Same doctors that told him to get on a plane after his collapsed lung. Many specialists have stated that he would've died if he got on a plane in that condition, due to the air pressure. Kind of gives you a reason to doubt the medical team.
@@clarkerots9348 The doctors probably didn't know that he had a collapsed lung. Ultimately, thanks to Keith Jones, the doctors immediately brought Lindros a hospital in Nashville.
@@jonnygrossman6357 They knew. I could diagnose a collapsed lung. You use your stethoscope and get the patient to breathe while you listen. You can hear the weakness in the lung very easily. Even 2nd year medical students could have detected it.
Don’t forget that, when Lindros suffered that collapse lung, Bobby Clark tried to imply that he got the injury by driving around drunk in Nashville and getting into a wreck. History hasn’t been kind to Bobby.
I'm pretty sure that Dementia Pugilistica (punch drunk) was identified in the 1930's. We've known about permanent brain damage from chronic head injury for almost a hundred years.
Big E's press conference at MSG was well done. Eric's speech was perfect. Didn't bring up anything messy. Well spoken and classy. Glad he's in the HOF. He was a game changer for sure.
as a Rangers fan thanks to Eric for going to Philly as well. The guy was an incredible generational talent though, the next evolution hybrid of Mario Lemieux and Messier
This video is interesting to see 16-17 years later. It's funny how it used to be frowned upon to miss a game, or extended periods of time, due to a concussion... It's crazy how nobody realized the severity of the injury at that point in time.
Several great players in the last 20 years have had to retire because of concussions. Notable names include Pat LaFontaine, Eric Lindros, Keith Primeau, Paul Kariya, and Chris Pronger.
@@kevinbudzinski9576 but nobody would ever touch real players like Fedorov, Yzerman, Mogilnyi, Selänne, Stevens with a concunssions. Just admit, they were bad players with no brain or skill.
I am no fan of Carl and Bonnie, but I have to agree with them on this, in Clarke's zeal to have Eric play, he possibly pressured the Flyers medical staff, to not look too closely at Eric's concussion complaints, and even more disturbing, a collapsed lung, in order to get him back on the ice, is worrisome.
I know Bobby played through diabetes and his missing teeth but this was different. In his defense (and I don't side with Bobby here), he likely didn't know how devastating concussions are
Never was a Lindros fan but he got his head knocked around something fierce though and I feel for him. I've never had a concussion and it's a fear of mine quite honestly. It sounds like the Flyers exploited him despite the severity of his injuries.
@MisterMister5893 Took a slaphot to the head. Fractured skull. Missed the rest of the year. Next season he was cleared to play took a knee to the head in the crease and he was done. For 3 years he wanted to basically kill himself it was so bad.
@@daleravic wow just went down the rabbit hole on that and nice to see he recovered. That shot to the head looked like most errant shots goalies take. Then again, most people fall and get up; some don’t.
In Darren McCarty's book, he wrote about how Lindros had the tendency to skate with his down even in juniors, and that a lot of players tried lining him up.
Which as a guy is a Flyers fan and watched alot of Lindros that is absolutely true. A guy his size who skated with his head down that much, amazing he lasted as long as he did. Kasparitis hit wse a cheap shot, Stevens absolutely pummeled him. How stick flew about one hundred feet after the hit.
@@charlespappas6865 Kasparitis was a clean hit, all shoulder catching eric with his head down. No penalty was issued, no disciplinary action. It was the hit of the year!
Bobby Clark drop the ball big time with the Big E. Did Clark think Eric would just put his own health off to the side and just play until he had massive brain damage?!?!?! If Clark's staff would have put Eric's health first he would have played 18 years there and probably won a few cups. I mean anyone who watch this man play knows he was a force that could not be explained just crazy to watch him play and such a joy to watch him too. You would catch yourself smiling watching the big E play. By far my favorite player to watch growing up. I wish they made them like him still. I have never see another Eric since the Big E!!. But Bobby was more concerned with just winning and eric paid the ultimate price. Such a shame. And Eric wasn't the only player or staff member to shine a light on Clark's methods. Long live the Big E!!!
Not back then. NHL went all pussy. Nowadays you can hit anyone sideways without getting any immediate repercussions. Sit for 10 games, then play for 10 and do it again. Back in the 90's. You hit a player sideways. You'd get your ass handed to you by the biggest guy on the team.
He was such a fucking dominant player in his heyday. I really can't even think about anyone be so dominant in the 90's as Lindros was. He scored goals, set up his linemates, hit everything in sight and led the team. Just a phenomenal player who's career could've been the stuff of ages, if he'd stay healthy.
@@ronfroehlich4697 They’re great, but lindros is the best power forward to play the game. He was huge, and flew down the ice much faster than both. Lemiuex was similar in height and weight, but slower and didn’t hit as hard and lindros.
@@ronfroehlich4697 You wouldn't compare Eric Lindros' dominance to that of Sidney Crosby because of the glaring difference. Jaromir Jagr and Mario Lemieux are legends but very different players.
