How Many Continents are There? Map Men Explain | Thoughts + Commentary
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- Map Men explain how many continents there are and the answer is...? Plus a literary and music recommendation(s).
Original Video: • How many continents ar...
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LITERARY RECOMMENDATION:
Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh (paperback): amzn.to/4aUuvzZ
Brideshead Revisited (FREE Jeremy Irons read audiobook): • Brideshead Revisited ...
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MUSIC RECOMMENDATION:
Common People by Pulp: • Pulp - Common People
Morning Shift by Patrick Holland: • Morning Shift
Being Norwegian, I wanted to translate the Norwegian (and Swedish, since they're the same phrase) in the video. It says "Don't eat this. If you eat it by accident, contact a doctor."
As for continents, I think we were taught there were 7 continents in Norway. I think we are also taught that it's called Oceania and not Australia. Personally, I prefer Oceania since it doesn't confuse the country with the continent.
Ah yes.. my favorite reaction channel uploaded again
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@@NoProtocol Ah yes.. my favourite - with an appropriate 'u' - beautiful woman again. Just a minor and very small but necessary criticism. I think I heard you say "a song without lyrics" There's no such thing despite what USA born media might tell you. Please don't anyone say "what about Mendelssohn then?" His 'Songs Without Words' were written for a specific purpose. Other than that, I love your reactions❤.
No stupid intro, no begging for likes and subscriptions, straight to the point! I like it! And the fact this young lady is pretty damn smart, openminded, literate, curious... Not bad looking, too if I may say so. BTW, very nice, calm voice!
really enjoy mapmen and your comments on their videos are more thought provoking than other reactors I've seen, I'd love for you to keep doing reactions to them
These guys are hilarious!!! THANK you for introducing them to us!!
Congratulations on 100k! 😊
Thank you!
In Sweden we make distinction between continent and "världsdel" (world part), the latter which is understood to be more of a cultural or political boundary than geographical. I'm sure we are not alone in this.
Dutch have the same terms to point out the differences, 5 (some argue 6) continents, 7 wereldelen (world parts).
Chilean here, when I was in first grade (2001) we were taught that there were five continents: Africa, America, Asia, Europe and Oceania; with three sub continents, North, Central and South America and the Indian Sub continent. Years later, around 2008 it change to six, adding Antarctica to the list
The fact that Europe and Asia awere taught as distinct continents whereas North and South America were treated as a single continent is baffling. I suspect their was some political reason for the latter.
@@CavemanSynthesizer Well... Latin America teaches the same continents as Spain (and many other European countries). I guess there was no point for Spain to divide the continent if they had possessions in North, Central and South America (regions we consider subcontinents).
@@CavemanSynthesizer I would guess history, largely. Which certainly plays into, or out of, politics. Europe and Asia were probably treated as different entities as far back as Ptolemy. There's little reason for anyone in the American landmass to change that.
Native people of the Americas probably had no real concept of "continents" until the colonisers arrived.
Spain, in particular, colonised north and south and the Pope drew a (often ignored) line dividing Spanish and Portugese claim across the whole new world, pole to pole - basically how Portugal got Brazil and nothing much else. Whereas Britain and France were (largely, there are exceptions) in the north. With that treating "America" as a single continent made the most sense.
My guess is Spanish and Portugese former colonies largely then derived the view of their colonisers when it came to the mostly intangible "continents", while what would become the United States and Canada took on the British-French approach.
And culturally, North America's Mexico probably has more in common with Argentina and Chile which cover the southern tip of South America than with the bulk of the bordering USA.
And the fact there’s many culture in Asia
Including every old civilisation except Egypt and Greek
And they divide Europe as a continent 💀
Why not just call it Eurasiafro
There's a UK mini-series of Brideshead Revisited from 1981 starring Jeremy Irons (and Anthony Andrews). Quite famous in Britain, produced by Granada Television that won BAFTA and Golden Globe awards, and is usually featured in the Top 40 lists of best dramas of all time. I believe this Series is free to watch on YT.
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I'll be honest, i didn't even know different places taught different numbers of continents. Very informative.
Love your recent content. And apparently I'm not alone -- 100K, grats! Onto 7 digits eh?
Thank you Steffen!
