Myr, Tyrosh and Lys. The Smart, the Greedy and the Lovely

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  • čas přidán 16. 11. 2017
  • Three quarrelsome daughters of Valyria. Three different yet somehow very similar Free cities with strong ties to Westeros.
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  • @7deEspadas
    @7deEspadas Před 6 lety +31

    Lys. Pompeii in the Caribbean

  • @dansmachine9360
    @dansmachine9360 Před 6 lety +27

    AHHH, Tyrosh is the city of Tyre!!

    • @j_etherdrake_t8250
      @j_etherdrake_t8250 Před 6 lety +10

      DansMachine if Tyrosh is Tyre, I think is is fair to think that Myr is Alexandria, because of the libraries it used to have and lys would be Cyprus because of there is where greek mithology says aphrodidite was born

    • @dansmachine9360
      @dansmachine9360 Před 6 lety +1

      groovy

  • @davidmelgar1197
    @davidmelgar1197 Před 6 lety +36

    I wonder if the reason neither Dorne ( or later the Seven Kingdoms), Tyrosh, or Lys haven't ever tried permanently annexing all or part of the Stepstones is because it'd spark eternal conflict/upset the balance of power, and so it's left as a buffer zone

    • @filipmihailovic6329
      @filipmihailovic6329 Před 6 lety +3

      David Melgar Well, Mad king tried to invade the Stepstones but failed

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 5 lety +12

      It is a very difficult place to inhabit, and few in Westeros can navigate them successfully. The ironborn might have a go at it, but few in Westeros would give up vast lands and fertile soil for what amounts to a bunch of rocks.

  • @Brandonhayhew
    @Brandonhayhew Před 5 lety +20

    Fire and Blood, gave us a new story more of the Lyseni Spring.

  • @thehighguarduk4820
    @thehighguarduk4820 Před 6 lety +8

    Fantastic video! So much their I had never heard before, very interesting and informative. Great work!

    • @ScrivaTV
      @ScrivaTV  Před 6 lety

      Thanks!

    • @tomaszlosinski875
      @tomaszlosinski875 Před 6 lety

      You don't need to say "their" the clause makes sense without it and if you do keep it in your sentence it should be 'there' not 'their' but even that's not the best option. A better one would be to say 'here'

    • @shaneybot3031
      @shaneybot3031 Před 3 lety

      @@tomaszlosinski875 nazi

  • @leandrolugo8344
    @leandrolugo8344 Před 6 lety +5

    Great video !!

    • @ScrivaTV
      @ScrivaTV  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks! Took a while to make it.

  • @Iamthegreatcow
    @Iamthegreatcow Před 6 lety +1

    Great video

  • @knightshade1297
    @knightshade1297 Před 6 lety +43

    I want go to Lys with unlimited gold dragons

  • @lysthaboss9742
    @lysthaboss9742 Před 5 lety +6

    I decided to search my name on youtube and here I am

  • @j_etherdrake_t8250
    @j_etherdrake_t8250 Před 6 lety +26

    I think is is fair to think that Myr is Alexandria, because of the libraries it used to have and lys would be Cyprus because of there is where greek mithology says aphrodidite was born. Also tyrosh has dyies made up of snails so that brings a connection to Tyre that also did that in acient times.
    What do you think about my research? Let my know

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 5 lety +3

      Like Tolkien, Martin hates allegory. There are inspirations of course but no city or country in ASOIAF is = a real world place

    • @danisrusski6297
      @danisrusski6297 Před 2 lety +2

      Pretty close I would say. Braavos is Venice for example, and was it Tyrosh who had strong crossbowmen like Genoa?

    • @Captain_Insano_nomercy
      @Captain_Insano_nomercy Před rokem

      @@danisrusski6297 no, Myr had the crossbowmen. And they are incredibly belligerent just like Genoa

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Před 6 lety +15

    Love Lys. I'm still wondering why Young Couldn't be passed off as Lyseni

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 5 lety +7

      His hair was dyed blue and Jon Connington passed him off as his son. His real features are too Targaryen to ignore. Tyrion also noted that his mannerisms are very akin to Targaryens.
      If he is to claim the iron throne he can't well be a Lyseni.

    • @shadiganymedeeros3588
      @shadiganymedeeros3588 Před 5 lety +7

      Lyseni culture is different from westerosi even though there are people who have classical valyrian features. And there could have also been facial or other physical features that make Young appear as a Targareyan...and the people of Lys are big on kidnapping, slavery and royal kidnapping.

