Studio interference RUINED Kingsman: The Golden Circle
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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2018
- I've been wanting to make this video since September 22nd of 2017. As someone who absolutely LOVED Kingsman: the secret service, the Golden Circle is flat out blasphemy.
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Big thanks to "Pacific the casual gamer" for making the thumbnail, and the golden girls picture that popped up in this video!
And another thank you to "Average Pixel" for giving some insightful info about Blumhouse! - Hry
Honestly I watched this one without seeing the first one and I was like "I feel like they killed that girl way too soon."
Yep, considering how important of a character she was. I hope they retcon her back in by saying "there was a missile-proof safe room next to her"
I feel sorry you watched the inferior 2nd one before seeing the excellent first movie.
Did it put you off seeing the first?
@@barryhercules6486 I saw the first one and then the second one, and I think the second one put me off of ever watching the first again. So I think it'd be safe to say people watching the second one first (on accident or otherwise) would be put off from watching the first movie indefinitely.
@@annihilator4413 Thanks Ace. For me loved the 1st, massive let down with the 2nd story wise. Watched the first again years later and it was even better than I remembered. Class. The long-delayed upcoming prequel looks decent The Kings Man.
Also i was fine with the villains condition. Only outdated boomers believe that drugs can be stopped by making them illegal anyway
To be fair James Bond got married in one movie and was shown grieving in another
He got married for about sixty seconds before she was gunned down, and he reacted... rather calmly on the outside, trying to hold himself together as best he could. Radically different from what this movie did.
Yeah, complaining about the characters showing emotions is weird. It's tasteless to play it for comedy, but honestly, extreme stoicism isn't mentally healthy, and it's not something I mind this movie doing away with.
GamerSlyRatchet1 personally i loved this film. There are some good points in this video but i feel it was (apart for the pointless sex scene) pretty well done. Tbh there were only 4 statesman seen in person so we needed big names in order to justify them so jeff bridges being pointless is false he plays cowboys now (for some reason) and he did it again here. Yeah he had no screen time but thats what sequels and the statesman spin off is for
GamerSlyRatchet1 i was referring to his wife because Renn said a spy being in a serious relationship would kill the fantasy but bond was married and daniel craig’s bond sought vengeance in 3 movies due to his love’s death
Given the James Bond pastiche vibe of these films I don't get this either. Plus moaning about being thrown into a fight scene at the start. That's a pretty common set up for most James Bond films. They even directly reference Bond with the underwater car.
God I'm tired of the word cuck. Fucking right wing cunts over using it and now it's everywhere. At this point anybody who uses it just sounds like a twat. And when using it in reference to Colin Firth's character in this film it just sounds moronic because it's a pretty common trope where the character loses what defines them before fighting to become themselves again. How does he not see that? Maybe getting all offended by seeing Colin Firth as a "cuck" blinded him to actually thinking about it.
That cabin scene did frustrate me, because of how casually he was swinging around their only sample of the cure they so desperately needed. The moment he started doing that, it yelled: "Watch how we drop it! Watch how the last 10 minutes of the move ends up being for nothing. We're gonna do it! And there it goes!"
I always laugh at the “against Kingsman rules” argument. Considering Eggy’s dad was also a kingsman in the first movie and married with a child??? I don’t understand how or why people forget that detail?
Okay then why is it against the rules if they allow it twice?
@@ratman202 That was my point.
This dudes the kind of person to claim star wars had a bad plot coz Anakin had a wife and kids
@@DEADMEM3 "it's against jedi rules"
eggy's dad hasn't become a kingsman at that time, has he?
I personally believe that, if they really wanted Colin Firth back, they should have made the glasses bulletproof and he lost an eye as it didn’t fully stop until it hit his eye.
Dude, that is even better than what they did! Holy shit!
The glasses were bulletproof though..
That wouldn't work thought as we clearly saw blood spurt from the back of his head.
Or ... In real life some people survive gun shots to the head they the eye, look it up. I think they should have still kept him not remembering anything, but it should have been short before he remembered everything again and not half the movie.
Also like the video says, don't make gadgets that take away all consequences, no tech should heal headshot wounds.
Shawn Crabtree that's a cool idea bro I think you should direct the movie no joke you're awesome😎
This wasnt trying to be a James Bond film. This whole franchise is a slightly comedic take on Spy films
xNyner I agree with you mate. It's not supposed to be taken so seriously
This is just pure Satire of those films, and it’s making a real fool of itself to make people laugh. As a Frenchman, I enjoyed it as much as the first, but I guess we also have a duck ton of comedies running around.