If you want channels on linguistics, I would recommend: Langfocus, RobWords, Simon Roper, Ecolinguist, LingoLizard, languagejones, and Dr Geoff Lindsey.
Edit: also a great video by King Ming Lam regarding the Germanic languages!
I don’t know why but I think the reason why I love your channel is cuz it’s so genuine like no other channel does it like urs 👏
Haha, I got notifications for weeks on my continent comment on that previous video. Glad we’re getting clarification 😂
100k lets gooooo🔥
I really enjoyed reading Brideshead Revisited. It had to be more than 20 years ago. "Scoop" is another Waugh book worth reading. Jeremy Irons narrating Brideshead must be a real treat. He played Charles in a British miniseries of Brideshead Revisited in the 1980's.
Awesome, as always 😊
I was one that recommended this on the other vid. They have ton of good stuff.
I like you as a reactor because you add to the conversation. You engage with the video and actually produce something out of it.
Other linguistics channels I like include K Klein and Artefexian. Both K Klein and Tom Scott have excellent videos on singular they, among many other subjects.
No Protocol Awesome Video Today!!🔥🐐🐐💎
Massive congratulations on the 100k subs 😊
Thank you Thomas!
@@NoProtocol you deserve it, the music recommendations are a great addition, and I have read so many books I would have probably never read because of you. Always interesting content and a very articulate host, Thank you once again.
Wow! I’m glad you’ve liked some of the books and the music is fun for me so I’m glad you’re enjoying too, thanks for saying (:
I like that you are so positive.
Pulp, Blur and Oasis are generally just referred to as Brit Pop. Whilst Pulp are generally considered contemporaries of the other two, they had actually been around since the early 80's, but didn't see fame until the 90's.
On the subject of continents, as a kid in school in the UK during the 70's we were taught that Australia was part of the continent Australasia, but this changed I guess in the early 80's to Oceania, however now I hardly ever hear people use Oceania and generally hear Australasia again.
Stephen Fry is also a great narrator, although he is mostly known in that context for doing the audio books for Harry Potter.
Mate, you’re one up on me! I was born, educated and continue to live in Australia and I do not recognise “Australinea”. However, full confession, as a student I was not very studious!
We were definitely taught that Australia was a continent - I still remember being taught “largest island, smallest continent” but they were strangely silent on our brethren across “the ditch” in New Zealand.
Hi, have decided to call your channel, the intelligent channel. where we can actuallly learn or unlearn the things we thought we knew. Love it. could you give us a bit of info about yourself please, What country are you in? It would be nice to know your name as well. Thanks again.
Always a pleasure dear.
I think Stephen Fry deserves a shout-out as well for his narration.
And my personal favorite - Tim Pigott-Smith.
Congratulations on the 100K subscribers. Today 100K, tomorrow, all 5, 6, or 7 continents!
For an instrumental can I suggest Heartsong by Gordon Giltrap?
Thanks Simon (:
Congratulations on 100k subs.
Thank you!
As an Australian, my view of this regions continent is the continuous landmass of the Australian continent, the continent of the reader Australian shelf or Sahul, which can also be called australia as it mostly just adds the islands of Papua and Tasmania, the bio geographic continent of Australia which adds mostly Indonesian islands to the Wallace line where Asian flora and fauna is more common to the west and Australian equivalent to the east (adding Tenggara and Sulawesi). And the political continent of Oceania which groups the nations east of Australia and generally gives a place to the pacific peoples in continental categories.
So a 1. continental continent, 2. continental shelf, 3. greater shelf and islands attached to said shelf of said continent, 4. Biogeographic continent, 5, politically based continent.
In conclusion, the best and easiest answer in my humble opinion is to clump them together, all the nations and islands of the south pacific (and even pacific as a whole honestly), Australia, Tasmania, Papua (and the smaller islands tied to those islands governments and coastlines that don’t fit alternate continents), and eastern Indonesia as far as the Wallace line, very clearly defined by life and geography.
Thus making the greater Australian continent, or Oceania, or greater Sahul, or even some totally new name. Regardless that would unite the places will all the categories in question for that large yet comparatively underpopulated and water ridden part of the world.
In Swedish we have two words, "kontinent" is usually used in a strictly geographic sense (large landmass), while the word we use more often in daily life is "världsdel" (literally "world part") is more arbitrary and cultural, so Europe is a världsdel but strictly speaking not a kontinent
When I was watching your video I thought about the possibility of walking from Denmark to South Africa. How interesting.
