Thanks for the info man i thought i eas screwed my hub motor wires got pinched it was called something in the motor to vibrate when I found your video I found it I just left the hall center unplugged reverse the phase wires and now it's running smooth thank God I don't have no speedometer or mile per hour but at least I can ride it to work now until I can get it fixed thanks again for the info you saved me
I love you 😍 man, fried motor on 2000w system, fixed hall sensors on old QS hub, put it on bike, thunk thunk, watched other videos this is best, saved me time, my phase wires were same, so I just copied your hall wires, boom, success 😀, happy riding my friend, your a summer fun saver
I have a motor that has a white wire included with the 5 hall sensor wires. My replacement controller does not have a white wire. after connecting everything power but the motor does not move.
i bought a 1500w rear hub motor i connect all the wires & i got error 10, after watching your video i got an idea to reshuffle the three wires on yellow box & i got it to work the motor, thank you for this video
I was thinking about using the 16-22 size crimp on bullet connectors for my 6 hall sensor wires. Then I could just plug and unplug them. (for easy testing purposes) Do you think that is a good idea ?
My scooter goes reverse on the back wheel. The yellow green phase and yellow green halls makes it noisy but it’s working if the front is activated and not make the EEWWW noise and I did tons of trials. Can I share the front halls to the back? OrherwiE normal wiring stock like it’s wiring color matches worked but burns from back and front on the opposite way
Hi there can’t you do a 3000w pwm controller to a brushless motor 3 phase wire using a 48v 20A , tricking bike controller that I ‘m using a higher Amp battery
Did you say you joined phase lines from controller, but then the phase lines changed again to the motor? I got my motor on a trike to spin but it won't move if I even hold it back with a finger never mind me sitting on it, so just wondering if the phase lines change again to motor and how they know as it's only wire? Haha, obviously I'm not an electrician or "trician" of any kind. Thanks from England for the video.
Whats your battery voltage? I don't see the point of loading the bike up with 2 motors and around 3000W + of controllers and motors if your not planning to either climb extremly steep terrain or plan very high speeds with higher battery voltages. Might as well save the weight and the amount of items drawing power and just go for one motor and one controller. i'm going one 1500W motor and controller with 72V nominal (84V max) for high speed and for lower speeds and more power i would choose a lower voltage and lower voltage controller but a high power one for hill climbing.
how long have you had your dnm shock im thinking of swiping my dnm coil shock with an air one but im worried about leaks with the air shock iv seem mixed reviews on the air shock
@@karmaEbikes. yea iv got one of the enduro ebike frames with the whole battery compartment filled with 35ah of battery's at 20s the bike weights over 120lbs and im 250+ whatever im carrying on the back on the custom Rack i made that house the controller and its all sprung weight
Given my Chinese conversion kit didn't come with instructions on which phase wires go where, is there any way to kinda get an idea, or do we just always gotta just put it together and give it a little go to see if it works and retry??
first setup of the phase and hall wires? i start out with this formula H-YY-BB-GG P-YY-BB-GG if your lucky it work. if not try H-YY-BG-BG P-YY-BG-BG AND SO ON.
Your front motor seems to respond to the throttle just a touch quicker than the rear motor. I would probably swap the controllers round so the faster responding motor would be on the rear. Nice project😎, us e-bikers never seem to stop modifying or playing with things all the time. My bike will probably never be completely done as I'm constantly adding or improving things to make it better. Also, e-bike tech just keeps on getting better all the time☺. I wonder what will be the next "must have" in the near future.😁
Hi, I have a problem with my KT 1500w 18 mosfet controller. I upgraded to the KT from the original controller that came with my voilamart 1000w hub. when I twist the throttle at low speeds I can feel a vibrating which fades out the faster I go. I'm wondering if this is down to the phase/hall setup been different on the controller or maybe I'm feeling the motor stepping between the magnets more due to the extra amps? any help would be appreciated thanks
So i have an issue maybe you can help. My electric scooter fried the battery for idk what reason and i ended up buying an escooter hub kit but it does not fit on scooter its way too big so i cut the wires and put the connectors on the old motor cause it still looks good inside. I turned it on and it worked! I thought it was a success but it would not stop running even with throttle not moving so i turn it on and off a few times and then it wouldnt power on anymore. So i unplugged the battery and plugged it back in but it sparked and fried the connector “i have more” but when i looked carefully one of the connectors that you connect from motor kit to controller has an extra white wire and i just taped it down thinking it wont be an issue. But i have a feeling its because the controller and old motor wheel are not compatible. Or am i doing something wrong? Please help.
