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The 11th way a tractor can get severely damaged is to allow ANYONE to operate your tractor.
YES, so true. No words were ever spoken so truthfully. I let people test out their Digging skills on my Dynahoe-190.( I OWN it) I always first just set it up to backhoe. Then I watch like a Hawk
Stop them when they start doing it incorrectly
Then talk to them and show them through.
Sharing isn’t caring with heavy equipment 😅😅
When lending equipment consider that it will be brought back “beaten like a rented mule”.
Excellent presentation. With the expanding population of folks getting into the compact tractor market I'm surprised dealers aren't offering "Tractor School." A couple of hours of information like this including basic operation would be time and money well spent.
@Jordon Carlson that $200 would be a drop in the bucket compared to the billed service hours for a Navas equipment operator damages to their tractor
YES excellent idea.
When I got my portable HONDA-2000 Generator. The shop/store I got it from had a 2 hour course teacher from the power company Teach proper hook up to homes . A big NO, NO was preventing a backfeed out to power lines as power is restored by crew to NOT shock/ kill the linemen. The power company offers this course free of charge.
I consider myself an inexperienced tractor owner/operator who was blessed with good common sense and the ability to recognize my limitations.Since buying my 2017 L4701 Kubota 3 yrs ago, I have invested the time to both learn good safe operating habits as well as familiarizing myself mechanically. I refuse to own any machine that I can’t perform basic maintenance work on whether a tractor or a Harley, if I can’t change oil and filters/ hydraulics etc, I don’t want it! Your videos have helped me a whole lot , thanks!
Here's how you bend the quick coupler on a loader the very first time you use it: Take the bucket off, have the arms reaching out there empty, mow your lawn with this large, new, unfamiliar, expensive machine, and cram the front end into a tree. Ask me how I know!
Damn!
How do you know?
Lol
If it moves I can break it. At 61 years old I have a lot of experience.
Dad is that you?
Joking, but im guilty of breaking everything i operate randomly. Had a seat unbolt on me. Destroyed a PTO shaft, blew a trans. You name it, I've probably broken or seen it done.
Your comment about the machine being able to lift more than the actual tractor can handle brought back a memory of trying to unload my 800lb engraver off the side of a trailer and not realizing all the weight was on the left front tire that was soft, when I tried to climb into the tractor it started to roll over towards me! I pushed backwards and it righted itself, scared the crap out of me and taught me a lesson at the same time!
Having just bought a tractor I definitely appreciate these lists. I’ve watched your FEL video like ten times since I got it, just to keep it fresh in my mind!
Talking about PTO shafts being too long, “Tractor Time with Tim” just did an episode talking about jamming his PTO into the tractor! It was a several thousand dollar repair.
did that. really painful
Thanks Neil! Some really helpful advice again - especially for us new tractor owners! Cheers and all the best!
Excellent advice and diplomatically communicated! I definitely need to hear it!👍👍
Great video! New to the compact tractor family! Thought it would be a breeze to operate...... I have lots to learn!
Neal you do a great job with the videos! Sharing information & providing tips!! As well other Kubota owners! Been watching lots of U tube!! Thank you all!!
Thanks for another great tips and advice video, Neil! After three years as a tractor owner (Kubota L3901), I have managed to avoid these top 10 ways to break mine. I work my tractor hard but try to be careful not to exceed it’s limits. Thanks for sharing your know-how!
Clint Eastwood: "A man's got to know his limitations." That also applies to your tractor.
I just delivered something from Messicks to a shop in Michigan!
Just picked up a 2020 BX2680, trading in my 10 year old BX1860. They asked me if I needed to come in and check it out. I said "nope, I've been watching Messicks videos all day". :) The wanted to extend a thank you for all your time and effort for them. So do I!
Just sold my 2350 for 11k trade in is probably much lower?
@@Mcseverythingoutdoors Not really.. I got what I wanted from my trade.
