The two companies have a long-standing working relationship, so it's probably not a massive shock to see them combining like this. I'm looking forward to more Labyrinth miniatures.
Oooh Mass Effect, eh? Yeah I could see them holding out for a November Release as they like to do something special for November 7. An inside reference to an organization in the story called N7 that Shepard was a part of.
They've added a little icon next to every paragraph in the rules where they have made a change, which is a nice little touch for players of 4th edition.
While they use similar mechanics, War of the Ring and Battle of the Five Armies are very different games. I personally prefer the sweeping epic of War of the Ring, but Five Armies is a much tighter game which will be over in 2 hours at the most. Usually when Beorn turns up.
Exactly. That's why I wanted Five Armies - I can see it getting played much more often. But I regularly get advised to buy War of the Ring so I was expecting someone to comment about how I should have got that instead!
Okay... the dancing Miniatures got me. I still wanted to buy the original, but it looks like waiting for a new edition might be worth it. (And I didn't found the Time until now to paint the Miniatures from the Dark Christal Boardgame.)
I have the Dark Crystal board game too. I think that one's better than Labyrinth for the team play, but they never followed up with any extra miniatures for it, which is a shame. They are both very beautiful games, and I hope they really go to town on the 40th Anniversary edition of Labyrinth.
I saw Mass Effect and had to pullover click on this 😂😂😂 yeah I'm excited about a Mass Effect game, any day of the week .........and Talisman I have on preorder from Amazon, this will be the first Talisman I own, and I was just about to buy into the previous edition, thank the Gods I waited 😅
Grindhouse is a game where you need at least four people to really get the best out of it, but its quite good fun and games last about 10 minutes. I wanted to buy the expansions but I have three of them already and it was very expensive £100.
I'm having fun with it. Definitely one to roll out at the Christmas party when there are a lot more people around the table, though. It's very expensive for what it is though. Do you feel the expansions have been worth it?
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring We use Grindhouse as a game to play if we finish too early playing what ever campaign game we are playing through at the time. Its a bit hard to answer that because; do the expansions add to the game?, yes defiantly they do and can be quite fun, but they are very expensive, and I feel for what you are getting in terms of materials they are very much over priced, but if you like the game and its going to stay in your collection, then yes I would buy them, I didn't because it seemed like a big waste of money as I have three of the expansions already (they were selling all in one pack) and not many people own this game and whoever does is probably going to own the expansions I own already, so I cant pass them on. In your situation it sounds like your as keen as I on owning this game and will play it, so I would say buy them and moan about the cost later :). Just wanted to add just in case your were not aware, with regards to the expansions you don't add them all into the core game, you add the one you want to play then when you finish the game you put the expansion back in its own box, so they don't bloat out the core game, which is good. Krampus is one of our favorites
Has the Darktide video game made any impact on the fans of GW? If not, why producing new games set on this team? Most likely they started working on this just when the game was coming out and it's to late to turn back now.
I don't really know. GW's board game was designed to onboard more people to GW products through a shelf-friendly product with a theme video gamers would know, rather than being a product for their existing audience. Not sure what Cubicle 7's plan is for the card game, but they are probably aiming more at fans of the video game, rather than trying to interest GW fans with a Darktide theme.
If you haven't seen them I recommend checking out the playthroughs on Guerilla Miniature Games. For me, I didn't see a whole lot going on. Seemed like it had only a few very similar missions and was more of a way to onboard new players to the hobby. I didn't see myself getting enough out of the game for the price point. I'm interested to see what the card game is going to be all about though.
I'd not heard of the labyrinth game before, it looks cool but a quick skim it sounds like the gameplay isn't great. I'll have to check out your old review. Hopefully they'll try to update the rules
I have it, played it a lot. It's just a basic family boardgame, nothing fancy. It's a little bit cooperative, but mostly a game of chance with a few decisions to make here and there. Good for playing with kids.
