5:00 As a German who grew up with lots of WW2 Veterans in the Family (only one still alive right now turned 105 in September of this Year!) I really appreciate the Story of his Pediatrician who was a Veteran in the Crimea Pocket. And when John Keene mentioned that he was the only one of his Unit getting out alive because he got wounded i was not surprised at all. Veterans who survived that Pocket received the "Krim-Schild" (Crimea Shield) for their Uniform which of course wasn't really something any Veterans cared about after that Experience. I myself got to meet a lot of American WW2 Veterans who attended the German WW2 Veteran Meetings here in Germany every now and then and had Beers and BBQ together and i'm glad there have been a lot of German Veterans who continued their Life in the USA and got to meet and talk with Americans and vice versa! Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Makes sense. I imagine the Crimea and Courland veterans weren't particularly happy about their experiences. Either got evacuated as wounded before they were sealed off, or got the joy of a decade in the gulag while watching half your buddies die. To say nothing of no one appreciating their service after the fact either. German male born between 1890-1930 is a rough lot in life.
@@TheTrueNorth11I don't think there's been one for a minute. I don't remember when I asked the question that got in at 18:30. He's probably been busy with recording videos, writing books, or personal stuff.
I have spent a lot of time firing MG42's and MG3's and the best answer I can give someone as to why a higher cyclic rate is better is they were utilized very differently than their allied counterparts. MG42/3 is meant to be fired in short bursts. At 400 meters a 1/2 second burst from that GPMG will usually land 3-5 rounds on target. With a US 1919 you're essentially spraying the target the entire time to land shots. Long ridiculous MG42 rips you see in movies are not how these weapons were used in combat, they were burst fired. That is also the Germany doctrine to this day. Have you seen the "It's a machinegun!" meme video? That's a Bundeswehr soldier bursting the M2HB because that's how he was trained to fire his MG3. Doctrinal differences.
My father as a teenager, ended up with owning a Bren, Sten & MP-40 in the 1950's. But living in England, they were already outlawed and there was of course no ammo available for these. Not much fun to be had. He (my father) told me that he swapped them for an electric guitar, amplifier and a really decent Weihrauch spring .177 air rifle. I think that is a good trade for the time.
Another thing that would suddenly enter the market if the registry was reopened is full auto AKs. I've met several vets who brought back an AK from Vietnam or the Middle East and are risking jail time just by having them.
Knob Creek no longer being around has definitely affected the community. I went to it at least once a year every year I could and for many year’s running multiple times. It was definitely the place for someone getting into the hobby to meet people and form friendships. Not to mention find parts, items, and ammo to buy in person.
Anyone in the New England area looking for a replacement Knob Creek should consider trying to reserve a spot at the Green Mountain Boys Machine Gun Shoot at Camp David in Eden, VT. This happens one a year, third weekend in July. Camping spots are available. Food vendor on site. First responders are also immediately on site as well.
My copy of Small Arms of WWII arrived today! Ian, you and James did an absolutely fantastic job. I can’t wait to see the next addition to the series. All the best to you, sir!
John Keene has it spot on for You Carry it and I only know I talked to a guy who had the semi auto that I thought was close to perfect due to its ergonomics (Robinson Arms XCR). He had an ACR but he longed for his M-16 he had in Vietnam. It was light and it was easy to carry and that is all he cared about. XCR he was happy as a bench gun but it was heavier and the weight was forward.
I would have no doubt it is. It makes no sense for them to even be on the DD registry any longer as ammo for them has not been made in 80 years...lol The British PIAT was taken off a number of years ago for a number of reasons - lack of ammo supply as well as the firing system being among the reasons...
Y'all clean forgot about the ability of the M85 machine gun to switch between high and low rates of fire. By doctrine low rate was for use against ground targets, high rate was anti-aircraft. A gun much "loved" by a generation of tankers who only had the M73 to compare it against.
Love your Q&As Ian! Always interesting guests and questions, really hope we see more of them! The repeat guests are great too, always a treat seeing John Keene or Nick Moran on the channel.
Remember when reenactor groups in the UK had 20 or so sten guns and mp40s and they all worked... now.. maybe a few deactivated... miss smgs truelly an enabling weapon type..
@davidspence5567 Not really.. at times they opted for fire superiority and upped the brens to 2 and then 4 per section in some Korean actions... but even in ww2 the bren gunner and his loader were like the piat 2 man team... the section was very much more flexible and didn't just rely of winning the mg fight..