The Stevens hit definitely derailed his career. It’s a shame that injuries took a toll on him, and that he couldn’t finish with the Flyers. Lindros and his family definitely had their faults in the whole mess but I really blame a lot on Clarke. I think his bully mentality, the lack of info on head injuries at that point, and the seeming belief that you weren’t tough if you missed time with injury, all led to the whole situation being poorly handled.
Michael Bartholomew Being a Flyers fan and watching every game of the Lindros era, his career is just a big what if? He was utterly dominant his first 5 years as Lindros and the team were never the same after they were swept by the RedWings in the Finals. He got a concussion from Kasparitis in ‘98, collapsed lung in ‘99, another concussion from Gill in ‘00 and the final blow from Stevens in the ‘00 Conference Finals. We should have won multiple Cups with a generational talent like Lindros, but never had a goalie, never had a 2nd scoring line, and a Management that was behind the times still drafting muckers and grinders. We’ve made 1 Cup Final since 1997, compared to going to 6 Finals in their first 20 seasons.
@@chrisolivo6591 I agree with your assessment. Although many mark the Stevens hit as the beginning of the end for Lindros, I always felt it happened after Mr. Clarke began to publicly criticize him after the 97 Finals loss. When your employer does that in a public forum, it's bound to have an impact on you. Couple that to the fact that such criticism, aimed at the club's top player was bound to create a lot of tension/drama that his teammates had to deal with and you can easily see why the club never reached its full potential despite being very talented. One of the axioms of leadership is to always produce an environment that allows your players to flourish. Clarke, based on his actions during the era, appeared to be regurgitating the tactics likely employed during the 1970s when he played. Unfortunately, he didn't seem to realize that the times, even in the late 1990s, were beginning to change. I think that if someone like the late Pat Quinn had been in charge of the Flyers during that era, things would have been different for them.
I agree with much of what you said. Clarke has this no fault relationship given him by Snyder and that affects byhe way a G.M. will treat his roster. Eric had some great years and ask me, the Stevens hit was the beginning of the end. Amazing as big and skilled as Eric was, he ALWAYS skates with his head down. And was big moving btarget at that point.
No. When the doctors and trainers examined Lindros, he told them that he was fine. How the hell were they supposed to know that he had a concussion? They're not mind readers.
The Flyers should have been sued for what they did to Lindros. He had all the symptoms but he didn’t understand the way concussions effected people. The doctors did but the flyers paid them to shit their mouths and they complied. every dr on that team should no longer be allowed to practice.
Mike Youngblood Bobby Clarke is ignorant. He was also a dirty player and poor sport. I remember when he injured that Russian player that was sickening.
@@frankmacomb1223 Bobby Clark played in a different era. He is a very well respected hockey player, and clearly he was absolutely right. Lindros started losing it after those hits, you know that, who's fault was that, Bobby's, or Eric's for not keeping his head up?
Jim finally a guy with a brain. No one ever considers the different eras in hockey. Clarke was one of the best flyers in history and one of the best captains in history. Anyone who argues that doesn’t know who Bobby Clarke was as a player and the type of league he played in.
You have to cringe at the length of time he spent with his head down. The problem was growing up, he was a man among boys and did not think about getting hit. Being mentally conditioned to stare down, not glance, set him self up for men in the NHL to demolish him.
Oh yeah that was inside the post for sure. Hasek revolutionized the game, his "flopping" unorthodox style is the norm now. It was a pleasure watching him play in person
I loved the game of the 70s, 80s, and 90s but holy moley if Lindros played today with the Crosby rules and limited high hits the guy would be unstoppable
Great player Lindros he had too many concisions, he couldn't be the same player he was for the Flyers when he came to the Rangers he was done and he kept on coming back after one head trauma after another he's lucky to be healthy and alive, his Brother Bret who played for the Islanders got it worse with too many diggers to the head, well these two guys probably where the forerunner's who brought more attention to concision parodical in all contact sports. Wishing them the best of health...….
Bob Clarke was an old broadstreet bully - they probably played with 1/2 an ear hanging off and concussions were probably 'a part of the job' in his mind.
What ??? His fight card sucks ! A hugh man in an NHL where fights were plentiful he was almost absent . And the few checks he gave were usually dirty .
@@47tooter No one wanted to fight him. He destroyed the ones who did try. Apparently you haven't seen him play. Because he hit extremely hard, not dirty. They were on the edge, but not dirty.
Bobby, if you had known how contagious and long-term devastating concussions are, would you say that about Eric? More importantly, would YOU have played through those in your time if you had known?
A great player and era on Flyers hockey. I ne, you can't skate with your head down as fast as the game moved and not expect to be hit. Two Lindros was like Achilles. He played very physical and that style caught up to him. Ultimately with the concussions, his strength became his downfall.