Thanks for the info on these games. Talisman is an old favorite of ours,and I was curious about something. A few folks on Facebook stated that the components, aside from the minis, are cheap low quality. Looking forward to your video about Talisman 5E, but could you say if you think the printed components leave something to be desired. Thanks. Great video as always.
It's a lovely production overall. Art is great, miniatures are good, the tokens are thick and well illustrated, and you get plenty of cones of Dunshire and some custom dice. The gold coins are plastic and they do have a bit of a tiddlywinks feel to them (although they are thicker than tiddlywinks). The board is thick and large (it folds out in six sections). The cards are beautiful, and they are full-size, but they are thin, and they have a slightly odd feel - smooth on the front, slightly rough on the reverse - and a few of mine were a bit squashed by the paper wrap. I imagine that is what people have said feels cheap.
I think a lot of people are going to feel that way. I don't know much about the video games at all as I've never played them, but I thought the game looked really interesting anyway.
Mass Effect 15 years after the fact when the franchise is essentially dead. Makes sense. Cool AH mailed you a copy of Talisman to review. Looks like a nice one. It will be interesting to see what route they follow for expansions. Not sure how good co-op Talisman would be. I got a copy of third edition Betrayal for 2 bucks at the thrift store unpunched and new. Looks like they flipped thorough the rules and saw the token sheet and went back to phone games! They also seem to have had some issues removing the sealing stickers so there's some "character" imparted on the edges of the box.
Ha. I didn't realise Mass Effect was so long ago until I looked it up. However, if all the Mass Effect fans are like my friend, this game should do pretty well. And I thought the gameplay looked really interesting. The new Talisman is very pretty. I am intrigued by what Alliances is going to bring. It's certainly interesting to see something different coming out rather than the expected City, Dungeon, and so on. That's an amazing find for Betrayal 3rd. Such a good game. It's funny it has all those tokens, but in any given game you will probably only use one or two of them.
Mass Effect could be cool, but I've already invested in the massive Rogue Angels, that was branded "a mass effect board game". So yeah, no need for another one, so pass for me. Will be interesting to see how these two compare though! Looking forward to reviews!
Never cared much for Mass Effect as a setting. Don't know if I'll bother with the game. Dark Tide is just kind of messed up and half-assed all around. One wonders what went wrong with it,especially in light of how good the Vermintide games are. I get GW wants to bury Warhammer Fantasy,but the more I mess around in that world,the more I wish it wasn't dead when I got there. I'm not a fan of Talisman so I'm not as excited about this one. I think you made a video about the game. I'll go look later and review it and see if I'll get it or not. So is this a re-release of the old game or is it a whole new game? I look forward to your review of The Undercity. I should pay more attention to print and play for more gaming goodness. I don't know why people don't just make Heroscape map hexes as "modular terrain pieces". There can't be a copy right on those,right? I know Lego could easily make them. Maybe we should talk to Zuru. They're looking for something to latch on to. Not wild about card games,but The Battle of Five Armies board game looks neat.
GW aren't burying the Old World. They brought back Warhammer Fantasy Battle and they are pushing new army boxes for it. We could well see more game systems in that world going forwards. There's no review for Talisman yet from me. I talked about it coming back, but the full review will be happening in the next few weeks or so now I have a copy. This is a brand new edition - 5th edition - with new components and revised rules. Avalon Hill have kept a lot of things the same but they are adding their own stamp too. There are companies making HeroScape tiles. At the Expo there was a company displaying tiles that were indistinguishable from the originals. I thought it was the HeroScape stand at first. It's a company called Lorescape if you want to check out their stuff.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring They brought it back after they buried it. I'd have to guess Age of Sigmar isn't doing that well. And no,being sold out of product doesn't mean it's doing well,it just means GW sucks at logistics as always. I thought you did a review of the older version. Oh well,guess I'll wait for the new one then. I looked them up and all I could find was an X account and it doesn't say much.
