Scottish Independence - the 5 minute guide (ft.
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- The people of Scotland voted to stay in the UK in 2014, but Scottish independence is still a prominent issue in British politics. Why? Here's a 5 minute guide to the story, (with a cameo from the EU Made Simple).
Also, check out this video from @EUMadeSimple discussing Scotland joining the EU: • SCOTLAND will struggle...
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Scottish Independence lives on 00:00
Scotland lost its parliament in 1707 00:12
Devolution in Scotland 00:45
Rise of the Scottish National Party 01:28
The 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum 02:09
SNP recovery & Brexit 02:30
the indyref2 stalemate 03:12
What would an independent Scotland be like? 03:51
Other issues (ft @EUMadeSimple) 04:12
Economic risks of Scottish independence 04:29
#scotland #indyref2
Check out The EU Made Simple's video about Scotland joining the EU! czcams.com/video/2N7LGHi5-Xk/video.html
Hello from the Republic of Sakha (Yakutsk). Please made video about Sakha. We Sakha same situation like Tatarstan and Bashkortostan.
Great video. I'm glad I found out about your chanel from EU made simple!!
Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it!
Another great summary! I’d say that I’m actually a little less inclined to think independence is on its way now than I was even two or three years ago. Brexit has been a big shock. But I think to many Scots, even those who say they want independence, are very indeed very risk averse. Much more so than the English - who, after all, voted for Brexit. And the euro seems to be a sticking point for many Scots (I don’t know why).
Thanks! I could be wrong (Lord Robertson has shown us how predictions of the end of nationalism can go really badly), but I suspect there won't be a referendum anytime soon. The SNP is an impressive electoral machine, but no party can stay in power forever, and once the Tories are out in Westminster I suspect Labour's fortunes will rebound and the SNP will be out of power for a good few years. I agree Brexit has probably made the whole venture seem less attractive, plus oil revenues will probably decline. It's hard to see how there will ever be a better opportunity than the SNP had in 2014 to be honest. But as I said, I could be wrong! Thanks for watching and commenting once again!
What is the worry about the Euro? Some EU members do use a national currency, and some European non-EU-members use the Euro. If the Euro's unpopular Scotland is free to not have it, as far as I know.
I really do enjoy the five minute guides you do, especially in regards to potential new countries. I’d really love to see a video on Tibet, East Turkistan, or Catalonia in the near future. That being said, I’m honestly a bit torn. While I would indeed love to see more of your five minute guides, I also miss your longer form content as well. I really do hope you intend to make more longer form videos as well.
Hiya, really glad you like the latest string of videos. I'm going to keep them up because they allow me to cover a much broader range of topics, and I find the process of making a 5 minute video much less of a slog than a 20 min one.
However, I'd love to get to a place like EU Made Simple. He makes a short video every week, and a longer video once a month. I'd like that very much in fact!
@@FredoRockwell well in any case, I’ll keep watching whatever type videos you make. I’ve yet to disappointed by anything I’ve seen from you!
Aw, that's really nice of you to say! Thank you!
@@FredoRockwell you’re very welcome!
Even though I would love to see Scotland rejoin the EU, I still don't support independence.
If there is anything that we should have learned from Brexit, it's that putting up barriers to your closest neighbours (= trading partners), is not a good idea. I'm not sure the UK government would want to give Scotland a favourable trade deal after independence, but especially when Scotland wants to join the EU, trade barriers will become necessary.
I also don't like the message Scottish independence would send. If two peoples that are as closely linked as the Scots and the English can't live under the same laws, what does this mean for the rest of Europe?
I think we think very much alike on this!
I really wouldn’t be buying into the narrative that England “ HoLdS aLl tHe CaRdS “, we done that with Brexit, the naive bough it up, unsurprisingly it turned out to be complete nonsense.
Ukraine entry into the EI is predicted to take couple years, don’t see why Scotland would take anymore. Scotland would probably get really good terms joining the EU as an independent country. The U.K. the only country to leave the EU, to go on and destroy itself a couple years later, to have the EU control Englands border anyway, It sounds like a comedy sketch, some message that sends out to any countries even thinking about leaving the EU.
Scotland's parliament was not dissolved in 1707. England's was but Scotland's was prorogued. There is a major difference.
Great video, love this topic and always interested to hear the what’s and the how’s of this one.
Thanks Fredo.
Glad your liked it!
Came here from EU Made Simple! I think rejoining the EU it’s going to be a huge problem for Scottland. The England border and Spains veto will be the 2 biggest obstacles
Thanks for visiting - please feel free to stay a while!
I think you're right, although I can imagine scenarios in which the Scottish government agrees to the border changes and even then euro, but I don't think there's much chance that Spain will allow Scotland in. During the Brexit process, it was clear the EU wanted to avoid a situation where leaving was economically beneficial for the UK. I'm sure Spain and other EU members Will want to about Scotland being better off as independent. Keeping them out of the EU is an easy way to do this.
Spain i don’t think would be an issue because has already come out and said they wouldn’t veto Scotland but it doesn’t mean other countries won’t like for example Germany has bevaria to worry about and France has its own seperatist movement and the border with England will be tough
@Thomas Bootham Do you think Spain will stick to this position, or could it change if the People's Party came back into power? I suspect they might take a harder line.
@@FredoRockwell it’s possible things always change
@@thomasbootham2707 Bavaria isn't really an issue. The people there just like to poke fun at Berlin, but no one serious wants to separate. Spain is the biggest obstacle. The ones that could also veto are Slovakia and Romania with large Hungarian minorities that want to break off.Those 3 countries also don't recognise Kosovo
Wow great video but I hope you make a video on the Western Cape independence movement and if you didn't know the Western Cape is a province in South Africa who have been seeking independence since 2009 but it got popular in 2020.
