Cimarron Originals with Mike Harvey - 1897 Pump Action WWII Trench Gun

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2021
  • Mike Harvey, owner and President of Cimarron Firearms, guides us through part of his process in choosing new models that Cimarron develops with its factories. This episodes stars a WWII era 1897 Winchester Trench Gun with U.S. markings.

Komentáře • 152

  • @SCAxman
    @SCAxman Před 2 lety +41

    Make it slamfire! That'll move inventory more than a takedown.

    • @michaelw.urbansr.8617
      @michaelw.urbansr.8617 Před 2 lety +1

      The only time i think slam firing is effective is if your in a hallway or normal sized living room and have multiple threats at almost point blank range? Or r if your literally in a situation that your in trenches or buildings with like layouts that this gun would be effective. Or as a "Bear" camp gun even? In any case it would look awesome next to my VZ24 Mauser and 1911 my gramps left me!!! All ill need is a Garand! LOL Even if its one of those really nice .....sorry Italian replicas?! They sure are nice i have even held one in my hands although i have not fired one? I would want one in 30-06 or even maybe 308? I look for guns in calibers i dont own so my collection is more about the caliber then type of gun? I own quite a few AR15s all in multiple calibers ranging from 9mm threw 45ACP and up to 458Socom. Then i have lever and bolt guns in 30Cals like 6.5CM and 30-06 and , have wanted a 308 of some sort for some time? Its either going to be an all Aero Precision AR10 with a Faxon Barrel of a min length of 20' or more. With at least a 17' hand guard! Although the Atlas S-One is an awesome rail!!!! But the 308 dosnt have to be a semi-auto either so......? hehe Was really interested in the new strait pull by i think it was Savage or Remington? I forget off hand?

    • @SCAxman
      @SCAxman Před 2 lety +2

      @@michaelw.urbansr.8617 I don't recall the last time I fought trench warfare but it just looks super-cool at the range. Looking badass is a priority for me, even if it's kinda retarded. I just want the experience.
      You can scratch your Garand itch and your .308 itch with a Fulton Armory Enhanced .308 M1 Service Rifle.
      Savage and Beretta have new straight-pull .308s but I'd totally spend a little more for the FA Garand...The Italian version is the BM-59, IIRC, and it costs just as much and is pretty scarce these days, and it doesn't go *ping*.

    • @paulstephens4822
      @paulstephens4822 Před 2 lety +10

      @@SCAxman If it CAN'T Slamfire it ain't a 1897 trench. Whether you'll use it or not is the shooters discretion.

    • @evocati6523
      @evocati6523 Před 2 lety +6

      @@michaelw.urbansr.8617 we want slamfire because it's what the original had. As you can expect, people who buy replicas want them to be as authentic as possible, otherwise we would just buy a modern featured gun rather than a replica

    • @michaelw.urbansr.8617
      @michaelw.urbansr.8617 Před 2 lety

      @@evocati6523 oh i agree i just said its not really effective in most situations. In close quarters or in an actual trench yes hehe or if a bear comes into camp and you feel its going to take more then one to put that grizzly down !ehhe i like the feature my self so bring it i love it. But its fun to shoot even if u miss the target most of the time! LOL

  • @imperialbricks1977
    @imperialbricks1977 Před rokem +13

    Any update on when these will be in production?

  • @Gemstonehits
    @Gemstonehits Před 2 lety +16

    Wants
    >heat shield
    >Slam firing
    >Bayonet lug
    I love cimarron and there quality is like nothing else I've seen; And I haven't seen a good replica of the 1897 yet, but I look forward to seeing what cimarron comes up with!

  • @mikeseier4449
    @mikeseier4449 Před 2 lety +8

    WW1 was the major trench fighting.

    • @oregonoutback7779
      @oregonoutback7779 Před 2 lety +2

      You are correct, this is where it earned it's name. They continued to be used in the second world war, Korea & Vietnam, but were all referred to as "the trench gun".

