Rover 75: Why is the ABS light on? Why is it now faster?!
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- I take my Rover to a garage to diagnose the ABS light. They also sorted a slow puncture and eyed up a welding job. On the way home, the car was much faster! EGR valve? Exhaust blockage? Regardless, an Italian Tune-up seems to have fixed it.
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In the 1980's, we used to look after a tidy Morris Minor for an old lady in the next village. She used it to run into town for her shopping once a week and that was about it. When it was MOT time, we would collect it from her house, do the test and run it back. We always took the Minor the main road way and gave it a huge boot full on the way. Smoke and muck would pour from the exhaust like a destroyer laying a smoke screen. After the test we would do the same and dear old Mrs Clarke was left to come in at her leisure to settle the account. She always said the same thing, and I quote "I don't know what you boys do to my car, but she always runs so much better after you test it!". If only she knew the truth!
Probably she'd run it over-choked all the time as it'd not get chance to get hot !
She pulled the choke out to hang her handbag on. 😁
In Canada (and probably the US, too) we call that an Italian tune-up, which is something I'm allowed to say because I'm Italian-Canadian.
edit: ok, never comment before watching through to the end. Ian also called it an Italian tune-up.
A good old "Italian Tune" works wonders!
Same with my old AX. Pre MOT always involved 5 miles only in 2nd or 3rd. Preferably as. Lose to 6500rpm as you could to clear the crap out her lungs
Can anyone explain why I enjoy these videos so much? On paper it would sound nuts. ' Middle aged man drives an old car to a garage then drives it back.' But I laughed, I felt invested in Ian and the car. It's like being wrapped in a warm blanket of niceness. Hubnut followed by Twin Cam is my Sunday highlight! Thanks Ian. Great stuff 👍
I’m a great believer in an Italian tune up especially on diesels, everyone of my cars gets it from time to time to keep things clear. Get well soon mate.
agreed
Some error codes will be reset when the test computer is connected. Will the coolers work again? You are now at an "age" that the Rover 75 suits you better than a few years ago, wisdom comes with age, have a good life Ian.
I have a 75 as my daily and I just adore the thing. Mine is a 1.8 K series I did the head gasket myself when it shat itself. I’ve spent a pretty penny on it and every time I turn the key I smile. I’m ashamed of my ignorance towards rovers when I was younger. The 75 really is a beautiful car it’s just a nice place to be.
Glad you’ve also changed your opinion on them.
Hi i had one of these for a number years a 2004 cdti . auto. The Best care i have ever owned,so comfortable on long journeys ,the auto box brilliant so smooth.always got 45+ MPG.Take the egr off and give it a good clean(it's a messy job) ,change the PSV filter this is by the injectors ,they tend to get forgotten, The 75 and ZT Owners club forum are brilliant.These cars are not hard to look after yourself.also there's Julien in Colwyn Bay he 's on the Forum he fixed my Air Con but also gave me lots of advise, also has written how to diagnose if it's working properly. I still Miss my Rover and the help of the forum, you don't seem to get this with a lot of other forums.Happy Motoring
A Rover technician told me to hit the limiter in 2nd or third for 20 seconds about once a month , it certainly cleared her out and worked ! I had my connoisseur SE from new and did 140000 in her , absolutely the best car I have ever owned , also she was beautiful in Wedgewood blue with beige leather !!
I genuinely didn't like rover 75s. Then when car hunting for a new car for a mate he pointed one out as he knew I didn't like them. I sat in it for a laugh,. the laugh was on me because instantly I was a 10 year boy again sat in my dad's xj6.
Many happy memories came back then I hunted high and low to find one of my own. It had to be deisel and an estate model to suit my needs. The one I bought was the cheapest in the country at that time but
I really loved that car and travelled to the south is France and another year toured Italy in it.
Maybe one day I'll get another, gave me great memories of my dad and for that it was priceless.
My father's last car Rover 75 Diesel. He absolutely loved it.