You also asked about a channel that covers languages. I would recommend Lang Focus he covers a large variety of languages.
Have you heard of Zealandia?
Some declare Australia is NOT a continent because it's a single unitary state which is a rather silly reason to discard it's continental status
Europe, a geographic part of "Eurasia" is separated only for cultural reasons
Another good choice of video to react to. Also Stephen Fry is a very narrator and has done quite a few audio books. Sherlock Holmes been one I liked.
Love love love it. I learned (from a not so popular political party) that what people refer to as the USA should actually be saying USNA - the United States of North America. Brazil had states United as well. Etc etc.
Love your vid, and I especially love the fact that you don't bow to the conformity of a long intro. You just be like "let's go."
That is not unnoticed! ❤
here in Colombia we count 6 continents: America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceanía and Antarctica
Just a quick note about Eurovision: The Eurovision Song Contest (French: Concours Eurovision de la chanson), often known simply as Eurovision or by its initialism ESC, is an international song competition organized annually by the European Broadcasting Union. The European Broadcasting Union (EBU; French: Union européenne de radio-télévision, UER) is an alliance of public service media organizations whose countries are within the European Broadcasting Area or who are members of the Council of Europe. As of 2022, it is made up of 112 member organisations from 54 countries,[2] and 30 associate members from a further 19 countries.[3] It was established in 1950 and has its administrative headquarters in Geneva.
Australia has three associate member organizations, ABC, Free, and SBS. The USA (who have never chosen to take part in the ESC) has actually six associate members: ABC, APM, CBS, NPR, NBC, and WFMT. Wikipedia has the full list of current and past full and associate members.
If you can find it,the BBC series of Brideshead revisited actually stars Jeremy Irons....I think you'd enjoy it .
I'm 44, born and raised in Europe. In school, I was taught there are 5 continents (I remember the teacher saying that all of them start with an A except Europe): Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa and America.
Yep me too but we said "the Americas"
@@annfrancoole34 I was always taught that The Americas were divided, as continents, as North and South America as they were on separate continental plates.
In case you are unaware, Brideshead Revisited was a Mini-Series here in the U.K. in 1981. It was on the ITV channel & starred the young actor Jeremy Irons that you mentioned along with Anthony Andrews. It is well worth watching if you can access it. We had several very good Historical Dramas throughout the `60`s, `70`s & `80`s both by ITV & the BBC.
Best channel!
Thanks for coming back Joe (:
Awesome!
Yeah that Patrick Holland jam was good....I subscribed to his channel.
Hey just commenting here because it's your latest video and hopefully you might see it.
I would really love if you would continue reacting to Bo Burnham, the two songs you did were from the Inside album (which is great), but to get a better grip of his earlier work, you should try something like "country song" "From gods perspective" or "repeat stuff". His Inside album was alot more introspective than his earlier work, even though they still have depth, they were made more to be funny, while I feel the Inside album is a different beast. I like your reactions and thoughts and I think it would get good hits since alot of people love Bo :)
I'm in the UK and was taught (way back in the late '80s/early '90s) that the continents were North America, Latin America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Antarctica.
You might enjoy Sven Atterton - 'The Cove' or 'Starting Again'
Excellent comments on your part, thank you for sharing, I'll be following these guys, I love thought provoking videos.
I was taught to name Oceania the whole area covering Australia, New Zeland and a lot a of islands, can't remember which exactly, I'm from Mexico and as far as I know they still teach it this way and teach there are 5 continents.
Don't understand the model where they divide America into 2 continents and sometimes 3 making it 7 continents in total and calling Australia as a continent, and then just leave the rest of the islands out ?
I guess that I have always understood the concept of continents as a way to divide regions of the world and don't find it cool to leave any countries or islands out of it. Am I right that by calling Australia a continent they leave all the small islands out ? I don't know
When I was taught the continents; I was told Australia was the name of a country and a continent (which included the country of Australia and a few other countries).
I was never a fan of that because it could be confusing. So I eventually stopped referring to the continent as Australia and started calling it Australasia (which is the same area I was taught was the continent of Australia).
Also, another term I've heard is Oceania, which is what FIFA uses for the area.
RobWords is a great channel that deals with language.
