Ellie | The Last of Us
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SPOILERS FOR THE LAST OF US PART II.
“I don't think I can ever forgive you for that, but I would like to try.”
As you all probably know, I'm making only videos about movies and shows. But the story of The Last of Us has always been something that spoke really deep inside of me. And with the release of The Last of Us Part II. I really thought It would be time to try something new, and get out of my comfort zone. I can do nothing but applause every members at Naughty Dog who worked hard on this piece of art.
Thank you all for watching, It's been a while without video, but I'm back on the work and going to work really hard for you guys, as always.
Massive respect to Ash an amazing, caring friend who helped me by collecting the scenes I needed in order to create this video.
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The night before Joel died Ellie said she would like to try and forgive him, on the day he died they were going to watch a movie together and rebuild their relationship, it's heartbreaking.
Why- why would you say that? :’)
@@dannag6983 its The sad true
Yeah Bro This Hole story Made me Crying 😭😭🥺😔😣
Yeah I really wasn’t ready for that flashback, I thought their fight at the party was it but damn that hurt. Especially since throughout the game I constantly thought about how they were going to watch a movie together, just something so simple and that idea that we never know how long we have with someone. This game made me feel like I lost a loved one, then again I guess I kinda did.
Joel's last four years were spent in good company, with his brother and his daughter and others. And even though they were on rocky terms, as a parent I think Joel would have said it didn't matter.
“Forgive others not because they deserve forgiveness, but because you deserve peace.”
Thats amazing
yeah, but still abby killed joel so she should be insta dead. fuck forgivness
jp avila This is the kind of thinking that gets everyone involved killed just like the game
@@carl_consumer.of.reality exactly
@@jpavila3255 have fun losing your wife, baby, 2 fingers, and happiness.
The first game ends with a happy lie.
The second game ends with a sad truth.
Naaah bro, watching this video and now reading your comment, that is right on.
I wouldn't say the truth is sad, it means Ellie has realized she has to let Abby go to ever find peace.
I hope the 3rd game ends with a Happy Truth
fr@@Drinkingman_
The second game ends with hope
This game hurt like hell, but loved every second of it.
You know this game is very successful when people like me for example are still thinking this about even months after playing it🙂🙂🙂
@@Awesome-oh7op I played it months ago and it's still a very touchy and emotional thing for me like ik its dumb but this game effected me so much I cry here and there thinking about it its an absolutely amazing game
@@emmab.1328 uhhh Emma…
@@recordsmanukrnet ?
True, I'm still playing it again and again
When Joel says “If somehow the Lord gave me a second chance at that moment... i would do it all over again“ ... this hits me hard.
Yeah it hit me so hard... as hard as a golf club
That last scene man... so emotional
it was his way of saying he loved her :((
@@CuriousityKey Yes, for someone that Joel, that's about as close as you can get to an 'I love you'. Or, just proving that he would do anything to keep her safe, no matter the consequences.
Just try to imagine how many times Joel did that! Again and again and again with every person playing that game...)))
I'm just glad Ellie and Joel's last interactions wasn't just the torture scene. I'm glad Joel got to hear that Ellie was willing to forgive him. He was very happy to hear that.
the depiction of present Joel in this is so tragically real. He's sad because ellie doesn't speak to him, and he's so nice to her in hopes she will forgive him. makes me want to fucking cry, but at least they ended their relationship on good terms.
im glad to and it would of broken my heart otherwise
@@qqqfuzion2582 He's nice to her because he loves her. Joel would still love and treat his daughter the same, even if he knew she'd never forgive him (which I'm sure he was convinced of).
They should’ve told eachother how they felt like an “I love you” or something. It would’ve made the ending somewhat conclusive and heartfelt.
At least Joel saw tat ellie try her best to save him and i think for him tat is enuff
I'm crying like a small baby... Great work
Init it's a depressing game
What are you doing here
@@grilledcheese1648 me?
Not u i am talking about ivideos
@@grilledcheese1648 watching edit😂
I think a lot of people missed what the actual goal of the game was. It was never about killing Abby, it was about Ellie grieving Joel and getting over his death. During the whole game, Ellie thinks that she will only get that by killing Abby, but it's only at the very end, when she's about to do it that she realizes that it's not.
Yea you nailed it. The Last of Us as a whole series is ultimately Ellie's life story. If you look at everything that happens, its her full arc.
I've said for ages that most people lashing out at this game are just grieving themselves.
@@xCarnageV1sounds poetic and ironic
I think the game is also about understanding the "other side's" point of view, which is obvious in many aspects, but what I think is overlooked is how it relates to Ellie and Joel. We don't see them as enemies, but Ellie didn't agree with Joel's decision to save her. Through losing Joel and going on an exhausting journey to, in her mind, avenge him, Ellie finally realizes, as she is about to kill Abby, that she is mirroring what Joel did at the hospital. Ellie wanted her life to matter by saving people, but to Joel, Ellie mattered more than anyone else. Joel is killed, and now Ellie finds her love and the pain of losing him matters more than any amount of horror she causes and witnesses. She forgives Joel when she sees how destructive she is willing to be for him, as he was for her. Yet where Joel's bad deeds led to saving Ellie's life, the deed of killing Abby will not accomplish anything to help her. The only thing left she can get from Joel is to remember his love and to live a life he would have wanted for her.
“This path you walk, vengeance, you will find no peace, I know”
- Kratos
"Revenge is a luxury we can't afford"
Arthur Morgan-
That’s the thing about this, Ellie was going crazy while she almost killed Abby. At that moment, she knew that she was making her wounds deeper. Meanwhile people shit on this game saying it’s a game that teaches people on how to be tree huggers and holding your enemies hands singing Kumbaya.
"The cycle ends here" - Zeus/Kratos
Would be amazing to see Kratos saying this to her in her dreams and her wondering who he was not knowing Krato's past
Thats how it starts... the fever... the rage... the feeling of powerlessness - Alfred
Remember when Joel said to Ellie
"You have no idea what loss is"
Now she does
Sam asked Ellie "what is your biggest fear?"
Ellie: to be alone
Part2 : Tommy and Dina left her, Lost 2 fingers, and now she is alone
@@ASSASSIN19923 People missunderstand what she meant she meant,ending up alone as the only immune person she was scared everybody would turn apart from her.
Yep
@@TheMETALICA40 Sam didn't she is immune so saying that to him with this meaning seems weird i think
she already did tho, she had lost everyone before Joel
I named my daughter after Ellie, can’t wait to show her why
That’s awesome bro. Hope you and your daughter are well and safe❤️
OH MY GOD
that's so cute, i bet she's gonna love it
@@TimoteonSK let him be?! If he has a meaning behind naming HIS kid Ellie because of what HE experienced from the beautiful game, let him name his kid Ellie. Its really that simple
@@TimoteonSK it's not that deep bro what the actual fuck u saying
As someone with PTSD, I really liked the ending of this game. This is just my opinion, but for me - At the end Ellie was suffering with PTSD, obviously
- not sleeping, not eating, the flashbacks, the going off by herself into the woods, and the feeling she HAD to go after abby - is realistic to me. it's difficult to describe anyone without it, but PTSD can often feel like you are physically trapped with no way out of your own reality. That your whole life is closing on you. That the past is forever there, suffocating you. Obviously you relive it through flashbacks, but it's more than that.
When Ellie said she had to go after abby, it was because she felt she had to not because she wanted to - She wanted to stay with her new family, but she had to stop her brain reliving the traumatic past again and again. She had to escape the trap, and she felt the only way was to kill abby - the person who really made her feel trapped to begin with. but I think she knew, deep down, it wouldn't help her escape. but hey, desperate times, amiright?
When ellie finally confronted abby, what were her words? "I cant let you leave" She could have said anything else "I won't let you leave" or "I'm going to kill you". Those would be words from someone confident, someone making the rules. but she didn't. those words "I can't let you leave" were very specific. they're words from someone not in control - someone who feels they didnt make the decision. A soldier following orders would say "I can't let you leave" or someone feeling like they had no choice in the matter, someone trapped -
like ellie.
