The one of Billy in cowboy garb is flipped! The rifle is a Winchester, which has the loading gate on the right side, but the Winchester in Billy's hand has the loading gate on the left side which means the picture has been flipped, it is a mirror image and not a picture. Matching other pictures only works if they are also flipped.
I don't see any resemblance at all. Billy the Kid has a look about him that is unique. In the recently authenticated croquet photo, I immediately knew that was Billy the Kid.
Both this one and the croquet are not authenticated. These folks shop around and pay others to give their photo importance but they’ve all been proven false so far. Only one photo that is proven.
I've been a portrait artist for nearly 30 years & have looked at tons of bad photos to try to get a decent likeness of people, this doesn't make me a forensics expert in any way, I've just had a bit of experience looking at bad photography, I also understand that people can look slightly different in photos depending on several factors, lighting, pose, length of time between photos, etc...that being said, I'm not seeing much resemblance between the two people in these photos at all other than the pose...I think the examiner, while no doubt having extensive experience in her field, was just ready to believe this photo was of the same person & let her imagination take over...I don't think this is the same person...interesting old photo, but doesn't match in my opinion...
The pose is the same coz most tintype poses are like that. Basically a rod up the back. You can see the feet of the post behind both subjects feet. It kept them still during the long exposure time needed for tintype.
As a photographer and professional studio portrait photographer for years, i have to say you pose your subject. The pose is most likely going to be photographers choice not billys or whoever that is. If it is billy and as it says the same photographer then that makes sense for the similar pose.
The mouth is closed in the second pic so how can you match the dentition? The jaw line, eyes, brows and ear lobes are also different. Not convinced at all.
Excellent point. The teeth on the DeAragon image are not visible. The so called "forensic heavyweight" Louis Gibson is blowing smoke. Also, not that it matters but the DeAragon youth looks nothing like Billy the Kid.
Agree on all points. Let us not forget also that the photo with guns is a reversed image, giving rise to the myth that the Kid was left-handed. Look at the bullet port on the Winchester rifle: in the photo the port is on the left [ as you hold it for shooting] side of the breech. Winchester never made the rifle in that configuration; the port was always on the right side.
@@antoniograncino3506 Wrong, Winchester did make a few left handed 1871s to special order, so if this is a left handed 1871 the question is how did Billy get it?
It's all in the eyebrows. Billy had has some dark and really rocking eyebrows that stand out even on the little tin type. If you can't see the eyebrows, it's probably not him.
Well, the amazing thing about Billy is that he keeps on livin'! He never "grows old" in the public's mind and he always makes a come-back. In fact, he's the Comeback Kid!
These are interesting. There are some similarities but the ears are very different and the real Billy’s boots are smaller in size and Billy’s hands look smaller. Cool photo, I love this stuff, and I’m no expert but I don’t personally believe it’s Bonney. Especially looking at the ears, they look a lot different.
The only things that make it possible are that the ring is on the same finger and the teeth are slightly protruding. The problem for me is that Billy was always skinny and did not wear rumpled, mature clothing. This person is a little "dumpy." Billy was a slender, wiry reed of a kid, with an attitude.
Not the kid and I can prove it. The photograph on the right of the authenticated Billy the Kid tintype shows him holding the Winchester rifle in his right hand and his Colt thunderer pistol on his left hip but this is not true because the tintype was reversed which means that Billy is holding the rifle in his left hand which means that he was right handed. Therefore this means that the gamblers ring that Billy wore was technically on his left hand. If you look at the photograph at the on the left you'll see that the gamblers ring is worn on the right hand. Now one could make the claim that the photograph on the left could be a reverse tintype therefore claiming that the gamblers ring was worn on the left hand but then the buttons on the coat would be on the left side as well and male coats simply don't have buttons on the left side they have buttons on the right.
Actually, a famous fact about Billy is that he was ambidextrous. That's one of the reasons he was such a great gunslinger. He could shoot with both hands.