You are echoing the thoughts I have for my 75 Ian and I really enjoy driving it. Nice place to be, but not to be hurried. I am thinking of getting mine remapped at some point.
That is a very nice looking car. Inside and out. It also appears to be very refined and quiet. It is really nice when your expectations are way exceeded in a positive way.
Check the Aircon drain tube if you're getting a lot of condensation, they can block up and then the condensate blows back into the cabin.
You built the suspense beautifully as you drove to the garage . I even ignored my toast and tea .Will it or won’t it get its MOT
EGR are notorious for clogging up also the mass air flow sensor can fail causing low power . I loved my Rover 75 cdti and it's faults lovely refined car to drive
And that's why I love my xantia petrol 1L8 16s: slow, drinks like an Irishman if you're not gentle on the gas, turns like a boat, little to non on board storage, a few greasy leak here and there, gets real hot real quick if you are not going fast enough to feed air to the rad (fans trigger at 90 and then 100 ° !!!)... But man that comfort and that handling ! And that overall aging ! a trusty stead to ride on hours on end indeed.
My dad had a MGZT V6 where the clutch was on the way out - took it on holiday from Norfolk to Scotland, went all the way up there and nearly back. 1/4 of a mile from home he stopped to let traffic over a single file bridge and it went, I had to go and rescue him!
That is such a nice car - the more I see the interior, the more I think it’s one of the best interiors ever - lovely ambience! And I do get the film reference - it’s one of my favourite films, and the SD1 that features in it is gorgeous (albeit in need of a valet)!
Rita Queen of Speed! Well, maybe not, she's still a diesel after all :D Glad you're enjoying the 75 life, and I think you're right, when these were new I used to look down on them a bit as old man's cars, but that's because I was 19 and liked souped-up Novas and Fiestas. Now I have my Volvo (which I learned was nicknamed 'the Gubbebil' by its previous owner) and am looking at e-bikes because i'm too old and fat to pedal up the vicious hills we have in Leeds. C'est la vie...
Still so cool that you own a 75 at the moment. I always hoped you would !
Oh yes...Rita, Sue and Bob too. Great film. My mate worked for the bloke on whom Bob was based!
Nice update. Very 2CV 'building speed gradually' 😊
Ian that lovely looking Rover really suits you mate, its as much you as much as Ellie is 🙂
Me and my dad were discussing just yesterday how you really don't see these 75's nowadays.
Most have died. it's like sitting inside a grandfather clock being in one. And they really are badly put together.
@@chrishart8548 😂 Sitting inside a Grandfather Clock!! Love that comment!
@@chrishart8548 the putting stuff together badly has been adopted by Land Rover now.
Lots around on marketplace, mostly under 500 quid, but consequently very few of them seem to be without serious issues unfortunately.
There's a really nice Rover 75 CDT Connesseur SE from 2004 been abandoned in a multi storey car park near me for the past two years. Black, alloys, good bodywork, leather interior. Shame left to rot.
Quicker going to that garage than to your old unit!
:)
Great news about the 75..... :)
May the positive vibes long continue, and the cold go away very quickly.
Thanks for another great Hubnut update.
Feel better soon.
:)
Having recently changed an in-tank pump I can say that the filter does sit on the bottom of the tank no problem. The issue is when the pump is worn it doesn't have the spurtability to overcome a little breather hole, which sits about at the 1/4 tank level. It's one of the first things to do on a 75 if its a keeper. Also, change the under bonnet low-pressure pump too as this gallantly takes up the slack for the in-tank pump. Unfortunately, it wasn't designed for it and will wear prematurely as a result. Good quality ones with 2-year warranties can be found in the usual places for under £100 for the pair inc a new fuel filter canister. Well worth doing, easier than you may imagine, and well worth it for extra usable range.
With my old TD4 Freelander down on performance I found the EGR valve gunked up. I cleaned it with solvent and the difference was really noticeable. I later discovered that it is very easy to discreetly blank off the dirty air feed to to the EGR. This mod made it run better still and it didn't affect the MOT emission test.
