Kubota BX-B-L-MX-M | What series is right for you?
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"BX is the gateway drug" LOL love it!!!
This was so helpful thanks!
Thinking my first tractor will be Kubota. Still enjoying this CZcams channel from the past few years to today
Best explanation I've ever heard for the Kubota line of tractors! Great job!
Really good overview. I got the B2601 and I love it!
This is one of the few pieces of information I have found that makes a stab at relating tractor model (size) to acres of property. Much appreciated!
Thanks Neal. Really good overview of the differences between each level of tractor. Super helpful for new buyers, I think. Cheers!
Hey GP, didn’t Know you knew about this Chanel, actually found your channel after watching a bunch of messick’s... big fan, keep it up!
Same here really, love both channels! GP, this really solidified the difference between the different models of B series you were talking about in your video covering why you bought the one you did. I did not realize the significance of the size difference! All the best to you both, thanks Neal!
There is a lot to digest in the Kubota lines of tractors but you did a nice job of breaking up each series. Thanks.
Great overview, Neil. Love that Kubota orange!
Great video - bad roof. We love our MX5200 HST. A very nimble machine for its size. Your videos helped us decide what tractor fut our needs the best. Thanks!
You nailed it Neil, I love my mx5800 and the big wide rubber all the way around
Thanks for your videos, I have learned a lot. Was looking at L6060 at one dealer, then went to another dealer that was closer and they recommended MX5800. Knew the MX6000 was coming, but wanted open station and MX5800 was mature. Went with MX5800 and like it a lot. Super easy to use.
Thanks Neal. I've watched all your others videos on these tractors, but it is always helpful to hear it again and again. One thing that guys like me need is a larger tractor, not just for application but just plain old big dudes. The B series is probably overkill but the size of the BX is just too small and cramped for me. Thanks for all the hard work on the videos.
I just ordered a b2650 with cab for the sole purpose of plowing snow. can't wait!!!!
I just ordered my 1st tractor. The B 2301, I only have 1 acre so I think it’s all I’m going to need. Thank you for your videos as they have really helped me throughout my tractor hunting process.
Dude you do a great job of informing people and I’m saying these as someone who’s owned over a few backhoes. 30 years ago I owned Case 580 case 480 Bolens 26 hp then Finally my first B21. But then I needed more and more so I bought a new Grand L with cab,air ect with a woods backhoe. Well after running the B21 for 1,400 hours I thought the bigger Grand L would do more but I only broke everything on it. Needless to say I sold it and got another B21. So thanks for these videos because back in the day it was mostly trial and error ! Seriously tell your boss that you sir are doing a good thing for your customers.
My first tractor was (is) a used M9540D ROPS, with an LA1353 loader. I have to admit that I was spoiled starting out with all that power and weight.... I even managed to break a few things learning how to properly use it. But now I've just purchased a new B2650 with a cab; loader; snow plow and snow blower, to do the things that I can't do with my larger tractor.... like working around my landscape and clearing snow from smaller spaces.
We absolutely love our 06 MX5000
Great and informative video Neil. I always look forward to your videos.
Excellent video as always. I just wish you had a dealership in SC Iowa. But i will continue watching your videos anyway.
Great video! Very helpful. Thanks!
You are by far the best source of knowledge!
My first Kubota experience was with the B7100 back in the late 90s, my dad bought one for his 5 acres. He then bought an L3010. I have had that L3010 for the last 4 years after he passed away. Great little tractor, but I have 22 acres and wanted a cab, so I got the L4760. LOVE IT. Having that heat and AC, a radio, and all that power is awesome. Still have the L3010...that L3010 actually has a lot of nice little features, some that cost extra on the new Kubota line. It also seems a bit beefier than comparable models today....I’ll never sell it, its an 8 speed and only has 345 hours lol....purchased in 2000...
Great Video Neil. Thank you.
mine is a mx5000, manual open cab with a roof. 4x4. loader. this thing is the cats meow. very nice, very worthy. highly recommend it.