At the very end ellie didnt have to kill Abby. When she was on the verge of killing abby, when abby couldnt fight back and was about to drown, Ellie had basically won at that point. it didnt even matter if abby lived or died past that point, as there was nothing abby could have done to change the outcome, and ellie realized that she probably has "won". And it didn't help. There was no opening of the trap, it didnt fix anything so she let abby go and she wept. still trapped.
It wasnt until she came back, sat alone with guitar she could no longer play, and thought about joel and forgiveness that, maybe, she realized that the only way out of the trap was to forgive mistakes of the past. forgive yourself for not being able to change the past. forgive others for being human.
I dunno. maybe I'm just seeing what I want to see, see what makes sense to me. But still, I like the ending. People complain about the ending, saying ellie didn't get her revenge against abby. but they miss the fact that everything after the farmhouse - Ellie isnt going for revenge. Shes going because she feels like she has to, to try to fix herself.
ive seen ur comment before lmao
Great comment, I agree with it all.
@@thebesttheworst2277 It's a copy and paste bro
Love your words my friend ♡
Reviewer like AngryJoe should listen from someone like you to open his mind and see things that hard to be seen by normal person who dont suffered from PTSD !
As someone who also has PTSD, this comment is very accurate. PTSD is like being stuck in your own personal hell all the time. There is sometimes nothing that can alleviate the pain, the grief, and the fear. Ellie felt her only choice was to try and find some closure by completing the one thing she had been fighting so hard for ever since she lost Joel. She had been single mindedly searching, hunting, fighting, and killing for months, all in order to achieve her goal. Something that is so deeply ingrained into your psyche is difficult to just give up. Ellie truly felt that the only way she could move on (especially after tommy pressured and guilted her) was to live up to the promise she made after losing the ability to reconcile and reconnect with Joel, who has protected her for so long, and was the only one who didn't leave her side, even when she pushed him away. After all, her greatest fear was ending up alone. Joel was the one she felt most comfortable with and she was devasted that her chance to rekindle their relationship was taken away. I can't wait for TLOU3 and I truly hope Ellie will be able to get some closure and start a journey of healing and recovery. In the first game, she is a spark of joy and light in a dark world... It would be amazing if she could be just as bright again.
"im scared of ending up alone"
The feels after last of us 2 ending 😭
You dont know what loss is
Well she does know
Had me crying.
Well, with this ending now i'm really certain they'll have to make a third game. Hopefully we ONLY play with Ellie
@@MilkmanPT I doubt it, but that would be pretty awesome. at least i want to know what happened to Ellie :(
@@MilkmanPT They should leave it be
The saddest thing is when you realise the reason why Ellie couldn't finish Joel's song throughout the game is that she lost herself when she lost him
also she lost 2 fingers.
Fabrizio Mansilla xD
@@BryOfficial13 hes so funny right? i bet you are dying from laughter now
Pearl Jam did it...
@@osaobeid7828 dont blame him blame niel drunkman
A cruel game but full of love.
A sad story but full of joy.
A story of a revenge that turns out to be full of forgiveness and redemption.
Ellie says she's scared of ending up alone. That brought tears.
Can we agree that Ashley Johnson deserves a lot of awards for her portrayal of Ellie in this game? Because I would throw hands if she doesn't
That has to be one of the best performance I have ever witnessed in a video game. She was absolutely incredible!
Yes! She was amazing! She delivered every scene with perfection and emotion and it made me cry..
I think the entire cast needs an award. I went back to play some games in 2017-2018 after this, and the acting even in AAA games at that time just doesn't compare in any way or form compared to what we got in TLOU2. Patrick Fugit who played Owen also did an amazing job.
Honestly both Johnson and Bailey were phenomenal in their roles and fed off each other really well
@@traviscue2099 Well I would say that the actor for Kratos did a fantastic job. And Yuri didn't do bad either when Aunt May died in spiderman.
"I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain."
Holy fuck where is this from? It's genious
Intense wise words!
Yeah. Hate is a cover emotion for hurt. Hurt is the water beneath the surface of the ice, hurt is a vulnerable emotion and so hate exists to protect you from it.
@@LkZany James Baldwin - check out his quotes, you might find some
Oh wow, this quote hits the right notes.
Last of us 2 is gonna be one of those games that everyone hates right now but in a few years is perceived as the masterpiece it really is
Hopefully
Never because it'll be forgotten or only remembered as an example of inconsistent writing.
@@mookiedt Nah, it's the cycle of gaming history bro, or even fiction in general. The games launched and start out with a horrible rep are remembered years later as a masterpiece of storytelling. It'll for sure happen.
@@yami6186 You’re very wrong in that. That is towards games that don’t sell well. It’s not a masterpiece. No game is. The storytelling in this game wasn’t hated, it was criticized for its major flaws that hurt the story.
@@mookiedt I'm very wrong according to your subjective opinion, so let's agree to disagree. Game is still a masterpiece, even in an objective fashion.
This game just won "Best game of the year" award. Well deserved. Ignorant people won't understand how good of a game this is. It is simply a masterpiece
Why the hell people like u don't understand what others saying the story and the message is good but the way they conveyed it and handed important characters like nothing.
@@pavan_kumar556 fans are immune to critisism like this. They can't see those little failed details in the story that ruin everything. I agree with Angry Joe.
I really think that the hate about this game its about empathy and how people feel It, for me, i feel empathy for Abby in the first moment when I see his fathers body, I dont need nothing else, but seen some people comment: "I dont feel nothing" when she saw that its like: damm some people are so heartless
This game is not for everyone but that doesnt mean you are idiot if dont like it
I mean it’s completely understandable if you didn’t like the game,Naughty Dog knew the risk by doing a game like this,people didn’t expect the darkness and gore that it has but still,naughty dog assumed it and payed the price
When Ellie is telling Dina "I'll be gone in a day or two" it's the truth. She never came back from Seattle.
Shit, dude, you're right. Damn
what do you mean?
@@grogismycopilot4880 The Ellie we know is gone. She's consumed by her need for revenge. Same with the 'If i ever were to lose you, I'd probably lose myself' from Future Days. Joel dies, and Ellie loses herself
@Ame ema krema A saw someone on Twitter theorize that Dina and JJ probably went to Jackson and Ellie went there from California. Which means that the ending is likely much after California and Ellie and Dina *did* reunite they just chose to leave it out of the game. Check it out on Twitter it's a much nicer ending
Alya Nasrawi yes ellie had a happy ending because shw wasn’t wearing dina’s bracelet in CA but she was wearing it at the end
Ellie realizes in the few moments where she is about to kill Abby that she can now see Joel. Not the bloodied, beaten, dead man but actually see him. The way she used to in her memories. The way she’s longed so badly to see him. The father figure in her mind, in her memories. In the last second when Ellie decides to let Abby go, she realizes she wanted to forgive Joel. She learned she could move on.
she realised it was about forgiveness and not vengeance. for Joel and for Abby
What I have understood from the game (SPOILERS): Ellie identifies herself with a moth (shown in her diary and in her tattoo) because she "looks for the light" and Abby is a "Firefly". Without words to describe the enormous amount of symbolism. Joel is killed so soon with the intention of understanding Ellie's feelings and feeling her hatred throughout the story, which seems very original to me when it comes to empathizing with her.
Ellie just can't draw Joel and Abby's eyes in her diary. Abby has the same gameplay mechanics as Joel plus her relationship with Lev is very similar to that of Ellie and Joel.
Abby feels empty because of Joel (because she has nightmares with her father just when we started playing with her when she saves Yara and Lev dreamed of her father smiling at her and then she stopped having them, Ellie however continued to have them and they were getting worse )
that is why she saves Lev and Yara who are her enemies just like Joel was (since she could not do this with her) meaning that she wants to advance, turn the page and improve as a person by herself. When he decides not to kill Dina and Ellie does it for Lev, showing us that when you want to advance the others are a support to do it, in addition to that if he kills them, the only friend he had left would lose Lev realizing in time the gravity of the cycle of death. revenge.