A slightly more family friendly film reference could be " Educating Rita". Quite apt considering the hook up to the code reader 😀
Funny, my first thought was "Lovely Rita, meter maid..."
...also, Gilbert O'Sullivan's "Ooh Wakka Doo Wakka Day": "Her name is Rita, and you should see her..."
Had 2 x Rover 75's 1.8 k series
My last was 2.0 CDT (BMW N47 diesel engine) - after EGR removal, clean & by pass, she was transformed 😁
"Rita, Sue and Bob Too" was a great film with such a sad life story about the writer of it Andrea Dunbar. I still feel that the 75 is going to be a good HubNut car, comfortable and economical.
Crikey - I just read about Andrea Dunbar, you weren’t wrong!
@@edoq78 Yeah I read about that a few years ago and watched a documentary about it and her, it was gutting. A little snippet for you, the old guy on his flat balcony shouting "go on..." is the same guy who played Eli (the nearly blind bloke) on Last of the Summer Wine!
@@graemew7001 Yes that was Danny O'Dea
Another great video.
Really do have a soft spot for the 75, glad the visit to the garage wasn't scary
Loving you and your Rover. Pete 🇬🇧
The rover seems to be turning out to be quite a nice car! Hopefully the welding work doesn’t uncover any more nastiness and all will be well for the next MOT. Good times on the performance improvement👍👍. You can’t beat a free, random fix😀
I have a 75 2.0 Diesel Connoisseur auto and the way you described the performance describes mine perfectly I’m going to drive it later and boot it and see if the same thing happens with mine!!
Had a good laugh, thanks HubNut, super Garage Vlog 😎👍
My MAF was playing up on mine so I unplugged it.... runs like a dream now. 230k on an 04 plate Cdti Tourer.
I love liftback models, you have the practicality of a stationwagon without the suspicious parcelshelf-cover-thingy. If you want to move a washing machine just fold the backseat down.
I think the Rover75 is a nice looking car.It appears to me to hark back to Rovers of old with a modern touch.
Hi Ian, hope you get better soon and nice result on the Rover not needing any thing drastic, looks a nice car and nice to drive, it may not be that practical with a family and dog in tow.
But i think it deserves some Hub Nut luvve .. get well soon.
Glad Rita is better. Hope you soon feel better. Fingers crossed for her MOT
Rita, Sue and Bob too! haha, i enjoyed that film but thought Gregory's girl was better or even, here we go round the mulberry bush set in 60s stevenage classics : )
I was thinking of Coronation Street, Rita, Rovers Return etc.
@@Tmuk2 Michelle Holmes funny enough did also work behind the bar in Coronation street , Ha Ha Ha 😁😀as Tina Fowler 👍
Get Carter is a great film but even if it was bad there are some good cars in it. Train too
Get well soon, Ian!
Rover's doing well it seems.
Took a leaf out your book and bought a 207 2006 with 66k last September.......13 days mot left for £500. It since flew through that and this years tests with nothing needed. Bonus point is it was a one owner car owned by a lady
I'm in the process of getting my sills repaired on my 75.
Strangley enough they've gone in exactly the same place as yours. The front is now done and I'm getting the rear done next week.. So far it appears to be just the outer skin has failed. Its a car that's worth a little TLC, because once there gone its one less British marque left on our roads and will be a shame to see them no longer about. As for your car feeling sluggish I often use some Forte injector cleaner in mine.. After a good few miles and some inthusiastic driving it always feels much more lively 👍
I've got Goodyear Vector 4 Gen 3 (I'l get the name right eventually) all weather tyres on my Octavia. They are good, do well in reviews and a lot cheaper than Michelin Cross Climates. I think they would suit a Rover 75 nicely. Hope you are soon feeling better.
Very enjoyable channel
My bubble 200 sd used to block up if driven gently and a good blast always restored. It had a bmw Diesel engine, Honda chassis and rover styling, oh what a mix!!! I always wanted the more powerful sdi though.......