Yes, they blew up the Old World, but it's back now. Age of Sigmar is still going strong. It was in the top four of miniatures lines middle of last year. Dropped outside the top five towards the end of the year, possibly because of the brand new edition that is about to land as people held on to their money to get the new stuff. There's no indication it's going anywhere or Old World will step into it's slot in the core product range. And now new skaven have arrived, I think sales are going to skyrocket. Lorescape aren't in production yet. They were drumming up interest in preparation for a Kickstarter later this year. One to watch, because they are injection molding in colour, without painting, to make the tiles at a lower price point.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Then why bother bringing it back if AoS is a hit? So they're just way in the start up stage. I'm liking the injection molding but wouldn't it be cheaper to just make them one color and left the players paint them to be what they want?
AoS and Warhammer Fantasy are very different games. AoS has been a top five bestselling game system for years (for a while it was number 2 only to 40K) and sells better than Fantasy Battle did. However, I think there has been a bit of a resurgence with rank and flank recently thanks to game systems from other companies. So about three years ago (around the time AoS was the number 2/3 bestselling miniatures line) Games Workshop started working on putting the Old World back into production and the first releases have been out a little while now. It's not being pushed in the same way as AoS, and AoS is just getting a big new release that will push sales right back up again. I assume once LoreScape have the system set up, the difference between producing colour or grey tiles is negligible, so they are aiming for the market that wants to get things on the table and start playing. Clearly they want to be a cheap source of tiles for HeroScape which has a big crowd of people who want to play pre-painted because they aren't into painting. Even Battletech gamers are probably going to appreciate pre-coloured grass and rock tiles so they can put their painting efforts into the mechs. I'm a painter and I would definitely choose pre-coloured tiles over grey, just because I think I would go mad painting hundreds of terrain pieces. If they can balance colour and value, it should do well.
MASS EFFECT... this looks like it's only the 1st game, but still interesting. Weird they do more LABYRINTH, the game wasn't that successfull. Still nice though.
Mass Effect isn't based on any specific part of the video games. It was described as "like DLC," a sort of side-story to the main events. I don't know exactly where you are supposed to imagine it falls in the timeline. The 40th anniversary of Labyrinth is on the horizon so this is an attempt to create a more luxurious anniversary edition of the game.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring MASS EFFECT is said to be the 3rd videogame, like another mission there, but Wrex is part of the team (the big dinosaur shark-dude), which was only in 1 main quest possible, if I remember right. But that's splitting hairs now. 😅 LABYRINTH, I think they should do an animated show, more mangas/comics, same with DARK CRYSTAL, but a boardgame for it's 40th will suffice, I guess. 😏
My friends have confirmed the rep did indeed say you can see it as like DLC for the third game. The website description is "The year is 2186. On the remote world Hagalaz, a research cruiser from the terrorist organisation Cerberus has crashed directly in the path of a deadly storm. With little time before the storm hits, Shepard must lead their squad through the cruiser to uncover its sinister secrets and keep them out of the hands of the enemy. However, the ship holds more dangers than just its former crew…" I am sure it all means a lot more to you than it does to me!
The Labyrinth miniatures look absolutely gorgeous!
Oh, and nice that you're regularly receiving review copies now!👍
The Labyrinth miniatures are really cool. I wish the game was better, but I will happily buy anything to get Labyrinth miniatures.
Very interested in the labyrinth miniatures. I wonder what other old properties will emerge from the merger 🤔
The two companies have a long-standing working relationship, so it's probably not a massive shock to see them combining like this. I'm looking forward to more Labyrinth miniatures.
Oooh Mass Effect, eh? Yeah I could see them holding out for a November Release as they like to do something special for November 7. An inside reference to an organization in the story called N7 that Shepard was a part of.
The rep did mention N7, but I didn't know what it meant.
Oooo I neeed the labyrinth game! again ha
I need to finish painting all the pieces I already have!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring mate I have the biggest pile of shame anyone can imagine 🤦🏼♂️
The new rules for Talisman sound interesting. It sounds like it could make a worthwhile read. Although I'm not sure I can justify the purchase though…
They've added a little icon next to every paragraph in the rules where they have made a change, which is a nice little touch for players of 4th edition.
