Vlog: Rover 75 goes away... (for a bit)
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- čas přidán 24. 10. 2020
- A quick Rover update as I take it to the garage for an MOT. It's staying there for the work to be carried out in the coming weeks, so don't expect any updates for a short while.
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The 75 an underestimated Gem
Glad that you're showing Rita Rover some love. These cars need saving.
theirs a chopped up rover 75 at my local fire station is such a shame looked in good nick b4 the chop
I think this is now the time to buy
@@claymaster567 1
Your mate at furious driving an expert on rover fuel pump replacement 🤓🧐
Always irritates me when I hear the "It's not worth spending the money on" argument.
Sure, you could, theoretically, spend your life buying one basket-case after another, running it for a few months and then replacing it but that, itself, incurs a cost and it also means you're constantly driving a junker.
Get yourself a car that's fundamentally half-decent, spend the money to fix any problems and you KNOW you've got yourself a nice car that isn't likely to spring any more nasty surprises on you.
Just had this exact conversation with a mate.
His daughter bought a Corsa for £200, drove it for 3 months and then found it needs a new subframe and brakes for the MOT.
"The subframe and brakes will cost as much as she paid for the car!!!"
So what?
Once they're done she'll have a nice little car.
What's the alternative? Spend another £200 on another junker, run it for another 3 months (in a potentially unsafe state) and then find yourself in the same position again?
Personally, I'm not especially keen on Rovers but I'd happily spend up to, say, a grand to get a 75 into a state where it's going to be reliable for a couple of years.
Don't care whether it's resale value reflects that investment.
All I care about is how much a couple of years of trouble-free motoring is worth to me.
Add in the fees to repeatedly transfer insurance and it's even more foolish.
Good points
Couldn’t agree more, I have disposed of two cars through the years for that reason ie being told,‘it’s not worth it’ then had to put a deposit down for something newer and finance the damn thing for years. Well never again!
Exactly, especially when the skills to repair all the faults are limited by the owner.
I was told the MOT work on a little ‘87 Polo I owned back in 2010 “wasn’t worth it” by the mechanic. It needed new strut top mounts, an exhaust and rear brake shoes. He had actually quoted, to me, a pretty reasonable price for the work and since I bizarrely loved the wee car I asked him to go ahead. His jaw nearly hit the floor. On the next MOT all it needed was a CV boot cover and it served me for another 3 years after that. Loads of cars must get unnecessarily scrapped.
You do not make dull videos! The cars might be ordinary,and you may be clueless. But that is what makes them fun to watch. Keep up the good work,hope Rita doesn't cost you too much.
Glad you're willing to spend the money on the rover definitely worth saving. My favourite car in the fleet by far.
It's so great to see her improving. So yes a lot of work took place in 2017 when I got her and part of that was 1) a new thermostat; and 2) new underbonnet fuel pump which was leaking. I hope you look at the in tank pump, I'm curious about the saddle pumps, I'm sure they're a venturi design but while I thought I'd seen it in the service manual I can find it no more. Just for the record I used to run it down until the fuel light came on so you shouldn't run out of fuel unless you actually run out of fuel...
You know you live in a rural area when you have a gulf petrol station nearby
....and when the bus you are sitting in, is completely empty in the daytime.
@@ronaldderooij1774 I there is a bus at all.
I have a Gulf/Subway station nearby and I live in the city. Never go there because I always fill up non alcoholic fuel in Germany. The busses are indeed empty because of Covid.
And it's about 20p more per litre than anywhere in town.
"fairly dreadful videos about fairly dreadful cars"
Now that's a T Shirt if I ever saw one Ian 👍👍👍👍
I need a 75 the more I view these videos the more I want a 75, it is simply a underated car.
Agreed, just been searching ebay for a local one 😂
@@ScrapYardDog64 lol same....
Now look what you've done Ian soon 75 shenanigans everywhere :) LOL
I just want another car to add to my three i have already
My grandad drives a rover 75, so it's good to see some content on it. Brilliant video!
Could this be a May to December relationship?
Taking Rita out, spend quality time together, buying her new clothes, speaking about her, with fondness, walking with a spring in your step....All the signs are there!
I'm happy for you😉.
So glad you're happy with the rover. My favourite car that I will probably never own! Looking forward to more from rita !
Best thing with the two project vehicles..............keep an eye on ferrous scrap prices to get best return 👍😀
Thanks for another trip in Lovely Rita, and I look forward to seeing her again post-MOT.
Looking forward to you sorting out the running issues! Hope Miss Hubnut & the little nuts are staying safe!
A quick and dirty test for the fuel pump could be to pull over when it's weak, leave it running and batter the underside of the fuel tank. The percussion may spring the pump into life giving you more power and a diagnosis.
Ah you are coming over to the diesel dark side, finally ;) Funny as the French make so many fine diesels.