You know, the press always made it sound like lindros was this spoiled brat. All i see is a guy who gave it his all, sacrificed his body over and over, came back from injuries....and never complained until the bitter end. The flyers saying he was making up headaches is awful. To me, he hardly ever says anything bitchy.
Disgusting the way Bob Clarke and the Flyers handled Eric's concussions. Complete ignorance on their part and a refusal even now, all these years later, to admit they didn't know what they were talking about and Lindros' serious brain trauma wasn't "migraine headaches." disgrace to one of the best players to ever lace up the skates
At least you had Jeremy Roenick. If Terry Murray had stayed or Roger Nielson were hired earlier than he was, the Flyers still lose the 2000 ECF to the Devils. The only difference is that he never gets injured in 1999-2000, until game 7 of the ECF.
Clarke did a piss poor job or surrounding Eric with the type of team that could win a Stanley Cup. They never had enough speed or depth on the team and often didn’t protect him the way they should. For a while they had Trent Klatt of all people on a line with Eric. How does that happen? Clarke was living in a bygone era where slow big guys won cups but didn’t adapt to the fact that speed and depth was needed to win a cup. See Colorado and Detroit for examples.
I remember all this and really hate to say but his style of play was the problem. A big strong man and a lot of hitting will catch up to you and not to mention the league didn’t protect their all stars. He was a marked man in the league because of his style of play. Pavel Bure had his career ended also because the league didn’t protect him and had his knee damaged
crazy that it took the league this long to at least acknowlegde that hits like that dont belong in the game. they still dont do a very good job of handing out discipline, you never know what theyre going to do. hits that should get suspensions dont even get a hearing, and others that arent bad get suspensions. the NHL is still a joke when it comes to officiating. inconsistent garbage night in and night out.
Weird, it is almost as if the hockey gods punished him for bailing on Quebec City. Think about it... He always came up just short of winning. Oh, and that Quebec City team, turned into the Avalanche that won 2 cups. The guy he was traded for (Peter Forsberg) helped them win both. The draft pick he was traded for turned into Jocelyn Thibault, who was then traded for Patrick fucking Roy. So you can hate me all you want for my comment (if you are a big E fan) but the proof is right in front of you! Eric still had a great career, but it could have had more trophies/medals involved.
It was much better for Lindros to leave the mess in Philly than risk his life playing for an organization that didn't give a rats ass about his health!
@@wanderer34 I think your being a little dramatic although I wont deny some shady medical practices were happening in Philly for sure. But those were the times. Concussion awareness really didnt get serious until after Eric's injurys/Career, unfortunately.
@@ginodelgobbo9237 the reason why I don’t follow the Flyers like I used to is because the Flyers haven’t been as competitive this century as they was the last century. The hit by Stevens wasn’t so much the beginning of the end for Lindros, but for the Flyers as an organization. PIT has won 5, TB is on the verge of winning their third straight and the Flyers haven’t really done diddly squat. It’s not hate it is what it is. Sad.
This is nothing personal against Lindros as he was a competent Ranger when he was healthy, but it goes to show what an idiot Glen Sather was and remains when he doesn't have a Messier or a Gretzky's shoulders to ride on. Lindros had 6 concussions when he arrived in NY. Sadly and tragically he was damaged and everyone - but Sather it seems - knew he was just one hit away from a 7th. In fact, he another 3 during his tenure in NYC. He should have been among the best. But he also should have never played for another team. His body said "no" and he should have listened to his body.
Most of those hits were clean but the Scott Steven's hit was cheap and Bush league. He clearly used an elbow and the rest of the Flyers were too cowardly to respond.
The code in Philly was to never ever cart a player off on a stretcher. It goes against all medical practices and the players have to deal with it afterwards. You all noticed how that bs changed when Ed Snider died.
Stop skating with your fucking head down! Albeit it looked like some guys were intentionally targeting his head perhaps because they knew he would fold like a cheap suit. But still... Godammit Eric keep your head up.
It is as if the hockey gods punished him for not reporting to Quebec, ends in Philly and plays in games he wouldn't have if he was a Nord/Av. Had he played for Quebec he would have won cups. Hockey gods punished him. Gave him glory but paid for it.
IF You live by the sword, you die by the sword. IF your going to go looking for trouble, "who ever you are", Your going to find it. Lindros was a power puff, who found it.
Complaining and whining about the staff , Usual crybaby when things aren't going great for him . I don't like the fact he is bigger than most players and he plays dirty , And Why is he in the hall of fame ?
@@integrity101 Remember the Quebec Nordiques , All the fans would wear diapers and suck baby bottles when he played .. Why hall of fame ? He has no awards or accomplishments . No records , No trophy's . And has never scored 50 goals . He was a bust .
