Details that you missed when these two movies are still Connected | Why Bumblebee got Reboot?
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2023
- For todays video lets talk about the Informations and Details that you missed before they announced that Bumblebee movie and Bayverse film is not connected anymore.
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Transformers 1
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Transformers: Age of Extinction
Transformers: The Last Knight
Bumblebee
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
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The reason they made the Bumblebee movie a reboot is because The Last Knight bombed at the Box Office.
Let's just say it did'nt go well the last knight was the disaster for the transformers franchise
@@Guywithskullface it was the final nail in the coffin
Isn't $605.4 million good box office, compared to $217-260 million budget?
@@tarasdovhyi552 not when compared to $1.124 billion dollars like Dark of the Moon made, even Age of Extinction brought in $1.104 billion dollars… and that movie was only slightly better than TLK
And cuz it sucked storyline wise
Man I really miss the bay verse good memories and good moments even tho some of the movies were bad it was still part of our childhood and the scenes really make sense too bad it’s not connected anymore
The Bayverse died with TLK.
To brutal tho
But im still watching Bayverse transformers on tv and youtube videos
@@nelsontaino7468 I mean like bayverse Optimus has seen his brothers die and fought a war over a century surely he can be brutal bc of that
Me too
Plus, in Bayverse timeline, Bee was on earth since WW2 and was fighting alongside Hot rod but for the Bumblebee movie timeline, You can see bee arrived to earth at the year 1983 if im correct but in the bayformers time line , bumblebee was there since world war 2 which yea this could relate the bumblebee movie to the bayverse but this just maybe a coincidence and it was really meant to be a reboot and not a prequel of the bumblebee movie before the bayverse timeline happend! Hope this information helps!
This is what I was gonna say ❤️👍
Well, retcons are actually a thing, so Bumblebee could have still been made as a potential prequel to the bayverse by retconning those past events or just to the original trilogy by decanonizing the two sequels.
It’s still a 42 year gap between the two that’s left unfilled on the timeline, that’s a lot of time with a lot of possibilities for things to happen, it’s clear Bee made his way back to cyberton sometime in that gap
@@zacharymessner6157 in the bayverse time line the cybertronian war was already happening which was in the 1930's megatron crashed into earth for the all spark because the all spark was launched into space but for the bumblebee movie the cybertronian war was happening a year or so berfore the events of the bumblebee movie which was actually late due to the cybertronian war on the bayverse timeline lasted for years
@@midnightasve The cybertronian war raged on for many years likely before the 1900s-1987 and even still it hasn’t ended as it was just moved to Earth and various parts of the galaxy
Than Jazz, Ironhide, Ratchet, and Sideswipe are coming back in the Future Movies? Would be nice to see them again
They’re still alive in this new continuity so anything is possible
It's Ratchet, Ironhide and Brawn
They have to come back they I swear if they don’t come back I would be really sad
Hope they make it multiversal. We'll see 2-3 different optimus primes teaming up or fighting each other❤
I don’t believe Bumble Bee and ROTB are connected to the Bayverse films unless the robots hit puberty big time from the 1990s into 2007 also Optimus Prime had already come to earth in ROTB and he didn’t go to earth until Bumble told the autobots where the all spark is. Bumble Bee in the Bayverse was sent by Optimus Prime to see if the glasses were on earth. So that is why this is a completely different universe
There was a bumblebee comic wich was connected to the bay films so the 2018 bumblebee movie was originally a prequel but that was changed
In transformer last knights bumblebee and hot rod were in Ww2 and bumblebee movie take place in 1987,thats mean bumblebee movie is reboot
I’m missing bayverse, to me it is better than now and I think it also deserves a good end for the story
There is a fan made movie that’s gonna put a end to the Bayverse
i think reboot is a good idea. because bayverse timeline and his movies had lot of mistakes. TF 4 and TF 5 are not good connected .so i think that idea was good
Road to 100k🎉 Edformers
Thanks man ♥️
I miss bay formers so much but now we will get G1 live action
Didnt realise all of these i only realise the camaro one thanks for the details
Bumblebee came out in late December
No last knight said bumblebee came during ww2 if connected to bayverse
Well to me, I think that it’s going to be the bumblebee movie rise of the beast, Transformers, G.I., Joe, rise of unicorn and finally transformers war on Cybertron
the Bayverse timeline is finally comeplete and now the reboot transformers has a new timeline
Edformers never disappoints ☕
Thanks man ♥️
@@Edformersnot reboot this is time treval
@@Edformersi cannot be "why we get (transformers rise of unicron bayverse then) this is from past that we watching (so that past becomes future) than we get bayverse back"they didnt add megatron and sentinel prime in past than we will get them in future " megatron in 2007 transformers and sentinel prime in DOTM (((( ITS TIME TRAVEL)))) AND ITS STILL CONNECTED AND WE NEED SIGMA TRANSFORMERS NOT BABY TRANSFORMERS
Omg TF have made lot of stories
Thanks to explained that Bro
Anytime ! Thankyou ♥️
2:56 They had Megatron body in ice fire years do you think seeing his race would shock them?