Good luck with Rita on her M.O.T, just want to say I think you make awesome videos about the good, the bad and the ugly cars, in topical Hubnut style. Love your hands on vids, even when things go wrong which I believe nearly all of us can relate to when we tinker with cars. Keep well. Looking forward to more Hubnut
Thanks for the great informative vlog ian.
you look very comfortable in that Rover 75 and it comes across in the voice as very relaxed and enjoying the driving experience well done the rover 75
Really nice to see lovely Rita again, glad she's getting some love to make her last longer. Looking forward to seeing updates on the fuel pump and cooling fan. Although these engines do not run hot quickly, the clutched fan does seem to help during longer runs or so I've been told (also ran one of these without the fan for a while until spring came and it suddenly appeared to need one).
Good luck, Rita! Aww poor Rachel and George are no longer needed 😔 be a good boy, George
Fingers crossed for the mot. Looks like you have a good one there!
It’s good to see Rita having a pamper!!.
The Wotsit and Sarnie cars are big projects for one person with a fleet.
The Rover interior is looking splendid. Hail, Rita!!!!
I had a Rover 75 Connoisseur SE for three years and 75,000 miles, a great car.
All the standard faults, all fixed, then at 151,000 miles the injectors started packing in - too much to replace so traded the car in.
It also was a manual, really wanted an auto but couldn't refuse the 75 once I'd driven it - too nice, it engenders a more laid back style of driving.
Received my HubNut beanie this week (thank you) and will be trying it out today in my rather rusty 1980 Spitfire 1500 :)
Love the last shot.
Quite a classy car for its time. Well worth the work.
They are a lovely comfortable quiet car. I owned a wagon version for a couple of years.
Enjoyed that Ian, thanks..
I had a diesel which wasn’t running right, tried couple of different kinds of injector cleaner and what sorted it in the end was shell v power diesel.
You are doing the right thing with the Rover. You will then have a car that is dependable and comfortable to use as a daily or as backup while you get the fleet up to snuff. Lots of Luck with it.👍👍
I've just bought one of these for just a bit more than scrap money, it's an early 2.5 auto with low mileage and it drives so nicely. It's smoother than my jag was!
So pleased that she’s running much better. I’ve always had a soft spot for the 75’s lovely retro styling, right up to the point where I was bidding on a 2.5V6 a couple of years back; but I was away, sailing (working!), and was three weeks away from my spell in the UK, and the seller needed the lovely-looking baby blue metallic example ‘gone’ ASAP, once the deal concluded. Probably just as well, as I have my work cut out for me with the three beasts that I already care for.
I really need to stop loving cars...
Good Luck Rita
Wow, that was a great deal, you swapped the 75 for bus, well done 👍🏼
I think collecting Rita is very essential for you because the channel is your living 😁
I do really like this Rover, seems like a nice place to be. I am in the same position with spending, own a 2004 Volvo V50, must be nearly like a new car now, all the bits that have been replaced! The latest joy, seems to be knackered injectors, according to my mechanic!!! So that is the next thing to be replaced, it is a nice car to drive, comfortable with amazing heated seats, I have committed now with all the money spent, so have to keep going in the hope I get it to a stage, where I go for months and months without something else breaking!!
I kept wanting to turn off the interior light, but I was thinking you were using it as extra lighting. Now I'm working again, I can finally go to your store and see what I can order for Xmas :)
That rover 75 is so smooth.
Last time i went on a bus was over 30 years ago lol.
About 7/8 years ago I had one of these powered by the 2.5v6. Waftabilty was its greatest strength, even though the box (lazy sod) wss coupled to a rev happy motor. Only danger driving it anywhere of distance was staying awake. (I meant that as a compliment - I think!)
Nice cars the 75/ZT diesels. I have owned both and miss them!
Good to see your doing some TLC on the Rover and the pandemic lock down isn't too inconvenient to your ventures.
I hope you remembered to switch off the courtesy light after filming. Wouldn't want a flat batt now would we.....
No that was the cameraman hanging out the passenger door :-)
The car's parked at the MOT garage, surely they'd have the means to jump-start it ready, even if he did leave the light on?
Surely that thing is modern enough to switch it off when you lock the doors?
(which is not very Hubnut)
If i leave the light on, it switches off after 10 mins anyway, even the main lights, and put the switch to "on" not "auto", still turns them off. accidentley left these on and came back, expecting a flat battery, but wasn't.
I have disabled my light for that reason. Even though it does switch off after a few seconds. When you have had battery problems that left you stranded, you get paranoid. I would disable the central locking if I could.
I detect that HubNut is changing as Ian ages. All very natural.👍 Until lockdown ends? Nothing like a bit of hope.
Maaaayytte.... she’s lovely, gotta love a 75.