Neil you are excellent as an owner/ Salesman for your Dealership. The Fact that you own what you sell. I have had two different guys come out from Tire shops for rear big backhoe tires. One guy loved my backhoe and wanted it for his yard. The other kid, just a punk could have cared less about damaging my LUG bolts, then had the balls as he stripped out the corners of LUG to say I need NEW ones. He went around Lugs like a Nascar pit crew. Just a field guy who could care less about someone else personally owned piece of Equipment. I told the manager at the store to NEVER ever send that Jerk to me again
That last tip is the best, which is why I always stop here any time I need some advice on something new. Great job 👍🏻
The last tip alone is worth the price of admission. Thanks for a terrific video!
A must video to watch. As a new tractor owner, I've got to say most of what's covered here I would have to learned the hard way.
Great tips !
Great video!
In addition to bending up your PTO shaft if it's the wrong length, it is also possible to do severe damage to the tractor's PTO and transmission housing itself. Especially if the PTO shaft is too long or, if the implement is a pull type brush hog, you do not adjust the tractor's draw bar length properly. If you want an example of how bad it can get, see a recent CZcams post by Tractor Time With Tim in which he details the damage he did to his John Deere 2038R's PTO. The problem was caused by not properly setting the length of its draw bar. And no, this was not a "Deere" problem. The damage he did could have happened to any color tractor.
Neil sitting on a Cub Cadet! I thought I had seen every thing until now! 😃
And one of the good ones!! Looks almost like an 1811. Missing the side panels though 😉.
@@roveradventures my first thought after being shocked Neil was sitting on one is that I hope someone buys it and restores it! 😁
Admittedly it looks like the engine was swapped for a Briggs. If its a 1811 it'll have a kohler magnum.
We actually did a trip about 100 miles and picked up a complete all original one owner unit with 600 hours. Sellers father had a shaft break on the hydrostatic and said sell it after finally not being able find a replacement.
We happened to have a parts one we got on trade a while back. So after getting it we swapped the hydros and its been solid since!
While the 1811s are MTD cubs they were actually made and designed by International harvester. They were held over during the buyout and made so they are pretty strong units!!
@@roveradventures I have a 2284 SGT that I restored. It is built like a tank for its size. I love it so much, it has 701 hours.
Id love to get my hands on one of the bigger units with the kawasaki or kubota engines!
I gotta g1800 though, and it does fantastic.
My area is mostly booked with 400-420-430 series deeres. One person even had a honda tractor. Legit 100% honda. Had 4 wheel steering, 4 wheel drive, and front, center and rear pto.
Seems like the 70s-90s was the prime for garden tractors!
Great Vlog!
Bending the PTO shaft isn't as bad as damaging the tractor PTO.
Good advice, thanks for the video!
Great comment regarding sticks! I learned the hard way to be careful going over areas where trees had been cleared. Broke a bead on a tire at the worst possible time! 😠
All great points!
Good video and good subject 👍🏻
Great presentation, but I love the outtakes! Always a good laugh 😅
Your videos are awesome, subscribed and I really appreciate your knowledge! Just bought an L47 and loving it on 80 acres here in CO.
Great tractor. You'll love it
Here's the list:
1. Tires/wheels/valve stems
2. Sticks- pokes grill/lights/oil filters
3. Lights - get knocked off
4. Seats - pokes/sun damage/rips
5. Loader Quick coupler - bent/ damaged
6. Loader hyd cylinder- bent/damaged
7. Top link - bent(easy to do)
8. Broken front axle @ drop box -
overloaded front loader
9. PTO shaft - needs to be the proper
size (bent shaft)
10. Broken tractor - operator that knows
how to use it rather than an operator
that just owns one and tears it up
I think a good video would be showing people the proper way to cut a pto shaft. It seems like even though there are some videos on it, people seem all over the place on it.
Great video and definitely on point. Especially just because you can drive it doesn't mean you can operate it proficiently.
Great video. Niels favorite catch phrase is “over top” lol!