I noticed that too. But he was also meant to be ambidextrous. Such people have a habit over time of being predominantly left handed then right handed. Switching wrist watches and rings accordingly. The condition is a birth defect that also affects the body. The body grows off centre causing the person to lean. The face is often slanted in youth with the nose tilting to one side. There are in extreme cases mental problems and extreme behaviours. But but it can also as the person matures lead to everything kind of levelling out. With the person's face becoming more symmetrical with age. Also settling to use one hand predominantly. The habit of a strange stance remains with an arched spine and dropping arms. If the new picture is Bonny then the photographer has used poising stands to partly correct his stance. You can see the base of the stand right behind the left foot. There is no indication that the know picture was taken with a stand and so shows Bonny's natural stance.
I think it has already been established that Billy the kid was in fact right handed. The photo of him posing with the rifle is reversed, therefore the ring on the finger would be on the opposite hand and If the photos were compared as shown nothing would line up.
@Victor Bastos no, he didn’t have Chinese cut eyes. When his photo was taken, it was outside in front of the bar and it was windy. He was squinting his eyes. Look at the right lapel on his vest and his wild rag. The lapel is turned up and the wild rag is blurry from movement.
@@R.E.M.954 Most Billy savants dispute the idea that the croquet kid is Billy. Also, the purported New Mexico location of the tintype has since been debunked. Not surprisingly, the image never sold.
If your a fugitive you wouldn’t want your picture plastered all over New Mexico would you. Hence why it’s so hard to find a picture of billy the kid,and who’s to say that the tin lid picture is actually billy the kid
It was known back in the 1960s (some WHBonney eyewitnesses were still alive back then and a lot of his history has been lost;) that Billy enjoyed having his photo taken. There are quite a few floating around out there and likely more handed-down treasures still to be discovered. It's really fun to see them surface. However, in this case, I disagree that the teeth are the same. Billy's front teeth protruded enough that he couldn't close his mouth without either the lip sticking out noticably or part of the front tooth showing. That isn't definitive in this photo. Even though his ears do stick out, his right ear is not the same shape. But there is a family resemblance. I think it's very possible that this is Joe. His hair was darker than Billy's. His gaze is often one of resignation. I've seen it before in photos up for authentication. If somebody comes across photos with similarities to Billy but different enough that "experts" deny verification, bear in mind that it could be Joe. He was a bit ore even featured. More subdued countenance.
"It was known back in the 1960s (some WHBonney eyewitnesses were still alive back then and a lot of his history has been lost;) that Billy enjoyed having his photo taken. There are quite a few floating around out there and likely more handed-down treasures still to be discovered. It's really fun to see them surface." Oh, really? I've never seen such a quote; please enlighten me as to which of his surviving friends you are referring to and provide the actual quote{s}. If the Kid liked to have his photo taken so much, it's a shame that we only have a single tintype today: the only authenticated image of BTK. Sorry, but the photo this video is about has NOT been authenticated---despite what this video's title (click-bait) proclaims. Pure garbage.
under the magnifying glass she can see the very tip of the upper bite under the lip I believe people should concentrate however in the ear fingerprint that remains pretty much same throughout life, regardless size growth.
Billy the kid is my favorite from the old West, when I was a kid myself I always wanted to be Billy the kid and I always played like I was him and then when I got older I always check out evey video about Billy, I'm just fascinated with Billy the kid just because I feel like he really never wanted to be an outlaw but was forced into it by circumstances beyond his fault but I believe he became very good with a gun and he deserves to be well known anyway I wish they could make a movie about Billy that uses an actor that looks very much like him sense they know what he looked like that would be cool and also make the movie as true to the real story as possible.
You never seen young guns or young guns 2? There's no getting better than that. Out dated or not by today's younger generations standards those 2 movies are pretty accurate and Emilio Estaves plays the best Billy the kid by far. If you never watched them movies check them out.
@@iamheandheisinorsemen2605 yes i have seen those movies and they are good but emelio Estevez doesn't really look like the picture of the real Billy the Kid on the tin type of him in my opinion id like to see an actor that looks like him even if he's not a well known actor like emelio Estevez although i did luke him un the movie young guns.
they did look very alike could have been the kid just before the Lincoln co war started John Tunstall probley bout him the suit to smarting him up if he wasn't doing ranch work maybe he was working in the store and his mouth is closed but u can see the fela is also buck toothed the guy who said about his clothes date from 1880s to 1890s is he sure I no billy was killed in 1881 it could be if so it will be the 3rd photo of the kid they said the one were he playing croket wasn't him to but it got authenticated exciting times
Did he have a graze across his left ear like he does in the black and white one? I noticed the graze as if a bullet grazed up his putter ear .. nearly shot but escaped that death he did look closer... For the left ear has a graze like the bullet barely missed him taking off some of his putter ear. 😐
Though the two photos do indeed look different I think the photo could very well be authentic. It looks to me like Henry McCarthy, aka William Bonny, aka Billy the Kid was three or four years younger. Neat!!