The mass airflow sensor can make a huge difference in power. Had a car that did run great, it just felt low on power. No errors in the OBD, lent a used mass air flow sensor to test ....Wow, felt like the engine had a 50% power gain. The mechanic that lend me the sensor, told that some cars are pretty sensitive about this sensor and will not even run right on a new cheap one. It has to be a high quality one with narrow tolerances in the measuring, otherwise the engine will lose power.
My point was that a faulty or dirty mass airflow sensor can generate problems without it setting any errors. In my case it was a turbo diesel, kind of hard to over fuel such. 😀
Ian i think it all comes down to basic bangernomics and the way i break it down is what is cost overall to run over the time period owned and it nearly always is a massive saving over new or newish car depreciation and you learn a few things along the way.
Its all about keeping pleasingly simple inexpensive old cars on the road and saving them from the scrappers.
Agree, though the 75 doesn't really fit the description of bangernomics. Too modern and complex...
Always likes the 75 wished we got a manual v6 here in Australia.
A very comfy car for driver and passenger , there are many seat adjustments.
Hi Ian
Great video as always
Warm regards
Richard
My 75 takes around 10 minutes to start feeling warmth through the vents. By the time I've done about 10 miles, the gauge is up to "normal" And you're right. They don't half waft with an auto box. I adore mine.
You are all good if the car reads half on The temp, they read 1/4 when stuck open and on the move , one issue with the engine on these as you say is getting to the original stat as the engines orientation is turned around from its rwd design in the BMW it was designed for , luckily when they go as they always seem to fail stuck open you can leave it in place when fitting the new one in the top hose, rather than the Renault one that fits in the hose there's a nice stainless housed one that pops in , you just chop out about an inch of the top hose to fit it it's a little pretty cey though at around £60
Wish you all the best during the forthcoming Welsh lockdown - an opportunity for tinkering methinks... Thanks also for some bus footage, although, I have to admit that I am as excited about travelling on a modern bus as you are. They all seem to sound like vacuum cleaners or washing machines these days... Give me a good throaty growl from a Leyland Leopard or Gardner semi auto noises from a Fleetline any day...
On this side of the channel in France, we're at the curfew stage - can't go out between 9 pm & 6 am. Only a matter of time, I think, before we also end up in some sort of lockdown. I think that'll be tinkering time for me too!
You can try cleaning the MAF sensor. I've done that on all my fleet and it makes a world of difference (unless the MAF just is dead of course). And as many including me have already said - replace all the little vacuum hoses. You may be surprised at the difference it makes. I certainly was!
Great to see Rita getting the attention she needs. She certainly is very pretty. What a lovely car. I have always loved engines with a torque peak way low down. To my way of thinking, the low end torque is more fun than revving the whee out of it.
VW TDI diesels are also notorious for taking a long time to warm up in winter, so beginning in the early 2000s, VW started fitting them with electric glow plugs in the heater core that activate whenever the temperature dial is set to the maximum hot position.
Not quite.. All diesels due to efficiency take longer to warm up. Most German diesels had this, and it was either electric element heaters inside the hvac box, as per most vws, or in the case of bmw engines, webasto diesel powered coolant heaters.
oh, fancy seeing you here.
Both my 2008 and 2014 Tourans were fitted with Webasto heaters. My wife’s Skoda Yeti fitted with the same 2.0 TDi has no heater as far as I can tell.
VWWestilife
Possibly the American hubnut but VW
Thermostat if needing changing are a nightmare its under the engine mount and you have to take the mount off and jack the engine up to get to the 4 bolts for it
Best companion on a bus ride is a pair of ear buds and a phone full of rocking tunes.
I had such high hopes of bus footage and you just teased me! A lockdown video in its own right perhaps? I think that the Rover is sufficient of a British automotive milestone to warrant future proofing her for a few more years. See you on the other side!🙄
I've never known anyone to say thank you in Llanon!!
Well, I am glad Rita is getting some well deserved attention to repair what is wrong with her, and hopefully she will pass the MOT. I guess this is now the time to focus which in the fleet needs the most attention, and to plan accordingly. I would definitely film, but hold off editing and uploading until said project is sufficiently completed, as none of your loyal followers like myself are going anywhere.
I was actually shocked to see a completely empty bus; where I am in the US (upstate New York), the county bus system (UCAT, Ulster County New York) has had quite a few riders during the height of the pandemic this summer, and has returned to the regular schedule.
Whatever you do we will be here, waiting patiently for your next video.
Love your channel hubnut, from this hitherto lurker.
Definitely worth fixing if it means you can travel between jobs in relative comfort, arrive fresh and produce better results 👍
Nothing worse for motivation than knowing you need to struggle somewhere to work in non ideal conditions knowing you have to struggle home.
Yes, “Low down dirty torque” would make a great sticker or shirt. It looks like you had the entire bus to yourself.
