just the basics
Honestly I would love if for the next anniversary they give us an ow1 game mode. I’m talking 6v6 and behave every map available even if it’s just an arcade mode I think the option would be super fun
overwatch classic
And UNrework all characters. That's right. I miss old Orisa.
Lmao I thought the rework was fun and cool af at first but now I think she's the most BORING character in the entire game lmfao
@@bambampewpew32THANK YOU orisa sucks now she's even more braindead than before. Take her shield fine but current orisa is balls to fight as and with
It would, but they won't because of the amount of toxicity that doing that would bring.
@@Algebruh2407 toxicity????? Why tf would that bring toxicity
I somewhat agree with the game being shaken up a couple weeks but playing into bastion now especially with a mercy pocket makes me wanna jump off a building
yeah there's no reason bastion should be that good, 360 damage per second in turret form is just ridiculous.
4:00 flat:this is everyone favorite map
Me:not if you hate them all
The running into walls and standing still is actually a high-rank Apex tech, it throws off the enemies aim when used in the middle of a fight, but it works for a split second at max and it'll kill you 9/10 times unless you do it perfectly, so take that as you will.
the 5v5 balance issue is the same thing Stylosa said in his video recently. Extremely good points made there. I thought I preferred 5v5 until I watched it.
Fun fact: the Eichenwalde music is based off of the 1st movement of Beethoven’s 9th symphony
flats falling for the bertythecow bait is pretty funny ngl
I think the issue is people dont understand how to read the numbers on the scoreboard. If your widow has 20 elims but 5k damage, that does not inherently mean your widow is under preforming. Had a torb that never got a final blow but had a bunch of elims because his turrets got him the assisted elim than talked about him carrying. If you dont know how to read the data you are given then you can very likely be misinterpreting it and leading you to playing the game in a twisted way that will get you stuck in your skill rank.
Yep this 100% there sooo many heros that farm stats moria is another bad one cause she can farm damage healing and elms super easy
@@crossdaboss8914 this is especially an issue in metal ranks with supports. I've had dps ask for healing because they were not getting any during the actual fight and supports would be like "look at my healing numbers" when they have both been hard pocketing the tank and keeping the tank at 100% health. They don't realize tanks can hang around half health and still be ok with their CDs.
yup which is why it did not need to be added.
@@wendigo374 or we could leave them because it lets me as a support player read them and adjust to what is happening and give calls. Idk about metal ranks but figure out how to use it as a resource.
@@mattiOTX wdym you don’t know about metal ranks? And no after the first team fight someone always types about the kdas or the damage when it comes to certain characters. It just gets old.
I would love to see a 6v6 role que added. Watch the populations of each mode swap and get player feedback on how it feels.
Dude I had that wall strafing one done to me on hanzo against Ana and I kept shooting out expecting her to move my mind just couldn't comprehend what was happening I was perplexed, dumbfounded, straight up baffled. I just stood there and rethought all my life choices up to that point how did I become so stupid? when did my choices lead to such idiocy? Then I got her with the ding and all was as it should be 😊
The flex of the 360 is the important part
the guess the map segment just feels like a kindergarten class learning the alphabet
something to keep in mind with balance, like flats said with season 3 and junkerqueen ROLLING, is that dps, support or tank, that season was kinda fun. Just like when soldier got buffed he really didnt need all that BUT it was a fun 1/2 season before the nerf, personally i like when certain hero's come in and out of the OP section.
Can confirm that walking into walls does work. I’ve never tried it but I have seen people do it when I’m trying to predict where they are going and it does screw with my aim sometimes. I doubt anyone does it on purpose but it always makes me laugh coz I’m like wtf are you doing
The amount times my friend just randomly hits a straight line strafe in 1v1’s and i miss everything because he’s usually a crackhead
I used to do this thing as geb in smite where id walk diagonally into a wall so i looked like i dc'd then id ambush them with my combo real fast before rolling away
Lately I've just been logging on to do my weekly challenges. And when I que "all roles", I get tank like 90% of the time, not exaggerating. Which is weird considering you only need 1 person to fill for tank, but 2 for every other role, so you would think tank would be the least likely, but I guess people just don't want to play tank.