My brother loaned me his B2650 for a few weeks for cleanup and tree removal after a recent hurricane came thru lower Alabama. I took care of it, but I seriously put that thing thru hell for three weeks felling and skidding 50-75' pine trees, pulling up stumps, and digging drainage ditches on my property and for two of my neighbors, and I'll tell ya that's one tough machine. Very fuel efficient too, which is critical when local gas stations are closed and the nearest fuel is a 90 min drive and a 45 min wait away. I now own an LS MT225E, which is comparable to the B2650, but that orange beast will always hold a special place in my heart. Nothing but respect for Kubota. 👍
Hello from Kubota Lodi. Great videos.
You mentioned how new owners of BX series tractors are impressed by their capabilities. I have a B2620 that I use for a lawn mower and also use to maintain some other land I have. I find as a lawn mower it is just average but when I get it out into a field it never fails but to amaze me with its capabilities acts like a much larger tractor.
Ya my husband got one and he yards wood with his thay are so much power more than what he needs lol
Thx. I wish my local dealer could've done this.
Neil workin up a sweat....nice to watch on a cold night...
Neil, you are on point, I walked into my local tractor dealer and there was a lot that you will absolutely learn a lot about tractors from a dealership. I absolutely can vouch that very few tractor dealers that are anything like a car/light truck dealership. I absolutely am thankful and appreciative of your advice. Amazingly, the three salesmen and myself kept coming back to the one that I originally was thinking about getting from the start. It was an eye opening experience. There was so much that I, a farm kid, had many misconceptions and caught a few errors on the website. There are a lot of things to keep in mind. Especially, the sales basis and which types of machines they specialize in as well as location of the dealership. The one on one abilities and knowing limitations.
Outstanding overview. Thanks so much, Neil. I could have benefited SO much from an overview like this, when I was first getting into equipment myself 5 years ago, upon buying a farm for the first time.
I'll throw out one more tip, which you alluded to in passing. So many discussions for new tractor owners focus on "how many acres ya got?", but the question should be "how many acres will this equipment be used for?" But someone even with 50 acres "of land", and even "most of it cropland" still does not need to factor in those acres, if someone else is farming that for them. And yep, that may seem obvious to many readers.
But even if you get that point right, the next question will be say "so whatcha gonna use it for?" And the first-time land- and tractor-owner may not really know.
They may think they want it to maintain the brush on the perimeter of the fields (which might equate to a few acres), and they may want to use it to maintain where the perimeter of their home lawn meets some woods. Maybe they'll realize they also want to maintain their gravel road (and may want to plow snow). They may or may not realize they could want to later create/tend some trails in their woods, and so on. All these could likely be done (indeed might better be done) with a much smaller tractor than a dealer might direct you to if you left it at merely saying, "well, I just bought a 50 acre farm", as Neil noted in passing.
And I must say that the Kubota dealers near me were not very helpful on this, expecting me to know what I needed. I'd never even started a tractor, so I had know idea at all. I get it: they make their money on volume, competing on low prices, and maybe they don't get a lot of "newcomers" in. But the dealer of another brand was very helpful and patient with me and my questions, and got my business.
And even with the help I got, I know now that I could have made still better choices. A video like Neil's here could REALLY be valuable to someone in that situation. That's my main point.
And I might even now lean toward a Kubota if I decide to replace my current tractor. Of course, now the focus will be on how well instead the dealers do support (versus sales to a newcomer). That will be a leading factor in any switch. If I lived in south central PA instead, there would be no question where I'd take my business!
You guys are awesome (as the overview video on the company confirms even more). Thanks again for all you do, especially helping of who are NOT blessed to live nearby! :-)
Can’t go wrong with the LX model 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I have the l3901 really nice tractor
I have an MX5800 and am very impressed with it. It handles a 7' brush hog, a 15' batwing mower and with a grapple on the front and a log skidder winch on the back it does a great job dragging and lifting logs! Because I do so much logging I'm looking at upgrading to an M6060 or M7060. I love Kubota diesels because they are bulletproof and they start easier in the winter than most gas engines.