    • @mikeseier4449
      @mikeseier4449 Před 2 lety +1

      @@oregonoutback7779 I wasn’t being critical. You are correct also.

  • @dickgoesinya9419
    @dickgoesinya9419 Před 2 lety +19

    Mike, I will be very interested in one of these as well. I would love to see one of the old Marlin pump actions with the exposed hammers made again. I would also like to say thanks to one of your employees, Bobby Pickens went out of his way to help me out on a problem with a Bad Boy 10MM. I believe it's guys like him that help make the company great! Thank you for offering so many fantastic guns, and hope you keep bringing out more.

  • @GentlemanJaeger
    @GentlemanJaeger Před 2 lety +18

    Very much looking forward to the debut of y’all’s 1897. I’ve passed on 2 other replicas of the same model, due to questionable reliability. I have no doubt your 1897’s will be of superior quality, and functionality!

  • @weshohler7601
    @weshohler7601 Před 2 lety +10

    Count me in on a 1897 also Mike! Hands down this is my favorite pump shotgun ever.
    I love the craftsmanship and quality Sir! Keep up the great work.

  • @SHOT_GUNNER
    @SHOT_GUNNER Před rokem +11

    I’d love to have one of those 1897’s 🤠👍🏻

  • @MrRichardgower
    @MrRichardgower Před 2 lety +10

    Mike, I cannot wait for that shotgun to come out! Those will sell like hotcakes....still hoping for the .22 winchester pump one of these days:) Thanks for all you do.

  • @Almost_Made_It
    @Almost_Made_It Před rokem +8

    I hope you make versions in the standard configuration. I missed out when you last made them but love the look

  • @x.The.Chad.x
    @x.The.Chad.x Před rokem +3

    My granddad owned a 1897 trench, and i always wanted one myself, i hope to see you guys release your version soon so i can buy one

  • @warmachine_1396
    @warmachine_1396 Před 2 lety +9

    Love every Cimarron I've ever bought. Quality has always been impeccable. Keep up the good work and hire me so I can work for a company I believe in.

  • @Foozno
    @Foozno Před rokem +8

    I just heard about this not too long ago, im stoked, cant wait till you guys release em

  • @map3384
    @map3384 Před 2 lety +5

    Mike I can’t tell you how much I’ve been pleased with the Cimarron model 1886 standard sporting rifle I recently purchased. Currently I’ve got another Cimarron beauty on layaway. A model 1894 sporting rifle in 38-55. The color case hardening is just as beautiful as is on my 1886. I’ve been waiting forever for someone to make reproduction of the 1897 trench gun. I really can’t wait to get my hands on your offering. Many thanks for all your hard work.

  • @rickyb4933
    @rickyb4933 Před 2 lety +1

    Very cool...I look forward to seeing it in the future

  • @hotrodbob6573
    @hotrodbob6573 Před 2 lety +1

    Looking forward to getting one, love the 1897

  • @hellfireman7
    @hellfireman7 Před 2 lety +2

    Very excited to purchase one when they’re available!

  • @SniperC175
    @SniperC175 Před 2 lety +1

    Simply awesome!

  • @XFyrmn
    @XFyrmn Před 2 lety +5

    I like the idea of the solid frame versus take down. But to be truthful, I would purchase either version as I have enjoyed Cimarron products over the years. I would definitely like to own such a historical firearm (or exact replica)!

  • @justinweaver8787
    @justinweaver8787 Před 2 lety +1

    Definitely look forward to this

  • @George.Floyd.Official
    @George.Floyd.Official Před rokem +6

    Hella excited, would definitely buy a few, any idea if they will come out in 2023 or 2024?

  • @ihateleftards
    @ihateleftards Před 2 lety +2

    Definitely go with the solid frame. I'll be buying one.