I haven’t heard of it, thanks for the recommendation!
@@NoProtocol you're welcome
As someone who studied linguistics, I consider RobWords a fun but rather naive channel that tends to deal so superficially with languages that it often gets it wrong. I think the presenter is great at communicating but the research is pretty sloppy. I'd watch LingoLizard, Tom Scott, Artifexian or NativLang instead.
The "eggcorn" video by Robwords was particularly entertaining.
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The Patrick Holland song was awesome. I threw it on my playlist. Also, I'm going to 8 continents after including the moon.
I’m glad you liked it!
Although I watch to a LOT of linquistics channels I think NativeLang's "Thoth's Pill: an Animated History of Writing" is something everyone would enjoy
Galipoli is a good film. My granddad fought there in ww1 with the Lancashire fusiliers. x
Euro-Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Australia and Antarctica - so 6 Continents.
I was taught that there are 7 continents, and simply called one of them "Australia", but heck, that was in the early 1940's, and there were many things in the early 20th century that scientists thought were physically impossible that are commonplace now (helicopter flight, curveballs, breaking the sound barrier, breaking the 4-minute mile, etc.). Obviously, we didn't know much back then, so I think we can pretty much discount our thoughts about continents. I think I'll join the "what difference does it make" school of thought. Thanks for sharing that video, though; very entertaining.
Not to be that guy but helicopters did exists in the early 40's, they were very primitive though. Like the bell 30 took its first flight in 1943 and was the first prototype for a commercial helicopter.
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Haha. If you'll notice, I said, "... there were many things in the early 20th century...". My reference to the 1940's was because that's when I was taught about the continents. Seems like yesterday. 😂
Some consider the Ural Mountains as a border between the continents of Europe & Asia. Then you would get creative on the rivers that flow to the Caspian, and then the Caucasus Mountains as the south east border. Fun video.
I'm french and I learned about Oceania being the continent of Australia, New-Zealand and all of the islands in the region not already belonging in another continent.
There's a few other video that's amazing about this topic by the way.
please watch more of jay foreman
In Poland we didn't have a set number of continents - as long as you used/were able to mark correct terms on the map it was ok. Number only came into play when talking about olympics rings symbol
One thing they didn't go into is where the arbitrary line between an island and a continent goes. In Sweden I was taught that Australia is the smallest continent, so Greenland is the largest island.. but I know Australians are horrified because they think they are both the largest island and the smallest continent.. which doesn't make sense to me 🤨
We also made a distinction between "världsdelar" literally "World parts" and continents where the former are more cultural and historical and the continents more geographical.. though they still often split Europe and Asia for some unexplained reason.
I knew it as Australasia for the continent growing up in the UK. Didn't know that was discouraged now
You might want to check out CGP Greys "What are continents" - check out CGP Grey in general.
If you're looking to learn from a really nerdy channel check out Masaman who works to map out hablogroups. I don't know that he'd make a good channel to react to, his material is academic rather than entertaining, but it might interest you to watch on your own time, he does solid work.
I was interested at “nerdy”, will definitely be checking it out!
Just checked it out and what a cool channel. No clue how ive never happened across it before
@@gIowtopia Well, he's been inactive for a while because of data loss. CZcams algorithms and what have you. I'm glad you're finding it interesting :)
Christopher Hitchens, Martin Amis, Salman Rushdie, and their friends, when at college together referred to themselves as Brideshead Regurgitated.
I've never listened to an audio book, going to try Brideshead Revisited.
My approach is a general one (aka I mean, come on...) and according to it: Asia and Europe can not be viewed as separated, but Asia and Africa can be (even though...) and so can be the Americas (I know), and Asia and Australia. p.s. I forgot Antarctica, because I don't care about it that much. p.p.s. In Bulgaria I was taught there are 7 continents though.