The Kingsman genre is comedy
No LateGame I'd say that the first one still wanted to be a bond film in some ways. It satirised some of the elements and definitely became its own thing but the idea that it wanted to rip itself away from it's roots is ludicrous when I think the director wanted to reinvent a successful formula.
There's a difference between tongue in cheek and outright comedic IMO. First Kingsman was tongue in cheek. Golden Circle was outright comedic.
The anti-headshot gel was when I checked out. People do, exceptionally rarely, survive gunshots to the head, and valentine was looking away when he shot Harry. It would have been much more sensible to say that survived through shear luck, and the character could have done some interesting reflection based on that realisation.
Bringing characters back from the dead as a retcon is a massive pet peeve of mine
@@itsbreadbinWolfenstein The New Colossus also had a ridiculous head chopped off scene where BJ is brought back to life......which was utter nonsense.
Was this film released at the same time as the game?
You don't give any examples of how the studio ruined this film. It wasn't as good as the first but you show no evidence of where the studio interfered with the production. Title your videos better so you don't get as many dislikes next time
Dislikes are still viewer engagement, effectively promoting the video across CZcams, unfortunately.
@@han5vk however viewers will watch this video. Get a bad first impression and never watch the channel again
The more dislikes you get less times your video will pop for new people to see on the recommended section.
How would he know what the studio is doing?
so? he still calls out alot of the SHit parts that make no sense and are boring as fuck.
*SCENE* *REWRITE*
As for Harry's return. I would have scrapped the "Alpha Gel" idea and gone with this instead:
Due to Valentine's squeamishness for blood, this causes him to "miss" his shot. When he shot Harry, he looked away and fired. Since he looked away, it threw off his aim slightly. It was almost careless. Valentine can't really kill people directly due to his fear of blood. It's why he can't watch when the people start dying in the church. So how can he effectively kill a man point blank without looking? That's just it, he really can't. Now due to this carelessness and established weakness of Valentine's character, the bullet hits Harry in his eye but doesn't hit his brain. Instead, the bullet enters in the eye and exits off the side of his head (almost as if it scraped the side of his face). The force is enough to knock Harry's head back like it does in the original film. Harry falls down, not dead, but knocked out due to the blunt trauma to his head and possible shock. Valentine leaves, and the Statesmen do arrive later to see Harry on the ground, unconscious but not dead. Ginger Ale wraps his head and stops the bleeding for the moment and takes him back to base. He loses his eye but recovers. The Statesmen don't know exactly where he is from. If he is in an evil organization or not, and because of this, they hold him captive until they find out. Until later, when Eggsy and Merlin come across the Statesmen and find him. He is still the same Harry Hart. No amnesia.
That would've been much easier to swallow, not a bad idea!
Carl grimes moment
@@RennsReviews Hi man. I was wondering if you have a video planned for the third Kingsman film? (called The Kings Man which stars Ralph Fiennes and is a prequel to the first two films and also came out last year.)
wasn’t it revealed he was faking the brain glitch
@@CoolJoshido212 He wasn't faking it just gets cured also where on earth did u get the term "Brain Glitch"
"I already feel like this movie is keeping me at an arms length"
*Shows arm flying off body*
You sly dog you
Just the fact that they put in all the star power is enough to make me NOT want to see it. That Elton John part was fucking brutal. I'd hate to use 'cringe' because even that word is 'cringe worthy'.
JesusVEIVO has
*clever editing*
Poppy’s Diner and that burger sequence could’ve been the whole plot of the movie. Remember when simcards killed shit loads of people in order to stop global warming in the first movie? What if Poppy made burgers out of people to prevent overpopulation and solve world hunger?
Oh no, Long Pig is people
It’s the same threat? Why have a different villain that is trying to accomplish the same threat, it’s not fresh.
The romance between eggsy and that princess felt super forced. They could’ve had it that he and roxy were dating secretly, and they could perhaps kill her off still, and that would give eggsy more of a drive to shutdown the golden circle and get his revenge, while he and Lancelot at one point getting into an argument about how eggsy broke the rules and let himself be compromised, and that it shows why the kings men cannot be romantically involved with anyone.