Bought the M7060 2 years ago for 252 acre ranch in Texas. 150 acres of that is a pecan orchard. It does a great job mowing, brush hogging, lifting 12 ft logs and baling hay. It's my daily work horse. Won't disappoint you.
Brilliant review
As others have said, great video and great concept to feature the suite of capabilities. I only wish that I could have had such a wonderful orientation a couple of years ago as I started to give serious consideration to a purchase. If I may, perhaps you may wish to consider a second part to this concept during the winter and compare the tractors and how they perform with blades, buckets, forward, and rear-mount blowers. I am quite certain that such a comparative video will help many more folks make a better choice and pave the way to a purchase fat earlier than would otherwise be the case. Thank you again and keep up the fantastic work!!
That should have read “far”, not “fat”. Oh the joys of bifocals on an iPad 😩
I'm using my B3200 on 16 acres. I'm going to use this video to justify that new MX or Grand L since Neil said the B series is recommended for 10 acres or less. Thanks Neil! :)
You've clearly been holding on to this video for a while. It's hot and none of the new models mentioned...
So here is my story of what drove me to get a bx2380. I have a little more than 2 acres of land and only about 1/3 an acre of "lawn", the rest is moderately dense with large full grown and small sapling trees. I have about 500 feet of a non-paved driveway. I have a LOT of landscaping issues to deal with, top of the list is putting in a new lawn. First off, while I'd love to own a back-hoe, I just don't see much use for one. I rented one last year to trench an electrical line and put in an inground trampoline...beyond that...maybe a future semi-permanent building that could use some footings, but I can't see spending the extra 5k for something I cant figure out how I would use it regularly. Mowing my lawn weekly and doing various landscaping projects are my driving needs. I was all set to get a bx1880, as the hydraulics are the same as the other bx models, but in the end, I went with the 2380 for 2 reasons...first, im short and the thought of not having a tilt steering wheel was nagging at me...if I spent all that money and was uncomfortable everytime I used the tractor, I wouldn't be happy. Second, for some reason, you can't get the R4 tires on the 1880, and I would've had to spend up another $500+ to get a set...so at the end of the day, I went with the 2380, got the tilt wheel, and the bonus of more pto hp at the rear and the tires I want, as well as some arm rests(because I'm old and the more comfort the better). So, the moral of the story is that sometimes it's the smallest things that can drive someone into a different model...and a good salesman should be able to flesh these out of a customer.
Can I get you guys a quote on replacing that roof? ;)
We use a B1820 on roughly 14 acres of vineyards 🙂 For us it's important that the tractor can fit and turn between 6*8 ft planted vineyards. The tractor is about 9 years old now and it's still running perfectly. We use a rototiller twice every year once in March/April and once in May/June. Though the rough soil in our vineyards here in the island of Cyprus is not easy on our rototiller. Splitting a chain or even have the gearbox axle split in half twice in between 4 years is not surprising 😅
Would love some more content on rototillers! 😉
Hey Bud, time to fix the front roof. It looks like you are in need of some shingles. Nice break down on the tractor series too.
Might just be the north facing part of the building. Due to lack of sunlight algae forms but it can be easily removed with a sprayer and simple solution.
Precious video. I may suggest you upload a newer version of this very same video but with some infographics with facts, figures and comparisons along the running video. It will help us all understand better all this precious matter.
Thank you and greetings from Portugal.
Your next video should be on the Kubota biker wave or nod.
I feel like I almost have to wave at other people towing or operating a Kubota, when I’m on/towing one. Even if they are on a bx and I have the M59 in tow, no class discrimination in the Kubota brotherhood. 🙏
I know you are the Kubota guy, but an overview like this on the New Holland line would be great too. Thanks Neal
its coming.