They have Billy the Kid's Winchester picture so horizontally stretched out it makes him look like he's 300 lbs. He looks more like Billy the Pig and not the Kid.
Theres actually 2 REAL pictures of billy in existence with provenance now. The famous one and the now the one of him playing cards with richard brewer, fred Waite, and Henry Newton Brown
That tinny town photo guys took any thing that come along . People of Lincoln County say Billy was not cheap .he bout his friends nice gifts all the time. And his girl friends dresses he would pick them out his self. Hats . Jewelry even Pat Garret got nice wedding gifts for his home and his kids .Billy was loved the Sam by all kids Billy would by big sacks of candy give kids hadfulls .he was a loved by many.👍💔
Same teeth?? you can't even see the other guys teeth. the more preposterous claims like this I'm subjected to.....the more faith I lose in "facial recognition" But hey, can't ignore that pinky ring...What a load of crap.
Of all the "pics" I've seen of The Kid, this one looks the most compelling. He looks about 14-15 here. Same chin, ears, crooked eyes, ring on finger, slanted shoulders and wide mid-section. If you look at the full pic you'll see even his feet are positioned the same. People forget the authenticated pic is distorted. Of course comparing the dentition is a reach. The only thing I can figure she is talking about is Billy had 2 protruding front teeth and the picture in question looks like his upper lip is pushed out a bit. But would I go all-in on it without prominence? Nope. I am about 65% convinced it's him.
Everyone always looks at the wrong and most obvious thing; the face! Look at the relaxed posture of his HANDS! His left thumb has a different "v" angle between the knuckle and tip. This never changes and seen clearly at 1:46. This other fella is NOT the Kid!
In Rudousa might have spelled that wrong at the btk museum you walk in the door and on the right door post they have the tin tip picture and a picture of btk taken in the 1920's that was found in the attic of a railroad conduters attic that was a friend of bills and it does look just like btk
Yeah I think it is go back and look at the mouth. But the shitty part is ,we'll never know.i wish someone would hurry up and invent the time machine. Someone could go back in time find billy and ask him if this is him. And also warn him of Pat's dirty ambush.
It doesn't match shit . It seems all these pictures that no one found for 140 years are coming outta the wood work . I wonder if 5 million and 2 million for the two only known pictures of Billy had Any thing to do with that?
Close resemblance but nope. Ridiculous the they’re saying the forensic expert says all features match even the teeth ???--The Subject in the supposed photo has his mouth closed- can’t see the teeth!!!!!
The sky is raining Billy the Kid photos. How did Billy ever have time to be a gunslinger; he spent all his waking hours in a photo studio. These two people, Billy and the lad in the DeAragon image look nothing alike. And the teeth business -- is Lois Gibson pulling our leg? -- the DeAragon lad's teeth are not visible.
I can see it. If you study the cheek bones, nose, teeth, ears, body type etc., I think they match up well. I think he's wearing the same ring and boots in both photos and is posing in a very similar matter. The famous authenticated tintype is a bit distorted and I think Billy was squinting in the famous photo. In fact, everyone that knew Billy basically said that the tintype was him, but didn't really capture his features or didn't really look like him.
in the one posing with his rifle, he looks like if he just dismounted off a many hours or days riding with little sleep too btw, but maybe he was just barely awaken and still on a hangover, making him look as if stoned. Just plastered face.
It’s not priceless…the last one had a hefty price, enough to change you and your family’s lives forever. He’ll sell, you just don’t get on t.v. and say so…extended family shows up out of nowhere.
I don’t think that picture was from before Billy went wild like the woman said.. I think Billy just cleaned up good. Billy’s sweetheart even said the other famous tintype didn’t do him justice.
Maybe it's him, maybe not. One forensic artist says it's him, but another could argue the opposite. There's a faint resemblance but not enough to make it a definite Billy, like the famous one.