  • @TheAdventureCowboy
    @TheAdventureCowboy Před 2 lety +2

    Looks like a fun gun.
    I would sure like to dig into those safes!!
    I gotta say...that commercial in the middle with the elk is pretty great. 😉

  • @PanchoSmitty1122
    @PanchoSmitty1122 Před 2 lety +8

    I have been waiting for years! So happy y’all are gonna start making them! About when are you expecting to start having them available to ship?

  • @tjruss9658
    @tjruss9658 Před rokem +7

    I am looking forward to this please do it in a slamfire

  • @RyukieDuo
    @RyukieDuo Před 2 lety +3

    I've actually been in the market for one of the clones. But they've gotten expensive. I might wait for one of yours. Keep us updated Mike!

  • @user-zb5eu5bk8b
    @user-zb5eu5bk8b Před rokem +5

    *Works great, nice height.*

  • @michaeljones3159
    @michaeljones3159 Před 2 lety +1

    Never enough of these

  • @mikeofmanymikes2630
    @mikeofmanymikes2630 Před rokem +1

    Looks like a beauty. I'm more interested in that painting in the background though.

  • @jimmyggh1
    @jimmyggh1 Před 2 lety +1

    Can't wait!

  • @NeroLordofChaos
    @NeroLordofChaos Před 2 lety +1

    I've been wanting a 1897 trenchgun for years. It's a very classically sexy gun but they're workhorses to be sure.

  • @alec2133
    @alec2133 Před 2 lety +2

    Solid frame would be great

  • @kevincollier4147
    @kevincollier4147 Před 2 lety +3

    Solid frame? Okay, I can live with that, owning several 97s and Model 12s that have gotten loose over the years.

  • @Alolan.Vulpix.Getting.Railed

    looking forward to this alot, definitely will buy one

  • @drewstewart3775
    @drewstewart3775 Před rokem +7

    Any news on this one?

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před rokem

      Nothing to report at the moment. Thanks!

  • @jameswilliams3241
    @jameswilliams3241 Před rokem +1

    I am looking forward to getting this weapon. My grandfather carried one chasing Doroteo Arango ( Pancho Villa) and my father used one on WW2 and Korea.

  • @maxswain4011
    @maxswain4011 Před 2 lety +3

    Hell yeah! Solid frame please I’ll definitely take one.

  • @oldironsfury
    @oldironsfury Před rokem +5

    Out of stock until (maybe) 2024

  • @evocati6523
    @evocati6523 Před 2 lety +2

    Looks good, I hope it'll be in stock. Most of your guns are difficult to find right now

  • @tmartin3151
    @tmartin3151 Před 2 lety +2

    True copy capable of Slam fire = purchase.

  • @danielober884
    @danielober884 Před rokem

    I held one of your 1897 while in a local gun store. Unfortunately I wasn’t smart enough to have bought it that day. I would dearly love to get one of your 1897.

  • @EL-Duder-Reno
    @EL-Duder-Reno Před 2 lety

    I think many of us would love to see it as a take dow.

  • @oregonoutback7779
    @oregonoutback7779 Před 2 lety +1

    A Trench Gun? This makes me feel like one of the Pointer Sisters !!

  • @patgray5402
    @patgray5402 Před rokem

    Can't wait

  • @65stang98
    @65stang98 Před rokem

    ive always wanted one of these

  • @texasghostrider9644
    @texasghostrider9644 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm just glad y'all's company is located here in Texas. God bless Texas. By the way can y'all keep me informed when y'all have some schofields number twos models. I am looking to get a 7-in barrel as well as a 5-in barrel and nickel silver. And if it ain't too much trouble I to get to walkers and two whitleyville dragoons.

  • @tristanmetzger9907
    @tristanmetzger9907 Před rokem +4

    Any news on the gun? It’s been almost 2 years.

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před rokem +4

      Still working with the manufacturer to get it correct. Thanks!