Hello thank you for the video. I hear in your video the motor kind made a zipping noise similar to mine. I’m thinking something is wrong with it but now don’t know. Is there a way I could send you the video for help?
Why do I need a stupid controller thing to run a dc motor can I use a 1000 Watt inverter as a controller and a switch and pump the ac voltage into an 1000 Watt hi reving ac motor that’s what I’m going to do or try to do
How can I wire a 48v e bike battery pack to a chinese 1000w motor? I'm trying to swap onto a 50cc pitbike frame so I know I'm gonna have to swap the engine wires to run in reverse( or can I just use a foward reverse switch? )
Was hoping you could assist. Pretty frustrated yo say the least. I bought a controller 5 days ago and stopped giving me 5v. Then I bought another and still the same altho now my red and black wires to hall sensor showing 9v. I have absolutely no idea what is going on and can't get the bike to respond to motor. The motor works. I am pretty good with ebikes but this issue has basically put me into a breakdown. Lok
sounds like you have short to 5v or to phase. test all wires going into your motor. test each lead to ground. that being the stator. good luck i feel your pain. been there .
@@karmaEbikes. I've tested it so much I was screaming. Then I found a snapped copper coil elading into phase wire. I tried to clean it up and I'm now getting a bit of movement but I may need to buy a motor now. Ughh. Gone through two controllers this week and pretty sure the other is fine. Thanks for the reply. As for the snapped coil it was just a couple threads andbibtried to stick it all back together. I'd buy a motor tomorrow but not sure what I'm looking for. I really will keep working at this because I'm desperate to get it going for my business
My ebike is all setup, haven't rode it yet. Do hub motors need to be 'self learned" before using it? Mine already goes forward and seems to work great but idk
If your hub is spinning forward then it doesn't need to learn and can probably run without hall sensors also. The learning line is only there for when you first ever connect a new controller but I have an older hub and it needed a new controller and learning line was needed, but a newer hub I have didn't need a learning line and also works without hall wires? Haha, if only they were made by the same factory.
@@nixonsmateruby1 I learned the difference in that time. The self learning line is there to reverse the polarity of a motor (direction it's spinning) if needed. Only sine wave controllers need to learn the hub motor and so sine wave controllers will come with a self learning wire
@@karmaEbikes. Hi thanks for the speedy response how can I work the problem out,as I said when I plugged the PAS connector in the rear wheel will spin as if I'm pedaling but I'm not.and when I ride it the motor doesn't immediately stop when I stop pedeling it still gives power for an extra 5 seconds or so any ideas ? Do I have to change the phase wire combination.
goes by many names. here's a link . www.amazon.ca/Connection-Electrical-Controller-Connector-Compatible/dp/B09BZG1C1R/ref=sr_1_37?crid=377WQTXQ2MWU&keywords=ebike+battery+connector&qid=1669602493&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjgwIiwicXNhIjoiMy4xOCIsInFzcCI6IjIuMjUifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=ebike+battery+connector%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-37
ebike phase connector. but also work well for power ect. www.amazon.ca/Electric-Controller-Connection-Insulation-Connector/dp/B093GHMTCV/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=ebike+phase+connector&qid=1620974537&sr=8-21
Nice work man, I have sabvaton 72/200a, Can someone please show me how to add reverse feature to my e-bike ?, even though I don’t have reverse plug on my controller or the learning wires.
I bought a new motor and my positive and negative wire from hall sensor is on different side then my controller red is on the left and black is on the left on crotroller. Can this be fixed?
the easy way is to cut and solder. i like to use a small screwdriver and on the side of each pin the is a small tab keeping you from pulling the wire out of the socket. bend the tab in and pull out each pin. when out bend the tab back out before changing the order.