I need to do another convention. Lots of fun. Talisman looks good. Wonder if those miniatures are heroquest scale 😬
I invite you to check out my Instagram (link in video description). I may have predicted this line of pondering...
While they use similar mechanics, War of the Ring and Battle of the Five Armies are very different games. I personally prefer the sweeping epic of War of the Ring, but Five Armies is a much tighter game which will be over in 2 hours at the most. Usually when Beorn turns up.
Exactly. That's why I wanted Five Armies - I can see it getting played much more often. But I regularly get advised to buy War of the Ring so I was expecting someone to comment about how I should have got that instead!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring No, I got you, man. You can always count on me for an honest assessment.
Okay... the dancing Miniatures got me. I still wanted to buy the original, but it looks like waiting for a new edition might be worth it. (And I didn't found the Time until now to paint the Miniatures from the Dark Christal Boardgame.)
I have the Dark Crystal board game too. I think that one's better than Labyrinth for the team play, but they never followed up with any extra miniatures for it, which is a shame. They are both very beautiful games, and I hope they really go to town on the 40th Anniversary edition of Labyrinth.
I saw Mass Effect and had to pullover click on this 😂😂😂 yeah I'm excited about a Mass Effect game, any day of the week .........and Talisman I have on preorder from Amazon, this will be the first Talisman I own, and I was just about to buy into the previous edition, thank the Gods I waited 😅
Lucky you waited on Talisman. This new edition looks really nice. The miniatures are a significant improvement.
Great content, thanks!
Thank you for watching.
Great vid.
Thank you.
Yep, I would be all over a range of Labyrinth minis
I have all the ones they have made so far, with the goblins obviously being my favourite, but I will buy as many as they want to make.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring We don't have the Fireys. Having the models made playing the Labyrinth rpg a lot easier.
Grindhouse is a game where you need at least four people to really get the best out of it, but its quite good fun and games last about 10 minutes. I wanted to buy the expansions but I have three of them already and it was very expensive £100.
I'm having fun with it. Definitely one to roll out at the Christmas party when there are a lot more people around the table, though. It's very expensive for what it is though. Do you feel the expansions have been worth it?
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring We use Grindhouse as a game to play if we finish too early playing what ever campaign game we are playing through at the time.
Its a bit hard to answer that because; do the expansions add to the game?, yes defiantly they do and can be quite fun, but they are very expensive, and I feel for what you are getting in terms of materials they are very much over priced, but if you like the game and its going to stay in your collection, then yes I would buy them, I didn't because it seemed like a big waste of money as I have three of the expansions already (they were selling all in one pack) and not many people own this game and whoever does is probably going to own the expansions I own already, so I cant pass them on.
In your situation it sounds like your as keen as I on owning this game and will play it, so I would say buy them and moan about the cost later :).
Just wanted to add just in case your were not aware, with regards to the expansions you don't add them all into the core game, you add the one you want to play then when you finish the game you put the expansion back in its own box, so they don't bloat out the core game, which is good.
Krampus is one of our favorites
Has the Darktide video game made any impact on the fans of GW? If not, why producing new games set on this team? Most likely they started working on this just when the game was coming out and it's to late to turn back now.
I don't really know. GW's board game was designed to onboard more people to GW products through a shelf-friendly product with a theme video gamers would know, rather than being a product for their existing audience.
Not sure what Cubicle 7's plan is for the card game, but they are probably aiming more at fans of the video game, rather than trying to interest GW fans with a Darktide theme.
Darktide seems to be Kill Team I can play by myself. I'm in. 😀
If you haven't seen them I recommend checking out the playthroughs on Guerilla Miniature Games. For me, I didn't see a whole lot going on. Seemed like it had only a few very similar missions and was more of a way to onboard new players to the hobby. I didn't see myself getting enough out of the game for the price point. I'm interested to see what the card game is going to be all about though.
I'd not heard of the labyrinth game before, it looks cool but a quick skim it sounds like the gameplay isn't great. I'll have to check out your old review. Hopefully they'll try to update the rules
I have it, played it a lot. It's just a basic family boardgame, nothing fancy. It's a little bit cooperative, but mostly a game of chance with a few decisions to make here and there. Good for playing with kids.