There is actually Sector 7 in the Bumblebee movie, and i hear Jack Burns called Simmons, that guy is actually Simmons from Transformers bayverse timeline🔥🔥
very nice man!
Thanks!♥️
Great vid man, crazy I never noticed this
Thanks bro ♥️
R.I.P bayformers 2007-2017
I think the next movie is tf revenge of unicron
First Hi edformers love your vids ❤❤
Hey, thanks! ♥️
I love your videos!!❤❤
I like this theory ❤
When he return to making his movies Michael bay will make the best transformers movie is rise of unicron and some new characters with their design.
He will never direct another Transformers movie. He helps produce them now.
Fanboyish comment he’s never returning 🤦🏾♂️
He specifically said that the last knight would be his last transformers movie he directs, and given the failure of said movie… it’s best to leave well enough alone
HE'S NOT RETURNING 𝔻𝕀ℙ𝕊ℍ𝕀𝕋
Nice 👍❤ love your videos
Thanks bro ♥️
I think bumblebee should have his voice and his head design be changed to resemble his G1 so that it even further separates the new stuff from bayverse
Nah! I'm good with his design
Producer of Transformers ROTB Lorenzo said it is not a reboot it is prequel. So the whole transformers franchise started to look like X-men franchise.
In youtube you are so underrated this videos was amazing !
I appreciate it man , Thankyou !
@@Edformers not problem man
But of course, to every single other transformers fan, that we know which day they’re probably gonna watch in the exact order bumblebee to the last night
What if, Bumblebee movie, is a starting point for both timeline. So, there's two timeline, Bayverse timeline, and Rebooted timeline. Bayverse timeline: At the end of BB movie, some Autobots landed on earth for a pit stop (That's what Mirage say in ROTB), and successfully coming back to Cybertron to continue the war. But, Bumblebee didn't come with them. He choose to stay at Earth, that's why Ratchet doesn't able to fix his voice completely. Rebooted timeline: Well, I don't have much to talk. Because, if you watch Rise of The Beasts, that's what I'm gonna talk about. Either way, I will tell in short. So, some Autobots came to earth, but didn't able to return to Cybertron, and stuck in Earth for 7 years, and the rest are told in ROTB
Transformers 2007 Optimus Jazz iron hide and ratchet are coming down to earth and bumblebee was already there, but if you look at the bumblebee movie, Optimus and bee are talking, so it doesn’t really make sense how bee and Optimus are talking in the bumblebee movie, but in the 2007 movie Optimus was coming down to earth with the others
In the Cybertron scene in vehicle mode, when Bumblebee shoots at the seekers, they make the same sound as the Decepticon ships in Transformers 3
It’s honestly best that they made this new timeline (despite whatever the fuck Lorenzo says), it gives them a new opportunity to tell new stories with the characters without being restricted by the bayverse
I saw a video on CZcams that it was a theory about expecting the designs or cast, and one of the comments there said that it was an animated movie on the Knightverse timeline and it is a different director that Travis Knight
by the way, there is news that Michael Bay will release with his team Transformers 6: The Rise of Unicron, which will be released in 2027, but it is not known whether this information is true or not
Another detailed connection is in transformers the last knight, Optimus Prime said he has not heard bumblebee's real voice since Cybertron fell. And in bumblebee movie intro, bee used his real voice to talk to Optimus, before leaving and get his voice box destroyed by blitzwing.