@@karmaEbikes. but how does that work when my controler i cant change the wire inside. And the same as the motor hub. I will be attachin the positive from the controler to the negative of the hub motor and the samenwith grnd will now go to thw positive of the controll2
Good day sir. I have a question my 3 phase wire is hot when you touch it even I'm using slow speed. May I know sir what is the reason why this happened to my phase wire?
@@karmaEbikes. ok thanks for the reply mate I will try this tomorrow just tried my old controller and that's fine so it must be something to do with the census yes it has got self-learning
Ah, I've been wondering about this..'cos I have a few problems with wiring up a Sabvoton controller.. My ebike I built is a Voilamart 1500w 48v rear hub drive with a 52v20ah battery... I wanted more power so I bought a Sabvoton 7245M controller (it's 45amp sine Wave £180) and when I've tried to wire it all up I twisted the throttle a little (whilst one hand held rear tyre off the ground) and I think the rear wheel was going round the correct way (forward) but I got hit hard on the leg by the goddamn peddled turning just in sync with the rear wheel... It was as if it had locked the 7speed derailleur cassette thing because the peddles were spinning the same as the rear wheel... At the time this terrified me so (didn't know how to fix the wiring) I switched back to the stock Voilamart 30amp controller but anyway I'm wondering, do I need to try changing the Yellow & Green (thicker phase(?) wires so instead of yellow to yellow (and green to green - I understand Blue Always goes to Blue) it's instead yellow to green and then the green to yellow (if you understand my babbling?)... Any help is greatly appreciated as I'm really annoyed hat I've bought the better controller and I've been unable to use it... The 'spinning peddles' scared / scarred me into changing back to the old 'stock' Voilamart controller... Also on the Sabvoton controller there's 2 purple&black wires that splits off into 2x seperate purple & black wires that are labeled "low brake", are these the wires I attach to the 2 wire connections coming off of my front / rear bike brake levers? 'cos on the voila kit these stop the motors spinning when you grip/pull each of the front or rear bike brakes.. Also on my stock Voilamart controller (and my bike) there's no wires to link up to any display so I just use a phone speedo app for my speedometer.
Thanks for the info man i thought i eas screwed my hub motor wires got pinched it was called something in the motor to vibrate when I found your video I found it I just left the hall center unplugged reverse the phase wires and now it's running smooth thank God I don't have no speedometer or mile per hour but at least I can ride it to work now until I can get it fixed thanks again for the info you saved me
I love you 😍 man, fried motor on 2000w system, fixed hall sensors on old QS hub, put it on bike, thunk thunk, watched other videos this is best, saved me time, my phase wires were same, so I just copied your hall wires, boom, success 😀, happy riding my friend, your a summer fun saver
Qs 4 life
I have a motor that has a white wire included with the 5 hall sensor wires. My replacement controller does not have a white wire. after connecting everything power but the motor does not move.
White is speedometer 👍
i bought a 1500w rear hub motor i connect all the wires & i got error 10, after watching your video i got an idea to reshuffle the three wires on yellow box & i got it to work the motor, thank you for this video
Thank you for this video, it helped me fix my dad's 13-year-old e-bike. I got it right on the 1st try by swapping the hall sensor's Green and Blue :-)
thanks..my had the same pin out on on the phase wires as you do. Swapping the yellow and green worked..
I was thinking about using the 16-22 size crimp on bullet connectors for my 6 hall sensor wires. Then I could just plug and unplug them. (for easy testing purposes) Do you think that is a good idea ?
My scooter goes reverse on the back wheel. The yellow green phase and yellow green halls makes it noisy but it’s working if the front is activated and not make the EEWWW noise and I did tons of trials. Can I share the front halls to the back? OrherwiE normal wiring stock like it’s wiring color matches worked but burns from back and front on the opposite way
This was my problem I was struggling with today thank you I swap things around till I got the right combination thank you
thanks for your video helped me sort out my motor and sabvoton controller
Waw😄 I had visions of dumping my new controller. I'll try it tomorrow 👍👍👍
Hello can I use a controller with 5 hall wires with a motor with 6 hall wires?
Good tips, changing the phase wires works for me.
Great video. What could be happening when I connect a learning wire and the wheel only spins slowly for a second?