This is for quickplay so take it with a grain of salt I guess, but looking at the que times, the fact that tank ques are the quickest when there's half the spots open for tank compared to every other role says something.
Yeah in ranked i mostly get dps, and then tank, but its almost 50/50. So thats still a sign that ppl are fed up on tank. I don't understand how its not obvious to the devs that support is busted af right now. Anti-heal needs a fat nerf, suzu, needs a nerf, and the healing passive should not exist at this point.
@@julicomo9815 removing the passive would be too cruel a nerf to the passive would be enough
Whenever someone says that they should add 6v6 again since Double Shield wouldn't be a problem, I laugh. The problem wasn't double shield specifically, it's tank duos and synergies in general. Almost every single problematic meta was centered around tank synergy.
Lets take a moment to imagine what 6v6 would look like right now in OW2: Tanks would be literally unstoppable. You think Orisa is unkillable now? Now she has a Zarya whose bubbles can fill the gaps between her cooldowns and make her actually immortal. Not to mention the removal of most stuns, which in 6v6 existed mainly to stop tanks in their tracks, and you'd have tanks that are wayyyy too overpowered. Even if you nerfed their numbers a bit, they'd be insanely powerful with a second tank and no CC. The only solutions would be to reintroduce all those hard stuns, which I doubt many people would be happy about, or nerf the tanks into oblivion, which would put us right back at the OW1 problem of tanks just not being fun 99% of the time. Something people also fail to remember about 6v6 was how god awful solo queueing tank was. 90% of the time you got a second tank that you just did not mesh well with at all, and with how important tank duos were, that was practically a death sentence.
And you can always say "well the devs should just balance better" but imo that's such a copout response that adds literally nothing to the conversation and doesn't solve any problems. Like damn, why didn't they think to just balance better before? If it was as simple as just "balance better", than the game would have almost no balance issues. There isn't just a switch you can flip to make the game better.
They would re nerf tank health if they added 6v6 are you okay??? Lmfao
And they would or at least SHOULD re add CC if they added or went back to 6v6
Yeah this is painful to read, double shield was the problem, nobody complained about tanks working together??? Man this guy is high while commenting I'm out
LMFAO
@@bambampewpew32facts bruh, lol.
@bambampewpew32 Way to miss every single point I made. Yeah, they'd re-nerf tank health, I'm fully aware. But that wouldn't stop tanks being broken since in order for them to be fun, people like tanks to be brawly, and that's not possible if their health was nerfed a shit ton. And everyone hated CC, not just tank players. Very few people would want that brought back. Re-introducing 6v6 would just put as right back where we were in OW1 where no one ever wanted to play tank.
And yes, Double Shield wasn't the sole problem with 6v6. It was tank duos. Genuinely, aside from Rein/Zarya, what tank duos were considered fun to play against? Dive, Goats, Brawl, Poke, Orisa/Hog, all were considered either boring or frustrating by the majority of the playerbase.
man i miss 6v6 more than anything i really wish they added a mode
Man me too :(
There's no universe you think Season 6 is at all good. Nothing ever dies
And if someone does die, it's because they got thrown off the map or got hit with 2,987,535 damage caused by the entire enemy team using the 5 most damaging hero's all on 1 person
fr@@Ninjapizza8247
These Overwatch TikTok’s have been awful at finding me a boyfriend
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These Ow Tiktok have been awful at finding me a girlfriend
How you doin?
Try being straight then
I started playing without music years ago, this was so nice to hear some of the music again
When I’m loading into games I’m usually tabbed out so I always made it a game of myself to guess the map based on just the music, it’s actually pretty fun/funny. Unfortunate that I know exactly when I’m loading into colosseo every single time though
Thank you for pointing that out! Success does not always translate into fun. I've won plenty of matches, and straight up had zero fun doing it.
Flats pretending to guess the map theme song, while reading the chat.
i do the 360 head spin as lucio in tight spots. the constant change in elevation with the 360 makes it almost impossible for someone to shoot my head
8:33 Oh yeah, this has F'ed with my aim so much. the slight moves are so ingrained in me now that even when I KNOW they're not moving I can't get myself to stop leading my shots
Man, I liked playing tanks, but I liked doing whatever jobs the other tank wasn't doing that was needed since I'm not too great but play better when more focused on a few things rather than everything; plus the pressure of being the only tank and receiving overwhelming amounts of grief from not being able to perfectly do everything as tank at all times just doesn't feel great. Even when I do manage to pull everything off to win/not throw, I just feel more exhausted than I do rewarded. The other roles have pairs so you have someone to fall back on and cover for and dynamically adjust for apparent strengths and weaknesses within that role.
at 7:28 Flats started going, “What is that melody?!”