The picture of Billy the kid in his cowboy clothes is a reversed negative, he was right handed so that pinky ring would be on his left hand. That does not match with this new picture, unless that picture was a reverse negative.
The one of Billy in cowboy garb is flipped! The rifle is a Winchester, which has the loading gate on the right side, but the Winchester in Billy's hand has the loading gate on the left side which means the picture has been flipped, it is a mirror image and not a picture. Matching other pictures only works if they are also flipped.
If it’s the same photographer it would explain why the poses are similar but these two guys don’t look much alike.
don't think this is the kid.the hands look too large to slip hand cuffs over
They LOOK much alike
I hope this woman isn't testifying in court cases. These two pictures look nothing alike.
I totally agree.
uhh..yea they do
Billy did Not look sober in the original photo.
FR that's what I said it doesn't take an expert to see they look nothing alike!!!😂🤦♂️
@@worldpeace4231the ears are a different shape
damn,billy must have been the only teenager in the west to have his own personal photographer.he is everywhere posing like movie star.
elchoya100 😂😂
Dude was 21 at time of death... still a “kid” nonetheless
@@savagesooner4891 Middle-aged for the 1800s.
I'm sure he had money he was a rustler and held up a few folks I'm sure. Not saying he was evil but his line of work did bring funds
@@savagesooner4891 alot of these photos he would've been in his teens
Billy the Kid was like the guy with a hundred different faces. He was amazing! I would never have recognized him. 04/20/20
I don't see any resemblance at all. Billy the Kid has a look about him that is unique. In the recently authenticated croquet photo, I immediately knew that was Billy the Kid.
Not immediately for me but very quickly became convinced.
You can barely make out his face in that pic.
It's not authenticated
The croquet one is not authenticated
Both this one and the croquet are not authenticated. These folks shop around and pay others to give their photo importance but they’ve all been proven false so far. Only one photo that is proven.
I'm not sure what's sillier. The video, or the staggering number of photograph analysis experts in the comments.
I've been a portrait artist for nearly 30 years & have looked at tons of bad photos to try to get a decent likeness of people, this doesn't make me a forensics expert in any way, I've just had a bit of experience looking at bad photography, I also understand that people can look slightly different in photos depending on several factors, lighting, pose, length of time between photos, etc...that being said, I'm not seeing much resemblance between the two people in these photos at all other than the pose...I think the examiner, while no doubt having extensive experience in her field, was just ready to believe this photo was of the same person & let her imagination take over...I don't think this is the same person...interesting old photo, but doesn't match in my opinion...
The pose is the same coz most tintype poses are like that. Basically a rod up the back. You can see the feet of the post behind both subjects feet.
It kept them still during the long exposure time needed for tintype.
As a photographer and professional studio portrait photographer for years, i have to say you pose your subject. The pose is most likely going to be photographers choice not billys or whoever that is. If it is billy and as it says the same photographer then that makes sense for the similar pose.
Yea their features look nothing alike I think you said it right she just let her imagination take over!!
The mouth is closed in the second pic so how can you match the dentition? The jaw line, eyes, brows and ear lobes are also different. Not convinced at all.
I was thing the same thing.
Excellent point. The teeth on the DeAragon image are not visible. The so called "forensic heavyweight" Louis Gibson is blowing smoke. Also, not that it matters but the DeAragon youth looks nothing like Billy the Kid.
how many wear a ring on their pinkie though?
Agree on all points. Let us not forget also that the photo with guns is a reversed image, giving rise to the myth that the Kid was left-handed. Look at the bullet port on the Winchester rifle: in the photo the port is on the left [ as you hold it for shooting] side of the breech. Winchester never made the rifle in that configuration; the port was always on the right side.
@@antoniograncino3506 Wrong, Winchester did make a few left handed 1871s to special order, so if this is a left handed 1871 the question is how did Billy get it?
It's all in the eyebrows. Billy had has some dark and really rocking eyebrows that stand out even on the little tin type. If you can't see the eyebrows, it's probably not him.
The guy says he's going to keep it cuz it's an heirloom then his dumb grandkid grabs it sells it to a pawn shop for 50 bucks these things go
Billy was always wild!
Literally the 5th video I've seen of some random guy with a new billy the kid picture these things are popping up all over.