It ain't that kind of movie bruv
Now THAT movie I wanna see
Nah, that would be fridging Roxy. I'd rather no romantic subplot at all
@@aswaney7449 actually, no romance subplot would make it better
Actually could've been a good character arc for Eggsy to go on. The whole "Super Spies don't have real romances" could be quite compelling if handled well.
Unfortunately, like what they said, "This ain't that kind of movie".
This video has no information on actual studio interference, just speculation and opinion. It should be titled "Why I Didn't Like Kingsman: The Golden Circle". I was expecting something like the 'Exploring' series from 'GoodBadFlicks'. That guy does deep research.
Go watch his video speculating on how Dead Rising 4 was made in just 1 year and you will find that some of his speculations are spot on. You think that just because it's speculation that nothing he says matters and it's all wrong unless he has 100% proof like jeez dude have some ability to think for yourself without having to have a certified document with every criticism.
honestly i was thinking that my self
Yes, you're correct in that it's all speculation. But that seems exactly like a Hollywood idea, especially since the first one was great.
someone didn't watch the full video
Also, it's not the like first one was a masterpiece.
"this agent movie isnt realistic" woah
I’m dead
Considering the visuals from the first one about how exploding heads are supposed to look like, realism is something I wouldn’t expect from the sequel.
Its not about lack of realism that's issue. Its the fact that this movie is terrible for no good reason considering its a sequel to a great movie
The problem is that it's not realistic within its own world. Not that it isn't realistic compared to real life.
When a piece of media creates its own set of rules, it cannot break those rules unless it has a very very good reason to. Something can be super fantasy and still feel "realistic" because it sticks very closely to the core rules it sets up. If a piece of media constantly breaks or invents rules, then it feels "unrealistic" because the world the story takes place in has no realism to it. It doesn't treat itself as an alternate universe with its own set of rules, rather it treats itself as a dream where things don't have to make sense, and all plot and interactions feel meaningless because at any point some rule can vanish or be invented willynilly to change everything up so that none of it mattered in the first place.
So yes, saying it isn't realistic can be a valid critizism. Movies about magic or people with superhuman abilities sometimes are more realistic than movies that attempt to take place in an actual real world settings.
Nobody is talking about realism, they’re talking about playing within the rules of the universe.
Matthew Vaughn said he's had this planned as a trilogy from the start.
As a great man once said: "not a great plan".
Yeah but the studio definitely watered down his creative vision. I do not buy for a second that this was Matthew Vaughn’s original vision.
Matthew Vaughn hates doing sequels
@@MrMoneyclips then why does he keep making more Kingsman movies and talking about all the spin-offs and even TV series he has planned?
@@henryfeil5616 Mr. Krabs voice: “Money!”
8:38 when I saw the movie I was completely fine with seeing the kingsmen cry; kind of sick and fucking tired of the same stoic heroes where nothing phases them and they're obviously sociopaths.
I feel like you forgot to really get into how studio interference affected anything, aside from just empty speculation on how people imagine corporate execs talking to one another. And while Golden Circle definitely wasn't as good as the first movie, it's not nearly as bad as you make it out to be. The first was already a huge exaggeration of Bond movies for fun, and had many silly moments...the guy is even awkwardly offered anal sex while rescuing the girl in the first movie. The second one just goes much more extreme in the silly direction. These movies aren't serious spy thrillers.
misterkeebler I don’t give this movie a pass. It’s your opinion that it wasn’t that bad, and in my opinion it’s really fucking terrible. And this is coming from a huge fan of the first one
Aye he’s very harsh on it
I agree with you, Keebler. I'm 7 minutes into this review, which is titled about studio interference, but I'm not getting the impression it's about studio interference. Plus, I don't think the reviewer figured out it's a satire on male spy fantasies, a total subversion.
It's about 30 minutes in, but it's there. The first 30 seem to be rehashing the movie, and then he finally gets to the point.
@@AvgJoeCrowe Seems pointless to take so long to get to the point.
"Nobody wants a Kingsman cry." "Nobody wants to see Colin Firth act like a fool" "Nobody wants a Kingsman settling down" You assume too much, man. Those disgressions were actually fun to watch. Otherwise it's another stock action comedy. And the fact that they brought Firth back was one of my reasons to watch this film.
TGC was quite entertaining overall, the only thing that did bug me was how easily were the Kingsmen destroyed. Now THAT was pathetic.