Last guy was cooking hard for almost 3 minutes straight and didn't even burn it. Based as hell
The music guessing one gave me nostalgia
We need a new Egypt map. Temple of Anubis had such a great design, just stuck in a bad game mode.
Perfect balance is not the goal, 100% right, as a gamedeveloper, fun is the goal… (that or skins etc nowadays sadly)
Everything gets stale after a while, so just changing balance shakes things up, gets people to try new characters, new tactics etc etc.
That results in more fun and retention, people screaming about balance and hating the game, usually play the most….
That just means they are invested. And everybody knows that they love it when their main gets buffed…
Man, esperanca music BANGS
TW: temple of anubis load screen music
Legitimate PTSD hearing that lmaooo
man the music in this game is really good, really wish theyd just give us the option to disable overtime music since thats the only reason i keep music disabled
As someone that hasn't ever played with music once within my entire OW career, this was very difficult for me.
I do those 360 every time with tracer it just feels cool. And also I do it just to do something while reloading 😭😂
8:57
"PRESS FOLLOW
if the and the
when now it???"
Did anybody else nearly have an out of body experience reading that???
Here's the tank experience in OW2 hacked, slowed, hacked, hindered, slept, bashed, beamed, counter swapped and hacked.
the 3 guess the map sounded like star wars
im literally here just for the map theme guessing game
I think the most toxic thing would be splitting the damage stat between "Damage to Tanks" and "Damage to Other". That Soldier in a comp game can cry about how he "carried" because he had 10k damage in a 7 minute match, until you see 9k of it was on the opposing Orisa, lmfao.
but there also is a time and place to be shooting a tank so it wouldn't really work out either
Anubis music made me do a literal double take from breakfast.
all 3 "illegal techs" are viable mixups.
BUT
you need to test the waters before you commit to this. one that i use all the time is throwing in a long, straight strafe in a series of normal ADing. heros like hog do benifit from the 360 approach when aggressing a widow with high ground. your head is on the frontish of your body so from above its hard to get a HS as it spins around.
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As a queen main since season 1, I loved getting "balanced"
THE GASLIGHTING TIKTOK 7:50 LOLLLL
Ngl that music one made me really sad. I knew all of them and was finishing the themes in my head
05:35 I internally said Paraiso, since I thought that was the name of that map, but no its Esperance.
Doomfist.
Would having a 1 shield tank per team limit been better keeping 6v6 then what we have now. Then they wouldnt have to nerf all the dps and change all the cc.
I purely heard boss music
Not the thumbnail spoiling the quiz answers
No idea if this is a hot take or not but: maybe to "balance" counter swapping they could make it so you can switch characters once every objetive milestone -- if it's Push or Escorts, you can swap once whichever either team hits a milestone, or whenever you win a round of Control, for example. And of course, you can't see what the other team picked right away or if they even swapped.
The idea is that if you're losing and feel the need to swap, you have to wait for the team in front to reach a milestone, THEN you can swap and now it's absolutely crucial you make that swap worth it because you won't be able to switch back. And if you manage to turn it around, the other team has one final chance to swap themselves and try to counter you, which can become a bit of a bluff -- do you stick with your now winning strat or try to predict their swap?
I think this would add some mindgame potential and would make swapping more impactful and meaningful. If you swap, you HAVE to commit and make it count, because you have that brief window of opportunity where the enemy team cannot counter-swap instantly (they have to wait for the next milestone), which may allow you to gain some space. The other team has to hold their ground or try to predict your swap, and at a higher level, I feel like this back and forth would be really interesting to see. Thoughts?
I also thought that maybe swaps could be on a 3-5 minute timer, but honestly that sounded like a horrible idea the more I thought about it. You would just have people swapping without thinking, being immediatelly countered, and then they'd just have to wait on a timer to swap, and their teammates might be all on different times if they swapped at different intervals... nah. I think the milestone system would work better, because it's like "Hey do we swap now or keep going?" and once that decision is made, you move on, all at the same time. Everyone gets a chance to swap, doesn't mean they have to.