Well, the amazing thing about Billy is that he keeps on livin'! He never "grows old" in the public's mind and he always makes a come-back. In fact, he's the Comeback Kid!
Yup
Billy the kid legend lives on
These are interesting. There are some similarities but the ears are very different and the real Billy’s boots are smaller in size and Billy’s hands look smaller. Cool photo, I love this stuff, and I’m no expert but I don’t personally believe it’s Bonney. Especially looking at the ears, they look a lot different.
The only things that make it possible are that the ring is on the same finger and the teeth are slightly protruding. The problem for me is that Billy was always skinny and did not wear rumpled, mature clothing. This person is a little "dumpy." Billy was a slender, wiry reed of a kid, with an attitude.
The pinky ring is not on the same hand because Billy’s photo was discovered that the negative was reversed, unless they’re both reversed?
Not the kid and I can prove it. The photograph on the right of the authenticated Billy the Kid tintype shows him holding the Winchester rifle in his right hand and his Colt thunderer pistol on his left hip but this is not true because the tintype was reversed which means that Billy is holding the rifle in his left hand which means that he was right handed. Therefore this means that the gamblers ring that Billy wore was technically on his left hand. If you look at the photograph at the on the left you'll see that the gamblers ring is worn on the right hand. Now one could make the claim that the photograph on the left could be a reverse tintype therefore claiming that the gamblers ring was worn on the left hand but then the buttons on the coat would be on the left side as well and male coats simply don't have buttons on the left side they have buttons on the right.
You don't have to hold a rifle in a specific hand just for a picture, that's ridiculous. We'll trust the world famous forensic analyst, but thanks
Dude it's a tin type as well brother
Actually, a famous fact about Billy is that he was ambidextrous. That's one of the reasons he was such a great gunslinger. He could shoot with both hands.
I noticed that too. But he was also meant to be ambidextrous. Such people have a habit over time of being predominantly left handed then right handed. Switching wrist watches and rings accordingly. The condition is a birth defect that also affects the body. The body grows off centre causing the person to lean. The face is often slanted in youth with the nose tilting to one side. There are in extreme cases mental problems and extreme behaviours.
But but it can also as the person matures lead to everything kind of levelling out. With the person's face becoming more symmetrical with age. Also settling to use one hand predominantly. The habit of a strange stance remains with an arched spine and dropping arms.
If the new picture is Bonny then the photographer has used poising stands to partly correct his stance. You can see the base of the stand right behind the left foot. There is no indication that the know picture was taken with a stand and so shows Bonny's natural stance.
Its a reverse tin type aswell you complete tit
They don't even say whether it's a tintype or a cabinet card
I think it has already been established that Billy the kid was in fact right handed. The photo of him posing with the rifle is reversed, therefore the ring on the finger would be on the opposite hand and If the photos were compared as shown nothing would line up.
Oh goodness, the eyebrows are always a give away. Not the same person.
I agree. Eyebrows never change.
@Victor Bastos no, he didn’t have Chinese cut eyes. When his photo was taken, it was outside in front of the bar and it was windy. He was squinting his eyes. Look at the right lapel on his vest and his wild rag. The lapel is turned up and the wild rag is blurry from movement.
@@BlackbirdSpecOps They’re talking about the eyebrows not eyes. Eyebrow and eyes and two completely separate things
@@nick-un9pk yes they can.
I think that's not him but there is another picture of him tho where he is playing croket with Sally chisim and some of the other regulators.
That croquet picture was appraised at 5million dollars.That's pretty authenticated to me.I'm convinced.
@@R.E.M.954 Most Billy savants dispute the idea that the croquet kid is Billy. Also, the purported New Mexico location of the tintype has since been debunked. Not surprisingly, the image never sold.
One picture you can see the teeth and one you can't, but for some reason the have the same teeth without seeing it in both pictures.
No evidence that the same photographer took both photos. Rather silly claims being made about two people who don't look anything alike. No evidence.