make a theory on where was battletrap and nightbird when scourge was in the maximals world
I hope they show them the old Maroge, but with the red
I think I want bumblebee movie and tranformers rotb connected bayverse that is good
Unfortunately, it wouldn’t make any sense since the last knight had a lot of plot holes that screwed up the time line, including Bumblebee being on earth during WW2
Smart move
That's why optimus prime was coming to earth with the other transformers
i once like in 2017 or 2016 saw a video that showed when transformers films were supposed to release it got the last knight correct bumblebee correct and even rise of the beasts i remember like there was also year 2025 so my thought is next movie will be in that year but its just my theory cuz its crazy it got all of them correct
Still doesnt make sense, Optimus arrived on earth in Bumblebee movie having vehnicle mode, but in TF1 he didnt have anything and he just arrived on earth and he scanned a truck
Good movie idea to continue with the rotb timeline. Transformers, Beacon of extinction.
So the opening of the movie will take place just months after the events of bumblebee
Where it will explain of why decepticons were missing in the events of rotb. They actually got the signal from dropkick and shatter in the bumblebee movie, maybe a little bit. And it's all thanks to Shockwave. He used his technology to pick up a little signal from earth, so they know where the autobots are. So they went to earth, but instead of attacking, they established a plan to create a beacon with the power of the allspark to corrupt autobots in their way, turning them to decepticons. So they started crafting the beacon till 1995, (a year after rotb) they launched the plan and started placing the beacons, where the beacons would start corrupting random autobots, turning them to decepticons. And then the decepticons attacked the autobots. Optimus prime order the others to run away and establish a base while optimus prime try to stop them. Fast forward to 2002. Almost half of the autobots were wiped out. And prime was hiding in a junkyard. Till he got a call from ratchet, he was told that their newly build base was under attack by the decepticons again. Optimus prime was shocked to hear the news, immediately rushed to the new base, where ratchet gave the coordinates. When arrived optimus attacks the decepticon revealing a cool battle scene. He managed to save all the other autobots. But he was too late to save the others, Wheeljack, Bumblebee and stratosphere were corrupted, giving new designs and names such as Hornet (bumblebee), Riotfall (Wheeljack) and Dynamic (Stratosphere). Now only prime, mirage and arcee is left and they gotta save their kind from extinction. Later on they would meet other autobots that were not affected by the beacon like hound and later we would see drift as he quits from becoming a decepticon.
And in the final battle, megatron and optimus prime come face to face while megatron is also assisted with bumblebee. Meanwhile, the other autobots are also battling the decepticons and trying to hold them for long enough while optimus, bee and megatron is fighting. And this battle is ended with optimus making bee wake up from his decepticon form. Optimus prime got knocked down, he stand back up again to fight megatron while bumblebee starts rushing to the beacon to destroy it, however he was stopped by shockwave and soundwave, and bee needs to fight them in order to get to the beacon. And then we can get a cool scene where it transitions to optimus prime vs megatron and the autobots vs the decepticons and back again until bumblebee finally stuns shockwave and soundwave, quickly he rushed to the beacon and destroys it. And runs to optimus prime and helped optimus prime deal with megatron. And after a few punches, slices and blasts megatron was finished. And not just megatron was finished, the decepticons too. And then they all grouped up, while prime holds megatrons head and made a speech where a reference to the transformers the movie 1986 where they all group up and says till are one.
And the end.
Nice explanation, thank you.. for me, now there are two universes of transformers exist. Maybe after The Last Knight, there something happen that change the transformers history from the beginning.. we will know it later. What we saw since Bumblebee movie was history fix, maybe include time travel element..