Xanderall At least they would have done it in the third movie, because I really did not care about anyone (except Roxy)
I went into this movie without seeing the first one, and quite frankly I was disappointed beyond belief as I had friends saying that Kingsman 1 was brilliant and wanted to see the second one.
I saw the Kingsmen cry, but I couldn't care less about them. Colin Firth's acting made him seem boring and pathetic, he wasn't a fun character to watch. Statesmen were also boring and pointless. Action scenes were good, but that's all this movie had, silly action scenes with incredibly boring scenes in-between.
The thing is that absurd "comedy" movies don't make for good dramas and character deconstructions is a silly thing to add into it. I don't agree with this video mentioning the Bond movies, because Kingsman 2 was simply way too absurd in everything it did and I'd liken it more to a parody movie like the scary movie series, purely based on my impression of Kingsman 2.
Xanderall I agree with u... This is probably the best comment I read so far
Ayden Christopher thanks for teaching this stupid guy a lesson like no one wants to hear his opinion about how he hates the movie he's just making a lot of people mad... He talks in a way that's like he could do better than that but I'm sure he can't even make a 30 mins movie. Sorry for the long comment but I really do agree with you
Galaxy_ Wolf75 yo man thx for hearing me out bro
I'm just gonna say that I totally disagree with a huge percent of the video (maybe 80% to 90% of its whole) but I'm not gonna say that you're wrong because I can understand this is your opinion over the movie and obviusly will respect it.
And everything with the studio requesting to Vaughn is all about "love"
What did u think of the movie?
@@dislexiaboi775 no no no... he’s not gonna give his opinion, but the video is the wrong opinion. 80% of this video makes no sense, why you ask? Because fuck you
wow... the title of this video should be how i hated Kingsman the golden circle because it didn't match my personal expectations and my one-sided perspective...
i mean, the movie sure does has it's problems, but this criticism is almost as bad as cinemasins...
Being fair, Cinimasins isn't really criticism, it's just poking fun at a movie to make us laugh.
Renn isn’t good at criticism, look at his critique of the annual pass of Destiny 2, it’s purely him not liking certain activities, that’s it
@@iterationfackshet1990 Bad example.
@@vithederg not necessarily. Plenty of people have made videos saying this is wrong. I recommend checking those out and seeing if you like them then. You don't have to just saying.
@@fellowhuman4970 I get it, but that doesn't mean I no longer enjoy them. Still, Cinema-sins and Renn's Reviews aren't fair comparisons. Cinema' has the intention of entertaining you, while Renn tries to make actual criticism in an enjoyable fashion. If anything, Renn is just a bit too pretentious, while Cinema' REALLY reaches with what they say sometimes.
Your use of Snake Eater for the "epic spy music as the camera zooms in to her hymen holder" was perfect. What a thrill.
I was also weirdly excited about hearing the music from 007: NightFire when you're climbing up a building.
"They made death not matter"
*Shows how Colin Firth's 'death' badly affected him psychologically*
"No one wants to see this"
To be fair, he meant "nobody's deaths are permanent". Having Firth go through the amnesia stuff was, in my opinion, a necessary evil to make me not completely hate the decision to bring him back.
All this means for the future of the franchise, though, is that fans right now are basically saying "Ah, what the hell? Bring back Merlin and Roxy in the next one, who cares?" Which, given Merlin died *AFTER* Firth's and Whiskey's revivals, completely robs his sacrifice of any weight.
I'd be down for roxy coming back. We technically never saw her die like we did merlin and being in kingsman HQ theres a high chance that theres some form of bombproof shelter incase of emergency. Plus she didn't get a good run beside somes side quests. like to see more of her if they make a next film and bring her back.
Why the hell haven't the Statesmen provided their brain injury treatment to the public? How many people needlessly die in that world because they are keeping it secret?
I'm pretty sure they explained in the movie that they couldn't just bring any dead person back to life. The body still had to be fresh.
John Muller To answer that. I think the most reasonable answer is that people need to die. The last movie was about how there's too many of us to sustain ourselves. Having a cure for death would make overpopulation an even bigger problem because then that would mean there has to be a culling like Samuel Jackson wanted to keep the population under control.
22:16 This reminds me on TTT when a randomkill accidentally kills a traitor.
T posing spy popping out of thin air itensifies
So you didn't notice that Charlie was from the first movie aswell?
OK, I have to comment, I was expecting a serious breakdown of examples of where the studio interefered with the director's vision for this film, not someone's "I hate this bit because it doesn't agree with where they should have gone" rant.
