My LEAST Favorite Thing About FPV
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- čas přidán 12. 03. 2022
- Although I try to avoid it as much as possible... it's really not that bad.
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All I'm trying to say is... If you're a beginner and feel intimidated by the technical stuff... I get it!
Hello, im a beginner and i've been keeping an eye on the fpv market lately. I got recommended an erls drone and the zorro controller. Im still trying to learn more about it before considering getting anything.
@@benaszs5894 honestly I found it easier to bind and start flying with DJI
Think i'll stay on this digital track
Cheers
Link all the new guys to Oscar liangs blog its the Bible for elrs
The ELRS discord channel is full of very knowledgeable people willing to help.
Matt (and others that will like to help), i'd like your opinion of which you believe is the best scenario (I'm taking the 1st step to fpv):
a) buy a controller as first controller/radio that will use for a simulator and keep him for later on (JumperRc T-Pro, 1000mw elrs seems quite good)-up to 100$ margin.
b) Buy a cheap FPV kit -up to 200$- use the included controller for flying simulator and toss them later.
Thank you in advance.
I really want to stress something important about Elrs that I feel Matt forgot to mention: the Elrs community on Discord. There are absolute legends on there with semingly unlimited patience and the best characters out there. I had issues in the begining setting up link quality and rssi dbm in my osd, something that the JB video wasn't helping with and after a few betaflight screenshots they pinpointed my problem and guided me step by step till it was solved. Before bringing your questions to them though I would check the Elrs website for solutions: a lot of it is really clearly explained there: www.expresslrs.org/2.0/
and the link to the Discord server: discord.com/invite/expresslrs
Love your candor bro. Thank you for posting up the content
Thank you for your connective binding to the FPV world's needs and feeling into the range of things and smoothing out the bugs in places most forget to cover
Everything in FPV sure does have a learning curve, and although getting into the weeds with settings and software may not be for everyone, like you said, it's getting easier all the time! Glad you're pushing your limits anyways, even though Crossfire works just fine. Cheers. Great video as always.
Amazed at how much your videos improve from one to the other, man.
Love the quality, love the content!
Thanks Dude. You are a great source of knowledge in the FPV world. You have been a source of simplified and straight forward knowledge from your days of FPVing in Korea. I found that the entire process was not straight and at times extremely confusing, so I chose to go with the DJI system to build with, so as to minimize my confusion. It has worked out so far and now I'm considering moving in the the Express LRS system. GREAT video.
I've watched probably 20 of your videos, all after I had made it through the slog that is "getting into FPV". I like seeing what is out there for beginners. I really like the way you present information. The way you boil down the confusion and present "what you need to know" really nice. I'm in a similar boat, I don't mind building or repairing but often find the learning software a hassle. I have also chosen to learn it anyway because I like the options. Plus I don't think DJI is a good company... so theirs that... anyway. Thank you for continuing to produce content helping beginners and intermediates get into this hobby, or get into new aspects of this hobby. Your chill delivery is encouraging and feels honest. Keep up the great work. Thank You
I find elrs fairly easy to set up. You’re so right when you mentioned how things never go exactly as it should when following along. Normally something is just a little bit different. I ordered my zorro on 1/29 and I’m still waiting. Looking forward to your review on the three radios.
Great video Matt 🙏
Man, I couldn’t agree more.
I'm just building my fist quad from scratch with a G4 Fettec.
It’s always intimidating but, maybe because it’s hard to do, it make’s me wanna do it.
Great video! My main roadblock was 3d printing and getting into that space to help with my drones.
Fpv will melt your brain 🤯 it did mine but after getting into it I have learned alot and it's alot easier to understand everything that comes with flying fpv and the pros will outweigh the cons great lesson man👍🏽✌🏽
Always excited about ur videos. W
Love your FPV stuff man, hope you have a new video soon!
Thanks for the clear information! I guess for most beginners using the digital DJI system combined with the controller is also a great option, if you want to pay the high price.