Finally someone with common sense and ability to think science. Of course EuroAsia is one unitary continent from geographical and geological point of view ! These nonsense of it being 2 continents Europe and Asia has zero scientific or even logic behind it, pure political nonsense. 1) Its mostly on one solid Euroasian tectonic plate, with exception of Indian tectonic plate and Arabian plate. 2) Ural mountains are very low in height 3) If using the "logic" that a mountain range is grounds to divide a large unitary solid land mass in different "continents" then there should be Indian Continent too as Himalayas are a lot higher and more massive, there also should be West North American continent, Central North American continent and East North American continent because Rockies and Cascades divide Western USA from Central USA and Appalachians divide the Eastern part of USA 🤔😄
Just because some nonsense is being taught does not mean its true, back in days Church taught Earth is Flat and that Sun revolves around Earth 😂
Jeramy irons reads the alchemist perfectly
Jeremy Irons is the voice of the #1 Disney villain as well :)
I was today years old when I found out he voiced Scar!! Wow
Unlike many people here I don't remember how many continents are there according to the textbooks when I was a student. Perhaps that is because we didn't have tests with fixed answers and what the guys said in the video would be considered an excellent answer, but in written form obviously.
Hi, I'm French, we're taught that Oceania (which we call Océanie) is the correct name and Australia is only the name of the biggest country inside, nothing to do with the continent name.
And I was actually taught that Europe, Asia, Oceania and Africa were continents and that for Artantica, Artica, America or South and North America it depends but generally we agree on ignoring Artica, validating Antartica and dividing America in NA and SA
Well, in the case of the Arctic, it's only ice on ocean, not land, whereas Antarctica is ice and snow on land. That's the difference there.
@@DraconimLt Yeah that's the same reasoning that they gave us
@@Decamix300 I gotta agree with it tho, if it's made of frozen water that can melt and then you'll be in the middle of the Ocean with no help, then it's not really a continent, lol.
Fittingly for a reaction to arguable distinctions, I wonder which Brian Cox, haha! Somehow - given other videos reacted to here - I think it's the actor, but I've also seen plenty of documentaries narrated by Brian Cox the scientist and musician.
It's interesting to note that the term "Australasia" is becoming avoided. Logically I picked that up somewhere, be it in school two decades or so ago, or in the news around then. The main distinction from just calling it Australia was the inclusion of New Zealand, then perhaps some smaller Pacific nations. That said, when Australia was federated, New Zealand was invited to join, just as those states and territories that did so.
I’m Australian and we’ve always been lumped in with Oceania as far as I’m aware.
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In my school in Norway we where taught that Australia is a country in the continent of Oceania, a continent that also includes parts of New Guinea and most of the Pacific island states.
But I don't think that Hawaii and Easter island was included, although I could be wrong, it's been *years*.
Snafu Docs has some really interesting videos. Going back to WW2 sights and people who were photographed and matching them up today.
Yes here in Argentina we consider Oceania a continent, and then America, Europa, Asia and Africa would make the main 5, then Antartica would be the 6th.
Being British we have more of what i like to call an Island Mentality . So an awful lot of people don't even think of us as European. But i do love Map men videos they trick you into learning my niece told me they even shown them in schools .
4:31 i was taught it's called "Australia and Oceania", i'm from Poland (i was taught 7 continents: Europe, Africa, Asia, 2 Americas, Antarctica, Australia and Oceania)
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8:35 Tom Scott has some good videos about linguistics czcams.com/video/TFpzps-DCb0/video.html , czcams.com/video/dUnGvH8fUUc/video.html
One of my favourites is a video making a very long compound word in German. By the end it just blurred together like "bar babar barb bar bar baba bar..." It made me wonder why the Romans called their northern invaders "Barbarians" lol. (Rhabarberbarbara with translation)
Agree it really doesn't matter a great deal anymore how many continents one thinks there are.
Not really a recommendation for a video, but now you mention the Bosphoros , there is an absolutely amazing podcast, on the history of Rome by Mike Duncan, which I have listened to awake and asleep multiple times, and it ran for years, with hundreds of episodes. There was then a spinoff, eventually blessed by Mike Duncan called The History of Byzantium podcast, which as I'm sure you can believe lasted even longer, and covered from the collapse of the West to the fall to the Ottomans. I can recommend both, just as casual / curious listening.
Yeah. What I took away was that communication is a team sport and we all get different educations / experiences. That, and that there can be room in semantic blind spots to craft statements with different meanings to different audiences.
When I was at school here in the UK, it was always taught that there are 7 Continents (and still is):
Europe, Africa, Asia, North America, South America, Antarctica and 'Australia', but the name of the last one changed every few years - Australia, Oceania, Australasia, I can't even remember which it was first!