    • @adamantiiispencespence4012
      @adamantiiispencespence4012 Před rokem

      I think image issues. Daemond II lost everything because he was humiliated by being dumped off his horse into a mud puddle. Why insinuate the possibility that young Aegon is just a sex slave of Valyrian descent who was bought to figurehead a coup/rebellion?

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 Před rokem

      @Adamant I I I spence spence for starters he wouldn't have to dye his hair there since nobles and baseborn Lyseni possess Valyrian features. That's less work for Illyrio and Varys in terms of "hiding" him since he'd be hiding in plain sight. Why Viserys and Daenerys didn't stay there is beyond me. It's established that Jon Arryn had no intention of hurting either of them so long as they didn't return. Monitoring their movements is another story.

  • @miguelmontenegro3520
    @miguelmontenegro3520 Před 6 lety +8

    Dont Tyrosh have the same history of Venice and the dyes? Or am I mixing real and fictional life? Pls help me

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 5 lety

      You are mixing real and fictional life. Please go outside.

    • @lucasbramante4218
      @lucasbramante4218 Před 2 lety

      Almost. Dyes are a part of it, however Bravos is more Venice-ish while tyrosh is Tyre-ish, George mixed up the colours haha, although I do agree with pure purple for Bravos.

  • @chipchipperson5731
    @chipchipperson5731 Před 5 lety +2

    I think it is far more likely the Children of the Forest coined the term, "All Men Must Die."

  • @matthewcopley7679
    @matthewcopley7679 Před rokem

    Did you ever do any research on culture of Game of Thrones? I am somewhat new to everything. I mainly became interested because of a Crusader Kings 3 mod for Westeros, and they have been talking of updates for territories and Houses of Esos and Beyond.
    If i am a lord, and someone comes to my home, (lets say there is bad blood between there family and me.) If i set a table, place bread and salt upon the table but do not offer it to them, but offer them Wine.... have i given guest rights, have i violated the custom, can i deal with the rival while they are in my grasp. Can my rival save themselves? By asking for guest rights, then taking bread and salt, (why bread and salt anyway, bread already has salt, and a custom from our own world is breaking bread)do they then steal guest rights... if this is done to myself, i would hope to be paying enough attention (like would Aryas offer of wine when she was wearing Walder Freys face be a hint to the men all dieing and they were to dim to see the signs)

  • @matthewcopley7679
    @matthewcopley7679 Před rokem

    If all these cities had old valeria blood, why did the House of the Dragon, not scout for people with dragonblood in Esos, so they were not married to close family....?

    • @Progamerr_06
      @Progamerr_06 Před 10 měsíci +1

      There were plenty of targaryen and velorian basterds in westros it self so no need to search for somewhere else. Also, they probably would not trust a foreigner with a dragon.

    • @oppionatedindividual8256
      @oppionatedindividual8256 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Only 40 families possessed the dragon blood. The doom killed 39 of them. The Targs are the only true borns to survive with the necessary blood/genes. There only hope would be to round up every single Essosi Valyrian noble descended from a bastard founder, and hope they have the blood. It’s entirely infeasible.

  • @g-rexsaurus794
    @g-rexsaurus794 Před 6 lety +34

    Ehm, I think you forgot that "all men must die" is actually gender neutral in Valyrian, so that point was a bit cringey.
    Good video tho!

    • @ScrivaTV
      @ScrivaTV  Před 6 lety +5

      Well, Daenerys had a comment on that matter. I just played along.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 5 lety +10

      Actually the word for "prince" is gender neutral. The word for "men" is not.
      The word is "Vala" - like Valanquar (little brother) the prophecized killer of Cersei. Valar Morghulis and Valar Doeheris are both "all men must....".

    • @ce8640
      @ce8640 Před 5 lety +1

      ScrivaTV “ but we are not men” 😉

  • @nunobarros3629
    @nunobarros3629 Před 6 lety +15

    09:18 - Not a WOMAN, but a FEMINIST !!!!!

  • @shadiganymedeeros3588
    @shadiganymedeeros3588 Před 5 lety +3

    Lys the lovely would be considered still the most dangerous place in the world after the doom...reason why? The blood of old valyria still runs through there. Meaning that if the Dragons species were to comeback finding dragonriders would be easy there. I love Lys and wish it was real...would def choose to be Lyseni (or a Rhoynar/Valyrian Hybrid😘😉😋) Hope they make a RPG and allow people to choose who you are.

  • @SweetLilWren
    @SweetLilWren Před 6 lety +1

    1st comment, 2nd like