Although it has some more input latency, i'd prefer the ease of use right now...
Spot on. Just ordered a TX16S MK II JB edition with ELRS. Here we go!
The cool thing about coming from Crossfire, is that Betaflight uses the same wiring protocol as ELRS. So once you bind your receiver to your transmitter, you can fly. I think the ELRS configuration is really easy to use. Also, for what it’s worth, I now fly exclusively 915mhz quads. And range wise, 10mw on my transmitter will get me the same range without fail safe as my 600mw VTX… That’s through concrete block walls and countless small trees.
Love your channel!
Matt with the video 3 days after i fully setup'd my elrs.
All I have to say is, its hard to fully get elrs working BUT the ELRS devs always respond on their discord, I'm a full noob and got it all working in 4 hours, if i can you all can!
Sick Video Matt 😎
I feel you on this Matt, I went from crossfire to DJI link just for ease of use , looking at doing ELRS for a long range set up but most clients don't ask you to fly 10km away lol
Great video Matt! Been debating elrs myself or going crossfire for next drone might have to consider elrs plus the module looks pretty darn cool lol
I honestly think I like to fly so that it gives me an opportunity to tweak things on the computer. The satisfaction of making your stuff better and better is as exciting as flying to me. Different strokes, great content Matt.
Well said Matt.. FPV as a hobby has a lot of barriers to entry mainly because of the technical know-how needed .. DJI has been working on reducing those barriers and look at how popular they have become.. Companies / systems like Express LRS need to work on making things more simple for people too.
Great Video. Which of the both radios do you prefer? Will there be a review?
matt.... I need help. Ive been flying a tiny hawk 2 for about a year now on a 1s lipo. would a emax tinyhawk 2 freestyle work? or is there something better?
Enjoying the content! If your looking to pick up a TBS Tango 2, just order directly from Team Blacksheep. I had no problem getting it directly and it’s the newest board revision (v4 board). As mentioned it’s got built in Crossfire. But like many will tell you…if new just make it easy on yourself and go with a DJI FPV System and controller. 👍👍
While it is intimidating, after you go through one setup it's easy peasy on any other Rx. The price and capability is what motivated me to learn the system.
ELRS is just one more hurdle I don't need. Currently use Crossfire and Ghost. I'm happy with both and intend to stick to them.
I hear ya man. Dealing with the technicals can be daunting.
Great video, for me it’s crossfire and DJI goggles.
Plz help
I want to get the nazgul5 hd digital but I dont know what gear to get. When I look at the drone it says choose reciver protocol. Which reciever would I get for what gear?
Which soldering iron was that you were using in this video?
ELRS is just for radio correct? I could install on an air unit drone ? Thanks
Betaflight also supports ELRS with preset "tunes" that will set your flight controller up for optimal performance
Dude your channel is awesome! I’m wanting to get into an fpv drone, looking into some tinywhoops. Can the tx12 be bound to the Cetus pro? Or maybe the similar tinyhawk? Or should I get the rtf kit from one of those makers? Thanks man! Keep up the awesome videos.
I had so much pain with Crossfire not just in the beginning. (I had 4 month in a row problems with the tango2.... No binding...)
After several month using ELRS, I can report no issues at all. I recommend it for beginners, is cheaper and it's the same difficulty.
The tinkering and problem solving is what is the most enjoyable to some of us. I build most of my quads and love that almost as much as flying!
Hi, thank you for this video. I recently bought a radiomaster t16s to have a elrs module. Which module is currently best to buy?
Kind regards,
Dennis
Never had a range problem with my Tango2 Crsf, but like you said it’s just not so easy to buy.
Have two tango 2's no regrets, hoping we see alloy silk gimbal upgrades for it & the new mamba.
Looking forward for your comparison on Crossfire and ELRS (:
I'm feel exactly the same way. Im just getting into ELRS, but all the setup/flashing stuff is a little overwhelming. My new ELRS Zorro and 3 ep1 receivers are all still sitting on my desk unused.