I love these videos with John. My family has a lot of history with machine guns so it’s always really fun to hear a conversational type of Q&A about the subject.
They pulled the same tax stamp trick with weed not long after, you had to take your bit to the shop to be weighed to then pay for your tax but " oops no stamps left" quick call to the cops and then your done for tax evasion, dirty af but genius work around
Yes, but people like John who actually WAS a machine gunner typically prefer to hit their target rather than shoot around it. The point is that they would generally prefer to create their own beaten zone rather than it being an artifact of an inaccurate weapon/ammo combination. Ironically, the classic US Army training movie that shows how the WWII German machine guns compare to the US ones makes a big point of the reduced dispersion of the American weapons. It is funny in retrospect since even in the worst case, each person would have been hit several times. It was supposed to reassure the US GI but I doubt the thought of ONLY being hit 3 or 4 times made them feel better about it.
Cool to see the man behind the Remington-keene rifle, one of my favorite odd weapons from the old west. He looks pretty young too for a person that lived more than 150 years
Its really crazy that there is no way for a law abiding citizen to register a machine gun he finds in his grandfather's attic. Any other item you get from your grandparents is yours to keep but a machine gun has to be turned over to the ATF so they can destroy it.
I do have to wonder if the ATF has a record of all “properly registered” transferable machine-guns, and won’t allow any more to be added. Like say someone inherits an old car and finds a pile of forgotten Thompson SMGs in their original crates in the trunk.
That is exactly the case. They discuss in this video the possibility of an amnesty period whereby someone who owns a Pre-86 but not transferable MG (a car full of Thompsons) could submit their guns to the registry and have transferable MGs.
Incredible topic! Thank you. PS - Fortune just publish a short article with photograph - Brand-New Ukrainian Drone Blasted A Russian Machine Gun From 1910 - The M1910 had a Finnish modification (based on picture included) which dates it as a 1943 build
MG 42 was 'modern GPMG' portable, rapidly changed barrel without taking gun out of firing position. GIs hated it because high rate of fire made let it hit more men with the initial burst. Since U.S. was usually advancing, most engagements were ambushes/ Germans shooting from defensive positions. U.S. leaders were not as impressed since in the attack you want fire suppression which is better for slower fire gun.
I don't collect neither guns nor guitars, but I think some of the "I want them to go to someone who appreciates them" talk is not about the money, but that they don't just let them sit on display. Both guns and guitars are made to be used, and I would imagine in one case the wish is for it to be used and taken to the range, and in the other case to be played rather than being another collectible collecting dust till the next owner comes along.
Maybe I've missed the video but have you ever been to see Dragon Man Ian? I can think of reasons why you definitely wouldn't....but on the other hand he does seem to have an incredible collection of firearms and militaria.
Shotguns do have more range then people think but even a semiauto 12 gauge or a 3 1/2” 10 gauge with 18 pellets of 00 buck might not be enough to reliability take out multiple suicide drones. Single or low flying drones sure but you’d need at least a punt gun or small bore auto cannon shooting flak shells. That’s assuming you can spot them in time
He says there's three categories people: collector, speculator, investor. If the registry are open today though there would be at least two more categories, casual hobbyist and serious trainer, probably also there would be something like clueless prepper as well.
It never ceases to amaze me. There are so many rule makers who are under the induced delusional thinking that a 50 cal shot gun slug traveling at subsonic speed leaving the barrel at subsonic speed is the same thing as a military round traveling multiple times the speed of sound. One is very different from the other in that one will take down some old walls and can even kill anything near (the shockwave turning most organic matter to Jell-O) in its path of it passes and the other small stone being slung from a good sling shot. . Is it very unlike a stone or heavy minerals falling from the space station?
When you take parts from a special type of Machine, Gun as long as keep all the original parts, then you get the best if both worlds, a special type and the original weapon you can fire both.
@christophersilsby7829 Your comment sound like FJB reading the teleprompter at the wh!teh0use.🤔 WTF does that even mean bro, please translate it from b!den gibberish dementia talk.🤷
As far as Knob Creek… there are a lot of ranges that offer an opportunity to shoot machine guns in Las Vegas, and many other vacation destinations. Its expensive, but it was expensive at Knob Creek too… That doesnt answer the question of buying or selling and finding parts…
A couple of guns not mentioned as a good "first mg" are the M2 Carbine and the MK2 Sten. The Mod76 S&W was mentioned as a good gun to start with, but spare mags are difficult to find...