It's a sort of co-op Talisman, funnily enough. I have softened towards it somewhat over the years, but I wouldn't call it a good game.
Thanks for the info on these games. Talisman is an old favorite of ours,and I was curious about something. A few folks on Facebook stated that the components, aside from the minis, are cheap low quality. Looking forward to your video about Talisman 5E, but could you say if you think the printed components leave something to be desired. Thanks. Great video as always.
It's a lovely production overall. Art is great, miniatures are good, the tokens are thick and well illustrated, and you get plenty of cones of Dunshire and some custom dice. The gold coins are plastic and they do have a bit of a tiddlywinks feel to them (although they are thicker than tiddlywinks). The board is thick and large (it folds out in six sections). The cards are beautiful, and they are full-size, but they are thin, and they have a slightly odd feel - smooth on the front, slightly rough on the reverse - and a few of mine were a bit squashed by the paper wrap. I imagine that is what people have said feels cheap.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Thank you so much for the reply. I'm going to order a physical copy,and this info definitely helped make the choice. Cheers.
I'm going to try to get a review put together as quickly as possible, but the schedule is full right now!
You had me at 'Mass Effect ' 😂
I think a lot of people are going to feel that way. I don't know much about the video games at all as I've never played them, but I thought the game looked really interesting anyway.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring highly recommend them if you like good story telling and characters 😊
Mass Effect 15 years after the fact when the franchise is essentially dead. Makes sense.
Cool AH mailed you a copy of Talisman to review. Looks like a nice one. It will be interesting to see what route they follow for expansions. Not sure how good co-op Talisman would be.
I got a copy of third edition Betrayal for 2 bucks at the thrift store unpunched and new. Looks like they flipped thorough the rules and saw the token sheet and went back to phone games! They also seem to have had some issues removing the sealing stickers so there's some "character" imparted on the edges of the box.
Ha. I didn't realise Mass Effect was so long ago until I looked it up. However, if all the Mass Effect fans are like my friend, this game should do pretty well. And I thought the gameplay looked really interesting.
The new Talisman is very pretty. I am intrigued by what Alliances is going to bring. It's certainly interesting to see something different coming out rather than the expected City, Dungeon, and so on.
That's an amazing find for Betrayal 3rd. Such a good game. It's funny it has all those tokens, but in any given game you will probably only use one or two of them.
Lord Toad gwah ha ha ha
No toad miniature in this edition. That's a shame.
Mass Effect could be cool, but I've already invested in the massive Rogue Angels, that was branded "a mass effect board game". So yeah, no need for another one, so pass for me.
Will be interesting to see how these two compare though! Looking forward to reviews!
It looks like there are some similarities between the two, but hopefully enough differences for them both to have their place in the market.
I'm really on the fence for Talisman... I'm already buying every Heroquest release. Talisman plus a million expansions is a bit too much.
There's only so much shelf space and time for games. Sometimes you have to let something go.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yes that is indeed so...
Never cared much for Mass Effect as a setting. Don't know if I'll bother with the game.
Dark Tide is just kind of messed up and half-assed all around. One wonders what went wrong with it,especially in light of how good the Vermintide games are. I get GW wants to bury Warhammer Fantasy,but the more I mess around in that world,the more I wish it wasn't dead when I got there.
I'm not a fan of Talisman so I'm not as excited about this one. I think you made a video about the game. I'll go look later and review it and see if I'll get it or not.
So is this a re-release of the old game or is it a whole new game?
I look forward to your review of The Undercity.
I should pay more attention to print and play for more gaming goodness.
I don't know why people don't just make Heroscape map hexes as "modular terrain pieces". There can't be a copy right on those,right? I know Lego could easily make them. Maybe we should talk to Zuru. They're looking for something to latch on to.
Not wild about card games,but The Battle of Five Armies board game looks neat.