Peter Forsberg NHL PPG 1994-2011 1.250 QUE/COL 1994-2004 PPG 1.278 Eric Lindros 1992-2007 NHL PPG 1.138 PHI 1992-2000 PPG 1.356 PHI/NYR PPG 1992-2002 1.312 Bobby Clarke PHI 1969-1984 PPG 1.058 1971-1980 PPG 1.190 While Bobby Clarke is considered the best player ever to don the orange and black jersey and in his nine year prime, he was arguabl7 the best player in hockey second only to the great Bobby Orr in the 1970's. Fast forward to the 1990's and in the 8-year period from 1992 to 2000, Lindros despite the injuries and concussions, was obviously a better player if you want to consider the PPG average. Yes Lindros didn't have a decent goaltender, and the defense was shaky at best, but as a player, LIndros was just a better player during his prime than even Forsberg despite Forsberg winning two Stanley Cups and Forsberg having more success in the international competitions than Lindros, which is another topic. In the NHL Lindros according to the PPG especially during his prime years in PHI had 1.356 PPG and even with the NYR still was able to maintain his PPG to 1.312. It was later in his career when the PPG average shifted downward and even then he still maintains an overall NHL PPG average of 1.138. While it's not higher than Forsberg's average, it's still higher than Clarke's, who had more help with Bernie Parent in the net, and the most feared goon squad during their time (Schultz, Kelly, Saleski, and Dupont). All I'm saying is that had Lindros been mostly healthy and had Lindros had a better goaltender and even enforcers, I'm pretty sure he would've had a much higher PPG average. As of this writing, only Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, Orr had higher PPG average than Lindros and even the new kid from EDM, McDavid. He also has more hat tricks than Clarke in his career (13 including 11 with the Flyers over Clarke's 5; only Tim Kerr has more with 17). Once again, Clarke may be considered the best player on the Flyers, but during his time on the ice, Lindros was better in his eight years with PHI than Clarke was during his prime from 1971-1980 and especially in his career!!!
What those "Doctors" said about Lindros just having a Headche and not a Concussion is Disgusting.
Same doctors that told him to get on a plane after his collapsed lung. Many specialists have stated that he would've died if he got on a plane in that condition, due to the air pressure. Kind of gives you a reason to doubt the medical team.
@@clarkerots9348 The doctors probably didn't know that he had a collapsed lung. Ultimately, thanks to Keith Jones, the doctors immediately brought Lindros a hospital in Nashville.
@@jonnygrossman6357 They knew. I could diagnose a collapsed lung. You use your stethoscope and get the patient to breathe while you listen. You can hear the weakness in the lung very easily. Even 2nd year medical students could have detected it.
Well-Said
Don’t forget that, when Lindros suffered that collapse lung, Bobby Clark tried to imply that he got the injury by driving around drunk in Nashville and getting into a wreck. History hasn’t been kind to Bobby.
With what we know today about concussions...seeing what Lindros went through is really put into perspective.
I'm pretty sure that Dementia Pugilistica (punch drunk) was identified in the 1930's. We've known about permanent brain damage from chronic head injury for almost a hundred years.
Well-Said
9 and 14 years later, Eric Lindros played for the Rangers and Peter Forsberg played for the Flyers.
and neither were the same player they were in their prime. Both of them were two of the best centers of their generation.
@@lk5388 it was foppa’s feet right? That’s gotta be a frustrating one for an elite skater like Forsberg
Big E's press conference at MSG was well done. Eric's speech was perfect. Didn't bring up anything messy. Well spoken and classy. Glad he's in the HOF. He was a game changer for sure.
One of the greats no doubt.
To think he was only 28 here. Usually An athletes prime. Lindros by this point was already done (a shadow of himself). What could have been.
Well said. Body and the head can only take so much. Miss him playing. @TheWarlord9883
As an Avs fan, big thanks to Eric for two Stanley Cups! Nothing but love.
as a Rangers fan thanks to Eric for going to Philly as well. The guy was an incredible generational talent though, the next evolution hybrid of Mario Lemieux and Messier
Like you actually win anything because a corporate owned team wins a cup 😅
If I'm being honest, Sakic and Lindros would've been deadly. Add Roy and no matter the talent you're going to a Cup
@@thegadflygang5381 oh and thanks for Kim Johnsson by the way
@@thegadflygang5381 Eric didn’t fly into opponents face elbow first like Mess.
This video is interesting to see 16-17 years later. It's funny how it used to be frowned upon to miss a game, or extended periods of time, due to a concussion... It's crazy how nobody realized the severity of the injury at that point in time.
Several great players in the last 20 years have had to retire because of concussions. Notable names include Pat LaFontaine, Eric Lindros, Keith Primeau, Paul Kariya, and Chris Pronger.
@@kevinbudzinski9576 but nobody would ever touch real players like Fedorov, Yzerman, Mogilnyi, Selänne, Stevens with a concunssions. Just admit, they were bad players with no brain or skill.
Wtf are you talking about? You're telling me guys like Lindros, Lafontaine, Kairya etc have no brains or skill? You're an idiot
@@kevinbudzinski9576 marc savard
@@eyelid81 I think your the one who lacks a brain!