Still not agreed upon I don't think, as when I ask google it says diferent things depending on the link, though I personally tend to use 'Australia', because most of the rest is Ocean not land...
Though technically New Zealand is actually on another, mostly sunken continent, scientists found that out a few years back, and named it Zealandia.
Egypt is also in two continents, only separated by the Suez Canal.
In Croatia in late 90s and early 00s when I went to school they told us there are 7 continents. North and south America, Africa, Asia, Europe, Antartica and simply Australia :D
Other linguistics channels that I enjoy: RobWords, NativLang, Simon Roper. Good stuff there.
Evelyn Waugh has a book called Vile Bodies which gets compared a lot to The Great Gatsby -- both deal with young socialites of the 1920s -- but I think Vile Bodies is just better. It's feels more grounded and yet isn't afraid to get a bit absurd (which may just be a modern readers' interpretation of what was considered normal for these bohemian people). It's remarkably funny for something that's almost 100 years old and all the characters are equal parts likeable and infuriating in the best way. Would definitely recommend you try it. It's quite a short read too!
That was fun
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Europe - Americas - Africa - Asia - Oceania
Antarctica?
Atlas Pro has a video called What Are The 7 Realms of Biogeography that makes the concept of continents make a little sense if you define a continent by the animals that are native to it. I don't remember if the video made any claims about what a continent is, I think it was just an observation I made watching it.
5:33 Anneka Rice (Mark's supposed mother) was a popular TV presenter in the 1980s.
as a bolivian I've been taught america, asia, africa, europe, oceania and antarctica
The genre of Pulp, Blur, etc. is Britpop from the mid 90's. If you like Britpop you'll probably like The Charlatans & Sleeper too. Also, Lush, Elastica, & Skunk Anansie are worth checking out
I recognize two of those names. Thanks for the suggestions!
We in Czechia actually have two different words for what you call continents. We have continents and "world-parts" (sounds dumb but it's a literal translation). One is devided into South America, north america, Australia, Asia, Europe, Africa and Antarctica. The second term is uses north and south America as a single entity (America) and Europe and Asia as a single entity (Eurasia). So we both have five and seven
Name Explain goes in to linguistics. Worth looking into. And History Matters is very good to, for history with a touch of comedy.
USA, 7 continents. North America (with Central America being apart of NA), South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, and Antarctica.
America is a continent.
If not, what is America?
In school I learned it was "The Americas" not North & South America.
Are they missing the newest one? Zealandia. Connected to NZ and 90% underwater, separate from Australia.
It at least used to be the case that the name Evelyn could be given to both boys and girls, except it was pronounced with a long E if a boy ("eevlin") and with a short E if a girl ("evvlin"). A more confusing example of bi-gender first names is Leslie (F) / Lesley (M), which are pronounced the same.
The eastern end of the European tectonic plate is located at the Ural Mountains. The west of the Urals is European Russia and East of the Urals is Siberia.
You should check out Rob Words.
If you want another channel that touches history, linguistics etc. I recommend Overly Sarcastic Production
Here in Belgium we used Oceanië instead of Australia.
So North-America, South-America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Antartica and Oceanië. Those were our 7.
People considering Australia a continent was always weird to me.
Educated in France, I went to primary school in the 80s. I was taught as far as I recall Europe, Africa, Asia, the Americas, Oceania. The rather loose boundary we were taught between Europe and Asia was the Ural mountains. No characterization of Antarctica as a continent, althought we talked about it of course.
Basically the same in Brazil we are taught that the Ural mountains are the natural barrier between Asia and Europe and that the America is a single continent with three subdivisions North, Central+Caribbean and South
Raised in Canada, N America, S America, Australia, Africa, Antarctica, Europe, & Asia. Dividing line between Europe & Asia was the Ural Mtns. Central Asia & Middle (including Turkey) East was a mess. Same with all the thousands if islands here, there and every where. But - & to me the important part - it gave some order to the world. & in the days before computer screens the teacher could wave the pointer at the wall map & we could move on - - -
New Zealand has it's own submerged continent 'Zealandia' - the status of which is still up for debate. What is interesting is that it isn't just a fragment of the Australian continent which had it's boundary going through NZ. The Zealandia boundary is hundred of kilometers from the NZ land mass and extends all the way up the Australian coast to somewhere near Brisbane and includes New Caledonia.