If your a fugitive you wouldn’t want your picture plastered all over New Mexico would you. Hence why it’s so hard to find a picture of billy the kid,and who’s to say that the tin lid picture is actually billy the kid
It was known back in the 1960s (some WHBonney eyewitnesses were still alive back then and a lot of his history has been lost;) that Billy enjoyed having his photo taken. There are quite a few floating around out there and likely more handed-down treasures still to be discovered. It's really fun to see them surface. However, in this case, I disagree that the teeth are the same. Billy's front teeth protruded enough that he couldn't close his mouth without either the lip sticking out noticably or part of the front tooth showing. That isn't definitive in this photo. Even though his ears do stick out, his right ear is not the same shape. But there is a family resemblance. I think it's very possible that this is Joe. His hair was darker than Billy's. His gaze is often one of resignation. I've seen it before in photos up for authentication. If somebody comes across photos with similarities to Billy but different enough that "experts" deny verification, bear in mind that it could be Joe. He was a bit ore even featured. More subdued countenance.
Not Billy but def could be Joseph
" Hey, Joe."
"It was known back in the 1960s (some WHBonney eyewitnesses were still alive back then and a lot of his history has been lost;) that Billy enjoyed having his photo taken. There are quite a few floating around out there and likely more handed-down treasures still to be discovered. It's really fun to see them surface."
Oh, really? I've never seen such a quote; please enlighten me as to which of his surviving friends you are referring to and provide the actual quote{s}.
If the Kid liked to have his photo taken so much, it's a shame that we only have a single tintype today: the only authenticated image of BTK. Sorry, but the photo this video is about has NOT been authenticated---despite what this video's title (click-bait) proclaims. Pure garbage.
My dad was good friends with Slim Garrett, Pat Garrett's nephew. We used to shoot trap together in Avenal, Calif.
Why I could never trust 'eye-witness' testimony.. People are ridiculous!
Billy was the very first Instagrammer, using a 8x10 large format chamber camera
Video didn't state if the complete provenance was authenticated concerning the origin of this photo which is needed to prove it's authenticity.
"The dentition really locks it in for me" is mouth is closed ROFL FBI's finest
you can tell it pushes his lip out in both
under the magnifying glass she can see the very tip of the upper bite under the lip
I believe people should concentrate however in the ear fingerprint that remains pretty much same throughout life, regardless size growth.
Yep, Billy the Kid sometimes went around disguised as a Mexican of completely different appearance from himself.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of his photo to a photo of Brushy Bill.
It's already been done, some people say yes - I say no. I'm not an expert by any stretch of the amagintion
i'll give him a quarter for that authentic picture of somebody from the old west,but not billy the kid!
Billy the kid is my favorite from the old West, when I was a kid myself I always wanted to be Billy the kid and I always played like I was him and then when I got older I always check out evey video about Billy, I'm just fascinated with Billy the kid just because I feel like he really never wanted to be an outlaw but was forced into it by circumstances beyond his fault but I believe he became very good with a gun and he deserves to be well known anyway I wish they could make a movie about Billy that uses an actor that looks very much like him sense they know what he looked like that would be cool and also make the movie as true to the real story as possible.
All Billy was doing was taking up for his employer ( he was eventually assassinated ) who was being pushed around by the corrupt leaders of the area
Doing that very thing, right now. Some day on Netflix, fingers crossed.
You never seen young guns or young guns 2? There's no getting better than that. Out dated or not by today's younger generations standards those 2 movies are pretty accurate and Emilio Estaves plays the best Billy the kid by far. If you never watched them movies check them out.
@@iamheandheisinorsemen2605 yes i have seen those movies and they are good but emelio Estevez doesn't really look like the picture of the real Billy the Kid on the tin type of him in my opinion id like to see an actor that looks like him even if he's not a well known actor like emelio Estevez although i did luke him un the movie young guns.
@@jimmyjennings4089 Why do you hate punctuation?
they did look very alike could have been the kid just before the Lincoln co war started John Tunstall probley bout him the suit to smarting him up if he wasn't doing ranch work maybe he was working in the store and his mouth is closed but u can see the fela is also buck toothed the guy who said about his clothes date from 1880s to 1890s is he sure I no billy was killed in 1881 it could be if so it will be the 3rd photo of the kid they said the one were he playing croket wasn't him to but it got authenticated exciting times
doesnt even look-a-like
Did he have a graze across his left ear like he does in the black and white one? I noticed the graze as if a bullet grazed up his putter ear .. nearly shot but escaped that death he did look closer... For the left ear has a graze like the bullet barely missed him taking off some of his putter ear. 😐
Have these people heard of the word provenance?!?!