I am no fan of Carl and Bonnie, but I have to agree with them on this, in Clarke's zeal to have Eric play, he possibly pressured the Flyers medical staff, to not look too closely at Eric's concussion complaints, and even more disturbing, a collapsed lung, in order to get him back on the ice, is worrisome.
I know Bobby played through diabetes and his missing teeth but this was different. In his defense (and I don't side with Bobby here), he likely didn't know how devastating concussions are
The medical staff surely shared some of the blame in all of that.
Never was a Lindros fan but he got his head knocked around something fierce though and I feel for him. I've never had a concussion and it's a fear of mine quite honestly. It sounds like the Flyers exploited him despite the severity of his injuries.
The fact he reitred without lifelong problems is a miracle. Mike Richter took three years to feel normal and still has issues.
was Richter concussed as well ?
Mike Ritcher had concussions? I thought he retired healthy?
@MisterMister5893 Took a slaphot to the head. Fractured skull. Missed the rest of the year. Next season he was cleared to play took a knee to the head in the crease and he was done. For 3 years he wanted to basically kill himself it was so bad.
@@daleravic wow just went down the rabbit hole on that and nice to see he recovered. That shot to the head looked like most errant shots goalies take. Then again, most people fall and get up; some don’t.
In Darren McCarty's book, he wrote about how Lindros had the tendency to skate with his down even in juniors, and that a lot of players tried lining him up.
Which as a guy is a Flyers fan and watched alot of Lindros that is absolutely true. A guy his size who skated with his head down that much, amazing he lasted as long as he did. Kasparitis hit wse a cheap shot, Stevens absolutely pummeled him. How stick flew about one hundred feet after the hit.
@@charlespappas6865 Kasparitis was a clean hit, all shoulder catching eric with his head down. No penalty was issued, no disciplinary action. It was the hit of the year!
Bobby Clark drop the ball big time with the Big E. Did Clark think Eric would just put his own health off to the side and just play until he had massive brain damage?!?!?! If Clark's staff would have put Eric's health first he would have played 18 years there and probably won a few cups. I mean anyone who watch this man play knows he was a force that could not be explained just crazy to watch him play and such a joy to watch him too. You would catch yourself smiling watching the big E play. By far my favorite player to watch growing up. I wish they made them like him still. I have never see another Eric since the Big E!!. But Bobby was more concerned with just winning and eric paid the ultimate price. Such a shame. And Eric wasn't the only player or staff member to shine a light on Clark's methods.
Long live the Big E!!!
J Mak thank you for posting all of there great Lindros highlights!!! Please keep them coming!!!
Jesus christ that hit by Stevens was so illegal
Not back then.
NHL went all pussy. Nowadays you can hit anyone sideways without getting any immediate repercussions. Sit for 10 games, then play for 10 and do it again.
Back in the 90's. You hit a player sideways. You'd get your ass handed to you by the biggest guy on the team.
Eric had his head down. How is that Stevens fault?
So was Lindros check from behind right be4 that
And Lindros's hit on Dackell was legal ? Lindros got everything he deserved.
@@daveyboy_ you must have a sad life to wish injury upon someone or gain happiness over their injury. Loser.
He was such a fucking dominant player in his heyday.
I really can't even think about anyone be so dominant in the 90's as Lindros was. He scored goals, set up his linemates, hit everything in sight and led the team. Just a phenomenal player who's career could've been the stuff of ages, if he'd stay healthy.
Apparently you never saw Mario Lemieux or Jaromir Jagr.
@@ronfroehlich4697 They’re great, but lindros is the best power forward to play the game. He was huge, and flew down the ice much faster than both. Lemiuex was similar in height and weight, but slower and didn’t hit as hard and lindros.
@@ronfroehlich4697 You wouldn't compare Eric Lindros' dominance to that of Sidney Crosby because of the glaring difference. Jaromir Jagr and Mario Lemieux are legends but very different players.
The Stevens hit definitely derailed his career. It’s a shame that injuries took a toll on him, and that he couldn’t finish with the Flyers. Lindros and his family definitely had their faults in the whole mess but I really blame a lot on Clarke. I think his bully mentality, the lack of info on head injuries at that point, and the seeming belief that you weren’t tough if you missed time with injury, all led to the whole situation being poorly handled.
Michael Bartholomew Being a Flyers fan and watching every game of the Lindros era, his career is just a big what if? He was utterly dominant his first 5 years as Lindros and the team were never the same after they were swept by the RedWings in the Finals. He got a concussion from Kasparitis in ‘98, collapsed lung in ‘99, another concussion from Gill in ‘00 and the final blow from Stevens in the ‘00 Conference Finals.
We should have won multiple Cups with a generational talent like Lindros, but never had a goalie, never had a 2nd scoring line, and a Management that was behind the times still drafting muckers and grinders. We’ve made 1 Cup Final since 1997, compared to going to 6 Finals in their first 20 seasons.