Not BMW. That was Rover's own L Series engine. A very nice one.
HubNut I must’ve liked it I kept it 9 years
That is a nice car. I have 2 holes on the bottom sill of my Jeep Grand Cherokee that you can stick your fist into and they don't look at that when we get our cars inspected here in the USA. As long as it doesn't smoke like a chimney and goes in a semi straight line and stops you are good. Good Luck with your Rita. Give a little love and she will take care of you.
I thought it was a transformation as in "educating Rita", you've got the right glasses! I remember arguing the point about how diesel and petrol engines should drive in the mid-seventies (with colleagues at whatever we were called then). I wanted the torque, they wanted the revs. I lost! With electric turbos we are slowly getting back to my preference. Stay safe and well (er).
Don't get your hopes up, Ian. It was probably a big chunk of rust falling off...
Only kidding. Always liked the look of the 75. Reminds me of a poor man's Jag.
I really am glad that you feel a bond with the 75. I have always been told that the Tourer is the one for family roadtrips. I would be inclined to agree that some hoofing and the gradual replenishing and freshening of the fuel in the tank will always make a diesel go better. For me this would be a future classic purchase so I watch with interest.
I'm shocked you sullied the 75 with that reference, but what a film!!
I'm also now looking for a 75, there are some right rotters about.
Shame about the clutch, I had a 51 plate BMW 320d, I put 100k of its 156k on the clock, never needed a new clutch, nice to see very famliar territory, not far from my home on one part of your journey
Your cruising in style now dude
Brilliant video ian, it's watching your channel that keeps my shit together. Cheers.
Thumbs up for Italian Tune ups!!!
And that film reference, oh my, what a rather pervy storyline!!! :S
Rita Sue and Bob too. Summed up the late 1980`s perfectly - Look out for the TV drama "Johnny Jarvis" - That summed up the early 1980`s
I your idea of doing regular jobs that certain cars for is really good approach for your videos.
Im sorry the vectra has gone i thought that was good solid Torquey motor.
The cables from the front ABS sensors have a habit of falling off of the clips and the cable gets chafed on the tyre. It is an easy fix as long as the sensor has not frozen inside the caliper? I managed to replace them with ease, a very simple fix. I have had two estates, both diesel Connoisseur SEs that I had chipped and they were monsters once done. The first one I got rid of when I had issues with the starter and with my mental health issues at the time I needed an easy life. The second one was an auto and it was fantastic to drive and hugely practical. This one needed a replacement windscreen and then started leaking. I couldn't find the source, even had the windscreen replaced again. It was not convenient expecting the passenger to sit with their feet in a puddle so I have now got an Accord SE Exec, which is lovely. However in some ways the Rover was so advanced with its lamp failure warnings etc, replacing the headlamp bulbs was a pain and they went too often. Great cars really, such a shame they went to the wall.
Rita love it, all the years people laughed at naming my Rover 620 Ruth , very fitting on both accounts 😉
As the former owner of a Passat of this vintage I can confirm it does suffer with water ingress due to the drain holes beneath the scuttle blocking up. Water then makes it way into the interior footwells and can destroy the CCM, which in some cases the cost of can write off a car. Fortunately I caught mine just in time.
Got a 05 pd130 estate in highline trim, great cars, just sorted my drain holes too
@@garethwilding2067 Should be a trouble free comfortable wafty wagon now then. If I can remember correctly the PD130 is quite easy to maintain too! I thought I was on to a winner when I changed my EGR for £40 anyway!
@@ryano8768 yes so far so good, runs well, does 55mpg on a good run and high 30s round town, can't complain
Turbo actuator freed up perhaps, or as you say the EGR cleaning would like have had an impact.
A friend had a tourer one of these a couple of years ago. It had a sunroof drain problem that soaked the front carpets and a fuel pump relay problem which meant sometimes it didn't start.