The same thing happens to Joel with Ellie, he changes thanks to her since your family and friends are the ones that make you happy and therefore make the best of you, that's why he looks so different with Ellie than he was in the past, that's why he helps Abby. Because now she is happy. This shows us that there are neither good nor villains, only bad situations and therefore they are PEOPLE. Ellie decides a second time to go kill Abby ignoring Dina's pleas not to. Abby unlike Ellie when Lev told her to leave Dina and Ellie she did. So Ellie realized too late that revenge doesn't lead anywhere by being alone, however Abby doesn't.
Ellie spares Abby's life because deep down she sees Joel in her (that's why she can't actually draw their eyes in the diary she says that her gaze is very important to her) symbolizing that she forgives him. That is why he remembers him just before finishing her, in addition to the fact that he is also forgiving himself for not having forgiven him for the hospital and for having a fight the last time he spoke to him (which is seen in his diary and the flashbacks at the end). In the end Ellie understands what Joel did at the end of the first game since she lost herself after losing him as she says in the song that she does not stop singing with the guitar to remember him. Another detail is the fact that Abby carries Lev the same way as Joel carries Ellie and only sets out to fight when Ellie tries to kill him just like the Fireflies did to Ellie. It is curious that both games are about going to look for the Fireflies to "look for the light", in the first for Joel and in the second for Abby and Ellie.
Imagine not thinking this is one of the best games of our generation
Probably my favorite favorite game series.
This and Red Dead Redemption.
Yeah
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I don't have to imagine it. I hated this game. It was emotionally traumatizing, and not in a good way.
I can't walk on the path of the right, because I'm wrong
~Ellie
They said this would be a game about revenge, but in the end it was all about forgiveness. Thanks for making me cry once again at this perhaps flawed, but magnificent game.
Couldn’t agree more! This game definitely has it flaws (the pacing is sometimes god awful, and I reckon they could have moved the scenes around a bit), but god damn. I was sobbing at the end and at many points during. Amazing game!
megisbored I agree! I managed to avoid spoilers for the most part and after watching a live playthrough of the whole thing, I certainly don’t think iy was quite as excellent as tlou but still think it was a pretty impactful game (and given the immensely strong responses to it, regqrdless of whether people pretend to agree or not I think we all reacted quite similarly!) I just think they could have done the pacing so much better to make Abby’s side more sympathetic, rather than cramming 10 hours of forced gameplay onto a character everyone despised from the start! Whilst I eventually got round to kind of empathising with her after she loses all her friends, I think it was largely the endless fatigue of constantly playing as her thqt did it for me haha. And everyone was grimacing when she went back the second time. I do have some ideas on how I would have written it, but it would take too long for a yt comment and this is already a long paragraph xD
And it's a perfect explanation about revenge and consecuence too!!
Joel past wasn't a hero story (until he meet Ellie) and his death was the consecuence.
Tommy didn't let go Abby TWICE and he finished without an eye and without María.
Abby had the oportuninity to get a life with Owen but her choise was keep hunting Joel and she ended tortured and with her friends deaths.
And of course Ellie, she didn't choose to be alive but she got the chance to live a great life with Dina and her baby, she still choose revenge and ended without Dina, the baby and even her fingers.
Perfect consecuence story
I don’t know what the writer’s true intentions was (Neil said in an interview that he originally said the first game was about live and the second game hate... but now he thinks they are both about love) I personally thought that if anyone was vengeful it was Abby at the beginning. But ultimately both games were about grief (for Joel about Sarah, Abby for her father, Ellie for Joel) and then I agree that in the end it was about forgiveness. (It was also about love and suffering, and loss and hope and hopelessness etc etc. such great writing about the human condition.
@@ladymaria736 That's a pretty lame take
It felt so realistic I thought I literally lost Joel like he was a loved one in my family. It’s been 1 week since the release day that I’ve played the game and I still have it running through my mind as if I’m depressed with grief like Ellie. I haven’t ever been hit this hard emotionally deep by any game or film. The game is neither good nor bad, it’s a depiction of life. Hold your loved ones close, and always make sure they know how much you love them. This game just breaks my heart man.
I still haven't got over this game.. and don't think I ever will. I just can't process it 😔
SugarW1thC0ffee dude yes I finished the game two days ago n idk y but I still get sad whenever I see a post about Joel this game rly hit me hard too
That was Neils intention! It’s so powerful and it worked! What a game! So painful yet so beautiful
That just proves it’s a good game tbh
Im happy to see that im not alone, I thought that I was crazy XD
The contrast between beauty and brutality in this game is the strongest I've seen,not only in a game, but in any piece of MEDIA. One way to describe this masterpiece? LIFE CHANGING.
I so love Ellie that I'm naming my incoming daughter after her. ❤️
that's so cool! I hope your baby is happy and healthy :)
that’s so cool
All the best
I don’t care what other people say.. This game is MASTERPIECE
Only playing as Abby sucks
@@saberpatel6454 It doesn't. Flame thrower was awesome ahahah
True shit bro
fuckin true
I love u man
"If I ever were to lose you
I'd surely lose myself"
is pretty god damn fitting.
The largest foreshadowing in the game
Henry and Sam reference
If we've ever were to lose you wel probably lose this game
Every last one of them
I told that to my girl and i got laid… :D
Arthur and Joel... gaming's finest protagonists
best game i’ve ever played; its hard to play other games now after you play. a game like this.
the storyline, gameplay is probably the best in history
@Campfire - Music That section with Ellie going through the scars with the boat was thr most surreal experience I've had in a game. It felt so real, to the point where I didn't even think it was a game. I never got so immersed into something that way. I could barely comprehend that feeling. Idk how to describe it, I never felt that way, it's like I was there, in that world, I was Ellie killing all those Scars. Idk if this makes any sense but my first playthrough of this game was thr most surreal and intense gaming experience I've had. Not even Rdr2 fave me that, as much as I love it.
This story is so much more than hatred and revenge. To me is hate, love, vengeance, forgiveness, guilt, empathy, redemption and obsession. This game is so much more important than some people think, it speaks to you the player and confronts you with yourself, what would YOU do? Will you let all of this consume you or will you let go? This game spoke to me in a way no other game has and for that it has been one of the best games I've ever played. Is it perfect? No, no game is, not even the first one but it achieved something truly incredible.
I feel like for this statement to be completely true, they would have to allow us to make our own choices... But I understand where you're coming from
@@TheBlazeMiner you can make your own choices *IRL* and that's already enough.
@@emanuelneagu14 I mean you're correct but... I can't explain how I feel about it.