    • @tristanmetzger9907
      @tristanmetzger9907 Před rokem +4

      @@cimarronFA Thank you for the reply

  • @AndrewRyanNoGodsOrKings
    @AndrewRyanNoGodsOrKings Před rokem +5

    When you guys begin to produce these, will you guys make them indefinitely or will you only make a few hundred or a few thousand then stop production?

  • @Theeyeiiiii
    @Theeyeiiiii Před 2 lety +4

    Takedown for sure. Easier to transport. Plus with materials and technology now a days a takedown is just as strong as a non takedown. Winchester is doing it with their lever actions.

  • @PhuVet
    @PhuVet Před rokem +3

    Please release this... I missed out on the Chinese ones. Really want one. If a takedown and a bayonet lugged fixed 1897 are released, ill buy both.

  • @Bucky1836
    @Bucky1836 Před 2 lety +2

    The marlin 17 and an Evans repeater , Burgess pump shotgun and rifle (idc if its a folder) and the 1878 colt DA or the Winchester 1876 protype revolver would be cool to see revived...IMHO

  • @garymcbroom
    @garymcbroom Před 2 lety +1

    Really wish you would reconsider that “Takedown”. I think it’s a must have.

  • @plaid13
    @plaid13 Před rokem +5

    How come the bayonet mount and barrel are not lined up? Something is wrong there. Barrel shouldnt be sticking out farther.

  • @Alb3rt0G
    @Alb3rt0G Před 2 lety

    I bought a cimarron 1897 a few years back and it’s still brand new never fired. Not because I chose to but because it has light primer strikes and has never been able to fire off a round.

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 Před 2 lety +1

    Mike, I got replica M1897 made by Norinco. I only have as a wall hanger and range toy because I don’t fully trust the sturdiness of the build. It hasn’t ever given me any problems or fail to chamber & fire all kinds of different ammo but as a home defense weapon I can’t trust it’ll make the grade at the moment of truth. I’d be VERY interested in a Cimarron reproduction of this historical piece.

  • @tylercombs6148
    @tylercombs6148 Před 2 lety +1

    Y’all should make a Elmer Keith tribute number 5

  • @richd5025
    @richd5025 Před 2 lety +1

    Looking to get a Cimarron 1873 Winchester. Maybe a 1872 open top too.

  • @stevenh.390
    @stevenh.390 Před 2 lety

    I would love a replica Trench Gun.

  • @eclectic3618
    @eclectic3618 Před rokem +6

    Did ya make em ?
    I have an original but would rather a less expensive one to play with lol

  • @loupuleff571
    @loupuleff571 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe you can make two versions one take down one solid I'll be buying both if you do !

  • @darkmatter3192
    @darkmatter3192 Před 2 lety

    I would also like to get one of your 1897 pump shotguns. I have your 1887 lever gun in the works as well.

  • @michaelw.urbansr.8617
    @michaelw.urbansr.8617 Před 2 lety +1

    I already own one of your long guns and its a 357 lever gun!!! I JUST LOVE IT! I have been searching for one of these Trench guns for some time now and cant afford an original? So if your going to build these and price them right ,about how much are they going to cost? I was looking for shotguns ot upgrade to look like this or buy one out right but im waiting for yours?!?!?!?!?!? Lets us know when they will be coming out PLEASE? and HOW MUCH???

  • @robertmartinez1645
    @robertmartinez1645 Před 2 lety

    I have an 1897 Winchester that was manufactured in 1908. It was converted into a trench gun. Shoots without any hiccups. I would love to have a new reproduction! God Bless. 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @thepoastman209
    @thepoastman209 Před rokem +7

    Are you still going to make it or have you side lined the program

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před rokem +2

      Still working on it. Thanks!

    • @thepoastman209
      @thepoastman209 Před rokem +1

      @@cimarronFA thank you cant wait !

    • @KJ-qr9sm
      @KJ-qr9sm Před rokem

      ​@Cimarron Firearms I can't wait I'm gonna try and save up for it in this economy.