Wow. ❤
I got a whole photo album of Billy The Kid. Will consider all offers above my reserve of 10 million.
Though the two photos do indeed look different I think the photo could very well be authentic. It looks to me like Henry McCarthy, aka William Bonny, aka Billy the Kid was three or four years younger. Neat!!
Oh bullshit.
The croquet photo looks pretty close from a distant shot. This doesn't, from a close- in shot.
Many people at this time used to wear the same clothes and have the same haircut,,,,
Different eyes lady, namely the eyelids !
They have Billy the Kid's Winchester picture so horizontally stretched out it makes him look like he's 300 lbs. He looks more like Billy the Pig and not the Kid.
Theres actually 2 REAL pictures of billy in existence with provenance now. The famous one and the now the one of him playing cards with richard brewer, fred Waite, and Henry Newton Brown
I've never seen the picture of him playing cards. Where do I find that? Thanks for your time.
@@williejohnkristofferson2898 search ”Billy the kid playing cards” on the internet and you Will find it
The card playing photo has no provenance so it isn’t authenticated. Just speculation.
It seems any picture of any kid from 1800s is Billy bonnie.
Billy the kid looking like Tom holland in that second photo
Wrote my senior paper on the kid....very interesting pic...thanx
The newly discovered Carte de visited is clearly of 1862-1865 vintage. How old was Billy the Kid during that rime?
He was born in 1859, then you can to the math.
That tinny town photo guys took any thing that come along . People of Lincoln County say Billy was not cheap .he bout his friends nice gifts all the time. And his girl friends dresses he would pick them out his self. Hats . Jewelry even Pat Garret got nice wedding gifts for his home and his kids .Billy was loved the Sam by all kids Billy would by big sacks of candy give kids hadfulls .he was a loved by many.👍💔
His teeth aren't even showing in the photo of the guy in a suit, he weighs a good 30 pounds more and the eye brows are not the same. NOPE!
Man I love William
Same teeth?? you can't even see the other guys teeth. the more preposterous claims like this I'm subjected to.....the more faith I lose in "facial recognition" But hey, can't ignore that pinky ring...What a load of crap.
Theres 2 and a half minuets I will never get back.
She says that you can tell by the teeth, but in the second photo his mouth is closed.
Finding authentic photos of Billy the Kidd just about rivals the finding of people who written the plays of Shakespeare.
Bigfoot took those pictures and wrote those plays.
and the ones coming up with "lost but found" secret and hidden plays of Will, that of course nobody knew about, not even himself
If ur name pops up as one of the goats. Thats incredible
This is really cool
Who should I contact if I have a photo of Billy the kid??
Nothing was said about Randy's picture of Billy in Fresno CA.
There's 2 or 3 pics of Billy now.
There's only 2 pictures and the 2nd one is of Billy with Charlie on his wedding day playing Croke on Tunsteels property.
TRU MAN there’s another clear match, but no provenance
Of all the "pics" I've seen of The Kid, this one looks the most compelling. He looks about 14-15 here. Same chin, ears, crooked eyes, ring on finger, slanted shoulders and wide mid-section. If you look at the full pic you'll see even his feet are positioned the same. People forget the authenticated pic is distorted. Of course comparing the dentition is a reach. The only thing I can figure she is talking about is Billy had 2 protruding front teeth and the picture in question looks like his upper lip is pushed out a bit. But would I go all-in on it without prominence? Nope. I am about 65% convinced it's him.
Everyone always looks at the wrong and most obvious thing; the face! Look at the relaxed posture of his HANDS! His left thumb has a different "v" angle between the knuckle and tip. This never changes and seen clearly at 1:46. This other fella is NOT the Kid!
In Rudousa might have spelled that wrong at the btk museum you walk in the door and on the right door post they have the tin tip picture and a picture of btk taken in the 1920's that was found in the attic of a railroad conduters attic that was a friend of bills and it does look just like btk
2men,very different atmosphere, different fashion..... different face...
and what about the position of ears ?
Did he ever do a Play-girl centrefold ?
Not a chance in hell. Two different people
Yeah I think it is go back and look at the mouth. But the shitty part is ,we'll never know.i wish someone would hurry up and invent the time machine. Someone could go back in time find billy and ask him if this is him. And also warn him of Pat's dirty ambush.