To put it quite simply, yes, you have missed the point of what Kingsman is about, it is neither a parody nor an homage, at least not as a whole. There are elements of both of that in different parts, admittedly, but the main aim of it all was to simply show a more realistic representation of how someone would react to finding out that all these super-spy shenanigans is actually real; hey, he gets to bed a princess, in the first film which is homage in the sense of all these fabulous women that spies get to seduce, but then parodied with her proclivities; the real point, however, is how does it proceed if you found you'd actually met someone that you hit it off with, that's what this film was about, how do you combine living a real life with this extreme of a profession.
You missed the point about Harry, for example, getting lost in complaining about the mechanism to bring back. He has suffered massive trauma, he is suffering from PTSD, he has lost an eye and so his depth perception is gone and he needs time to adjust and learn how to guage distances correctly; you're expecting him to shrug it off as a minor hindrance and be stabbing people in the head with a combat knife, 5 seconds after regaining his memories. The film is showing that there are consequences to your actions, both good and bad.
Harry isn't fighting fit, he and his compatriots are both questioning his abilities; Eggsy has fallen in love with someone he could never have expected to have even met, in his old life, he now has to figure out how to balance that relationship with saving the world (again).
So, no, Kingsman is not a James Bond film with a "street" styling to the wallpaper, it's more than either a parody or an homage, it does both and then goes beyond that. If you wanted a James Bond film, go watch one.
Thank you, I came for the same reason, and was similarly disappointed. This movie has a lot of obvious flaws due to difficulties in production, making plenty of material for an interesting video. This guy obviously put no time into researching his material, because on my way out of the theater I looked into why Channing Tatum was in the film for such a small sliver of screen time, and I immediately discovered that scheduling conflicts forced his role to be downsized drastically, and Whiskey was written in to replace him. Rather than a thoughtful examination, I got an incredibly amateurish rant.
Not so much fun for paying moviegoers to watch amateur screenwriters expose why they shouldn't be paid for continually making shit movies.
So, your contribution is an overly long-winded way of saying, "I didn't like it!" Thanks for letting us all know through your incredibly constructive criticism.
The word yer looking for is 'Pastiche'- and I gotta agree, that is what the movie is and what this reviewer misses
@@zenksren8206 are you referring to Jane goldman j+
I actually thought the song was awesome in the fight, and I hate country music.
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Holy crap I just realized ive been watching this for 25 minutes and still have another 15
First movie: genius movie, good action scenes, great stroy, great characters erc
Second Movie: Dumb fun
Sure it was not a great movie but atleast I got a laugh out of it 🤷♂️
Actually, its horrible that its dumb fun, because it being dumb fun shits on all the expectations from the first movie.
@@Yodalemos I agree
When a movie is created to satirize a genre, while standing on its own in that genre, to devolve into the dumb fun they were satirizng, is even worse than just being bad.
laugh? I only laughed because of how bad it was.
"It's like watching your dad lose a fight" Wow, that's a good analogy. It watched these movies back to back last month and that's actually what it felt like.
Fun fact: The President at 20th Century Fox, the man who has fucked up many of Fox's movies in the last decade or so is named Tom Rothman. There are directors who flat out REFUSED to work with Tom Rothman because he will literally ruin everything about your film, either a returning actor is replaced because they can't be on set within the next 5 minutes and 42 seconds because time is money after all, cut your film from the epic 2 hours and 30 minutes that you needed to tell your whole story down to about 90 minutes or so that way he can play the movie more times in one day at each theater because time is money after all, and has, in many times before said the immortal phrase "Fuck the fans". Unfortunately he isn't the one that killed The Golden Circle. You see, Tom Rothman finally left 20th Century Fox.....and instead got a Job with Sony pictures....the people who made The Amazing Spider-man films....and canceled that Popeye movie in favor of the Emoji movie.
So I guess now directors are going to flock back over to 20th century Fox while avoiding Sony like the plague, I know the Resident Evil movies were always bad but from what I've heard the final one had all of Tom Rothman's grubby little practices all over it.
He's also the guy who didn't want Deadpool to talk ruining the character in X-Men Origins and he didn't allow the Sentinels in the movies because he was convinced that people don't want to see giant robots. Fuck him to hell.