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The ending is so poetic. Ellie spared Abby, not because she decided revenge was wrong, rather she realized that her hatred for Abby came from a very different place. Ellie hates Abby for ruining her chance to forgive Joel for what he had done. She, like Abby, had tortured Joel in one way or another by pushing him out of her life for what he had done and this haunted Ellie. Ellie never had time to forgive Joel and accept his actions. Ellie viewed killing Abby as a sort of penance that would absolve herself of her own sins against Joel which she had projected onto Abby to remove herself from the guilt. In the end, as she had Abby fighting for her last breaths, she reflects on who Joel really was. She remembers the man that became her family and the good in Joel. She reflects on the night before his death when she made the first step towards forgiveness and acceptance before that came to a sudden halt with his death. She realizes that killing Abby changes nothing and finally reaches deep enough to remove some blame from Abby and place it upon herself. People are confused when they think she forgave Abby because she didn’t in that moment. Ellie forgave herself and Joel. She finally came to terms with Joel’s decision and the fallout that occurred after it. This is clear when she returns to the farm and plays his guitar for the last time. She plays the song Joel played for her when he introduced the guitar to her. “If I ever were to lose you, I’d surely lose myself.” This line reflects both Ellie and Joel’s feelings about their relationship with each other. Joel would’ve lost himself if he left Ellie in the hospital and Ellie lost herself after he died. Ellie restored herself by sparing Abby and maintaining an ounce of the humanity that is so prevalent in Ellie during the LOU1. Every time she strings the guitar I thought of Joel and that special moment we get in the first half of the game. When she plays it for the last time, the song represents the very essence of who she is but this last time it is broken due to the loss of her fingers but also a loss of something much more. The music is symbolizing the restoration of Ellie and her and Joel’s bond but also this new brokenness reveals a missing part of the herself that will always be gone now that she has accepted that Joel is gone. The loss of this important part of her life can be heard through the broken plucks of the guitar strings which sound so tragic after hearing that beautiful rhythm throughout the game. It is such a tragic and beautiful message of coming to terms with loss and finding forgiveness within. It’s a shame that people do not understand the ending and simply confine it to “revenge is bad.” It is so much more than revenge and hatred. It’s about love and forgiveness. Personally, I think Joel would be proud that Ellie found herself through forgiveness rather than following through with revenge. He sacrificed humanity since he believed they had no cure for their inhumanity. Joel found the missing humanity in Ellie, and she proved him right in the end. Lastly, after Ellie strums the last few notes of Future Days, she leaves behind the guitar which symbolizes her new found ability to move forward with her life and assumably returns to Dina in Jackson. This game is a masterpiece.
Beautiful comment ! This game is horrible and beautiful at the same time. It's a true piece of art. Even better than the first one in my opinion.
You describe perfectly what I think about the ending and what it symbolize. In the end she finally forgive herself and accept that Joel is gone...
But for me she didn't go back to Jackson. For me, seeing her, leaves that way, letting everything behind her, is like a new beginning for her. She'll find a goal, something to fight for. Like Joel says in the end of the first one "No matter what happens, you keep finding something to fight for".
I love this game so much, for what he brought to me and hate it at the same time cause it hits right in the feels.
I never felt such emotions in any piece of media. I can't get over this game, I finished it 3 times and I'm going into my fourth run when the update comes out.
Knowing that if there a Part 3 we'll probably won't see Joël again, hurt pretty well
Surely the best experience of my entire life.
This game doesn't deserve all the hate it get (thankfully, it's a minority). I think people are upset because this game isn't like any other games or movies/series. It make things different. And Neil knew that, but they did it anyway because it was the story THEY wanted to tell and not the fans wanted. And I respect that.
Huge thanks to Neil Druckman and his team for what they achieved. Hope they'll win GOTY they hugely deserve it.
Looking forward for a Part 3 some day 🙏 I'm ready to wait another 7 years for another Masterpiece ♥️ I'm sure.
And this edit is a true work of art which really pays homage to this magnificent game and his characters.
Best edit I've seen
better comment than majority gaming editor's, i just want to congrats you.
Im not crying you are 😭😭😭
Yo, reading this made me cry. Excellent take. Thank you.
You said exactly what I was thinking but I don't have your writing skill and neither the willingness to write a comment this long. Your comment couldn't be more perfect and complete...congrats my friend!
I will carry this story inside my heart forever.
Same
This is what we needed more of. Someone who sees the vision that they were going for, and while not fully agreeing with it, understanding and being open minded about it instead of taking the world by storm. Joel as a character breaks my heart. His own daughter ripped from his life too soon and 20 years later another young girl enters his life. Eventually she grows to be just like a daughter to him and while he may have doomed the whole world for her, he would do it all over again. Out of love for Ellie like a father and wanting to live out his life with her. Ellie wants to forgive him. She wants to try so hard to forgive him for what he did. Letting Abby go is that forgiveness. Abby had nothing to do with Joel's choice. She was just a side character in Joel's quest for what he wanted. While it is sad that Abby took him from Ellie. She understands that it is the consequences of Joel's actions. Why should Abby die for something that she would have done herself? Not to mention that it just would have led to someone Abby loved coming back for Ellie and history repeating itself. She wasn't willing to put Dina and JJ through that fear and stress again
Tyler Tech beautifully written. Someone sees it how I do. While I’m still very mixed about the ending (take into note I literally had the game arrive in the mail at 12 - midday - on release day, and had it installed by 3pm ready to play, and then finished the game 2 days later at around 1pm so it was like a week ago now) and I’m still thinking about how I feel of it now, that’s definitely the idea I see they went for. Thank you for being one of the few people to not let hate or whatever blind the whole point of the story for you
This game although it had its flaws and parts that really annoyed me was beautiful. I didn’t realize until the end that Abby and Lev was repeating Joel and Ellie, it was that realization that redeemed the game for me, i think this game lives up to the original and I wish more people would give it a chance. If you give up after one upsetting scene you miss all the great ones sprinkled throughout
Thank you! I've seen so much hate for this game but I absolutely loved it and thought the story was beautiful
Damn,this comment is gold.I wish more people could be like this.And that is what these haters who just say "eh what a bad game" never get to understand.
As someone who’s never played the game before I’m hoping to hear some input. All I’ve seen about the series is the first hour and a half of the first game, trailers for the second, and an hour of gameplay right before we see Abby’s perspective of killing Joel. Those are the only things I’ve seen. And seeing the way she killed him made me resent her in a way I’ve never felt for a character and actually turned me away from thinking about getting the series. So basically all I’ve seen is Joel’s daughter die and then hearing about the fireflies, then the next game getting slammed over the head with a golf club. It physically hurts to watch. Am I supposed to feel this way or am I missing something or should I just give it a shot? I honestly don’t know. Seeing Joel die like that I just can’t put into words how much it made me resent Abby. If I feel this way about a character I’ve barely seen, that being Joel, I’m concerned about playing all of it in fear of the why I’ll feel then. I may be over reacting but I’m just genuinely interested in what people think about that scene and if I missed something.
“But... I’d like to try.”
“I’d like that.”
You get it. This video gets it. Two games, one story. These two characters lived full lives in their short time together and came to mean the world to each other, to be the world for each other. The loss of a child, the loss of a parent, being consumed by rage, and wrestling with what it means to forgive the sins of a loved one and yourself... that’s what this story is all about, and this video captures Ellie’s life beautifully.
I’m watching my 21-year-old daughter’s first play-through of Part II, and she’s devouring every aspect of the story without judgement or demand of where she thinks it should go. For me, having already finished it, a deeper layer of brilliance is revealed in watching it a second time, now that I have the full narrative and structure in my head. It makes Ellie’s actions all the more tragic knowing these characters she’s cutting down to get to Abby.
If there’s a more deserving game for all the GotY awards, then it should get them, but if this is the one, I hope the industry heaps its praise and affirms Naughty Dog’s ambitions. It would be the greatest middle finger to the haters who can’t see how beautiful it all is. Out of respect, if you’ve played the game and simply didn’t like it, then that’s okay, too. But the venom directed at the creators and fans is ugly, and they deserve to know how many people appreciate what they’ve made.
Amen!
Exactly. It’s a shame how many people just let go for what everyone thinks and not appreciate the work and care it was to tell this story. It’s a tragic but beautifully made story. More people should try to put another perspective on their visions.
Thank you! You said this beautifully, and I agree with my heart, because this game went straight to my heart and, for the past few days since finishing it, won't leave.
Too many fans are still lost in the darkness.
You took the words out of my mouth, and displayed them more beautifully than I ever could :)
One of the most amazing game series ever created 😭🥺
did u guys realized what a great story we lived through Ellie and Joel? All of us... amazing. A neverending masterpiece
Ellie: Everyone I have ever cared for
has either died…or left me.
Everyone
F**KING except for you!
So don’t tell me that I
would be safer with someone else…
Cause the truth is I would
just be more scared.
And in the end *Joel dies*.