...very good points. Thanks. - N Idaho -
Glad you mentioned sticks. When I was a teenager I was out riding my quad with my cousin. His dad had a king quad 800 or something. My cousin decided to run through an old brush pile that loggers had not burned yet. Somehow he put a two inch birch stick right through the center of the tire. Not the sidewall, the center of the tire...
A couple of years ago a guy and his girlfriend we're out playing in a side by side north of here. They hit a 2in branch and it went through the front of the machine and impaled her through the gut.
@@NordboDK way to one up his 2" stick story. Lol
@@NordboDK no way? That is hurt that I hurt thinking about... fawk
@@roflstomps324 www.adn.com/alaska-news/2017/06/29/north-pole-woman-dies-when-branch-punches-through-floor-of-off-road-vehicle-troopers-say/
Good points!
Seems so obvious, but have to appreciate the reminders and some of the info to think about. Can see myself doing something, doesn't seem quite right, wonder what's wrong, and immediately remember what Neil or someone else said, stopping in time to prevent damage. Thanks
Thank you, first question I had for my dealer after I bought a MX5200HST, what is the most common breakages your see on new tractors. My dealer really didn’t have an answer. Now I know!
It sounds like you've been following me around!
Always be mindful of hydraulic hoses!! I went to scoop stone out of the back of a dump truck at work and caught the hydraulic lines of the lift cylinders on the tailgate... on both sides. Busted the 90° elbow on a short section of hydraulic hose connecting the cylinders to the solid line. Hydraulic oil was pissing all over the place. Had to leave the tractor out overnight while we got new hydraulic hoses from NAPA made up. My only saving grace is that I didn’t destroy the threaded nipples coming out of the cylinders. We only had to replace two, foot long hydraulic hoses as opposed to 2 lift cylinders. My boss was not happy.
Just got L47 with Grapple. Freakin love this machine
If nothing ever broke, life would not be worth living....
Very nice.
I’m very hard on my bx2670. I don’t abuse it but I work the loader hard. I know it’s not advised, but I added shims to the relief valve to boost hydraulic pressure.
Great Video! You wouldn't happen to have any used CAT1 3-point hitches for sale, would you? Asking for myself!
Always connect my pto when shaft length would be shortest/level. If I have to extend it, then I’m good to go and won’t break stuff
Ask Tim with Tractor Time with Tim youtube. He destroyed the casting on the back of his JD with a batwing PTO loading it up.
Me personally, im known for PTO shaft destruction. Shear Bolts dont like to do their job.
Imo , the worst thing for pto was the cv joints on mowers and round balers , that 20 lb weight at 500 rpm , any play at all then it was out of balance . After snapping my stub three times I converted every thing to shafts salvaged off old jd combines
I appreciate your last comment about men that run heavy equipment for a living which I do.. and the whole thing is speed is not the answer like I see a lot of on these tractor videos it's making every move count where the production comes in
Very interesting
You know i got a 60 year old john deere 2030 thats been slightly abused and it still has its factory top link in perfect shape besides for some rust.
My 65 yr old JD 60’s top link and linkage was all bent to hell. I replaced it with a more modern design that’s much stronger. Still have to wonder how it got so jacked up in its’ life before me.
@@covid-19ispsychologicalwar10 Nice channel name. Sounds like meth psychosis.
The tires and wheels that are one the first tractor, I wish I had those on my L3901
Batterson Property Management 3
Should remind folks to engage and disengage the mower pto near idle
speed instead of full rpm. It makes life easier on the clutch, pto
drive parts and mower gearbox.
Do you know how many and stats about the ford 1120
Most hydro tractors are susceptible to damage underneath running thru the woods and going over stumps etc, the filter, pump and fan sit low and and lack protection. Ask me how I know ha ha.
Yep. Kubota does nothing to protect the hydro filters. I'm going to add some plating under mine.
They need a skid plate, like an off-road crawler, at least as optional protection for the underside.
Geez. Now you make me not want to use my tractor anymore seeing as it's so vulnerable!