I am just getting into ELRS. Everything to setup was super easy except for my BetaFPV nano TX module. I kept erroring out when trying to flash the firmware to it. I had to actually take the module apart, find a button hidden under the plastic case and hold the button down while it flashed. The only other weird thing is that when I plug in my drone it takes 20 or 30 seconds before my radio is talking to my drone. But I have 3 more Happymodel receivers on their way to replace all of my crossfire receivers. Crossfire is fantastic, but it's pricy and hard to find lately. the 3 Crossfire receivers I have is over $100. $48 for 3 ELRS receivers.
I want to get into fpv, but I regret getting a DJI P3 4k many years ago, still have it, flying it every summer. but I want to get into modular systems more. First train in sim, so I need a controller, will a radiomaster zorro ELRS be a good controller and right set for me once Im flight stick trained and can move on to get fpv goggles and fpv drone ?
Liked at 4:55 no waiting for end of video this time ^^ Thank for sharing ur experience👍 ELRS will be in my next qaud Build after i get more familiar with fixed wings.
One of the points for me is the price of a single RX .... Got 7 Quads... all on CRSF for 25-35€ each... would be lot cheaper on ELRS 🤣
Just ordered the Sector 5D ELRS and the Radiomaster Zorro after flying pure DJI for a year so I hope your closing throughs are true ;-)
I’m terrible with the tech side as well. Right when I needed something easier, the Ethix Mambo was released-- so easy!!! ELRS is my next step-- I’ll get it sooner or later! But Tracer has been idiot-proof for me.
I’m looking to extend my range, should I buy crossfire or ExpressLRS? I watched the video but couldn’t find an answer.
Hi, I absolutely love your content and find it very helpful, and interesting. Can you just tell me what was that other radio you've received? I think you only mentioned the Zorro. Would you recommend the zorro or the one which name you didn't mention?
Thanks again for your brilliant content!
The other one is the Jumper T-Pro. I'm still waiting for the new iFlight radio to do a full comparison of all three. They both have their pros and cons but, at the moment, I THINK I like the zorro more. My favorite radio is still the tx16s if price isn't a factor.
Hey I would really like to know where to buy drone products
Yep you got it that's pretty much why I just stick with air units and air units only
I am goin to start flying fpv, is the eachine novice 4 a good pick?
I love your personality and videos brings out a lot for the community that has the exact same fuss about simplicity either the DJI remote and goggles and totally happy with that trying to get them to run that's another story trying to figure out how to get the camera to turn on when you don't know it's been a lot of time on the ground it's like kind of like owning a Harley that spends more time in the garage and out on the street. That's the whole reason why I went digital is a lot easier a lot more beautiful thank God for DJI
Controllers and TX rx is for sure the biggest pain. Elrs helps a lot with that though with the password binding phrase and Wi-Fi updating. I love having 2 radios at gigs that just work without any fuss or rebinding.
Also I've had way better success and reliability over crossfire.
Is flying FPV "easier" than flying line of sight? I have a cheap tinywhoop and haven't flown it FPV yet and it's such a pain.
Every time I ran into a problem, I ask the more experienced pilots, for example, fpv Facebook group. It was tough when I need it to setup ExpressLRS with Lua script :d
If nothing works: Hi I'm joshua bardwell and you gonna learn something today.😊
Can you please try do a revew on the iflight baby nangul I'm looking to buy it.
Being new to FPV, I finally got confident enough with the basic knowledge and sim time to order all of my gear. Of course, now I'm forced to wait on crossfire backorders!! Damn this shortage...