Holy shit that scene is even sadder now
;(
@@aashrithmadagiri6711 Yepp.
and Dina left her
and Jesse died. and Tommy probably won't talk to her anymore. she is all alone in the end
I'm not an very emotional person, after I finished the game, I cried a bit, but after watching this video, my friend....
same.....all the feels!
@Nhung Óc Chó it supposed to be fuuny or original? It wasn't anyway
@@bohdanbits9381 This "joke" is not even close to be funny
Same first time I cried at a game
Same this game and the first one are the only games, movie, tv shows, books anything.The only things I've ever cried at.
"If some how the lord gave me a second change at that moment .
I would do it, all over again."
I’ve been playing video games since 1978 and in my opinion, TLOU is the best video game ever made.
this storyline is really painful, ellie has so much joel's characters, like not showing much of expression, calm, stoic and stubborn. the more i see ellie in the end i see joel too. poor girl.
He showed her everything and she lost Joel(like he lost Sara). Ellie at the end is in the same situation as Joel during the 20 years
@@uchiwamadara4614 I was thinking along this line. Then I realized that there could be a brighter interpretation of this: Ellie was like Joel during his 20 years when she was in Seattle revanging for him, as this was the only thing that kept her going. But at the end I hope she decided to pull out from that shell-like state and live as Joel hoped for her when she decided to free the woman who shall not be named.
Fun fact :)
At the end of the game Abby become the new Joel if you think.
Joel committed atrocities killing and robbing innocence family or worst.
Abby committed atrocities fighting a war and torturing and killing Joel.
Joel refound himself when he meet Ellie.
Abby refound herself when she meet Lev and Yara
The part where Abby bring Lev to the beach saying "I got you" ;) *Joel intensifies uh*
@@eliasbonafe9236 interesting, but ellie story ended in the last part of tlou, who knows she become more joel like, joel lost sara the way ellie lost joel and become angry at all time. i mean i dont know, not sure there will be tlou3 lol.
@@eliasbonafe9236 and i was talking about their characters tho not the story.
The most saddest and beautiful game I've ever played in my whole life.
Joel was not selfish, Joel has a fear like Ellie too, afraid of ending up alone. The most saddest part of this game, is that Ellie's biggest fear of ending up alone became true, and the part that Joel telling Ellie he would do it all over again if he had a second chance. The only thing I learned in this game, is that the hardest part of losing someone is not saying goodbye, but learning to live without them.
>The only thing I learned in this game, is that the hardest part of losing someone is not saying goodbye, but learning to live without them.
Very true
Totally HUNDRED PERCENT agree
Joel is selfish thought. The end of the first game was proof of that.
beautifully said
@@marvelousmeh2077 he didnt do it for just himself though
I’m fucking crying. Especially knowing Ellie’s story didn’t end well. In fact it’s a tragedy. Good story telling indeed. Wish other people saw it the same.
I think ppl nowadays watch too many Marvel super hero movie that making them become brain dead to understand how good TLOU2 was !
@@phatminhphan4121 TikTok brains man they are short attention span. Unfortunately
The order that the events of the story was told kinda sucked along with a lot of the new characters having no depth to them (apart from Abby, Yara, and Lev). But overall it was a very good game with an extremely powerful ending that really made me feel for Ellie. Like bro, the ending was the one thing I was thinking about for days after I finished the game. I still don't know if it did the first game justice or not but I thought it was good as a game itself.
It was also heartbreaking to see Ellie lose everything. Especially because she mentions in the first game that she is afraid of ending up alone.
@@phatminhphan4121 yea, if they don't understand the game on the first playthrough, at least give it another chance
its just a game they say, its just a game
it maybe just a game
but its the best goddamn masterpiece ever made
The is perfect. Ellie really did loose herself when she lost Joel.
Her fear was to be alone, but her obsession for revenge sealed that fate. In end, she's all alone.
Unforgiveness is the worst attitude any person can keep to themselves. No one wins when they’re unforgiving, in the end they lose everything. Even the people we hate the most, even our enemies we must forgive, or else we’ll suffer the inescapable penalty that it comes with, you could lose family, friends, etc...
Ellie by being unforgiving has lost it all, now she’s getting the worst of it, being alone. Heartbreaking.
ghrvjdev 1000 on the other side, abby did really let ellie go twice; and abby actually almost lost everything too, except her new friend lev; at least abby got a person with her at last according to what she did, so on that matter it really balancing the two worlds.
@@ghrvjdev why does that responsibility lie with Ellie but not Abby?
Prachurjya Pradip you misunderstand, you don’t get it do you, it doesn’t just lie with Ellie, it also lies with Abby too, if Abby forgave Joel we wouldn’t have been in this position in the first place, unforgiveness is bad for everyone involved, if Ellie forgave Abby none of her friends would be dead Jessie would’ve haven’t been dead also. Well how does unforgiveness lead to these events happening, “well Abby’s dad died which caused her to be unforgiving to Ellie, then she kills Joel which causes Ellie to be unforgiving to Abby which then results in her killing her friends, which causes Abby to kill Jessie, and so on. People truly miss the point of the game if they believe “Abby should be dead or vice versa” when does retaliation make anyone feel good? I tell you this, no one feels good, the only people that feel good about retaliation are weak people who will have no peace in the end, because unforgiveness whether it’s Ellie or Abby will destroy, it will not provide peace. If you believe Abby should be dead you miss the whole point of the game, that responsibility doesn’t just lie with Abby it lies with Ellie too. This game is about forgiving your enemies and letting go.
@@buraqdicaprio8862 and in the end they went to meet the remnants of the fireflies, where they'll probably make new friends and whatnot. So she got a chance
Naughty Dog in 2013: **establishes a new standard for storytelling in videogames**
Naughty Dog in 2020: *"aight imma do it again"*
@Andrew Brindley drunk? There is no new standard. The Witcher (2015) was a lot better.
@Andrew Brindley Which is like comparing Mercedes with Ferrari.
2013 new standard: *adoption and selfishness. Told and depicted masterfully.*
2020 new standard: *loss and revenge. Told poorly and depicted terribly.*
Naughty dog lost its touch.
Bloodmeat how is the story complex at all? People keep saying to others who didn’t enjoy the game that they misunderstood the story and it was complex but they never say how is it complex
Bloodmeat not that complex though imo the game was trash and wasn’t really for me but if other people enjoyed it then good for them
I'm here because I need cry some tears for Ellie every morning.
Ahh truly both games are a mastapeece
And there’s people out there who consider this game a 0/10, I honestly just can’t understand.
Don’t judge a game by its leaks
People who still haven't played it are judging it.
Because of the story. Played the first game? Now the story is. Idk a lot of parts don’t even make sense. But the ending and the massage they try to tell you is good. But it was the wrong way to show it yk
People wanted part 2 to be a fan service product, they wanted joel to die like a hero saving ellie or something like that. This people didnt even understand the first game.
RealPower the Point is, that Joel would never say is name like this. He didn’t do it in the first. Never. Not even when they meat Henry and Sam. I don’t have a problem that he died but how. He was stupid. And that was not even Joel in the Moment yk.
Now I know the pain. I'm crying for almost 10 minutes this game is a masterpiece
Gak Sebba gtfo
Game was fantastic!! This video was too
@@redboy09100 you right
Im sorry my dude, but look deeper, u say game is already a masterpiece nad think of this game could be, read other comments and videos about what went wrong, lots of people have strong arguments and u have to open mind on them. I didnt even play the game, but still fell in love with game and i feel bad for fans and naughty dog for they did with such a big potential on masterpiece game, but "they wasted it "
Same
I am not a very sensitive guy, but I confess, after zeroing this game I cried too much, this game moved me too much and totally broke me.
Best game in history ❤❤❤
Same. I loved part 2- the entire series is amazing. Ellie is one of the best heroines in media ever. Her story is so sad, brutal, and genuine. God tears again lmao
I found my people. It's great to see other people who appreciate this sequel as much as I do opposed to many of the haters who didn't even bother playing the game and only looked at the leaks.