Great video
No sooner than you finished the "Index", here comes the LX.
Great Job on the video. You should do a comparison on the MX 58 HP and the L6060
czcams.com/video/yF-f9_zkW4U/video.html
Fall of 2019: "We have 12 different horsepower ranges, with 7 tractors in each range available. We have 17 attachments for each of those tractors"
Fall of 2021: "We have 1 two wheel drive 17 horsepower tractor available, and a used hay rake to sell with it. Price? check hourly for updates"
The difference between back then and 2021 is the question customers have is “what do you have in stock?”
Thankfully in Australia we do not have silly emission laws saying a tractor engine above a certain power rating needs a bunch of emission stuff. It’s bound to happen here soon though.
My husband got a 2019 bx23s he yards wood with his
You didn't mention about the new M8 coming next year
Neal, which Kubota is nearest to a direct replacement for a NH TA 33 DA w/ a 14 LA loader? What is the max load weight of this NH combination? sdh in CT
Can you tell and show us the New LX series? Would like to see more of the cab, inside.
They don't ship for 3 months. The cab bits though are the same as the current series.
You might get some hedge trimmers
Just go straight to the M8
L2901? Did I miss the memo? You meant 3901 right?
Okay. I am looking at up grading from my 70 year old 8-N Ford "go to" tractor to something more modern. I currently use the 8-N to run a 5' rear mower, 6'rear blade to move snow & dirt, a dirt scoop, corrugate my 7 acres, lift small items with a lifting pole (weak hydraulics due to age) and run a post hole digger with a 6" auger and a 12". I will be starting a Fresh Produce/Market Garden here on the farm this year, so what ever I up grade to must be able to operate a rotary tiller and etc. for that application. A FEL would be handy for compost, mulch & etc., plus it should have some sort of creeper gearing for the tiller. What would be your suggestion/s for the Kubota line up. I do have other, larger tractors on the farm that can pickup some of the 8-N's workload. Thanks! : )
Standard L, L2501 or L3301
@@MessicksEquip Thanks for that. Now to find a Kubota dealer near me...
Can tell us the model of each tractor.
What about the L4701
Hi NeilHave been watching your vids a long time, I hope the condition of the roof behind you is not an indication of how you look after your business and customers because the customers will be getting wet inside the building and the plywood will all need replaced if you don't soon replace those shinglesKevin
That building is not really part of our business. We just use the parking lots.
Neal, quick question concerning the loader lift capacity between the B2650 (w/ loader LA534) and the L2501 (w/ loader LA525). In nearly every video I hear people say the L series has a higher lift capacity, than the B series. While that may be true for the B2601 or the larger L series tractors... it seems to me that when it comes down to these two particular tractors (B2650 vs. L2501) that according to the stats themselves that the lighter B2650 could outlift the heavier L2501 if one had proper ballasts on the machines. Is this not correct? Yes, I understand the B weighs less, but again, I am assuming we have ballast. Doesn't the number on the loader report the loader's capacity in Kg? Or is the L2501 capable of lifting more than Kubota reports, while the B lifts less? Anyway, can you provide any insight on this? I want to stay with 25 hp, and well...I like everything about the B better than the L other than the digital instrument panel (had one fade after 15 years on an ATV). The B has nicer sway bars and location of the loader controls position IMO.
lots more to a loader that its simple lift spec. The L-series lifts higher than the B, the lift measurement it taken at full height and capacity drops as height goes up. I suspect you'd find the L-series does lift more at the same height. It also has more reach, longer boom, etc. See the 'loader lies' video. It talks though some of this.