Thank you for all the information I understand that CZcams has given me
Hi there can’t you do a 3000w pwm controller to a brushless motor 3 phase wire using a 48v 20A , tricking bike controller that I ‘m using a higher Amp battery
Thank you for the information 🙏 😊...Great video guys 👦 👍🏽
First coherent comprehendible video I've seen about these type of problems! Thanks 👍 Do you have a direct line to get in touch.
Did you say you joined phase lines from controller, but then the phase lines changed again to the motor? I got my motor on a trike to spin but it won't move if I even hold it back with a finger never mind me sitting on it, so just wondering if the phase lines change again to motor and how they know as it's only wire? Haha, obviously I'm not an electrician or "trician" of any kind. Thanks from England for the video.
Thanks for the advice, after a bit of videling it worked
Whats your battery voltage? I don't see the point of loading the bike up with 2 motors and around 3000W + of controllers and motors if your not planning to either climb extremly steep terrain or plan very high speeds with higher battery voltages. Might as well save the weight and the amount of items drawing power and just go for one motor and one controller.
i'm going one 1500W motor and controller with 72V nominal (84V max) for high speed and for lower speeds and more power i would choose a lower voltage and lower voltage controller but a high power one for hill climbing.
how long have you had your dnm shock im thinking of swiping my dnm coil shock with an air one but im worried about leaks with the air shock iv seem mixed reviews on the air shock
there a lot of weight on this one and had no problems. picked it up last spring
@@karmaEbikes. yea iv got one of the enduro ebike frames with the whole battery compartment filled with 35ah of battery's at 20s the bike weights over 120lbs and im 250+ whatever im carrying on the back on the custom Rack i made that house the controller and its all sprung weight
Thanks bro ....be safe out there
Given my Chinese conversion kit didn't come with instructions on which phase wires go where, is there any way to kinda get an idea, or do we just always gotta just put it together and give it a little go to see if it works and retry??
first setup of the phase and hall wires? i start out with this formula H-YY-BB-GG P-YY-BB-GG if your lucky it work. if not try H-YY-BG-BG P-YY-BG-BG AND SO ON.
Nice. What's your bike setup. Motor wattage? Battery capacity? Top speed and travel range?
at the moment. 79v 20ah dual 500watt hub motors. speed? 49mph range no idea i never tested it do to i dont use a bms.
Your front motor seems to respond to the throttle just a touch quicker than the rear motor. I would probably swap the controllers round so the faster responding motor would be on the rear. Nice project😎, us e-bikers never seem to stop modifying or playing with things all the time. My bike will probably never be completely done as I'm constantly adding or improving things to make it better. Also, e-bike tech just keeps on getting better all the time☺. I wonder what will be the next "must have" in the near future.😁
it did and i loved it. the bike had a power band at half throttle. I'm sticking with a lower wattage controller for the rear.
I’m going to use a 1000Watt inverter as a controller and just a switch to pump the 240 Volts AC into a hi reving AC motor will that work
Hi, I have a problem with my KT 1500w 18 mosfet controller.
I upgraded to the KT from the original controller that came with my voilamart 1000w hub.
when I twist the throttle at low speeds I can feel a vibrating which fades out the faster I go.
I'm wondering if this is down to the phase/hall setup been different on the controller or maybe I'm feeling the motor stepping between the magnets more due to the extra amps?
any help would be appreciated thanks
does the new controller have the option to change the phase angle? if so try it you have 60 or 120 to choose from.
do you know which parameter it is to adjust this? unfortunately the instructions I have are limited I have p and c parameters on my screen settings
@@GiffordMusic sorry no there all different. most of the time its two wires that plug together . black or blue
You’re problem is now the hub , is not compatible for more controller power , I alway’s recommend buy a higher power kit
So i have an issue maybe you can help. My electric scooter fried the battery for idk what reason and i ended up buying an escooter hub kit but it does not fit on scooter its way too big so i cut the wires and put the connectors on the old motor cause it still looks good inside. I turned it on and it worked! I thought it was a success but it would not stop running even with throttle not moving so i turn it on and off a few times and then it wouldnt power on anymore. So i unplugged the battery and plugged it back in but it sparked and fried the connector “i have more” but when i looked carefully one of the connectors that you connect from motor kit to controller has an extra white wire and i just taped it down thinking it wont be an issue. But i have a feeling its because the controller and old motor wheel are not compatible. Or am i doing something wrong? Please help.
next to impossible to do it over the internet. wish i could help!