I have a Reising and I would not recommend it as an entry level MG. Mine has taken a LOT of effort to get it working properly and there are still issues. When it runs, it runs well and is great to shoot but it wasn't a great design for durability and reliability.
The mg42 was a suppressive weapon used for area effect which meant you were heavily encouraged to shelter from it.. this it had a very good defensive ability... and a reasonable offensive one... the German method of employment where a squad was formed on the machine gun also made it more highlighted... other armies did not place so much in one basket and the British were happy to use a 2 inch mortar chap to inflict casualties along with many other options..
I'd say that if there is any tikkakoski m/44's transferable those are the ones to look at. In Finland we have lot parts for guns but not so much opportunities to have one because our cursed gun laws
I have been told because I can not backup my information on a picture I seen in a series on photos of world war 2, the one that I am talking about is a photograph taken of the French coast, from the dock above this landing craft, which was half full of small arms, the caption of the photograph says that these were dumped in the see. And later on in the series was a similar thing in the Pacific Theater doing the same thing
I have read, or been told that the MG-42, even in the assault, was still largely employed in a two or three man team. This came down to doctrine and practicality. Once you factor in the trained rate of fire, the 42 and the M1919 were on an even footing. Yes, the MG-42 had the higher rate of fire, but the German squads weren't trained to fire for more than five or six rounds at a time.
Any machine gun ideally has a multiple man team servicing it. The fact of the matter is though that the MG 34 & 42 were infinitely more ergonomic, easy to carry, and use by a single operator than the 1919A6. It's just a latent benefit of having a modern, purpose built GPMG issued to troops in lieu of an old WWI-era medium MG that was awkwardly pressed into service as a squad machine gun.
German guns were in a way widely studied and adopted. CETME Ameli is based on the Mg42/45 ... kind of You can track the Mauser Gerät 06H to the CEAM Modèle 1950 and track that to the Heckler & Koch G3 FN FAL was desinged to fire the 7.92×33mm Kurz developed by the Germans in WW2 The famous M60 is a weird love child of the MG42 and the FG42. Sturmgewehr 52 was inspired by the FG 42 as well
You both brought up a good point about machine gun events. Or more accurately, the lack there of! I live in Arizona like you. This is a fairly pro-gun state. Why don’t we try to start up a machine gun meet/shoot? Seems like Ben Avery (in Phoenix) would be a great location for such an event. It’s big, lots of motels, food, etc….. What are your thoughts on this. I’m poor and live in the middle of nowhere. You have the contacts to make this happen.
So had the US adopted the .30-06 in a shorter form (for example 7.62x55mm instead of 7.62x63mm) the T24 could've been more successful as there would've been no problem with the .30-06 being too long to work with the MG42 receiver without considerable redesign of the receiver. I wonder if 7.62x51mm NATO would even exist if .30-06 had been adopted in the form of 7.62x55mm instead of 7.62x63mm?
I read several years ago, before the net back in the 1980's, that one of the design criteria came out of German experiences on the Eastern Front in 1941. On the really basically flat terrain they would see Soviet infantry massing 2,000 meters away. So the intent of the MG-42 was to put a pattern of bullets out that far. Like a 2,000 meter shotgun. Any truth to that? No 35-40 yeas later don't remember where I read that. It just stuck in my head afterwards. Were machineguns are going to go is always more expensive and more rare. Because due to the 1986 Hughes Amendment there can NEVER be new build guns on the civilian market So the only machineguns we can have are those that existed and were registered on a particular date in 1986. And that set of available guns absent a time machine is only so large and is NEVER going to grow under current law. If the NFA and the GCA and the Hughes Amendment are ever overturned this will change.
The high rate of fire was an evolution born from the German infantry doctrine which was built around the MG. The MG was the principle weapon of the squad and the riflemen were there to support that weapon. That initial burst from the MG was intended to eliminate as many of the enemy as possible, hence the high rate of fire. Military History Visualized has great animations on the subject of infantry doctrine.
That was enlightening - I always thought the US MG42 copy was every single part made new by a machine shop but I guess there was no practical reason to do that.
If I recall right, the ejection port was enlarged and, on paper, large enough for the US 30-06, but the case would sometimes bounce foreward and cause a jam. It is the kind of thing that could have been fixed given time and effort. Like they mentioned in this video, not much effort was put into the project. If you watch a machine gun in slow motion, not all of the cases eject exactly the same way.