@@MessicksEquip I saw that...and also this one. Nice videos btw. czcams.com/video/ktYs9VxyOWc/video.html
My understanding was the "loader lies" was about deceptive practices by various brands and/or various dealers to try to report false data of inflated numbers. Between the two tractors I mentioned, the measurements came from the same party, Kubota, and since both machines are Kubota I would assume they would be objective. That said, now see the LA525 lifts about 8" higher. I also now see that the LA 525 has a break out force of 2,462 lb.(or 1847 lb. @ 500mm forward of Pivot Pin), while the LA535 has a break out force of 2321 lb (or 1691 lb. 19.7" forward of the pivot pin). So, yes, you are correct that any specific heigh the 2501 may be slightly more capable. That B2650 though seems to be a very impressive machine for its weight class. Thank you for bringing this to light. You are the first dealer that explained why the smaller number may be able to lift more (apparently 150# or so) when AT THE SAME HEIGHT. I again appreciate your knowledge on the subject.
They still make the b2650?
I’m really torn between the Bx23/2680 or the B2301. 6 acres. 2-2.5 mowing rest wooded. If the cost to the b2301 is to too much more I may go that way. I think the Bx will be fine for all I need to do. But once in the woods the extra clearance of the B will be nice and not having to worry about the hst fan on the Bx. Do you agree with my assessment?
Agree, yes.
Really surprised how close in size the B-50 series and L-01 series are. Could’ve sworn I saw a new LX series and the sizes didn’t appear that close in person. Any input Neil would be great. @Messick’s
The SU with the large tires is very close. The lx has a higher hood than the old B as well. The L will out work it.
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For sure, weight=work, but if I don’t need the weight I want something that looks tractorish and not an overgrown lawnmower lol.
I like to find a toy sized tractor like a bx1880
I think a bx would do fine for me. But how much price difference to the b 2601? I only need it to move occasional gravel, grade 600 feet of driveways. No finish mower.
lots more models here. BX2680 to B2301 would be $2500 or so.
Hey Neal good solid video thanks! I have a question I own a b2620 with loader and a 60 inch belly mower was wanting to trade it in on a kubota b2650 cab tractor my tractor is under 250 hours and maintained well what can I expect for a trade in please? Thank you
pricing on trades can vary on a number of factors. If your local I'd have you work with one of our sales guys.
The camera is wiggling?
Really really wish you guys were in WI, not sure what dealer to go with here. None seem to have the service you guys have.
Shawn Dickmann I would be broke if they were here 😂
@m9 ovich SE WI
L2501 with a grappler and a bucket. That's the one for me!
Have you ever heard of a Koboata dealer over feeling the rear end of the tractor?
I believe you mean over filling (I hope), as in ballasting. I suppose you could.
Does anyone know what Kubota model is equivalent to the John Deere 790?
I'd assume a a B-Series would be your closest Kubota model, its a compact utility tractor, and 30HP. A standard L-01 would probably be a closer match going over the Kubota website to check HP ratings.
Hi, I need some spare parts for the Kubota B 7200. You could find them
messicks.com/ku/84592
Neal, I live in Idaho and I would really like to have a cab for my mx5800 just to keep out the cold. Is there such a thing? If so, how much is it going to set me back financially and can I get a used or universal one that would work? Thank you, and I love your videos!
Sorry, I believe your name is spelled Neil.
Kubota is releasing a new MX6000 with a cab. I'm buying one asap, and it sounds like you may want to think about it as well
If the MX just didn't have the fuel tank under the hood and add an independent PTO, a tilt wheel and a better seat. I like the 12.5 tires on the front of the MX. Why would the MX have a weaker front axle tied with a stout rear end especially considering the tire size the MX has on the front?? Kubota needs to revisit the MX series and update it with those things i mentioned along with putting an axle on the front to match the rear.
Owning an MX, I think I understand the logic in the design decisions. I'm not sure I'd say "light front axle" - it seems heavy enough unless maybe you're logging with it or you're running the loader maxed out all the time. It feels like more of a case of "we need a heavier rear end to handle the class 2 three point". So to me it seems like "it's not light in the front, it's heavy in the rear". If you buy a 4800, go ahead order the adjustable link arms - you're going to want them. Standard on the other models. Ooops - update. The 4800 is no longer available but may still be out on the lot. Now you're getting the adjustable arms whether you want them or not. :-)
I don't mind the absence of tilt steering. The seat is plenty good enough, but it would be nice if it had slightly more travel to the front. Not a big deal - if it bothers me enough I'll just drill some angle iron and make a slightly offset mount for the seat. It hasn't bothered me enough to reach for the drill press yet.