@@karmaEbikes. video?
Hello thank you for the video. I hear in your video the motor kind made a zipping noise similar to mine. I’m thinking something is wrong with it but now don’t know. Is there a way I could send you the video for help?
no need motor noises are normal. if you wan t o get rid of it you could try a Sine-wave controller. I like the noise .
Why do I need a stupid controller thing to run a dc motor can I use a 1000 Watt inverter as a controller and a switch and pump the ac voltage into an 1000 Watt hi reving ac motor that’s what I’m going to do or try to do
Good tips.
Hi,, my 3000w kit has two hall connectors coming out of the hub and only one out of the controller, any thoughts? Thank you for your help....
One is a spare if the other ever fail.
I wish I saw this video I had to buy a new Hub motor for my bike and do not know none of this and also my throttle was damaged
How can I wire a 48v e bike battery pack to a chinese 1000w motor? I'm trying to swap onto a 50cc pitbike frame so I know I'm gonna have to swap the engine wires to run in reverse( or can I just use a foward reverse switch? )
if theirs no switch you can just change the faze wires to reverse the motor
Was hoping you could assist. Pretty frustrated yo say the least. I bought a controller 5 days ago and stopped giving me 5v. Then I bought another and still the same altho now my red and black wires to hall sensor showing 9v. I have absolutely no idea what is going on and can't get the bike to respond to motor. The motor works. I am pretty good with ebikes but this issue has basically put me into a breakdown. Lok
sounds like you have short to 5v or to phase. test all wires going into your motor. test each lead to ground. that being the stator. good luck i feel your pain. been there .
@@karmaEbikes. I've tested it so much I was screaming. Then I found a snapped copper coil elading into phase wire. I tried to clean it up and I'm now getting a bit of movement but I may need to buy a motor now. Ughh. Gone through two controllers this week and pretty sure the other is fine. Thanks for the reply. As for the snapped coil it was just a couple threads andbibtried to stick it all back together. I'd buy a motor tomorrow but not sure what I'm looking for. I really will keep working at this because I'm desperate to get it going for my business
My ebike is all setup, haven't rode it yet. Do hub motors need to be 'self learned" before using it? Mine already goes forward and seems to work great but idk
If your hub is spinning forward then it doesn't need to learn and can probably run without hall sensors also. The learning line is only there for when you first ever connect a new controller but I have an older hub and it needed a new controller and learning line was needed, but a newer hub I have didn't need a learning line and also works without hall wires? Haha, if only they were made by the same factory.
@@nixonsmateruby1 I learned the difference in that time. The self learning line is there to reverse the polarity of a motor (direction it's spinning) if needed. Only sine wave controllers need to learn the hub motor and so sine wave controllers will come with a self learning wire
Why when I plug in the PAS. Connector my motor begins to turn the wheel like I'm using a throttle but I'm not I don't use a throttle
your motor shouldn't spin unless the pass sensor moves. if you motor spins constantly there a problem.
@@karmaEbikes. Hi thanks for the speedy response how can I work the problem out,as I said when I plugged the PAS connector in the rear wheel will spin as if I'm pedaling but I'm not.and when I ride it the motor doesn't immediately stop when I stop pedeling it still gives power for an extra 5 seconds or so any ideas ? Do I have to change the phase wire combination.
What do you call that yellow piece connected to the blue yellow and green wires?
goes by many names. here's a link . www.amazon.ca/Connection-Electrical-Controller-Connector-Compatible/dp/B09BZG1C1R/ref=sr_1_37?crid=377WQTXQ2MWU&keywords=ebike+battery+connector&qid=1669602493&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjgwIiwicXNhIjoiMy4xOCIsInFzcCI6IjIuMjUifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=ebike+battery+connector%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-37
@@karmaEbikes. thank you so much. I might need this piece to my e-bike
I have a bike that burned the phase wire colors now idk what color belongs to each wire. How can I id the colors if I only have 3 black wires? Thanks
just use colored tape or shrink rap. when you have it setup with the controller just copy the controller phase colors .