  • @ilikejelloyay208
    @ilikejelloyay208 Před rokem +1

    Any news on the 1897? I want! 😊

  • @matzpimp
    @matzpimp Před 2 lety +1

    Please let me know when you guys start selling these. Should go nice with my m1 garand

  • @richardcolligon4277
    @richardcolligon4277 Před 2 lety +1

    I love takedown rifle's and shotgun's, you could make one of each and then I'll buy both. Sincerely Ruger Rich

  • @johnnyrocko2933
    @johnnyrocko2933 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m saving the money now for one and I don’t even know the price!!

  • @travisgoff7252
    @travisgoff7252 Před rokem +3

    Hey Mike, do you have any estimation on when these guns will be released? Will they be released around Christmas time?

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před rokem +2

      No release date, but definitely not by Christmas. It is a looooooong process and we've been working on this model about 7 years.

  • @lancehawkins1756
    @lancehawkins1756 Před 2 lety +2

    Is it still in the works?

  • @kansaswrangler9893
    @kansaswrangler9893 Před rokem

    Will this new project offer the new 1897 in different barrel lengths? Such as 26 inches or 30 inches.

  • @lancehawkins1756
    @lancehawkins1756 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Any news on this

  • @BradEaton-wg4nz
    @BradEaton-wg4nz Před 3 dny

    Has there been any forward movement on bring this model out

  • @henrysara7716
    @henrysara7716 Před 2 lety +2

    Solid frame in 12 and 20 ga please.

  • @glenndi1
    @glenndi1 Před 2 lety +2

    I’ll take two

  • @dcoxtimberridge
    @dcoxtimberridge Před rokem +2

    WHERE CAN I GET ONE

  • @TDONLEY91
    @TDONLEY91 Před 2 lety

    When will these be coming to market

  • @coolcataye
    @coolcataye Před 2 lety +1

    You don't have any of those, or any shotguns on your website in stock or at all.. You should start producing many of those trench guns and other shotguns. I'm very much interested.

  • @paulstephens4822
    @paulstephens4822 Před 2 lety +2

    Make it hold 6 in the tube and it's more desirable than the competition. Lot of debate on 5 vs. 6. Many can fit 6 but may be due to old springs or of spec measurements. If you can make it 6 in the tube stock then I won't bother looking for an original Winchester.

  • @EL-Duder-Reno
    @EL-Duder-Reno Před 2 lety

    When might this go into production?

  • @Fenrirsulfre
    @Fenrirsulfre Před měsícem

    Are these in production yet? I can't find it anywhere!

  • @toyfreddygayming6940
    @toyfreddygayming6940 Před 11 měsíci +1

    will it still slamfire when they come back? because if so im 100% getting one

  • @Kutchjoseph
    @Kutchjoseph Před 2 lety

    Another up vote. Keep the slam fire. Prefer as close to the military model with the correct markings. Take down. No.

  • @Ikeepthepeace93
    @Ikeepthepeace93 Před rokem +1

    When are you guys going to sell some more?

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před rokem +1

      Soon hopefully. Thanks!

    • @Ikeepthepeace93
      @Ikeepthepeace93 Před rokem

      @@cimarronFA anytime! I really want to buy my first shotgun. I feel like this will be good for years

  • @drgandalf2003
    @drgandalf2003 Před rokem +5

    Make it a takedown and I'll buy one.

  • @jasondesselles9168
    @jasondesselles9168 Před rokem

    Can't find any in stock anywhere.

  • @Sniperfox1
    @Sniperfox1 Před 2 lety +1

    Make both styles if possible.

  • @splintercell275
    @splintercell275 Před rokem +6

    Will this simply be an imported Norinco or will this be something else? Do you have any details on how this might be different than a Norinco or IAC?

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před rokem

      Not an imported Norinco or IAC. It is what Mike is describing in the video. Thanks!

  • @frankbelgarde1379
    @frankbelgarde1379 Před 2 lety

    Will it slam fire? Will it come with a bayonet?