Me and you are right in my life watching transformers I new that all transformers are together has one
In Other Words YES They Came To Earth AFTER Unicron's Defeat
In the beginning of Bumblebee Megatron is not with his Decepticons Sector 7 him and the All-Spark Cube so the Director needs put it back as a Prequel.
Maybe Next movie of transformers is not rhe rise of the unicron
Fun Fact: The 1986 Movie Takes Place In 2005 So Yeah THATS Canon To Bayformers
Edformers what text to speech voice are you using and whats the music background name
At 7:35
I just noticed, u can see bumblebee’s fingers in the blaster
Look at muzzle then the yellow behind it the look at the parts that are grey and connected
There’s his fingers
bumblebee is like a rail connecting to 2 other rails. You can still use it as a prequel to bayverse, but can never connect to The caple verse.
Or, use it as a reboot, but can never link the caple verse to the bayverse
so how u explain to the Arrival on Earth Scene on 2007?
Be it a box office disaster but I love Transformers The last Knight.
Bro bumblebee isn’t a reboot and neither is rise of the beasts it’s all in the same continuity, that’s why Megatron isn’t in these movies, the director said he was going to bring megatron into these movies but because of the 07 film he would either be in the arctic or in sector 7
nice theory thoo
Thanks man♥️
I don't think i would be alive till other 3 transformers movie
Yess , i am so happy
It’s because bumblebee movie and rise of the beast are in the 1990 tes like 1994 and then after that’s probably came 2007
What happened to Nest Base before attack Sentinel prime
Well obviously it's a reboot, since Bee arrives on Earth in 1986-1987, while in TLk he is there in 1940 or earlier.
Bayverse has so many problems on the timeline...
1:35 bumblebee is not bayverse it’s part of the of another film universe
in the bayverse the story is not complete because we dont know about the organism aliens who appears in the entrance of age of extinction and i am very sure the are connected with transformers 6 in bayverse if its gonna happen and what about quintessa who is she what she wants exactly? she is very mysterious we have no idea about her and the most important thing is about unicron how he will rise from earth and what is the connection between the matrix of Leadership and unicron because in the comics the are connected somehow there many questions about ths end of the last knight ending and we will never know the answers unfortunately 💔
Make sense I thought the same thing
Bumblebee is 100% a prequel. Them trying to make it tie into rise of the beasts reboot doesn't work especially since sector 7 got retconned out of existence
They’re both prequels
@davidhinkle9739 it's heavily connected
@davidhinkle9739 no
@davidhinkle9739 Listen to the director/producer/studio they are prequels
@@zacharymessner6157u need to see a doctor, u and all the people believe these movies are prequels of Bayverse
Another reason you think the cableverse is connected to the bayverse is that in the last knight. Nemesis prime stabed bee in the chest and bee started talking to Nemesis/Optimus. Optimus prime stand up and told bee that he hadn't heard his voice since cybertron fail.
In the bumblebee movie at the beginning, the deceptacons were attacking the autobots at cybertron. Optimus was wondering where bee was until he showed up to see him saying that he was late. This was when he use to be B127. Bumblebee had his own voice at cybertron back in 1987 and not his radio voice.
Optimus prime was hearing bees voice saying sorry I'm late, ugh Optimus. The last time Optimus heard bees voice was back in 1987 when cybertron was falling. Back to the last knight. After Optimus stood up surprised to hear bees voice he told be that he hadn't heard it since cybertron fall. And that was back in 87. The last knight took place in 2017.
Yeah, but in TLK Bumblebee was on WWII, and on the new timeline, Bee lands on Earth at 1987
By the way sideswipe, do you know on the wreckers from transformers dark of the Moon all die offscreen or hidden or something idk for sure shame we never see what happend now reset button on last night left on a cliffhanger :C
But Optimus just got to Earth when they met Sam. Remember, Optimus arrived to Earth in Protoform then he scanned the truck and straight forward to meeting Sam. So, how Bumble Bee was able say that his name is Bumble Bee if they never met in the firs place? So, how was Optimus knew that B-127 was already Bumble Bee? Bumble Bee and Optimus Prime never met before meeting Sam. So, how is that possible?