@@chrisolivo6591 I agree with your assessment. Although many mark the Stevens hit as the beginning of the end for Lindros, I always felt it happened after Mr. Clarke began to publicly criticize him after the 97 Finals loss. When your employer does that in a public forum, it's bound to have an impact on you. Couple that to the fact that such criticism, aimed at the club's top player was bound to create a lot of tension/drama that his teammates had to deal with and you can easily see why the club never reached its full potential despite being very talented. One of the axioms of leadership is to always produce an environment that allows your players to flourish. Clarke, based on his actions during the era, appeared to be regurgitating the tactics likely employed during the 1970s when he played. Unfortunately, he didn't seem to realize that the times, even in the late 1990s, were beginning to change. I think that if someone like the late Pat Quinn had been in charge of the Flyers during that era, things would have been different for them.
I agree with much of what you said. Clarke has this no fault relationship given him by Snyder and that affects byhe way a G.M. will treat his roster. Eric had some great years and ask me, the Stevens hit was the beginning of the end. Amazing as big and skilled as Eric was, he ALWAYS skates with his head down. And was big moving btarget at that point.
I was there when Stevens crushed him. He was never the same player. Should of played keeping his head up.
You can hear the sadness in Clarke’s voice when he says lindross is no longer on their team
Eric Lindros should of sued the Flyers and the doctors.. they lied about his health and Lindros played and got hit even worse by Scott Stevens.
No. When the doctors and trainers examined Lindros, he told them that he was fine. How the hell were they supposed to know that he had a concussion? They're not mind readers.
Eric chose to return to the lineup. He hadn't fully recovered and if he expected Steven's to not headhunt him after their long history he was naive.
The Flyers should have been sued for what they did to Lindros. He had all the symptoms but he didn’t understand the way concussions effected people. The doctors did but the flyers paid them to shit their mouths and they complied. every dr on that team should no longer be allowed to practice.
and by rob brindamour lol
@@ginodelgobbo9237 he was lied to by the flyers and medical
This wasn't Lindros' fault, it was Bobby Clarke's
Mike Youngblood Bobby Clarke is ignorant. He was also a dirty player and poor sport. I remember when he injured that Russian player that was sickening.
AGREED!!!
@@frankmacomb1223 Bobby Clark played in a different era. He is a very well respected hockey player, and clearly he was absolutely right. Lindros started losing it after those hits, you know that, who's fault was that, Bobby's, or Eric's for not keeping his head up?
BOBBY CLARKE WAS A HACKER COWARD AS A PLAYER, AND A WORSE GM
Jim finally a guy with a brain. No one ever considers the different eras in hockey. Clarke was one of the best flyers in history and one of the best captains in history. Anyone who argues that doesn’t know who Bobby Clarke was as a player and the type of league he played in.
You have to cringe at the length of time he spent with his head down. The problem was growing up, he was a man among boys and did not think about getting hit. Being mentally conditioned to stare down, not glance, set him self up for men in the NHL to demolish him.
2:26 Wow, I never realized that Hasek stopped that puck with his glove. Would it have gone in otherwis?
Oh yeah that was inside the post for sure. Hasek revolutionized the game, his "flopping" unorthodox style is the norm now. It was a pleasure watching him play in person
That was a good move against Hasek in the Olympics.
A goalie flailing his mit while on his back is just a lucky save.
Wrong. Not good enough
It was Hasek tho. Not luck
this is great stuff thank you
10:00 Messiers legs were retired for five years at that press conference. 12:50 guy on the left of Lindros is why the Rags suck for over 40 years.
Of course, had Clarke invested in goalies things would have been different. Goaltending was horrible in that Detroit series
Lindros, you'll be in the building when we finally do it. You're family.
Bobby Clarke almost in tears @8:45
2:52 Keith Jones saved his life
Eric was such a solid player, but he did have a tendency to skate with his head down. If you watch his highlights he's always head down.
I loved the game of the 70s, 80s, and 90s but holy moley if Lindros played today with the Crosby rules and limited high hits the guy would be unstoppable
Mcdavids rules.. Where its illegal to hit the fruit
Crosby rules? Hes got beaten up as much as anybody as still produces.
Great player Lindros he had too many concisions, he couldn't be the same player he was for the Flyers when he came to the Rangers he was done and he kept on coming back after one head trauma after another he's lucky to be healthy and alive, his Brother Bret who played for the Islanders got it worse with too many diggers to the head, well these two guys probably where the forerunner's who brought more attention to concision parodical in all contact sports. Wishing them the best of health...….
Well said
This is quite comical looking back despite it being obvious right away - the Flyers were hosed on this deal.
Bob Clarke was an old broadstreet bully - they probably played with 1/2 an ear hanging off and concussions were probably 'a part of the job' in his mind.
0:46 sick move
Think about if Lindros played in the current era...
He'd be unstoppable. He already nearly was in his prime.
What ??? His fight card sucks ! A hugh man in an NHL where fights were plentiful he was almost absent .
And the few checks he gave were usually dirty .
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No one wanted to fight him. He destroyed the ones who did try.