The sunroof we never fixed as it had clearly been a problem for the previous owner and they'd removed the motor completely so we couldnt open it which was a surprise when we removed the interior light 😂
They sold it a few weeks later and ironically fixed the fuel pump issue the day before they sold it by accident whilst cleaning it for sale 😆
I had a rover 820sli the driver's side front drain pipe for the sunroof drained into the driver's footwell must be a rover feature.
timprice5 I think ingress/egress of water has been a Rover/Jaguar/Land Rover for some time. Jags were notorious for rusting from the inside out,and the Freelander became well known for sunroof problems that nothing but a complete replacement could remedy, prompting owners to disable it altogether by removing the fuse and/or taping it shut.
Rita, Sue & Bob too. True life British film, hard hitting but great humour. A lot of the actors have been very successful since. Oh and Great you are enjoying the Rover.
If it feels like a Mercedes W123, you should be in sleepy, comfort heaven! As for Rita Sue and Bob too........an absolute classic British film.
Lovely Jubbly, I remember it well, I did laugh when telling the Mrs.
Keeping it above 1/4 tank means you can keep running if the in tank pump has failed, it doesn't prevent the pump failing. There is a priming valve built into the pump that is normally held closed by fuel pressure. If the pump has failed then the under bonnet pump sucking fuel from the tank will cause this valve to open, and if the fuel level is too low it sucks air in.
Rita likes you Mr HubNut!!!😊
I agree. If you find a good local garage you trust, stick with them. Same with dentists. Glad to see the Rover exceeding your expectations and looking likely to be saved
My Citroen C2 snapped a front spring and it destroyed the tyre. Two years later the other front spring snapped but this time the tyre was not damaged so I reckon it’s just luck. I think Rita is now in love with you.
Cars always go better when you care for them.
Get well soon!
I've had the ABS light come on three times over a dozen years in my Fabia mk1, each time it just needed a new sensor.
When I bought my Hyundai iLoad it would get anywhere near the rev limiter. I gave it some really good runs at high revs now it goes really well!
Diesels definitely benefit from a good blast from time to time to clear the cobwebs so to speak!!! Rita, Sue and Bob too was only filmed 10 miles from where I live.
Regarding tyres, I wouldn't go too mad & go for Michelin or something. I've found mid-range Falken tyres to be decent, offer decent levels of grip, wear resistance and handling without costing a great deal. They have a decent reputation. For a lot less than Michelin, Pirelli or Continental. Just a thought.
12:24: Introducing the Rover 75 Hubnut Sport (limited edition). Apropos of nothing, there are a couple of very nice Rover 75s that live near me; One is an MG ZT in black ( racey), the other is an estate in metallic powder blue (sigh). They are still out there and judging by the condition their owners seem rather fond of them.
Great video, Ian. Love the car in spite of the wrong wheel drive. What you need for the family is a Volvo 240/740/940 Estate. The 240 has up to 76.6 cubic feet of cargo capacity. The 740 and 940 are slightly larger inside.
So, is Miss Hubnut the Sue in that reference, Ian? Thanks for the video. We're looking forward to further adventures with the 75.
I Had a rover 75 that did exactly what you said Ian.
Spring broke and ripped into the tyre which was very scary indeed!
Just a word of warning ⚠️ a week later the other one did exactly the same but luckily I was sitting at a red light and not moving !
Fit the inexpensive tyre protectors designed for these cars to the suspension struts ( just a couple of screws and a plate) these protect in most cases a spring going through the tyre. In most cases a bust spring doesn't go anywhere near the tyre and isn't even noticed by the owner until perhaps a garage visit when it gets pointed out by the mechanic. The springs almost always go with a loud crack when moving off from rest but can occasionally go when on the move.
At my old work we had an old Ford E450 diesel cube van with a similar turbo problem. You basically had to floor it shortly after starting in order to get the turbo working, otherwise the top speed would only get to 80 km/h (45 mph)
I have a 1999 V6 auto, and its lovely!
beautiful.