So you say to add ballast to the rear to reduce the pressure on the front axle and to distribute the weight. So in my thought process even with ballast added to the rear the front wheels still take the bulk of the load when using the FEL as they are the pivot point. Adding rear ballast may actually increase the load on the front wheels when using the FEL to its fullest capacity vs not having extra rear ballast. Not sure if you have access to 4 individual scales to test the theory. I know you have done the test with the load cells. I know rear ballast increases safety and stability in most cases so I'm a firm believer in properly ballasted tractors. Just questioning whether or not it actually reduces the load on the front axle. Thanks for the great videos always watch them!
Crashz28 yes, rear ballast does reduce the load on the front axle under almost all conditions. It’s a matter of physics. The load behind the rear wheels literally relieves weight (downward force) on the front. Just consider that if you keep adding load behind the rear wheels, it will eventually lift the front wheels (no downward force). Hence, whatever load you have on the back will proportionally remove the weight off the front axle.
@@profdave2861 Wheel weights won't do that. A backhoe or weights on the drawbar will
Erik Neland yes, exactly. That’s why I specifically referred to “the load BEHIND the rear wheels...”. Wheel weights will help keep the back end of the tractor on the ground with a heavy load on the front, and it can help with rear wheel traction, but it won’t relieve the load on the front axle since wheel weights do not create an offsetting force behind the fulcrum (rear wheels).
NEIL : Frm Judy &JIMM ; MESQUITE, TX . Thanx for The pearls of um aww, ok, reality , truth hurts ALWAYS !
I am always hunting KB 's for empowering OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP. in need of reliable steam.
" Highly Experienced ", SCREWED ' ENOUGH STUFF UP , TO KNOW WHAT NOT TO DO THIS TIME
THANX for a good show ; JIMM
Tractor time with Tim actually drove his pto shaft through the rear of his lift ram housing due to the shaft being too long for the application (in the raised position...) He said it was an expensive mistake, and I don't doubt him.....
Thanks for these videos, you guys are life savers. Riddle me this, do they make a duelie kit for a kioti 2410 size tractor? I don't want to have to engineer and machine something that Can be bought prefabricated.
I'm not aware of anyone that makes duals for small tractors like this. I know its been done. I'd be very, very careful. Keep your inside tire PSI higher than the outside for sure.
@@MessicksEquip thanks for your rapid response. Much appreciated, time to clean off the the drafting table and sharpen my pencils.
@@forcesightknight there is a video on CZcams of a John Deere 1025r 2ith duals. I believe he bought the kit from Miller Tire
Seen a friends neighbor a few weeks back bought a brand new l3301w/ fel and no rear attachments or filled tires. Told him hey fyi you need to add weight to the back of the tractor while he was out moving dirt around with his new toy. Guess he thought i didnt know what i was talking about .... a week later he put her on her side and cost him a lot of $!
You mention the sticks, clearing some brush I had a stick pop my oil fill cap off. Happened to notice a little oil splash on the side. Never found the cap.
Because the tractor is ballasted enough to lit feed totes we have, the weight over the front axle has caused damage. And you can't be more right than talking about the fact that just because you own a piece of equipment it makes you an expert!! I'm constantly hearing gears grinding, the loaded slamming totes down, and watching the whole tractor bounce around when a "particular operator" is on the machine.
“Be sane about what you lift with your tractor!” I thought the reason to own a four wheel drive tractor was so you could keep going when the back tires came off the ground! Bwhahaha! Kidding aside great video! 👍👍👍
No, the 4 wheel drive is so you can get farther from help before you get stuck. The better the four wheel drive, the longer walk and more hours to retrieve it.