  • @claytonreeve69
    @claytonreeve69 Před 2 měsíci

    Was this ever released? If so I can never find this firearm anywhere I look

    • @patgray5402
      @patgray5402 Před 2 měsíci

      It's not released yet.

    • @claytonreeve69
      @claytonreeve69 Před měsícem

      @@patgray5402 oh okay do you know of an estimated time of release?

    • @patgray5402
      @patgray5402 Před měsícem

      @@claytonreeve69 No telling. I've seen these types of things take years.

    • @claytonreeve69
      @claytonreeve69 Před měsícem

      @@patgray5402 dang alrighty I’ll just have to wait

  • @thealsatian4232
    @thealsatian4232 Před 2 lety +3

    As long as it is not made in China, you will get my business.

    • @JWheeler331
      @JWheeler331 Před 2 lety +1

      It probably will be. I think that is who are making their 87s that will be available soon.

    • @pipe_cowboy5742
      @pipe_cowboy5742 Před 2 lety +3

      I’ll buy one regardless. Never had a bad gun from cimarron and I’ve got over a dozen, some rifles some revolvers, and got a double barrel on back order with my local gun shop.

    • @JWheeler331
      @JWheeler331 Před 2 lety +2

      @@pipe_cowboy5742 Don’t bother me either. Cimarron goes to great lengths to make sure the guns are right.

    • @pipe_cowboy5742
      @pipe_cowboy5742 Před 2 lety +2

      @@JWheeler331 indeed they put more detail in any one gun they sell than Winchester has in any of the actual Winchester named newer generation models.

    • @thealsatian4232
      @thealsatian4232 Před 2 lety +1

      @@pipe_cowboy5742 that’s part of the problem. China is not a friend

  • @sethaldarith6778
    @sethaldarith6778 Před 2 lety +1

    What's the time frame on these?

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před 2 lety +1

      Probably a few more years until they are available. Thanks!

    • @sethaldarith6778
      @sethaldarith6778 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cimarronFA Damn, what am I supposed to shoot until then!?
      Thanks for the response :)

  • @shwesq
    @shwesq Před 2 lety

    If I am not mistaken, you can't take down an this gun without removing the heat shield/bayonet lug assembly first. So that limits the utility of that feature on a Trenchgun. Will Cimaron's gun have the revised firing pin that Coyote Cap designed to make the gun less apt to go off if dropped?

  • @ag3ntx
    @ag3ntx Před 2 lety +1

    Shut up and take my money!

  • @classicgunstoday1972
    @classicgunstoday1972 Před 2 lety +1

    Introduced by a choir of Charlie Brown’s teachers

  • @richardkluesek4301
    @richardkluesek4301 Před 2 lety

    Like a modern trench gun, the heat shield should be longer to reach the receiver. Not only to protect the hands from burns but to distinguish the 'improved' reissued version from collectible originals.

  • @Almost_Made_It
    @Almost_Made_It Před 2 měsíci

    Greetings from 2 years in the future and absolutely zero updates on this project👋

  • @pb68slab18
    @pb68slab18 Před 2 lety

    16ga ?????

  • @MARKO2465
    @MARKO2465 Před 2 lety +1

    Where is the 1887 we were promised back in march? Why talk about the 1897 when the other one has not been released yet.

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před 2 lety

      They are being packed to be shipped to distributors at the moment. Will be available soon (less than a month). Thanks!

    • @MARKO2465
      @MARKO2465 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cimarronFA Can I buy direct from you in a few weeks or now?

    • @cimarronFA
      @cimarronFA  Před 2 lety

      @@MARKO2465 I believe we may have already sold them to distributors long ago, but please call us at 830 997 9090 and one of our sales staff may be able to help you track one down. Thanks!

  • @MathewReed037
    @MathewReed037 Před 10 měsíci

    Whatever happened with these?

    • @patgray5402
      @patgray5402 Před 9 měsíci

      He replied a few comments down they are still working with the factory.