Shut it.
@@weirdoscreation No, you shut it.
@@weirdoscreation everyone's got an opinion 🤷🏿♂, you a man behind the screen huh? But IRL you a baby😂.
Lets cry together, i dont wanna cry alone
last of us 1 and 2 are my favourite games. ive played the second game twice already, it tugs my heart everytime, its amazing. some people didnt give it a chance.
The pain in ellie’s voice when they killed joel already hurts
Ellie wanted her revenge. Turns out she saves Abby and Lev giving them a second life. This game is a masterpiece ❤
TLOU 1 : LOVE
TLOU 2 : HATRED
TLOU 3 : FORGIVENESS
Actually last of us part 2 at the end is forgiveness maybe part three should be names “aftermath”?
Part 2 is Hatred/Forgiveness. I think Part 3 would be Hope/Sacrifice.
Don’t know yet but I think Abby might try kill Eliy
TLOU 1 : MASTERPIECE
TLOU 2 : A WOKE SHIT SHOW BECAUSE COCKMAN DECIDED TO BE A MALE FEMINIST
@@AliMalik-ft2qc Don't forget Ellie is the most important person in that world rn. She is the only way to stop the zombies
Here's a lesson: Always forgive your loved ones, because we never know what can happen tomorrow...
We will never forget you Joel Miller... R.I.P ❤
“Revenge is a fool’s game” Arthur Morgan
It is...
Tell that to John on epilogue, and entire rdr1. Then to jack for Rdr3
Bab C no one cares
@@rickybrain3331 I care
Oh Daddy Morgan TT__TT
this game has literally changed my life man.. i’ve never seen such a compelling storyline. this game is and will always be my favorite game of all time.
Three years have passed since the day this game, this masterpiece, came out. I really need to say thank you, because it is thanks to this marvellous edit that I finally understood that this was the greatest game I had ever played in my life. You managed to express all the tenderness and suffering of Ellie's journey in just eight minutes. This is an extraordinary work, congratulations!
how can any fans watch this without having teary eyes.. you cant.
What an amazing game it is, what an edit it is... beatifull🌿😍
I can feel emotional and not get teary about it 🤷♂️ I dont get why people think you have to cry to be emotional
I could. But it was based on an only shock factor that ruined the whole foundation built by the first game. I mean yeah for someone it was good and Im glad they enjoyed it but... I was waiting for 7 years and man I'm disappoined.. like totally. This game could do what it did and much much more. It could kill you emotionally. I'm sad man.
@@damienbranks everybody is sad. This game is sad i know you were waiting for years for such a sad story but they cannot do the same game as first part part 1 was about LOVE, part 2 is about vengeance, hate and sadness but SAD DOESNT MEAN BAD OR TRASH. THEN rdr, outlast, game of thrones were thrashes too. But all these games and GoT have very sad but LEGENDARY stories.
@@hyperfire1134 ikr
You know a game is a masterpiece when a lot of people hate, loved and cried in a game. The people who criticizing this game should watch this video. Because this shows what the writer need us to understand.
I still enjoyed the game but they really could've done better. Halfway through the pacing was all over the place and it almost got exhausting to play everything over again as Abby. It did get better as time went on as her, just wish they choose a better way to tell the story
@@claytonfox2131 I love and defend this game where i can! But You are right. Game is exhausting. Gameplay is the Same for 30 hours even the weapon Upgrades dont change anything and i really wished they would've cut some of the parts to take more Time for introducing Mel or Manny since their deaths were seemingly also Hard for abby But i couldnt feel it. Just Owen. Even Jesse Was so.. Boring? I Guess. In the first game with Bill He also was thin But He was no Charakter emotionally attached to the Protagonists so it's alright.
I try to think About how the story would've been if they monetised the game with Abby and You play her first. Just think About the tommy Part. You dont know anything and then bumm you are in a fight with tommy and Be like 'what the fuck is tommy doing there? What Has happend?
Seems also good
Nils Braun My issue was with how the game was ordered. I think it should’ve followed a linear timeline like the first game did because the flashbacks just became disorientating after a while and having 6 hours of gameplay as Abby was exhausting
One of the reasons why this 8 minute clip is so good, there is less Abby in it
If we didn’t play as Abby this game would be way better. Didn’t really wanna play as Joel’s killer
“Think about what he did, how many people are dead because of him.”
Everything Joel did when he met Ellie was for her,Joel was a survivor, he did everything out of necessity and at times he was brutal but to protect himself and his people. Who wouldn’t save their child from dying especially since the Fireflies didn’t give Ellie a choice. The difference between Joel and Abby’s circumstances was that Joel was defending himself while Abby was straight on bloddlust for Joel
Im playing video games since 1998, never in my life I got so shocked and so emotional about a game. Thank you Naughty Dog for that masterpiece.
Was anyone else completely heartbroken when Ellie said she didn’t need him and everyone thought that was the last thing they ever said to each other... so glad that final flashback happened and showed us their true last words to each other...
Thank god this comment section isn't a minefield, amazing to see others who really enjoyed the game
A LOT of people loved the game.
I personally loved the game, I feel a lot of people seriously missed the point to the game and everyone’s interactions. Abby was seriously humbled throughout her journey. And both her and Ellie realized revenge wasn’t worth it, the cost of loss wasn’t worth it. And the end scene was perfect. I feel really bad for people that hate on this game who don’t truly understand it.
There’s a group of highly motivated, loud haters who were disappointed and upset- but I bet this game is going to age beautifully, as fans tell other fans about it and it’s legacy gets better
@@andretoth8297 yeah. ive been seeing the argument that the game is bad for ending with a simple "kiLLiNg iS bAd" lesson but honestly, if that's all that a person got from playing this amazing game, then i am truly sorry for them
Haters didn't search for this video, they searched for the videos who spites on the game
Sometimes I come back here just to cry
This game touches the very core part of my heart . What a masterpiece ❤️
Tess: Hey Joel.
Joel: Don’t start I already know what your gonna say.
Tess: Luck ran out?
Joel: Lasted Hellva lot longer then yours.
Tess: *hugs Joel*
Bruh
Awe I want a Joel and sarah conversation in heaven
Thank you
Oh well done...
Dang that's touching
Ellie’s says in the last of us part 1 that her worst fear is being alone.
At the end of part 2 she is alone due to the decisions she made and her obsession with revenge “Revenge is a fools game”- Arthur Morgan red dead redemption 2
Tell that to John marston on epilogue and entire rdr1. And jack on rdr3
Bab C yeah no one cares
I don’t think she ends up entirely alone. I think the epilogue shows how she forgave Joel, was willing to forgive Abby, and ultimately forgiving herself for not being able to give the world a fighting chance at a vaccine. I think it’s a step towards healing, redemption, and getting her little family back.
@@bluenoclues3685 i really hope that she got her little family back and live peacely, as also Abby made it.
I believe in my heart she found Dina again. Shared Trauma bonds prior in an unbreakable way(like Joel and Ellie) I she obviously went back for Dina and I doubt Dina would have blew her off after everything she has been through.
This game changed my life
This isn't just a game this is a life lesson, Forgiveness is easier then regret.
I'm a 22 year old man, never has a movie or game made me cry, but this one did it. As I saw the trailer while I installed the game, I had no idea that Joel was going to be killed, and I did not know what to think about that at first, neither did I really enjoy playing as Abby at first, but as I progressed and got to learn more of her story, I started to see things differently. I saw what she had lost, and I understood why she wanted revenge. So Joel's death did not seem so pointless as I first thought.
I think the problem people have with this game are that they don't understand the whole meaning of the story. Its not a story about revenge, but rather forgiveness. And its not the Joel-Ellie story people really wanted, and they refuse to accept anything else. I think its important to be open, kinda like life itself. Horrible and unforeseen things do happen, and you can either stand there and complain, or fight through it and be more openminded.
