The Riverside Park Honor Slaying (Kill Your Darlings)

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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2023
  • Exploring the thoughts of Lucien Carr's son, Caleb (author of the Alienist), on both the film "Kill Your Darlings" and the true events surrounding it.
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Komentáře • 11

  • @cwbrooks5329
    @cwbrooks5329 Před měsícem +3

    Man, do I agree 100%. It's such a perfect cast, such a beautifully crafted movie and such a missed opportunity. The story with Carr at the center -- as you suggested -- would have been so much more compelling.

  • @flyisfly
    @flyisfly Před 8 měsíci +12

    i watched kyd in 2020 and rewatched it early this year, leading into nights of researching everything about the murder and the beat generation. to my knowledge, the movie is based off of allen ginsbergs fictionalization of the story called bloodsong, which i only realized when i read bloodsong. the romanticization makese complete sense now that you talked about his nambla associations, the quotes r so disturbing.

  • @taki1973
    @taki1973 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Appreciate this discussion about the story..the movie was so good but left me so confused about the events. the way Kammerer inserted himself into Lucien's life was something the movie should have focused on if the director wanted to give an honest portrayal of the events. And the comments about p3d0ph111a from Ginsberg... Yikes. Should've picked a better POV than Ginsberg

  • @tinarhinehart6436
    @tinarhinehart6436 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Thank you so much for this video. I loved the movie Kill Your Darlings but it glosses over the child abuse.

  • @bellella_6926
    @bellella_6926 Před 5 měsíci +8

    The more I learn about Ginsberg the less I like him

  • @hrussell4163
    @hrussell4163 Před rokem +1

    Very cool!

  • @kaylaclarkLove
    @kaylaclarkLove Před rokem +4

    This story is interesting, what's your question about it. And do you think Kammerer was Obsessed with Carr

    • @flyisfly
      @flyisfly Před 8 měsíci +6

      kammerer stalked carr since he was a 13 year old boy, ofc thats obsession.

    • @kaylaclarkLove
      @kaylaclarkLove Před měsícem

      ​@@flyisfly that we know of, many people think Lucien was lying

    • @groovywitch1955
      @groovywitch1955 Před měsícem +2

      @@kaylaclarkLoveA lot of people said that kammerer was obsessed with him.
      Breaking into somebody’s room and watching them sleep isn’t exactly healthy behaviour. There are few of those who dispute Carr’s claims but if 50 people agree on the same version of events versus a group of 10 people on something else we’re inclined to believe the former if that makes sense. Plus it really did seem like a self defence case given how he killed him,but that’s just my two cents.