You're talking about entry level MGs, and you don't talk about the Sten sitting in front of you? I just got 10 mags with two British mag pouches at an auction for $34 BP and tax included. MP-40s are 20K with $100+ mags. Great guns, one might be my next, but I'm not sure it's a beginner gun any more.
on the m1919a6, was it possible to add a quick change barrel to it?. I know the M2 .50cal has a quick change barrel and it is the same gun just scaled up for a bigger bullet. Was no quick change barrel added because of American doctrine? we know that the Belgians put a quick change barrel on their BAR and also Colt did sell BAR with quick change barrels on the military market.
My Dad was issued a Riesing in the Pacific and he HATED IT! If you said the name he would start cursing it. He loved the M1, Adored the Springfield and liked the Thompson but he had nothing good to say about the Riesing.
5:00 As a German who grew up with lots of WW2 Veterans in the Family (only one still alive right now turned 105 in September of this Year!) I really appreciate the Story of his Pediatrician who was a Veteran in the Crimea Pocket. And when John Keene mentioned that he was the only one of his Unit getting out alive because he got wounded i was not surprised at all. Veterans who survived that Pocket received the "Krim-Schild" (Crimea Shield) for their Uniform which of course wasn't really something any Veterans cared about after that Experience.
I myself got to meet a lot of American WW2 Veterans who attended the German WW2 Veteran Meetings here in Germany every now and then and had Beers and BBQ together and i'm glad there have been a lot of German Veterans who continued their Life in the USA and got to meet and talk with Americans and vice versa!
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Makes sense. I imagine the Crimea and Courland veterans weren't particularly happy about their experiences. Either got evacuated as wounded before they were sealed off, or got the joy of a decade in the gulag while watching half your buddies die. To say nothing of no one appreciating their service after the fact either. German male born between 1890-1930 is a rough lot in life.
@@_ArsNova I wonder why nobody appreciated their service.
Just to throw my two cents in, I miss having more of the longform Q&A’s. Solo or with a guest.
Amen
I miss Q&As - keep them coming!
Same, hope the make a return to their old schedule.
@@fire_towerPatreon only I believe.
Maybe HoW&W now.
@@TheTrueNorth11I'm on patreon too
@@fire_tower Do all the Q&A vids get posted there?
@@TheTrueNorth11I don't think there's been one for a minute. I don't remember when I asked the question that got in at 18:30. He's probably been busy with recording videos, writing books, or personal stuff.
John is a really good guest, hopefully you'll do more of these Q&As with him.
It's always nice to see two people who are enthusiastic and knowledgeable about a subject just ping pong off each others knowledge.
Of all of your guests Mr. Keene is the most appreciated. Calm, intelligent narration. Glad, he's back
If the registry was opened to new manufactured guns, every man and his dog would want an AR15 full auto receiver.
Dog, cat, bird, hamster, rabbit, even my cordless drill gets one.
Yeah I'll take an extra for my dog
Whereas currently, your dog definitely does not want you to acquire a full auto AR-15
Yes that's the spirit 😆 of 1776.
My dogs are pro 2nd Amendment so they'd encourage select fire weapons ownership.
I have spent a lot of time firing MG42's and MG3's and the best answer I can give someone as to why a higher cyclic rate is better is they were utilized very differently than their allied counterparts. MG42/3 is meant to be fired in short bursts. At 400 meters a 1/2 second burst from that GPMG will usually land 3-5 rounds on target. With a US 1919 you're essentially spraying the target the entire time to land shots. Long ridiculous MG42 rips you see in movies are not how these weapons were used in combat, they were burst fired. That is also the Germany doctrine to this day. Have you seen the "It's a machinegun!" meme video? That's a Bundeswehr soldier bursting the M2HB because that's how he was trained to fire his MG3. Doctrinal differences.
My father as a teenager, ended up with owning a Bren, Sten & MP-40 in the 1950's. But living in England, they were already outlawed and there was of course no ammo available for these. Not much fun to be had. He (my father) told me that he swapped them for an electric guitar, amplifier and a really decent Weihrauch spring .177 air rifle. I think that is a good trade for the time.
Another thing that would suddenly enter the market if the registry was reopened is full auto AKs. I've met several vets who brought back an AK from Vietnam or the Middle East and are risking jail time just by having them.
Do they run a dog shelter?
...As all Americans should the restrictions are clearly illegal by the constitution.