Cool Rover 😀
There's only one thing more troublesome than a new luxury car and that's an old luxury car, as I discovered with my X type Jaguar. Still it makes for good journalism Ian!
I've only recently discovered Magic Sponges, and they truly are magic aren't they. :-)
They are magic - but they do break down into micro-plastic particles that are bad for the environment, so please use them wisely.
Also, be careful to not use them dry, as they can scratch/abrade surfaces.
Taking over the store!!!!
So George will be made redundant!
Actually quite a nice relaxing and entertaining video. Well done 👏 not dreadful by any means. My compliments IAN.
Rich&2carnivrous kittys 😺 😸 LA.CALIF USA 🇺🇸
im glad you made this video before cloths become non essential items in wales
Very wise to farm out the ABS sensor replacement as these seize solid in the hub and have to be drilled out (avoiding drilling into the sensor ring on the hub of course). I have a 2.5 V6 and therefore incredibly jealous of your fuel consumption
Good social distancing on that bus!
What’s happening with the interior light? 😂
Another great video from a top bloke. 👍
You must keep the faith and keep Rita on the road
Have to admit i really do like those cream dials.
If you wanted to know what cold and diesel is like then you should have come on the Canadian cold climate tests with me. After two hours in a R600 fully kitted (us that is) with cold climate clothing we very nearly poured hot coffee into our boots because we'd lost touch with our feet an hour before getting to the cafe!
I really think you are doing the best thing by saving this car.
It annoys me when people refuse repairs that slightly exceed the value of the car when the car has useful life left in it.
I hope whoever inherits the Rover sprays gunk into the sills and various rust traps so this never happens again.
If the fuel tank pump has failed, you wont go above 3000-3500 rpm.
You need to replace both pumps as the strain on the under bonnet pump will cause it to fail. Had that happen on the way back from Dublin.
Say hello to George when your there. We have 20mph speed limit in Northumberland beside schools.
STAY SAFE
When the BBC do a celebrity special of the Repair Shop (as they sadly inevitably will) no doubt they'll have space for a CZcams star (for the yoof) take your steering wheel along to meet Susie, she's magic with leather 👍 Having said that there's a couple of other slightly bigger jobs Dom could help you with in his workshop.
Get your application in 🍻
Susie is into leather?..how about boots? 😉
Check out Texaco Supreme Diesel on line. Apparently it helps to clear away pump deposits left behind by low grade fuels.
In-tank fuel pump change should be a pretty DIY job...
Long term solution is to ALWAYS have more than 1/4 or 1/3 of fuel in tank. These pumps tend to overheat when not submerged in fuel.
Like BMW ones.
Yay eventually wheel be as good as new 😃
I had to change all that grey in the dash of mine. I’d love a black headliner. M.
Engine ,bonnet and wiring for the odset
We never had these in the States and that’s a shame!
Common ABS light issues are the cable underneath the drivers seat & front speed sensor is dirty or needs replacing.
I think you are getting confused with the srs light.
I'm glad I don't live in England as it's too cold for me, I lived there for five years and had to wear 2 jerseys and a coat in winter so no wonder your car won't heat up.
If ever having problems with the clutch and its the clutch cylinder pump go for a tazu aluminium one
How rude you interrupted me catching up with your back catalogue with this new video😂
Great video for Rita update. :)
The Matiz battery..... while it's not in Mertel, is it on a battery trickle charger/ management device?
Did they ever make an Auto 75 CDTi?
I might need to downsize from my Sedona to a 75 estate if they did!!!
Thanks for another video..... will wait for Store Update. :)
My old boss had a 75. Very wafty. It encourages a relaxed laid back style of driving and theres nothing wrong with that in a world where it seems like every other motorist thinks theyre in a Formula 1 race.....
The part about other drivers does not apply where i live. Round here you're lucky if they're doing anywhere near the speed limit.
You should do a review on a Rover 200 bubble R3 the one that Lloyd vehicle consulting done is pure hubnut a 95 214 Si
40mpg - that’s pretty impressive for a car offering the level of size and comfort the Rover does. Sounds like a keeper to me. That bus operator certainly wasn’t making any money on that run!
fingers crossed its not the high pressure fuel pump. That went on my ZT when i had it and cost me £1500, Mine started with exactly what you are describing but then got worse and would not even start.
I wouldn't call editing videos and replying to comments unproductive.
“ Very big shock news coming soon “
For 0.01 of a second I thought Hubnut had won Euro Millions or similar . God knows how many cars he’d buy then !
The tank pumps are notorious for packing up - I got through two in 100,000 miles in my Rover 75. All of the Bosch parts in it are suspect, the two-speed engine fan is the worst part and Kenlowe used to do a pattern replacement which was faultless. The injectors need good quality fuel or they will fail too.
Would expect better from bosch