Should have gone ELRS. It's awesome
@@PkwyDrive13 Same shortage there. I’ve been waiting for months to get my Zorro ELRS starter kit. Still waiting
My least favourite thing is the cost to get started :)
I think most any of the protocols will work for most pilots. I personally have the DJI system and it works for my needs, so don't see a need for the extra time, money and potential frustration to switch. For how I fly a lot of times the minor advantage is not noticeable to me, or needed. Plus the drone biz will alway find a way to get more $$$ form ya.
Set up and binding is the easiest of any system on the market!
Funny enough, I have been on Crossfire for about 9 of the past 12 months, and just 2 days ago, got my first ELRS Tx and Rx.. Pretty rough learning curve, or maybe it was just that crossfire was so simple! Hahahah
Thanks for cool video😉
I have my six latest quads all on ELRS. It is cheap and great!
Bro I almost DIED learning BETA FLIGHT.. that's what made me switch to the DJI FPV POTATO.. LOL hey at least it's not hard! And it guess FREAKING MILES.. LOL. THX BUDDY
MIKEY
Oh hey how are you liking that Babyhawk? I have one and it’s my favorite to fly just for fun. So smooooth.
It's not bad! I touched on this in my last video but I think there's some room for improvement. I have to look into more under-250g options.
Great video/topic! I got into ELRS fairly early and there is definitely a bit of a learning curve. The big pluses are price and sheer size and weight of the ELRS receivers... Especially the happy Model EP1 and EP2 style rx...ELRS is the best choice for the smaller quads/whoops. Crossfire is still great and and more mature in its development and it's what i use for my bigger quads still... You don't have go to ELRS if you're happy with Crossfire but if you're starting from scratch, i'd say skip Crossfire and go straight to ELRS, much cheaper option overall and similar range. Both awesome systems!
Yea I got in real early. Before 2.4. Before they had their own stuff. U have to build ur own. I use r9 lite pro and r9 receivers for elrs900
I switch all my quads to elrs, I toke a bit time to get to know how it works but it was worth it,
@2:48 - why I use a DJI radio - although I do wish it had crossfire range :(
FPV is evolving so fast its hard to keep up
So true. But at least that means it's slowly becoming easier as well!
You should have been there at the beginning. 6 years ago was even faster changing!
Glad to see it all maturing as larger companies invest
@@ZachWhitehead Haha for sure. Sometimes I'll see tutorials from 4-5 years ago and it's wild how much has improved.
FPV is really a weird segment. Companies expect everyone to be engineers. My skyzones came with a broken sma port. Instead of forcing to send it back. He said u can send to Cali for us to fix or u can just fix it urself if u want. So I fixed itself to save time. But what other technology segment says u can fix it urself if u want.
To me ERLS is way more complicated than getting a controlling needs to be. to be, I mean way too many options. Suffers from feature creep. I just want to push a button bind and fly
Same! And coding is 1/2 my job 🤣
You fly DJI, be lazy like me: use the DJI controller: good range, no receiver to add and no fussing around
"go really far" ---> the DJI Googles V2 max distance even at 1200mW is 13km anyway.
Least favorite thing for me is Battery Charging and next to zero flight times 😭😭
His hobby forces you LEARN embrace it
Hey Matt! Do you think buying the Dji FPV for my first fpv drone is a good way to go, this battery management and setting up the drone all confuses me, and then later on build a fpv drone, or should I straight up buy a fpv drone, I’m also mixed since the dji fpv contains all the smart features like the breaking system which brings me a lot of confidence and the Rth when connection is lost, where as the standard one has a lot more customisation compared to the dji fpv but lacks the safety features.
If you are primarily interested in freestyle flying(rather than purely cinematic)I wouldn't recommend the dji fpv. it's far too fragile for learning ANY kind of tricks except open air stuff, and it's very dificult to have the discipline to not try risky things. Sim time in liftoff or velocidrone a bunch first, then get a decent RTF Kit.