I'm glad you liked it! I've actually started gathering info about #Capexit. I'm not sure when I'll make that video, but it's an interesting movement.
Your videos are amazing. I really like it. I am a new subscriber to your channel. Can I talk with you Fredo?
My favorite with the issue has to be from the Supreme Court verdict from the aftermath by Joyce Mcmillan "because Scotland isn't a colony, it can be treated like one"
That's a good line - I didn't hear that!
I can kind of get how people might feel like Scotland is a colony, but it's not in any meaningful way. It's just an area where there is a relatively high support for independence (but not high enough to have won it).
Well she's revealed her lobotomy, hasn't she?
@@FredoRockwell that's untrue. Scotland fits the definition of a colony very well. Language destroyed, constitution ripped up and Englands forced on us, our resources are controlled and used by England,65% of our taxes go south to London. Scotland might not look like s colony on the surface but dig a little deeper
There are historic events from many many centuries ago which smack of colonialism, but to call Scotland a colony today isn't really meaningful in my opinion.
Yes, the Scottish native language has been largely replaced, but no one is forced to speak English today. In fact, the UK government pays a relatively large amount to preserve native language speaking where it endures.
Also, Scotish people are not discriminated against in any meaningful way, and many Scots have assumed positions of great power across the UK. We even had a Scottish Prime Minister as recently as 2010.
Re taxes, complaints about tax money allocation happen in any large country. You'll hear the same thing from Albertans in Canada, and Texans in the US. Do we want to call every region that generates excess tax revenues a colony?
There very real issues to discus about democracy and autonomy for Scotland, and possibly independence, but I don't think referring to Scotland as a colony advances those (and possibly devalues the very real colonial situations in other countries).
Hi can you make a video about Tibet
Hi! It's on my list. I'm hoping to cover all of the main independence movements in China this year. Tibet will probably be the next one but I haven't yet put it on my schedule. I will soon though!
I'm just wondering, Has the Welsh independence movement grow in popularity since Brexit? and is there a Cornwall independence movement?
Good questions! Regarding Wales, no it hasn't. Unlike Scotland, Wales voted for Brexit so there wasn't the same sense of (understandable) outrage from the vote. It's my understanding support for Welsh independence is currently in decline, but that may be temporary. There is a Cornwall independence movement, but I don't think it's very big and it's certainly not nationally prominent.
I am Welsh and can confirm to you that Welsh independence has declined by quite a large margin, with it only being necessarily supported in rural coastal parts of Western Wales. As for Cornwall, the independence movement is dead as far as I am aware, with the official Cornish Independence Party stating themselves that they do not even want independence anymore, rather just devolution. If you are wondering about movements that have grown on the other hand, Scotland's did go up, but declined slightly at the start of the year due to Nicola Sturgeons transgender bill. Northern Ireland's national part is growing slowly and is emerging, but is not necessarily too strong at the minute. As of recently though, a Northern England Independence movement (Northumbria as they call themselves) has been gradually growing up there. Although the Northern Independence party is not fully recognised nor fully official, a Northern Independence/ Devolution movement has most certainly started to become a thing, with a Northern Identity most definitely growing as years go by.
@eddie thanks for this! I'm an early draft of my script I included how devolution was meant to originally include English regions. I remember the Geordie parliament getting voted down and I've always wondered what would have happened if it'd passed....
@@eddie2913 Hi, cornishman here. We're taking baby steps atm. Seeing as our nationhood is disputed is by the english, that issue would need to be sorted before an independence movement could take off. Devolution seeks a clear constitutional separation of Cornwall and england. Independence can wait.
Support for Welsh independence has decreased over the last few years to about 18%. But in the early 2000s it was about 3-4% so it does go up and down a fair bit over the years. In 10 years who knows where it might be.
There was disagreement as to what type of union should be used.
Confederation where the two countries effectively remained separate (two separate parliaments) but with a single meeting place as well. (Similar to the EEC)
vs
An integrating union that merged the two kingdoms fully into a unitary state.
In the end the integration union won and the unitary UK was created.
Devolution was a way to move towards a looser Federal UK and appease the need for self governance, but maintain an integrated market and integrated systems such as defence capability to allow a quick unified response in a crisis.
Scotland get your country bauck
You make it sound like Scottish independence is a utilitarian issue for the Scots but this misses the mark. Its about the right of a people to govern themselves regardless of the short-term economic consequences
Thanks for your comment! I do address the utilitarian aspect, but I didn't make this up. It's a fundamental part of the pro-independence arguments. It's perfectly possible for someone to think independence would be economically disastrous but still think independence was worth the price. That's just not the case the SNP or other groups I know of make.
No it is not. Scotland petitioned to become part of Great Britain after the Darien Venture when it and its aristocracy were bankrupt, and incidentally the union of the crowns took place much earlier, in 1603 under a Scottish king! The 1707 Union of Parliaments was broadly welcomed by Lowland Scots. The right of who is the legal government in Scotland was settled by the referendum in 2014.
@@davidstovell4084 I don't think Scottish Independence is in the best interest of the Scottish people because of how it would impact their lives today. What happened hundreds of years ago is interesting, but it's not a justification for anything other than in a purely legal sense.
@@davidstovell4084 David you've spouted so many lies in that comment. 1. 3 4ths of Scotland were against the union, even the delegates at the time said so. There were riots in Edinburgh, Dumfries, Stirling, Aberdeen, Selkirk, Melrose. There was union burnings, militias rasied across the land, a planned coup of Edinburgh. Please don't tell historical lies, Scotland was forced into union by the Alien Act 1705. Research it.