Now the last flashback Ellie had with Joel jamming on his porch, that is what got me. The “I don't think I can ever forgive you for that, but I would like to try.” I'm so glad this was their last conversation, Joel died knowing he still meant something for her. At this point, my eyes were all teared up, glad I was alone in my room... Looking forward to play it again when I've emotionally recovered
I’m upset with this game because, objectively, it is a huge step down in writing from the first game. Many of the characters besides Ellie and Abby are very two dimensional and not fleshed out, And the game drags on for way too long
@@rickrossstagedive3490
So why are they "two dimensional"
Most people having problems with the story tell general stuff like this but no one ever points it out
So please be more detailed
@@rickrossstagedive3490 Another guy that listens to youtubers and just repeats what these youtubers says in every comment in any tlou2 videos. SMFH
Al Hoops nope I actually finished the game and just didn’t enjoy it. And some examples of two-dimensional characters are Dina who has almost no unique qualities about her and the game provides her with no motives or defining traits that made me feel any emotional attachment to her. Jesse is another character that I think had potential but the writers failed to give him any unique qualities besides the fact that he impregnated Dina. For abbys group, I also think Mel had potential but when she decided, as a pregnant woman, to go out on the front lines, i just started laughing because it’s an illogical decision and it’s obvious the writers were just trying to portray her as brave but failed horribly. Manny is pretty much the Jesse of Abbys group where he has almost no unique qualities about him and just gets shot in the face which had no emotional impact or really an impact on the story in general since almost every character death is completely forgotten by everyone
@@rickrossstagedive3490
A good character doesnt need unique qualities. Most great characters are very human characters with logical motives and not characters with unique qualities. So what is Joel's unique quality? That he lost his daughter?
It's not about unique characters but about believeable and human characters
THIS IS THE COMMENT SECTION THE LAST OF US PART 2 DESERVES! I wish everyone that hated the game could see this video, read the comments and understand the meaning behind the story. Its honestly a great game and i don't think it deserves to be hated. I will replay this game again and I will be supporting Naughty Dog for The Last Of Us Part 3.
Heart-wearming to see not all TLoU Players are salty misleaded individuals. The developers and especially druckmann delivered a great story with deep meaning. Proud of this part of the community! The people who do see the bigger picture. I guess this makes us the last of us, lol
@@fabianodardano8533 Bringing a new meaning to the last of us. Maybe not what Naughty Dog had in mind but it's what has come about nonetheless. I'm glad I'm on the sensible side along with most other people in this comment section.
It's not company's fault if people can't understand what they are being served on the table.
the abby part was to long tho. I get the point they tried to make, but I just didn't care about her.
"The people who do see the bigger picture"
"[...] and understand the meaning behind the story"
"[...] if people can't understand what they are being served on the table"
Ffs ◔_◔
You guys think you too special and clever than the average Joe, huh?
Don't come with this "I'm evolved enough to understand" bs because you're not. You guys are just regular folk like everybody else and people understood the game j u s t f i n e .
Good concept, horrible execution. The game direction work was very good, but the writting was cheap, predictable and felt like it wasn't going nowhere. Shock moment for the shock value alone.
Abby is forgettable and shallow just like her crew. They suffered from the bad development disease.
Also empathy won't necessarily bring sympathy :)
I really love this video for The Last Of Us. It's the perfect video for Ellie's character. It reflects her personality and how she's grown throughout the series too!
The best game of 2020!
Ellie: I'm scared of ending up alone
Me: Starts crying at the ending of the last of us part 2 because she ended up alone
No not really she went back to jackson for dina
@@gabriellamneck3920 yeah, I hope so. This game is already too tragic
This is so sad
feeeyah well she didn’t she learned that in the end her friends and family are still with her even though theyre not there
i dont think she actually ended up alone tho. at the last scene, she actually had dina's bracelet on which she didnt have during santa barbara. it wasnt on her wrist and it also was not in her backpack. the theory now is that the last scene actually takes place a couple months after ellie already returned to jackson and she was just going back to the farmhouse for closure. she already made up with dina and that's why ellie has the bracelet again.
I feel like Abby and Ellie were evenly matched - not just in strength, but in pain. They both lost their father, because that’s what Joel was to Ellie let’s be real. Abby essentially did what Ellie spent the game doing - getting revenge. And the rest of her story is desperately finding a way to lessen her guilt, and in doing so she finds Lev, and finds a person she’s willing to do everything for - Like Joel did for Ellie. And Ellie, I feel, went after those people not just for herself, but because she knew that’s what Joel would do for her. And I wonder if maybe part of that was obligation - he would do it for me, so I have to see this through. And in doing so, she lost herself. And I feel like her not killing Abby at the last minute was her holding on to whatever self she had left. Ellie to me was never a ruthless killer - she was a protector. And in some ways, she might feel she failed to protect Joel. fuck, the level of survivor’s guilt she probably feels, not just for Joel but for the entire world? Joel was all she had, so it made perfect sense that she couldn’t just let it go. She needed that last fight with Abby. She needed that moment to realise that she didn’t want to live with that guilt, that pain. And yeah I may not have agreed with her or liked the way things went, but just because you don’t like an ending doesn’t mean it’s a failed story. Remember how pissed off people were at the end of the first game for what Joel had done? I feel as confused and empty as I did after playing the first game. All we had then was Joel and Ellie moving forward, and hoping they’d be fine. All we have now is Ellie moving forward, and hoping she’ll be okay. And I think I’m okay with that. I love Ellie way more than I hate Abby, so I’m okay with Ellie letting her live. I ramble, but whatever.
well said.
Preach
I'm literally crying I feel the same way
gonna have to wait 5+ years for a part 3, which is very annoying
Coeik Oh you’re so valid I still hate her!
The Last of Us is my favourite game ever. It means so much to me.
I still can't forget Elly's story line. From Indonesian.🇮🇩
I’m a 47 year old man, crying like a baby several minutes after watching the video. Editor of this video please accept this virtual Emmy nod from an immediately earned fan. Amazing, emotional work! Naughty Dog, don’t let the naysayers get ya down; this game, these games, made history. My goodness the only characters I feel so attached to in gaming as Joel and Ellie are Link and Zelda, and that took over 30 years to build. I So, so much hope there is a 3rd game. We have to see if Ellie went back to Jackson, what happened with her and Dina, how the baby grows up and whether Tommy got his life back together. Such beautiful games to look at, very immersive, I honestly can’t imagine what Naughty Dog is going to be able to do with PS5 hardware and a Last of Us environment. GG Naughty Dog, and tell Ellie hello for us, and we can’t wait to see her again. -LBz
I mean Ellie's decision makes sense
They just showed moral ambiguity for Ellie
- Mel baby was probably already died before Ellie because of she was taking heavy risk you can't blame Ellie for that
-As Joel there will be never be a cure in this universe
There are lack of resources and manpower
im 57 and same
Same fingers crossed for a 3rd game🤞🤞 or at least make another part 2 where Joel doesn't die, or at least he dies in a more ceremonius way like he injures Abby or at least kills a few of Abbys friends before getting taken out and Ellie isn't so much of a bitch to him
@@ash_has_nohitbox7540 Most probably Part 3 is gonna come cuz they named it The Last of Us Part 2, So it basically means that there are more part's so Part 3 will come🙂
@@ligxxo6455 huh never thought about it like that. I always just thought they were stuck for a name and decided on part 2 instead of 2 or the next journey or Ellie's revenge (idk I'm terrible at naming stuff :p) fingers crossed for part 3. Please naughty dog I'm begging you
To me, this story is not only about forgiveness, but also about the loss. The ones who you love are going to be... gone. They're just gone in a fucking *NORMAL* day. And, you have to deal with it no matter how much angry you are. The hardest part is letting them go and... living without them. You have to forgive them for lefting you alone and your soul deserves the peace. I know why many people hate the story. They're just angry because they don't know how to deal with the loss.