Neil, I have a new Kubota Bx 1880. My problem is the seat.That is the most uncomfortable seat I have sat on. I called my dealer and asked if I could buy another seat.I was told sorry,.They could not find a better seat to bolt up.The seat that came on the tractor is terrible. I also have a BX25D. It has a great seat,armrests and padding in the seat.Can you help with my problem
Dont do with tractor if it doesnt have guarding. I need to build a guard for gramps boom pole. Towing a car at demo derby chain didnt break. Where i hooked to did. Car was really mangled. I pulled in 4th and didnt want to go so i shifted to 3rd then it started moving and bang i heard chain flying and put hand behind head. I felt the chain with hand 6 inches or less from head. I do a high hook chain for lift and a low hook chain for pull together about 60% up between top link and pull arms with about 8 links then my j hook. The pull chain took most of the recoil out. People when helping hook up like to take my pull chain off no it needs to be there so i dont stand her up. I pulled a f250 with 40ft gooseneck with 2 cars in slop without flinching. (2wd gear drive ag tires JD 2cylinder) ive pulled cars that that wanted to wait for the skytrac because that bad. Nah. I got this. Know your limits dont go above what youre comfortable doing
Yep grill crunched by stick coming through the grill and bent tie rods. Sure wish Kubota’s steering tie rods were designed to be behind the axle.
Or like TTWT and ramming the PTO shaft into the transmission destroying the transmission.
Can I replace a transmission that had 2 speed sensors with one that has one for my 2007 ford f150 pick up had a 4rw70automatic trans. 2 wheel drive 4,2 mother.if so what do I need to do to make it work L Mcdaniel
Valve stems on the inside of Wheels do not protect them from damage. thrown objects from brush Hogs can still wipe out a valve stem on the inside
Had a reciprocating saw on my mower seat. Picked it up and the blade rotated and cut the seat in the corner. Now whenever I seat and use the mower the cut gets bigger and bigger. Lesson learned, I put it on the metal engine cover, which incidentally I was avoiding doing because I didn't want to scratch the paint.....
You need to add a basket of some sort to protect everything else.
@@arthurr8670 I am actually working on that. I am going to make a slip on basket that uses the bagger frame. Hope to have it big enough for maybe my 16" chainsaw. My learning to weld project.
I always got into Styx with my tractor just as I liked a momentary lapse of reason.
You ran into the band?
@@pryme2013 nah, I like to play word games
@@tomkeating65 get'em renegade.
Sticks seem to have a deep hatred of belly mowers.
I would be careful about adding too much ballast on the rear of a tractor to compensate for an overloaded front loader. There have been tractors that have actually broken in half around the bell housing due to this. I would check the tractor manuals very carefully before adding the ballast to verify the tractor can handle those weights.
He said putting weight on the rear tires will help to reduce the load on the front tires, but just the opposite is true. When you load up the rear, then you are going to load up the front more than before. When the back tires come up then, you know to reduce the load.
Watch Outdoors With The Morgans on You Tube. The last few weeks Mike has been operating a rented brand new KX 080 excavator. From digging shale borrow pits to dredging a pond he always shows care and respect for power equipment. He has experience but is not a current professional operator. A few videos back he discussed rough careless operators. Thanks - always a enlightening video Neil Take care
Whats the story with that L35?
Seat damage is something our tractor really sufferers from, but not the bottom part, but the backrest, the fabric went off of it, the headrest part is missing, which I don't mind, and the fome on the top went away to reveal the metal frame, but the tractor is from 92 with my dad being the second owner having bought it 96,and he doesn't take too much cear of our machine's.
Sweet video. Now I know how to go about killing my tractor so I can buy a sub compact tractor!! Thank you 😊
I've done 2. 5,6 and 9
Don't forget if you have to cut your pto shaft down to cut both ends not just one.
Seats can also be destroyed just by the UV light so maybe a cover is good if its kept outside.
How i figure it, by the time the light destroys the seat, the foam inside is also destroyed from use. It's just time for a new seat.
You missed cab doors an a few other things ive seen
I see a lot of front wheel bearings go out on those kubota tractors
Oh no 🤭 what are the internet trolls gonna do they can’t complain about the shingles😂
What shingles?
What was that a small lift or a trailer the bush hog was sitting on? Was this somethings to make it easy to move around? Be nice to be able to move the thing to the tractor instead of having to back up perfectly to line it up wouldn’t it?