Apparently you haven't seen him play. Because he hit extremely hard, not dirty. They were on the edge, but not dirty.
@11DNA11 that's right Big E could fight
Bobby, if you had known how contagious and long-term devastating concussions are, would you say that about Eric? More importantly, would YOU have played through those in your time if you had known?
Im sure bobby did play as did most of hockey players in the crazy 70s and 80s.
A great player and era on Flyers hockey. I ne, you can't skate with your head down as fast as the game moved and not expect to be hit. Two Lindros was like Achilles. He played very physical and that style caught up to him. Ultimately with the concussions, his strength became his downfall.
You know, the press always made it sound like lindros was this spoiled brat. All i see is a guy who gave it his all, sacrificed his body over and over, came back from injuries....and never complained until the bitter end. The flyers saying he was making up headaches is awful. To me, he hardly ever says anything bitchy.
Clarke was depressed and sad during that interview when Lindros was traded
Holy nostalgia
Disgusting the way Bob Clarke and the Flyers handled Eric's concussions. Complete ignorance on their part and a refusal even now, all these years later, to admit they didn't know what they were talking about and Lindros' serious brain trauma wasn't "migraine headaches."
disgrace to one of the best players to ever lace up the skates
Jmak would you be interested in selling these on a dvd?
Young Scott Hanson reporting. He is great for Redzone
At least you had Jeremy Roenick. If Terry Murray had stayed or Roger Nielson were hired earlier than he was, the Flyers still lose the 2000 ECF to the Devils. The only difference is that he never gets injured in 1999-2000, until game 7 of the ECF.
As an Avs fan I'm glad they got everything for him
As a Rangers fan I'm glad Lindros was traded away from a poisonous environment in Philly
Talking about dirty players, bobby the(clobber) clarke , was as dirty as they came, my friends. I'm 77 and I remember well.
The players knew what was up. Management failed him.
The greatest Flyer of all time, the great #88.
12:27- Rod Gilbert photobomb
Flyers should give Lindros 2yrs off to learn how keep head up and rest. Then he be back a force.
Clarke did a piss poor job or surrounding Eric with the type of team that could win a Stanley Cup. They never had enough speed or depth on the team and often didn’t protect him the way they should. For a while they had Trent Klatt of all people on a line with Eric. How does that happen? Clarke was living in a bygone era where slow big guys won cups but didn’t adapt to the fact that speed and depth was needed to win a cup. See Colorado and Detroit for examples.
I remember all this and really hate to say but his style of play was the problem. A big strong man and a lot of hitting will catch up to you and not to mention the league didn’t protect their all stars. He was a marked man in the league because of his style of play. Pavel Bure had his career ended also because the league didn’t protect him and had his knee damaged
"Legion of doom" line
crazy that it took the league this long to at least acknowlegde that hits like that dont belong in the game. they still dont do a very good job of handing out discipline, you never know what theyre going to do. hits that should get suspensions dont even get a hearing, and others that arent bad get suspensions. the NHL is still a joke when it comes to officiating. inconsistent garbage night in and night out.
Weird, it is almost as if the hockey gods punished him for bailing on Quebec City. Think about it... He always came up just short of winning. Oh, and that Quebec City team, turned into the Avalanche that won 2 cups. The guy he was traded for (Peter Forsberg) helped them win both. The draft pick he was traded for turned into Jocelyn Thibault, who was then traded for Patrick fucking Roy. So you can hate me all you want for my comment (if you are a big E fan) but the proof is right in front of you! Eric still had a great career, but it could have had more trophies/medals involved.
A true dirtbag that would spear you in the eye for no reason. Glad he never touched the cup. Stevens has three cups💪🏻
Exactly right
I wish Eric would have stayed in Philly. Things might have turned out better for him if he did.
It was much better for Lindros to leave the mess in Philly than risk his life playing for an organization that didn't give a rats ass about his health!
@@wanderer34 I think your being a little dramatic although I wont deny some shady medical practices were happening in Philly for sure. But those were the times. Concussion awareness really didnt get serious until after Eric's injurys/Career, unfortunately.
@@ginodelgobbo9237 the reason why I don’t follow the Flyers like I used to is because the Flyers haven’t been as competitive this century as they was the last century.
The hit by Stevens wasn’t so much the beginning of the end for Lindros, but for the Flyers as an organization. PIT has won 5, TB is on the verge of winning their third straight and the Flyers haven’t really done diddly squat. It’s not hate it is what it is. Sad.
What coulda been?????? Live hard,play hard then fade away.miss my era of hockey.
This is nothing personal against Lindros as he was a competent Ranger when he was healthy, but it goes to show what an idiot Glen Sather was and remains when he doesn't have a Messier or a Gretzky's shoulders to ride on. Lindros had 6 concussions when he arrived in NY. Sadly and tragically he was damaged and everyone - but Sather it seems - knew he was just one hit away from a 7th. In fact, he another 3 during his tenure in NYC. He should have been among the best. But he also should have never played for another team. His body said "no" and he should have listened to his body.