Huong PhL the first game deals with many similar themes, especially loss, but executes it much better. The majority of people aren’t angry because Joel died, they’re angry because the story is poorly written with too many dead points in the plot, and characters are two dimensional and not fleshed out
What is wrong with me, I agree with every opposite opinions about this game ...
@@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663 There is no one way to do it, neither a good or a bad one. The thing is that, after the scene of Joel's death, we feel the same rage and hatred Ellie is feeling. So the game has Ellie's perspective of the story and Abby's, but ultimately we are the third person going through this journey and experiencing the process of mourn and vengeance. We may be forced to play through certain decisions throughout the story, decisions which are not ours, are Ellie's and Abby's, however, we are challenged to go through the process of grieve through the whole game and even after it finishes, and how we decide to process this grieve, that's a decision for us to make: the how, the when and even if, we decide to let go of that anger.
@@gokublackmasteredultrainst7663 2 years ago, my dad got sick and then, people told me that he was dead in the hospital. I can't believe it. He got a illness, yes, but I've never thought it took his life. Now, I still have no idea why he was just gone like that. Like Ellie, if my dad was killed by someone else instead of a disease, I would have someone to blame. Torturing them and hope that making my depress disappear. However, that bullshit didn't work like that. Killing the killer not bringing him back. He disappeared and I can't escape the truth that I end up living without him. I can make them pay for taking him from me. However, you should know that Revenge is for me, not for him. Revenge is going to drive me mad because I have to torture her friends, kill pregnant woman and kill someone whose dad was killed by my dad. For sure, my dad wouldn't let his daughter lose her mind because of that horrible "Revenge".
@@rickrossstagedive3490 YOU said there are many deaths in an apocalypse?
My favorite games. Ellie is my favorite character in video game history
No game or movie or show for that matter ever made me feel so deeply for fictional characters. TLOU is such a powerful series
And here I am.. after more than 1 and a half months still thinking about this game.. thank you Naughty Dog for not being afraid of telling such a deep and emotional story.. just thank you.
Your not alone... It's the same for me, I can't get over it, I finished it 3 times and I'm going into my fourth run when the update comes out.
This game is a true piece of art ♥️ Best experience of my entire life. Thanks Neil and everyone at Naughty Dog 👏
Same here! Still thinking so much about the game as it would have happened in my real life. It's a masterpiece even if I have to admit that I hated the game until I finished it and understood the whole story and what Naughty Dog has done with my feelings! Sad to see that many people, same as I, judged the game before finishing it!
Same here, can't stop thinking about it
Same, i think i won’t stop thinking about it, it’s part of me now
Elysium Strife idk they really ruined the franchise and divided the fan base and the game is having trouble to sell lot of things went wrong a lot
Ellie is now one of my favourite characters ever.
after 3 years i’m still crying
I've been playing on PC all my life. I recently borrowed a PS4 from a friend. I have finished TLoU and TLoU2. Goddamn masterpieces. Thanks for the wonderful video that proves it best.
There's a bit of dialogue where Ellie is recapping to Dina about the scene in part 1 where Joel is being drowned by that Hunter and he can't get to his gun. 5:51 this is an interesting parallel to that scene, but here Ellie is the Hunter and Abby is Joel trying to get a child to safety. Damn this game is excellent.
I never realized that parallel... holy hell...
I didn't even notice. Damn!
Also in the end of abby day 3 lev saves abby from big fucking guy by shotting a arrow on him,abby then breaks the arrow and kills the guy with it
Wooooow!!!!!
People who call this game lazy just dont get it
Also you can parallel when Ellie looks at the city buildings from pickup truck (Before ambush when Alone and Forsaken plays) and when Lev looks at the city building from boat with Abby after getting a medical stuff.
Amazing one brother. Speachless
what's sad about ellie's story is that in part one she told joel that whoever she's been with has either died or left her and she's afraid of being alone. and in part 2 she slowly starts to lose everyone she knows, after joel and jesse's death and dina leaving her and ellie ending up alone towards the end of the game really was heartbreaking
Just Finished the game, i neuer Had such an Emotional Ride
people hating on this game are just too weak for trauma. this game is a masterpiece.
Why the hell people like u don't understand what others saying the story and the message is good but the way they conveyed it and handed important characters like nothing.
definitely
@@pavan_kumar556 That’s basically the story you’re talking about
@@pavan_kumar556 that's the point they handled their main characters and how they made them broken because their main ambition was to leave the player hollow, empty and broken.
@@relaxhedx7064 what you said is just a theory it's not their intention.
This video, these comments...this is the kind of response I expected from people after having played the game. It saddens me that a lot of people (people who haven't played the game yet and are hating on it, or just people who wanted this game to be a fan service and are not happy with it) have missed the point of the game. It's not just "revenge is bad". There's a deeper meaning to this game. Some of the comments made here have explained that beautifully. And I respect that. This game will forever be a masterpiece and will stay close to my heart. I will support Naughty Dog for the years to come. They don't deserve the hate they are getting right now. I don't want this game to be remembered because of the controversy, but because of a good reason. That's all.
😭 💜 couldnt have said it any better
I have played the game and I can say, it was a good story that was told poorly.
and honestly, if all a person got from the game is "kiLLiNg iS bAD", then i truly feel sorry for them
This is the best edit on Last of Us. Love the parallel where Joel saves Ellie but Ellie could not save him. Hats off Merwan.
My brother passed away from a fatal car crash back in June. We loved the first game. I just wish he was able to play the second one...
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R.I.P. bro. Stay strong! 👊
Dw bro he’s up there playing it ❤️
I felt like this game went exactly how it needed to. It didn't play like a movie or a show, it played out in such a realistic way that it made people that uncomfortable that they "hate" this game. I feel like the lack of empathy for abby is also pretty bad, if the first game was around abby and her dad and it ended with her dad dead, you'd be rooting for her in her situation, I think a lot of people dont get that. I love the first game, I love joel and ellie, but druckman even said years before this game came out, people were going to hate it, I think it was amazing. This video was great too by the way, good job dude.
People played the last of us for Joel and ellie, and it’s totally justified to feel robbed of that when Abby gets the spotlight that Joel should’ve had. Don’t get me wrong I like this game, but I think a pure Joel and ellie story would’ve been better.
@@aashrithmadagiri6711 better or more inside the majority's comfort zone? Idk if it'd be better or worse, but it'd be a more comfortable story.
@@aashrithmadagiri6711 I feel like that would be playing too safe and if u want a game to be unique it needs to step out of its comfort zone and let creators roam free and tell their own story they had the balls to do it and I respect them
@@aashrithmadagiri6711 I also want to add that, of the story was around Joel and Ellie again, it would've been repetitive and boring and people would've hated it anyway
I want Abby to come back! She'll team up with Ellie in The Last of us Part 3
Abby killed Joel in revenge for her father and then Ellie abandoned who she had left to go take everything away from Abby and succeeded. Revenge ended up destroying them both.
@Spicy Octopus cuz u never cared enough for the main characters perhaps
aplex dav Personally, it took me until the point where Abby says “I’m your people” to Lev for me to start letting go of my hatred.
@kleiner lukas I still don't like abby I still dont like her lev has better character development than abby and the game manipulates u into liking abby by having abby help kids and dogs and spare pregnant woman with the help of lev while ellie kills pregnant woman, abby reason for killing joel is that he shot her dad so she slowly tortures him in front of his brother with out even knowing why he killed her dad after after 4 years of him being dead you can want revenge but no one stays that angry for that long its theoretical especially after her saved her life
She went 2 kill abby but she failed
@@bluenoclues3685 it's a beautiful moment amongst the intensity. She doesn't hesitate and sez it with such passion.
I don't think it's important to like or forgive Abby only to realise that the she is trying to redeem herself. Which imo makes it 'right' that Ellie doesn't kill her. I don't think that means Ellie forgives her, just that Ellie was losing herself in her own hateful revenge.