Building my first ebike and it looks like I need the yellow connector shown @1:32 what is that called? thanks for the help
ebike phase connector. but also work well for power ect. www.amazon.ca/Electric-Controller-Connection-Insulation-Connector/dp/B093GHMTCV/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=ebike+phase+connector&qid=1620974537&sr=8-21
Look for this name on aliexpress: Controller Wire Connection Box
Nice work man,
I have sabvaton 72/200a, Can someone please show me how to add reverse feature to my e-bike ?, even though I don’t have reverse plug on my controller or the learning wires.
I bought a new motor and my positive and negative wire from hall sensor is on different side then my controller red is on the left and black is on the left on crotroller. Can this be fixed?
the easy way is to cut and solder. i like to use a small screwdriver and on the side of each pin the is a small tab keeping you from pulling the wire out of the socket. bend the tab in and pull out each pin. when out bend the tab back out before changing the order.
@@karmaEbikes. but how does that work when my controler i cant change the wire inside. And the same as the motor hub. I will be attachin the positive from the controler to the negative of the hub motor and the samenwith grnd will now go to thw positive of the controll2
Thanks bro
Brother gray build send really gold wiring expansion 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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thank you
Good day sir. I have a question my 3 phase wire is hot when you touch it even I'm using slow speed. May I know sir what is the reason why this happened to my phase wire?
hard to say. you make any changes to the ebike? like a bigger controller? has your phase angle changed? could be anything.
@@karmaEbikes. yes sir I upgrade my controller bigger wattage than my hub motor and old controller 😔
@@benchcat9711 ok what you need to do is open the motor and replace the phase wiring with a thicker gauge. or used high temp wire.
@@karmaEbikes. okay sir thank you very much I learned a lot from you and I will follow your advice thanks again more power to your channel.
I've got a new controller I've connected all the phase wires matching colour and the all senses but sounds very rough on startup
keep the phase wires matched. you need to adjust hall wires or use self learning if the controller has it.
@@karmaEbikes. ok thanks for the reply mate I will try this tomorrow just tried my old controller and that's fine so it must be something to do with the census yes it has got self-learning
Does anyone know on a ebike I got a wire that says astern what the hellbisbit
What is astern wire on my ebike mean
@@howardwheeler7788 what controller is it
My motor has 6 hal wires and my controller has 5 hal wire, all the colors match up but the white hall sensor wire is unused
White one is usually used for temp sensor ect
most of the controller now have learn capabilities, you just short the wire and presto...
yup my front hubmotor controller is set up for self learning. there's a problem with the wiring harness . to lazy to fix it
Hello is anybody home here
Controller Wire Connection Box
Oh yeah, if it is going in reverse, look out for the pedals, its like getting punched by a full grown man, ow
Ah, I've been wondering about this..'cos I have a few problems with wiring up a Sabvoton controller..
My ebike I built is a Voilamart 1500w 48v rear hub drive with a 52v20ah battery...
I wanted more power so I bought a Sabvoton 7245M controller (it's 45amp sine Wave £180) and when I've tried to wire it all up I twisted the throttle a little (whilst one hand held rear tyre off the ground) and I think the rear wheel was going round the correct way (forward) but I got hit hard on the leg by the goddamn peddled turning just in sync with the rear wheel...
It was as if it had locked the 7speed derailleur cassette thing because the peddles were spinning the same as the rear wheel...
At the time this terrified me so (didn't know how to fix the wiring) I switched back to the stock Voilamart 30amp controller but anyway I'm wondering, do I need to try changing the Yellow & Green (thicker phase(?) wires so instead of yellow to yellow (and green to green - I understand Blue Always goes to Blue) it's instead yellow to green and then the green to yellow (if you understand my babbling?)...
Any help is greatly appreciated as I'm really annoyed hat I've bought the better controller and I've been unable to use it...
The 'spinning peddles' scared / scarred me into changing back to the old 'stock' Voilamart controller...
Also on the Sabvoton controller there's 2 purple&black wires that splits off into 2x seperate purple & black wires that are labeled "low brake", are these the wires I attach to the 2 wire connections coming off of my front / rear bike brake levers? 'cos on the voila kit these stop the motors spinning when you grip/pull each of the front or rear bike brakes..
Also on my stock Voilamart controller (and my bike) there's no wires to link up to any display so I just use a phone speedo app for my speedometer.
Can't hear you