I hear you on the PTO. I'm guessing it's a matter of hitting a price point. Constant-speed PTO adds cost, and they're aiming for a specific price. And I'm definitely getting a fuel tote with an electric pump before springtime. Is it just me, or are five gallon cans of diesel heavier than they used to be? Maybe the sulfur used to make it lighter :-)
Would I do it again? Yes. The MX4800 runs a 6 foot heavy duty brush cutter through 2-1/2" sourwood and slightly larger pines - the RPMs don't drop. Speed is limited by how hard I want to get bounced around. It will bog down in Johnson Grass, but I've had friends in here with other machines and they had the same issue. I've run it fairly hard through Johnson grass right around the speed where it would start to lose RPMs a couple times a minute or so (almost full speed in low range - maybe 3 mph?) and it didn't overheat in 96 degree weather. Not bad.
You always have to be mindful that changes add cost. If you really implemented this stuff, you'll quickly bump into an M6060.
@@MessicksEquip I wouldn't mind paying for it if I get what I want. I like the size of the MX and the tires, but it is just the fact that it is lacking in some areas. I want some of the features from a Grand L in an MX. It always seems like you can never get exactly what you want.
@@311hitwall Except the admittedly cool front tires, sounds like the L6060 has everything you want.
@@MessicksEquip Yeah but I am not paying 50K for the Grand L and you still don't get everything standard. No quick coupler for the loader or any rear remotes and of course no cool front tires. Kubota has gotten to be like Porsche with the options that people usually buy.
my dream is b2601
I’m actually looking at buying 6000 Acres in WV and am wondering about what size tractor would be attenuate probably looking at a 1/4 mile driveway and at most 20 acres of grass (i like the woods)
And would like to run a pto drive snow blower during the winter
I also currently work with a lot of heavy things Ex: wood steel & picking up things that really shouldn’t be picked up
6000! I'd have a long list of machinery.
That roof behind the tractors is an absolute mess.
Hi. Do you have the ST series in the US? ST401 is the 40hp version.
No
What is the actual width of the MX tractor with the industrial tires? I know it says 69.7 on the site but that doesn't always ring true when you actually measure.
all depends on the tire selection
@@MessicksEquip The only industrial tire shown is the 17.5L-24 R4. I think the MX series sits lower and wider than most compacts I have seen - that is why I was curious if the numbers back up the visuals.
How come u never demo a New Holland compact tractor 25S TLB, R4? They don’t even sell that model where I live
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Wow, you need aftertreatment over only 26hp in America?
In Australia I'm pretty sure we don't need DEF/aftertreatment until 76hp.
This garbage gets worse every year and this is the only reason why we're seeing CVTs starting to creep into this field, emissions. Something I'm sure most of us are fairly ambiguous about (who cares).
you have the same stuff we do.
Were the bloopers replaced with the black screen??? Wtf is up with the end?
This video is a re-run
It's not, but I did shoot a different topic in this same lineup before
I want a m7 171 to mow my half acre yard😂😂😂
I did something like that one time. It did not end well.
@@MessicksEquip 😂😂😂
Once we mowed our yard with a Same Corsaro 75 tractor and a 6 foot slasher cutting the grass. Our ride on lawn mower was broken. It took around 2 years for the lawn to recover from the experience.
can you get a cab on a mx series?
Ferenc Brown, yes, on the new MX 5400 and MX 6000, they are both available with cabs.
@@clintbennetsen6392 thank you that will hopefully lower the cost! :)
Great video!!!!!
Fix the roof. It looks like crap and detracts away from your business and the videos.