Knob Creek no longer being around has definitely affected the community. I went to it at least once a year every year I could and for many year’s running multiple times. It was definitely the place for someone getting into the hobby to meet people and form friendships. Not to mention find parts, items, and ammo to buy in person.
It was a shock to me when I was at Knob Creek's last shoot n show. I shot there regularly 91-95 and would try to get to the full Auto events.
Anyone in the New England area looking for a replacement Knob Creek should consider trying to reserve a spot at the Green Mountain Boys Machine Gun Shoot at Camp David in Eden, VT. This happens one a year, third weekend in July. Camping spots are available. Food vendor on site. First responders are also immediately on site as well.
I need more “affordable” machine guns rated “pretty slick” so I know what to buy next!
It would be interesting to see how little one could possibly cost, perhaps a video of the most affordable transfers🤔
I think that so called "stemple" line of SMG's are both affordable and slick. Check Ian's documents about Stemples
The trouble with that is, if it's "affordable" and mentioned on this channel, it no longer will be.
I love when John is your guest. Real knowledge from a legit source
My copy of Small Arms of WWII arrived today! Ian, you and James did an absolutely fantastic job. I can’t wait to see the next addition to the series. All the best to you, sir!
John Keene has it spot on for You Carry it and I only know I talked to a guy who had the semi auto that I thought was close to perfect due to its ergonomics (Robinson Arms XCR). He had an ACR but he longed for his M-16 he had in Vietnam. It was light and it was easy to carry and that is all he cared about. XCR he was happy as a bench gun but it was heavier and the weight was forward.
Surely it has to be easier to find a deactivated PanzerSchrek for a display piece than having to find a live transferrable one? That's nuts.
I would have no doubt it is. It makes no sense for them to even be on the DD registry any longer as ammo for them has not been made in 80 years...lol The British PIAT was taken off a number of years ago for a number of reasons - lack of ammo supply as well as the firing system being among the reasons...
Reminds me of evenings when my Dad and my Uncle Ted would talk about weapons. Both were WW2 and Korea Vets.
Y'all clean forgot about the ability of the M85 machine gun to switch between high and low rates of fire. By doctrine low rate was for use against ground targets, high rate was anti-aircraft. A gun much "loved" by a generation of tankers who only had the M73 to compare it against.
Love your Q&As Ian! Always interesting guests and questions, really hope we see more of them! The repeat guests are great too, always a treat seeing John Keene or Nick Moran on the channel.
These deeper conversations are wonderful.
Remember when reenactor groups in the UK had 20 or so sten guns and mp40s and they all worked... now.. maybe a few deactivated... miss smgs truelly an enabling weapon type..
Actually British Army Section s were Built around Bren Guns like German ones around MG 34s/42s...
@davidspence5567
Not really.. at times they opted for fire superiority and upped the brens to 2 and then 4 per section in some Korean actions... but even in ww2 the bren gunner and his loader were like the piat 2 man team... the section was very much more flexible and didn't just rely of winning the mg fight..
The person who destroyed that panzerschrek should be ashamed
Maybe it was a Veteran Sherman Tank driver.
If we could build our own full autos like prior to 1986 we wouldn't have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for those old guns..
These interviews are always fascinating, and SO much fun. Thanks!
A sorted reising with a mess of 20 round mags is a great beginner subgun.
I love these videos with John. My family has a lot of history with machine guns so it’s always really fun to hear a conversational type of Q&A about the subject.
Ian I see that Type 100, please tell me this means the video on it is finally coming.
They pulled the same tax stamp trick with weed not long after, you had to take your bit to the shop to be weighed to then pay for your tax but " oops no stamps left" quick call to the cops and then your done for tax evasion, dirty af but genius work around
Good ole marijuana tax act …. Supreme Court rules in Timothy Leary’s favor
Ian pulling no punches here, this is the fifth consecutive daily upload. Nice!
Sessions with John are always fantastic.
Q&As with John are always so interesting and well rounded covering many areas of collecting weather it be technical or social factors. 10/10
Suppressing fire into a beaten zone is still part of the army doctrine for a reason. IT WORKS.
Yes, but people like John who actually WAS a machine gunner typically prefer to hit their target rather than shoot around it. The point is that they would generally prefer to create their own beaten zone rather than it being an artifact of an inaccurate weapon/ammo combination.