Eric hit everybody on the ice and he was hit a couple of times what he couldn't take. Tiny Kaspariatis finished him off once.
90s hockey is so sad. i wish they had the news we have now
Most of those hits were clean but the Scott Steven's hit was cheap and Bush league. He clearly used an elbow and the rest of the Flyers were too cowardly to respond.
Who?
This dude thought he was bigger then the NHL
No he didn't. The flyers medical care was terrible.
The code in Philly was to never ever cart a player off on a stretcher. It goes against all medical practices and the players have to deal with it afterwards. You all noticed how that bs changed when Ed Snider died.
Stevens was such a punk
Stop skating with your fucking head down! Albeit it looked like some guys were intentionally targeting his head perhaps because they knew he would fold like a cheap suit. But still... Godammit Eric keep your head up.
Bob Clarke was a horrible G.M and the medical staff ignored the concussions...you know Lindros has C.T.E
It is as if the hockey gods punished him for not reporting to Quebec, ends in Philly and plays in games he wouldn't have if he was a Nord/Av. Had he played for Quebec he would have won cups. Hockey gods punished him. Gave him glory but paid for it.
A highway robbery of a trade by the Nordiques for this dude... just Forsberg 1 for 1 was a steal.
IF You live by the sword, you die by the sword. IF your going to go looking for trouble, "who ever you are", Your going to find it. Lindros was a power puff, who found it.
Giuseppe, Salvatore, Dominic and the other rude Philly fans don't deserve a cup. Hee Hee Hee
live by the sword perish by the sword
3:00 The sulky baby at his best. lol
6:10
Why the hell is he shouting everything? Annoying way to present the news.
Legend has it that Lindros got a concussion from shaking Messiers hand.
0:57 . I have no remorse for Lindros being concussed out the league, As for his brother? Thats Karma Jack
It’s not lindros fault philly isn’t a winning city.
And how about that clown, bobby clobber? No wonder the flyers are a failure.
My husband and I were are the Devils/Flyers playoff game when Scott Stevens knocked 88 the fuck out.
We devils fans thought it was LOL funny.
Complaining and whining about the staff , Usual crybaby when things aren't going great for him .
I don't like the fact he is bigger than most players and he plays dirty , And Why is he in the hall of fame ?
Cry baby stuff is such non sense. Lindros haters make no sense. The guy should have been a 1st ballot HOFer easily.
@@integrity101 Remember the Quebec Nordiques , All the fans would wear diapers and suck baby bottles when he played .. Why hall of fame ? He has no awards or accomplishments . No records , No trophy's .
And has never scored 50 goals . He was a bust .
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False. Do some research.
Peter Forsberg NHL PPG 1994-2011 1.250 QUE/COL 1994-2004 PPG 1.278 Eric Lindros 1992-2007 NHL PPG 1.138 PHI 1992-2000 PPG 1.356 PHI/NYR PPG 1992-2002 1.312 Bobby Clarke PHI 1969-1984 PPG 1.058 1971-1980 PPG 1.190
While Bobby Clarke is considered the best player ever to don the orange and black jersey and in his nine year prime, he was arguabl7 the best player in hockey second only to the great Bobby Orr in the 1970's. Fast forward to the 1990's and in the 8-year period from 1992 to 2000, Lindros despite the injuries and concussions, was obviously a better player if you want to consider the PPG average. Yes Lindros didn't have a decent goaltender, and the defense was shaky at best, but as a player, LIndros was just a better player during his prime than even Forsberg despite Forsberg winning two Stanley Cups and Forsberg having more success in the international competitions than Lindros, which is another topic.
In the NHL Lindros according to the PPG especially during his prime years in PHI had 1.356 PPG and even with the NYR still was able to maintain his PPG to 1.312. It was later in his career when the PPG average shifted downward and even then he still maintains an overall NHL PPG average of 1.138. While it's not higher than Forsberg's average, it's still higher than Clarke's, who had more help with Bernie Parent in the net, and the most feared goon squad during their time (Schultz, Kelly, Saleski, and Dupont).
All I'm saying is that had Lindros been mostly healthy and had Lindros had a better goaltender and even enforcers, I'm pretty sure he would've had a much higher PPG average. As of this writing, only Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, Orr had higher PPG average than Lindros and even the new kid from EDM, McDavid. He also has more hat tricks than Clarke in his career (13 including 11 with the Flyers over Clarke's 5; only Tim Kerr has more with 17). Once again, Clarke may be considered the best player on the Flyers, but during his time on the ice, Lindros was better in his eight years with PHI than Clarke was during his prime from 1971-1980 and especially in his career!!!
He hit hard until Stevens hit him hard
Blindsided lindros, but hey, that was stevens trademark... cheapshotting hes way through.
what's worse is the league encouraged it
Over rated kid. The mother was doing the deals...
i HATE scott stevens