Hey edfomers can you make a video that where bumblebee scan a jungle camero please
HI CAN I ASK CAN YOU MAKE A EXPLATION WHY HOUND AND DRIFT CROSSHAIR
Why they didn't apper in rise of the beast and where did go
oh man I wish bumblebee movie is not a reboot 0:37
I think we gotta get similar like NEST in next movie in end of tf rotb we can see how Noah talk to with some man he says:
We can cooperate with you giants.
I think in next movie will make new organization like NEST this only theory
6:37 you forgot that in Transformers the last knight that what's her name Qwinntesu or something is still alive,I think Megatron is alive to even if he had his arm cut off and getting tossed of the Qwinntesu or what ever her name is ship I doubt that would be able to kill him and that Unicron is the core of the Earth you know what I mean.
I wish they make another bayverse movie in the future
Your explanation and facts are interesting and true, about me i long time have thought about "Is "Bumblebee" a prequel or reboot ? And actually i didn't react much when it announced reboot, in spite of my love to "Bayverse" (yes even "TLK" i like) it have mistakes and disadvantages, but some time ago i started think about it and now my verdickt is "Bumblebee" more prequel than reboot, firtsly that Megatron wasn't in movie and it's strange that in beginning he wasn't with decepticons and actually initially in movie must was be scene where Megatron keeps in hoover dam but it cut that movie was more independetabl, secondly it's Sector 7 yes this organization was only in "Bayverse" and it presence here comfirms memories about prequel, although one time i heared that one man told that Sector 7 added in movie like organization "S.H.I.E.L.D" in Marvel, and i have laughed from it comparing a pike to a shark, man. About "S.H.I.E.L.D" knew a lot of in government, but Sector 7 was very secret organisaton, and how i remember only president of USA knew about it, and actually Sector 7 disbanded after 1st part. Bee transform in the same Comaro like in 2007 movie, and your words that and how Bee lost voice in battle comfirms it (because in movie really didn't mention in what battle Bee lost voice).
I count it
Plus the GI Joe movies
So rise of the beats is chronologically after bumblebee movie right which means sequel or is just a reboots movie? And is the rise of the beasts have some or not some connections to Bayverse movies ?
Every one eveb Michael Bay can admit the Bayverse is done....Except the producer 😅
Can you a theory. About how that transformers can. See when there driving
Did quintessa know about sentinal prime and all the other primes?
3:51 He 💀
Transformers movies were just a box-office success but critics and neutral audience (except transformers fans) didn't liked the movie that much. Not Proper character development, improper execution of the story, showing the same things are some of the reason why transformers are worst rated by critics. And main reason the series was rebooted, was box-office failure of TF-5 which was 600M$ which was comparatively low compared to previous movie which almost crossed 1 billion. Also Michael bay was bored of the series, he was going to leave after TF-3 but paramount somehow convinced him to create another 2 movies and it failed.
Ed, I’m confused in transformer one Optimus prime comes back to earth with ratchet, iron, hide and jazz. How exactly would he go back in the spaces in immediately come back
You forgot something the las one was rise of unicron
Rise of the beast 2 i saw it in google i wanna watch it but it said movie dont have a link
Maybe they split it in half
What location is your home. Im from san jose del monte and i like all live action transformers including transformers rise of the beasts
Can you make a theory why rhinox doesn’t talk in the whole movie
Moi aussi je penser à cette théorie quand je regarder transformers pour la première fois 😎💯 pour moi lorsque bourdon 2018 est sortie pour moi dans l'histoire c'était dans ce sens là que je voyais l'histoire
I wish that they connected to bayformmers time lain
Actually if the bumbelbee movie really was connected to the bayverse that will make even less sense considering the the timeline like ww2 was in the 80s? And that also doesn't make sense about when the bayverse events happened
Can you make the last movie in transformers rotb in general secret g.i joe there's a big plane
Wait in age of extinction transformers we see in Optimus primal because hunt him lockdown he's want to hunt Optimus primal his lock in the ship and escape in ship lockdown so is connect bumblebee movie and rise of the beast?
Not connected. Cause bumblebee got new car mode but old body in rise of the beast