Ironically, the classic US Army training movie that shows how the WWII German machine guns compare to the US ones makes a big point of the reduced dispersion of the American weapons. It is funny in retrospect since even in the worst case, each person would have been hit several times. It was supposed to reassure the US GI but I doubt the thought of ONLY being hit 3 or 4 times made them feel better about it.
@jfess1911 that is your assumption showing thorough, clearly you never severed or used a machine gun or had to control the use of one, I did.
One example of a German firearms engineer who was scooped up by the US was Ott-Helmuth von Lossnitzer, whose book Ian has reviewed before.
We all love you Ian 😊😊😊😊😊
been waiting for a longer video for Awhile thanks !
Cool to see the man behind the Remington-keene rifle, one of my favorite odd weapons from the old west.
He looks pretty young too for a person that lived more than 150 years
YES I missed the long-style of Q&A video :)
The Hughes amendment needs to be abolished.
Right before the NFA.
Absolutely
NFA is such an absurdly poorly written law I'm baffled that it was never tossed out by the courts. Rigged system.
Its really crazy that there is no way for a law abiding citizen to register a machine gun he finds in his grandfather's attic. Any other item you get from your grandparents is yours to keep but a machine gun has to be turned over to the ATF so they can destroy it.
#freedom #tyranny
It doesn’t HAVE to be… that’s just one possible scenario. There are also scenarios where it “disappears”… and nobody ever calls the ATF
@BudGreene87 hello my friend , I too love Freedom, and Our Natural Rights. Hell yes
Sank with grandpas boat
I often say this about military equipment, but if professional hikers were selecting weapons and gear they'd pick the ones that weigh the least.
Hey ian, a small critism I have is that your guest is a tad quiet. Besides that amazing video
I do have to wonder if the ATF has a record of all “properly registered” transferable machine-guns, and won’t allow any more to be added. Like say someone inherits an old car and finds a pile of forgotten Thompson SMGs in their original crates in the trunk.
That is exactly the case. They discuss in this video the possibility of an amnesty period whereby someone who owns a Pre-86 but not transferable MG (a car full of Thompsons) could submit their guns to the registry and have transferable MGs.
The Salt mines of Soledar!
The registration is linked to the name of the registered owner.
If you cant identify the registered owner and document legal transfer you are screwed.
Just don't say anything lol
I know I'd have an American 180
>Colt Balloon Gun chambered in .458 win mag
Never have I wanted something so impractical, so much
Incredible topic! Thank you.
PS - Fortune just publish a short article with photograph - Brand-New Ukrainian Drone Blasted A Russian Machine Gun From 1910 -
The M1910 had a Finnish modification (based on picture included) which dates it as a 1943 build
???? Pruf
Look up story and examine photo and the analysis for yourself.
@@williamlloyd3769 your subscription interests me little. you better provide evidence in the form of documents or links
Always enjoy your interviews with John
Im staring at that type 100 in the background
So long since the latest Q&A! 😃
Another great chat! Can't believe you didn't remember the Fiat 1914 machine gun when you mentioned stupid feeding devices that didn't last long 😅
Wait hey that Firetower guy sounds familiar! 18:30
Ho Ho Ho
…now I have a Masheeen Gun
Excellent conversation and information!
Your point about what works on paper vs what works in reality is so incredibly important. The SA80 worked great on paper…..
and h&k made it work in reality.
MG 42 was 'modern GPMG' portable, rapidly changed barrel without taking gun out of firing position. GIs hated it because high rate of fire made let it hit more men with the initial burst. Since U.S. was usually advancing, most engagements were ambushes/ Germans shooting from defensive positions. U.S. leaders were not as impressed since in the attack you want fire suppression which is better for slower fire gun.
Always a fun chat. Thanks.
I don't collect neither guns nor guitars, but I think some of the "I want them to go to someone who appreciates them" talk is not about the money, but that they don't just let them sit on display. Both guns and guitars are made to be used, and I would imagine in one case the wish is for it to be used and taken to the range, and in the other case to be played rather than being another collectible collecting dust till the next owner comes along.
Excellent interview.
Maybe I've missed the video but have you ever been to see Dragon Man Ian? I can think of reasons why you definitely wouldn't....but on the other hand he does seem to have an incredible collection of firearms and militaria.
MAT 49, is that the one the THE VEITMIN changed to 7.62x25mm.
Increased use of drones could result in increased use of shotguns in modern warfare.