7:28 lol I thought all of them except 3 were dorado
I love the 4v4 in splatoon3, 5v5 is perfect for overwatch
ComPLETELY different games but okay LMAO
King's Row is the second best map right under Winter King's Row
When it comes down to hot takes i agree with Flats Most Times because He Can Explain his reasoning Well and has the Data to back it up.
since I still play with music on the music guessing game was easy as pie for me
Tank is no longer fun... It now feels like a job.
A good balance to counter swapping would be to hinder ult charge rate by say 50% (number can be discussed) for like a minute after swapping that way the countering character won’t come swinging in full potential.
my favorite maps is lijang then kings, bc Lucio rollout
I had to think for a second but I can widow on kings row both ways, so yeah def favorite
There is a difference between Winning and having fun, you can win as tank, but having fun while doing that is much harder now.
Weird cc in mobas it’s called a cripple meaning you cripple the character that is high movement and stop them from moving round so much such as tracer sombra etc plenty of mobas have this cc
As a doom, ball and Lucio player my favourite map is lijiang
I started playing when 2 dropped and New junk city is my favorite map
Temple of Anubis & Hanamura were the “Draw” maps.
Sad that so many mained dps... it kinda killed the game.
But i used to be a tank main, but you need to perform sooo well every fight that i am an ana main now 😂
Same here! I was always the offtank in ow 1 since I loved the flexibility of peeling for supports and your other tank but then also taking off angles. I feel like that playstyle ended up translating better into support in ow2
Been suffering a lot bc of Onetricks that doesnt know to swap, mostly tanks
I wonder if they added more info to the scoreboard if it would be better. Showing peoples finals blows so you don't have people getting flamed for low damage/elims while they have twice as many final blows as the other dps and theyre all solo kills
The junkertown clips of strafing into a wall were legit t500 players, the widow was bertythecow i think. strafe into a wall can throw off vs a projectile enemy for 1 or 2 shots before they realize what you're doing. but those 1-2 misses can buy u enough time
Not even to be different from King's Row, but Eichenwalde is my favorite 100%
I just realized. Cassidy has a more impactful ability nullify than Sombra 💀
hero bans fixes balance
I think the core problem that leads to counter swap being so oppressive is: there is not that many tanks and the counter tools are too strong,
The scoreboard is also broken, I've finished the first team fight of the match, and everyone on my team would have at least 5 kills... and the enemy team would each have 1 death
Just to make it clear, the scoreboard said [5 kills, 0 assists, 0 deaths] for my team, and [0 kills, 0 assists, 1 death] for the enemy team
Kills are calculated by how much damage someone does to another person, so if you damage someone by 99% of their health and your kill gets stolen, then it calculates both you and your team-mate getting a kill and not you or them getting an assist and the other person getting the kill
That also means if you do a miniscule amount of damage to someone, then go kill someone else then you still get kill credit as long as the other person dies without getting healed for the damage you did to them
All in all, if you see that you don't have as many kills as your teammates, that's because literally no one is helping you kill people, and you've gotten all your kills by yourself where as they haven't
that's not always true either
Dorado is one of the best maps next to Kings Row imo
I love Dorado
I turn music off on all my games lol so I had no clue which map was which
Eichenwalde is my favorite map
Overwatch should give us a 6v6 arcade mode
Facts, and with classic heroes like old Orisa and Doomfist.
Eichenwalde is okay
I do the "wall lick" all the time because I don't know my maps and I think I'll find a door there. Doesn't help. I get shot easy.
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I personally like New Junk City more than Kings Row, but that's because I like big maps with lots to explore in
esperanca hurts me
It would be interesting to see if overwatch2 pulled a paladins sort of deal, so before the game even started you would have to pick a hero and not be able to switch mid game.
would be interesting but also imagine playing against a echo pharah mercy while all your team has is zarya, symmetra, mei, lucio, and brig. like you just kinda instantly lose.
skill issue ig
@@lemonberry3242 it's a terrible idea not allowing swaps, but also you don't need hitscan for a pharmercy. You can just kill their lonely team-mates.