Best reply yet mate
So how was it authenticated?
nope not billy the kid. face doesn't match at all.
Ye it doas i think its him
It doesn't match shit . It seems all these pictures that no one found for 140 years are coming outta the wood work . I wonder if 5 million and 2 million for the two only known pictures of Billy had Any thing to do with that?
Those 2 pics are not of the same person. Experts my aahh ,eye
I must say they are very alike.
Noticed Billy has a sweater on like in other photographs.
I wish I could find a pic of him
How many photographers were in Lincoln county in 1870s the total population was like450 and billy wasn’t at the local bar saying pics of billy the kid
Notorious outlaw, sure let's just get our picture taken everywhere we go. Like come on people.
Close resemblance but nope. Ridiculous the they’re saying the forensic expert says all features match even the teeth ???--The Subject in the supposed photo has his mouth closed- can’t see the teeth!!!!!
As an artist, nope, not at all, the eyes and ears are different, easily.
There's also one of him and others playing, what I think, is polo
It's all in the eyes...they look different
Thats the true Billy the Kid
Interesting image. Lots of tin types on ebay I found 2 that look like they could be Billy the kid.
The sky is raining Billy the Kid photos. How did Billy ever have time to be a gunslinger; he spent all his waking hours in a photo studio. These two people, Billy and the lad in the DeAragon image look nothing alike. And the teeth business -- is Lois Gibson pulling our leg? -- the DeAragon lad's teeth are not visible.
I can see it. If you study the cheek bones, nose, teeth, ears, body type etc., I think they match up well. I think he's wearing the same ring and boots in both photos and is posing in a very similar matter. The famous authenticated tintype is a bit distorted and I think Billy was squinting in the famous photo. In fact, everyone that knew Billy basically said that the tintype was him, but didn't really capture his features or didn't really look like him.
in the one posing with his rifle, he looks like if he just dismounted off a many hours or days riding with little sleep too btw, but maybe he was just barely awaken and still on a hangover, making him look as if stoned. Just plastered face.
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Don't project your drinking problem onto others.
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Is he gonna sell it? Nope. Guess why - nobody would buy it. If that's Billy the Kid, I'm Wyatt Earl.
He better keep that photo as a Family Heirloom, & make damn sure no one in family ever gets rid of it for ANY reason. That there is PRICELESS, UNIQUE.
It’s not priceless…the last one had a hefty price, enough to change you and your family’s lives forever. He’ll sell, you just don’t get on t.v. and say so…extended family shows up out of nowhere.
Woow! Que increible! Si en realidad esta foto es autentica de Billy the Kid, significaria que nunca murio a los 21 años.
Now I'll read the comments for the opinions of the REAL experts .... !
I don’t think that picture was from before Billy went wild like the woman said.. I think Billy just cleaned up good. Billy’s sweetheart even said the other famous tintype didn’t do him justice.
Very likely!
One is clearly Brushy Bill Roberts and the other is Billy The Kid.
Exactly!
Lol
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Wiliam H Roberts is Billy the Kid and Brushy Bill Roberts. The one and the same. Burried in Hico Texas.
@@RayLawrenceJrMUSIC a fake and fraud. Considering Robert’s was born in 1879. Must have been three when he was shot. 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe it's him, maybe not. One forensic artist says it's him, but another could argue the opposite. There's a faint resemblance but not enough to make it a definite Billy, like the famous one.
Damn Billy the Kid was a good looking dude....
Billy the kid had his own photographer and was known to stop often when running from the law and take pictures.
That’s not Billy the kid, that’s Hugh Mungus from 1969
Your absolutely correct. That is definitely old Hugh. I would recognize him anywhere.
Holly Crap not even close. Especially when you put them side by side. Sorry folks but no cigar for you.....
Needs to cash it in because it could likely go for tens of millions of dollars.
Without provenance it is just another photo. Worth pennies
The picture of Billy the kid in his cowboy clothes is a reversed negative, he was right handed so that pinky ring would be on his left hand. That does not match with this new picture, unless that picture was a reverse negative.
Very interesting... they do look very much alike.
Doesn’t look anything like him. Now the croquet picture?…you can see a good resemblance.
The eyebrows of the cowboy Kid are vastly darker than the suited Kid though.Not the Kid! That broad is wrong!