For bird hunting you gotta be within 50 yards or so. Maybe that could be stretched out to 60 or 70 but my understanding is drones fly higher
Belt fed shotgun
Shotguns do have more range then people think but even a semiauto 12 gauge or a 3 1/2” 10 gauge with 18 pellets of 00 buck might not be enough to reliability take out multiple suicide drones. Single or low flying drones sure but you’d need at least a punt gun or small bore auto cannon shooting flak shells. That’s assuming you can spot them in time
@@paulw7316
Based on the footage I have seen lately, by time you see it coming, you are dead.
@@lathanchurch8352So 40k ripper guns?
Absolutely love this content!
Here's a question, why can't we the People have the same muskets that the redcoats carry🤔??
Here is the Answer: we can! I am not a lawyer
@@stefanmolnapor910 only if you have a shitload of Extra money can you fully express your God given 2nd amendment Right. And I'm not a lawyer.
@toxicresidue not if you think like the Men that created this nation!
He says there's three categories people: collector, speculator, investor. If the registry are open today though there would be at least two more categories, casual hobbyist and serious trainer, probably also there would be something like clueless prepper as well.
This is the best video you have done in a long time Ian. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Stop bashing my Hotchkiss Portative!!!! Lol😂
Great Info thank you John , Great Stuff 💯 Thank's Ian 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
It never ceases to amaze me. There are so many rule makers who are under the induced delusional thinking that a 50 cal shot gun slug traveling at subsonic speed leaving the barrel at subsonic speed is the same thing as a military round traveling multiple times the speed of sound. One is very different from the other in that one will take down some old walls and can even kill anything near (the shockwave turning most organic matter to Jell-O) in its path of it passes and the other small stone being slung from a good sling shot. .
Is it very unlike a stone or heavy minerals falling from the space station?
Awesome content. Thank you
When you take parts from a special type of Machine, Gun as long as keep all the original parts, then you get the best if both worlds, a special type and the original weapon you can fire both.
@christophersilsby7829 Your comment sound like FJB reading the teleprompter at the wh!teh0use.🤔 WTF does that even mean bro, please translate it from b!den gibberish dementia talk.🤷
Type 100 SMG back there?
heck, you guys can talk all day as far as I care, cool stuff
Anybody gotten a shipping notification for the WWII US small arms book?
As far as Knob Creek… there are a lot of ranges that offer an opportunity to shoot machine guns in Las Vegas, and many other vacation destinations.
Its expensive, but it was expensive at Knob Creek too…
That doesnt answer the question of buying or selling and finding parts…
The two Thompsons on the the table were the best part of this video.
A joke I hope not a Thompson in that room.
A couple of guns not mentioned as a good "first mg" are the M2 Carbine and the MK2 Sten. The Mod76 S&W was mentioned as a good gun to start with, but spare mags are difficult to find...
I essentially converted a semi 1919A4 to a 1919A6… it’s not good. It’s heavy AF 🤣
I have a Reising and I would not recommend it as an entry level MG. Mine has taken a LOT of effort to get it working properly and there are still issues. When it runs, it runs well and is great to shoot but it wasn't a great design for durability and reliability.
The mg42 was a suppressive weapon used for area effect which meant you were heavily encouraged to shelter from it.. this it had a very good defensive ability... and a reasonable offensive one... the German method of employment where a squad was formed on the machine gun also made it more highlighted... other armies did not place so much in one basket and the British were happy to use a 2 inch mortar chap to inflict casualties along with many other options..
That Mac 11 is still in reach ❤😂
Great interview!
I think it'll be worth it to invest in proper sound equipment. It'll make the listening experience a lot more enjoyable.
I'd say that if there is any tikkakoski m/44's transferable those are the ones to look at. In Finland we have lot parts for guns but not so much opportunities to have one because our cursed gun laws
I have been told because I can not backup my information on a picture I seen in a series on photos of world war 2, the one that I am talking about is a photograph taken of the French coast, from the dock above this landing craft, which was half full of small arms, the caption of the photograph says that these were dumped in the see. And later on in the series was a similar thing in the Pacific Theater doing the same thing
I have read, or been told that the MG-42, even in the assault, was still largely employed in a two or three man team. This came down to doctrine and practicality. Once you factor in the trained rate of fire, the 42 and the M1919 were on an even footing. Yes, the MG-42 had the higher rate of fire, but the German squads weren't trained to fire for more than five or six rounds at a time.