@@thatguycarlos yea, I’ve done a lot of practise in Liftoff, but it’s a mix of cinematic and freestyle I want to do
@@thatguycarlos I’ve also managed to get a Dji Fpv brand new for £799 which is a very good deal, the goggles alone are like £609 so I was thinking if I had the dji fpv I could also get an RC and a Nazgûl, I think they are called that, one of the five inch 4s drone to be specific. It’s been something I’ve been thinking out and it seems like it’ll work all I will need is either the dji Fpv unit or a digital to analogue converter for the goggles
@@Unstoople with that kind of deal, I agree, hard to say no. You're plan to get a nazgul for your freestyle is a great idea, but be aware that the remote that comes with the DJI FPV ONLY works with that drone and you'd need to get another one for all your other drones(although, if you practice in liftoff, you may already have a radio)...
The goggles will work though as long as you get the DJI version of whatever drone you choose.
If I use DJI goggles, is there really any reason to use a separate receiver for the controller and not just to use the DJI controller? Isn’t the range always limited by the video signal and not the radio? Why all the fuss about radios when the goggles are the actual thing that limits range?
The DJI controller is one of the most expensive controllers (and has fewer options for customization). For someone on a budget, it's very likely that your controller could be the bottleneck for your range and ELRS is an affordable way to avoid that. I think the DJI controller is great if money isn't an issue though!
With the DJI controller, you will also be limited to only flying digital. If you want the option of flying whoops and other quads, you might need something different.
@@MattPochwat Agreed the DJI controller is way too limiting, very heavy & bulky for what it is. I was hoping we would see air units compatible with DJI's 2.4ghz control link however at the very least so the V2 controller could be used in longer range applications.
@@MattPochwat I guess I meant if you only use the DJI goggles it hardly matters which radio TX you go with. As for analog....what is that again? 😃
This video is 101% TRUTH.
Дуже потрібний fpv набір на передову частину фронту в Україні, рятують багато життів, для використання як засіб розвідки та знешкодження ворожих дронів, будемо вдячні за будь яку допомогу.
TBS is the best i think 😜 hehe
Everything micro fpv is one of the best channels for info on micros
I hate the computer crap part of fpv! I nearly gave it flying due to all lies about bind and fly. Who ever builds the drones thinks that any one can fly around a computer work out all the crap I'm going through frsky crap for 2 days now
I have had So so many problems with my crossfire, I have several of their recievers and until now I could not get one of them to work as it should, the same for Expresslrs, many problems in terms of binding and then not binded !!! that I am starting to think it is maybe because I live in Eu!!!? I have been in rc for over 25 years now. I used to rewind my own motors for the plane and drones. It was fun that time because there were no rolls around it. But this is making me creasy. so much so that after a mounth of trouble shooting I am just soon going to give up!!! :( sry my bad english
From Kazakhstan😊
I spy a menace patch 🕵️♂️
I literally just looked around my room trying to figure out where you saw that.
2nd least favourite thing, battery life.
As amazing as open source is, it’s often overburdened with a lack of what can be defined as “common sense”.
Very true. Closed systems can sometimes help make things more consumer-friendly. There are definitely pros and cons to both.
Welcome to the hobby
Good
ELRS is soooooo easy!!
Why you stop posting bro
My least favorite part of FPV is the reason I run FrSky RXs, Recon V3s, and a Taranis x9 Lite: Price. I bought the FrSky stuff before ELRS was a thing, don't start ranting. I hate FrSky Firmware, I know.
I sub to everyone that I watch a video from and it doesn’t matter if I like dislike or don’t click up or down I always sub to the channel it’s literally the least I can do by clicking my
Mouse one more time since I watched the video.
ELRS is a community of developers and users all trying to keep drones in the air without us having to get stuck in a sole source solution. No one wants to get another FrSKY situation again. Keep the costs down and keep people flying.
For the beginner, I recommend starting out with easy equipment like the DJI FPV and slowly working your way into the more technical side otherwise the frustration level could be too much.
Interesting, that you’re not interested in tech that much. I thought most FPV pilots are computer scientists (like me), engineers, …
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