The very end from 9:55 is the complete truth. I had a neighbor that owned a 30hp compact tractor completely destroy it in 600hrs. Used his finish mower as a brush hog and would lower it on rocks and logs all the time cutting pastures and such. Anyone can go buy one, but only a select few know how to truly operate one.
That sounds more like a penny wise, dollar foolish person. He didn't want to buy the proper tools, so he used tools that got destroyed instead.
If they still made things out of steel you’d never have a stick tap your headlights out...
Fred Wills like the machine was made of steel...lenses were thick glass...not this phoney plastic shit we have now days you plug. You wouldn’t lose the headlights out of a 2-135 white because of a stick
letsdig18 is a equipment operator
Heh, I did #2 the other day with a 2" stick. Took out one of the headlights.
Put a branch right thru the radiator on mine last fall. Heavy duty expanded metal grill guard on it now.
I use mine like a Tank... but old tractors are tuff
What tractor do you run?
Our local town bought a small John Deere with a loader and within ten hours of operation they over filled the bucket with brush and raised the bucket when it reached the top of the loader lift it tossed a large chunk of wood out of the bucket and on to the hood.
Most small loaders have no brush guards on top of bucket. Most small tractors come without bucket levelers. Most beginners learn the hard way. Having a lifetime of running equipment it was a very short time before I made myself a brush guard from an old pice of mobile home frame. Easy , quick ,works great, looks good. Cut a few holes and slits for good visibility, 2 weld on hooks for chains 2 d rings for straps, and a 2” receiver so I can move empty trailers.
Wish Ford would get back into tractors
Cardinal for Life I wish Obama could have ran for a third term
Owen M we can’t afford that
@@cardinalforlife1143 exactly. Same with slow Joe
Owen M yeah, let’s have socialism then none of us could afford a new Kubota....
JackOSUrulz lol, so true
Interesting...you did just touch a topic that lately I’ve become more concerned about, and that is the front wheel bearings. I’ve done 2 botas and one LS. And for the life of me why are they using ball bearings in these?!! I know you talk about having proper ballast when lifting but I’m beginning to wonder if that’s the problem?! More ballast more lift. More weight on front bearings. And no it’s not because the axle oil has not been changed either. One has been over changed just because I knew about the first two!!...Still failed🤬
We would more often see problems with the seals than any bearings. When we have to do it, its not a bad repair.
Messick's Equipment I would see seal issues too...inboard or outboard bearing failed, misaligning the seal causing the oil leak. That’s why the customer brought it to me...oil leaking. Why ball bearings?? Why not roller?? This just baffles me. Not bad repair?! Yeah housing tore up, axle damaged. Luckily I can weld and machine.
That's probably the one and only thing I do not like about Kubota there grill guard they should come standard with a screen mounted on them rather than everyone having to make their own
Just the tips can be so dangerous
Its funny..kubota knows most of their problems..ie poor lighting..grill guards etc..but they dont solve the issues.. a grill guard is a perfect simple solution kubota could factor in when building
Mowing unknown or once a year acreage rough on tires last years dead scrub tree stalks can ruin a tire and your day/pocketbook!!!!
Heads Mess Never heard the term of stuffing the blades before.
Heads Mess I knew what you meant but I’m going to start using that now.
so give thought to operator vs runner I have a few tho hours tractor, way less then the bigger iron i run, so there is a line you have never touched on, that is cost per hour to run vers cost per hr of expected life. It is more profitable to run a machine with in its peramiters, but if you baby it tooo much your not making money either.
I honestly don't understand how an adult can do some of these things to their own equipment, as most of these are the result of severe misuse of the equipment. Too many Bubba's try to use a compact tractor like a bull dozer.
#1 way tractors broken:
Operator error/ inexperienced operator.
One way to break a tractor or implement is to borrow it to an old friend who farms. My dad had a friend from the Army who also farmed. I think after the 2nd or 3rd time he broke something and didn’t pay to fix it my dad finally said no more. He always blamed it on his hired hand.
Boyd W either way..himself or hired hand he should have paid for it
I don’t think he ever did.
Sticks can destroy radiators. Don’t ask my dad how I know.