GW aren't burying the Old World. They brought back Warhammer Fantasy Battle and they are pushing new army boxes for it. We could well see more game systems in that world going forwards.
There's no review for Talisman yet from me. I talked about it coming back, but the full review will be happening in the next few weeks or so now I have a copy. This is a brand new edition - 5th edition - with new components and revised rules. Avalon Hill have kept a lot of things the same but they are adding their own stamp too.
There are companies making HeroScape tiles. At the Expo there was a company displaying tiles that were indistinguishable from the originals. I thought it was the HeroScape stand at first. It's a company called Lorescape if you want to check out their stuff.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring They brought it back after they buried it. I'd have to guess Age of Sigmar isn't doing that well. And no,being sold out of product doesn't mean it's doing well,it just means GW sucks at logistics as always.
I thought you did a review of the older version. Oh well,guess I'll wait for the new one then.
I looked them up and all I could find was an X account and it doesn't say much.
Yes, they blew up the Old World, but it's back now. Age of Sigmar is still going strong. It was in the top four of miniatures lines middle of last year. Dropped outside the top five towards the end of the year, possibly because of the brand new edition that is about to land as people held on to their money to get the new stuff. There's no indication it's going anywhere or Old World will step into it's slot in the core product range. And now new skaven have arrived, I think sales are going to skyrocket.
Lorescape aren't in production yet. They were drumming up interest in preparation for a Kickstarter later this year. One to watch, because they are injection molding in colour, without painting, to make the tiles at a lower price point.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Then why bother bringing it back if AoS is a hit?
So they're just way in the start up stage. I'm liking the injection molding but wouldn't it be cheaper to just make them one color and left the players paint them to be what they want?
AoS and Warhammer Fantasy are very different games. AoS has been a top five bestselling game system for years (for a while it was number 2 only to 40K) and sells better than Fantasy Battle did. However, I think there has been a bit of a resurgence with rank and flank recently thanks to game systems from other companies. So about three years ago (around the time AoS was the number 2/3 bestselling miniatures line) Games Workshop started working on putting the Old World back into production and the first releases have been out a little while now. It's not being pushed in the same way as AoS, and AoS is just getting a big new release that will push sales right back up again.
I assume once LoreScape have the system set up, the difference between producing colour or grey tiles is negligible, so they are aiming for the market that wants to get things on the table and start playing. Clearly they want to be a cheap source of tiles for HeroScape which has a big crowd of people who want to play pre-painted because they aren't into painting. Even Battletech gamers are probably going to appreciate pre-coloured grass and rock tiles so they can put their painting efforts into the mechs. I'm a painter and I would definitely choose pre-coloured tiles over grey, just because I think I would go mad painting hundreds of terrain pieces. If they can balance colour and value, it should do well.
MASS EFFECT... this looks like it's only the 1st game, but still interesting.
Weird they do more LABYRINTH, the game wasn't that successfull. Still nice though.
Mass Effect isn't based on any specific part of the video games. It was described as "like DLC," a sort of side-story to the main events. I don't know exactly where you are supposed to imagine it falls in the timeline.
The 40th anniversary of Labyrinth is on the horizon so this is an attempt to create a more luxurious anniversary edition of the game.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring MASS EFFECT is said to be the 3rd videogame, like another mission there, but Wrex is part of the team (the big dinosaur shark-dude), which was only in 1 main quest possible, if I remember right.
But that's splitting hairs now. 😅
LABYRINTH, I think they should do an animated show, more mangas/comics, same with DARK CRYSTAL, but a boardgame for it's 40th will suffice, I guess. 😏
My friends have confirmed the rep did indeed say you can see it as like DLC for the third game. The website description is "The year is 2186. On the remote world Hagalaz, a research cruiser from the terrorist organisation Cerberus has crashed directly in the path of a deadly storm. With little time before the storm hits, Shepard must lead their squad through the cruiser to uncover its sinister secrets and keep them out of the hands of the enemy. However, the ship holds more dangers than just its former crew…" I am sure it all means a lot more to you than it does to me!