First time I have heard of an
'Italian Tune up...!!' Guessing that means Driving Rita like a Yahoo..!
I will remember that next time I put the Boot to the Floor in my XR2 Turbo.
"Don't frett Baby, your just getting an Italian tune up..!"
And she will Forgive me.
Hopefully..!?
Cheers all. Kim from Oz.😎
I have had good luck with the simple egr sprays you can get from Halfords et al, obviously nowhere near as good as a proper clean but if you hate taking dirty diesels apart it's a great start and the junk that comes out of the pipe is amazing.
The improvement in power could be just down to filling with clean fuel. The injectors become clear and the ECU is happier. ( In petrol engine, there is ignition stuff for it to play with. I have no idea what it does in a diesel.)
I remember someone I know once fiddled with the diesel fuel pump in a non turbo Citroen Berlingo van as they are terribly sluggish without a turbo.
Hi Ian Rita sue and bib too absolute great film. Great video mate
My first thought was when you said it was driving better was the EGR. I had a Renault Megane a few years ago that had previously had a new turbo and various other bits changed whilst trying to find a lack of power problem. I stripped and cleaned the EGR which wasn’t shutting correctly and after it felt like a new car. Might be worth removing it and giving it a de-coke
Supposed to have hard rubber inserts in the jacking points, but they drop out. They were available on eBay quite cheaply.
Tyres wise, I'd go with a set of Khumos. They're not expensive and not crap. Perfect middle ground for s HubNut car 👍
In spite of some CZcams have a fit of "peak" about the 75 it is a decent car if serviced and maintained properly. There are a couple close to me which I see on a regular basis. One is Rita Red and looks superb I have to say.
The estate has to be the best option all round.
Copperleaf Red. A common colour. Tourer estates do have the added functionality but also fetch a ‘premium’ in value, usually selling for over a thousand pounds still.
Hi Ian great that you are feeling positive, hope it all goes your way, for the mot, maybe a 75 estate would saute you, best ot luck hope you feel better soon.
Hope you can do a video on an engine service on her. Oil & filter change + fuel & air filter may add even more omph !!! 👍
That pesky EGR valve has haunted all my diesels at mileages between 80K and 150K . Interesting video sir .
Its only a hypothesis but if the battery is disconnected some ECUs lose their "dynamic" tune (ie based on your driving style etc) and can sometimes take a few hundred miles to re-establish an optimal setting. I don't know if the Rover ECU is that advanced but its a possibility. However your guess that its a stuck EGR valve (or sluggish injector?) freeing itself up is probably the best likelihood especially if the car wasnt used a great deal up to the point you got it. I had a Jag X-Type that used to be a bit sluggish then would be OK for a while, turned out it was an engine sensor with a loose connection.
On some cars, notably 92 and up Fords in North America, have a specifies relearning procedure to get the car running properly after the battery is reconnected. Start and allow the car to run for 5 minutes. Put the car in gear if it is an automatic gearbox. Repeat the first two with the a/c running, if applicable. It is quite amusing listening to the computer tune and calibrate.
Love that film 🤣
My ABS is down to connector under passenger seat. I use Toaf on live view when looking for issues, one time is was a wheel bearing when it ABS staying on. Clutch: when I done drive my 75 and have adjusted seat, it does feel like the clutch is going 🤣
great video, thanks ian, i find CATACLEAN really good, just let the fuel run low, add a bottle, give it a good thrashing, then it should clear it if it happens again :-) also when i had a works corsavan, it used to smoke when hooning it, so i switched to shell v-power diesel, and there was no smoke and a 4mpg improvement!
Hope it is just the sensor and not the wheel bearing as they don't have a reluctor ring. Nice to see it's growing on you.
Turbo boost valve. I had the same problem on my Peugeot 406. On mine the turbo boost valve was a vacuum tube powered affair, might be electronic on the Rover. It was an intermittent problem untill I unblocked the valve. :)