Any machine gun ideally has a multiple man team servicing it. The fact of the matter is though that the MG 34 & 42 were infinitely more ergonomic, easy to carry, and use by a single operator than the 1919A6. It's just a latent benefit of having a modern, purpose built GPMG issued to troops in lieu of an old WWI-era medium MG that was awkwardly pressed into service as a squad machine gun.
The 1919 wasn't even squad level issue so you might be stuck with just the BAR...
Thanks
Nice Q&A!
Is that a Japanese Type-100 against the wall?
Casually has a Type 100 in the background
German guns were in a way widely studied and adopted.
CETME Ameli is based on the Mg42/45 ... kind of
You can track the Mauser Gerät 06H to the CEAM Modèle 1950 and track that to the Heckler & Koch G3
FN FAL was desinged to fire the 7.92×33mm Kurz developed by the Germans in WW2
The famous M60 is a weird love child of the MG42 and the FG42.
Sturmgewehr 52 was inspired by the FG 42 as well
You both brought up a good point about machine gun events. Or more accurately, the lack there of! I live in Arizona like you. This is a fairly pro-gun state. Why don’t we try to start up a machine gun meet/shoot? Seems like Ben Avery (in Phoenix) would be a great location for such an event. It’s big, lots of motels, food, etc….. What are your thoughts on this. I’m poor and live in the middle of nowhere. You have the contacts to make this happen.
PS. I forgot RV parks and/or campgrounds!
Awsome episode
I would imagine cloth belts are one of the, if not the, easiest parts to reproduce? Perhaps even home-make?
So had the US adopted the .30-06 in a shorter form (for example 7.62x55mm instead of 7.62x63mm) the T24 could've been more successful as there would've been no problem with the .30-06 being too long to work with the MG42 receiver without considerable redesign of the receiver. I wonder if 7.62x51mm NATO would even exist if .30-06 had been adopted in the form of 7.62x55mm instead of 7.62x63mm?
I read several years ago, before the net back in the 1980's, that one of the design criteria came out of German experiences on the Eastern Front in 1941. On the really basically flat terrain they would see Soviet infantry massing 2,000 meters away. So the intent of the MG-42 was to put a pattern of bullets out that far. Like a 2,000 meter shotgun. Any truth to that? No 35-40 yeas later don't remember where I read that. It just stuck in my head afterwards.
Were machineguns are going to go is always more expensive and more rare. Because due to the 1986 Hughes Amendment there can NEVER be new build guns on the civilian market So the only machineguns we can have are those that existed and were registered on a particular date in 1986. And that set of available guns absent a time machine is only so large and is NEVER going to grow under current law.
If the NFA and the GCA and the Hughes Amendment are ever overturned this will change.
The high rate of fire was an evolution born from the German infantry doctrine which was built around the MG. The MG was the principle weapon of the squad and the riflemen were there to support that weapon. That initial burst from the MG was intended to eliminate as many of the enemy as possible, hence the high rate of fire. Military History Visualized has great animations on the subject of infantry doctrine.
does Mr. Keene have social Media? i think content about his collection would be very interesting!
The Stemple is a great entry machine gun.
That was enlightening - I always thought the US MG42 copy was every single part made new by a machine shop but I guess there was no practical reason to do that.
If I recall right, the ejection port was enlarged and, on paper, large enough for the US 30-06, but the case would sometimes bounce foreward and cause a jam. It is the kind of thing that could have been fixed given time and effort. Like they mentioned in this video, not much effort was put into the project.
If you watch a machine gun in slow motion, not all of the cases eject exactly the same way.
You're talking about entry level MGs, and you don't talk about the Sten sitting in front of you? I just got 10 mags with two British mag pouches at an auction for $34 BP and tax included. MP-40s are 20K with $100+ mags. Great guns, one might be my next, but I'm not sure it's a beginner gun any more.
on the m1919a6, was it possible to add a quick change barrel to it?. I know the M2 .50cal has a quick change barrel and it is the same gun just scaled up for a bigger bullet. Was no quick change barrel added because of American doctrine? we know that the Belgians put a quick change barrel on their BAR and also Colt did sell BAR with quick change barrels on the military market.
One Scorpion Evo 3, please.
My Dad was issued a Riesing in the Pacific and he HATED IT! If you said the name he would start cursing it. He loved the M1, Adored the Springfield and liked the Thompson but he had nothing good to say about the Riesing.
.458 win mag vickers?!
If there's a chance to video a 45-70 vickers do it!
Speaking of the maxim silencer company. How many people have seen a snowblower they made?