Its proven Rothman is a fucking dumbass
haha wow, so turns out Spiderman 2 actually was connected
General Banana now I know why it was shit
@@DeepEye1994 We saw them in Days of Future Past at least. I'm just hopeful he wasn't involved with that film.
"The final fight was terrible"
Lost me there. It was a really well-choreographed scene, dude.
Mr. Hoxton no it’s was it
The happy cringy song removed all tension from the fight scene,
How does he lose you when it was already near the end of the review?
@@Mr_Bones. and acknowledges it as at least _"very well choreographed"_ word for word
_derp_
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@@LordMoldyButt18 sooooo.... do you have any of your own material?
@@mrcrazyk1ng just your dad's.... he's giving it a good go. However I'm bored and he's now confused and considering leaving your mum..
@@Jackjack530 Wow, funny.
@@SVENY fanx....
Dude, Merlin's death scene was freaking heartbreaking. I actually shed a tear.
Well, bully for you.
I wish I had your eyes so I wouldn't have to see all the stupid that surrounded it.
Although this covered many issues, it missed my biggest beef with this film; the lack of consequences from the first. You had a doomsday weapon active for, what, maybe a minute? How many people killed each other during this time, what was the population loss, what effect did this have? Likewise, the world's politicians went pop. As did business owners, pop stars, etc. What was the fallout? How was the world changed? And, what happens when people go looking for the organization that clearly stopped it (since theyhad to let the captives out of those cells didn't they? They would have seen their rescuers). Instead, you don't get so much as a mention or reference. Not even "And so, the President of the British Republic announced..." on the news or something like that (since it's implied the royal family were all killed).
First off, these movies are supposed to be light-heart entertainment fests. Not an actual outlook into the possible real world consequences. Also, they're adaptations of the Kingsman comic book series by Mark Millar. Most comic books and their movies don't care about real world consequences. How many people died during the alien invasion of New York in Avengers or Slokovia in Avengers 2 but 20 people die in Civil War and shit hits the fan? They're just movies so sit back and be entertained or don't, just don't whine when you aren't... move on.
But it was such an interesting setting and an interesting idea they could have done so much with. Consider a world where suddenly the population's been betrayed by their elite, think of the consequences; especially on a very secretive and elitist spy organization. There's entire realms of possibliities, and... not even so much as an implication.
Good point. There would be a huge power vacuum and all sorts of groups vying to be the top dog.
Finally someone asking the real questions, isn´t it better for a sequel to take place in a world with consequences? they had a very valid plot in their hands for a good sequel and let it go, a nasty villain trying to takeover the world after the dead of the elite, then introducing the statesman as an allied spy organization, pushing eggsy to develop as a character and giving some protagonism to the other kingsman, expanding their own universe if, as a studio, you want so desperately to make a new laying golden egg chicken.
Actually, the plot of civil war uses the consequenses of the events from New York and Sokovia incidents to build the conflict, the UN its in the process of aproving the Sokovia Accords which states that The Avengers shall no longer be a private organization. Instead, they'll operate under the supervision of a United Nations panel, As one might expect, the not every Avenger is down to sign the Accords. Tony Stark agrees with the accord but Steve Rogers, on the other hand, is very opposed to the governmental oversight because They’ll lose their ability to choose when to interviene. then other shit happens and they start the Civil War. Dude that is the exact freaking point of an MCU, Continuity between Heroes, Villains and the World they live in. Let me give you even a dumber example, Transformers, the first part takes the transformers from Secret Of State to CZcams Celebrities, consequence one, they become public they fight with an army elite force to hunt decepticons and shit. then in the next movie they become the enemy in the public eye, because colateral damages of their war with decepticons. more consequences. after that I dont care, because Transformers is shit but it help me making my point.
I just realised something immediately after the part in this video about the land mine. They're in the jungle, why can't they just find something like a rock or a lump of wood heavy enough to hold the trigger of the land mine down so that when Merlin freezes the trigger temporarily instead of sacrificing himself they put the rock or lump of wood on it instead? That way the mine doesn't go off, Merlin survives and the Kingsmen have an extra guy to help take down Poppy, I'm no expert in land mines though so I have no idea if that would work but it's got to be better than killing off another character of the franchise played by a well known actor.
They could have come back after to save him too
This video quite honestly has one of my favorite thumbnails I’ve ever seen and I’m not afraid to admit I watch it frequently just for that thumbnail.
I've said it before, all it would have taken to make swallowing the 'Alpha Gel' McGuffin more believable was for someone to ask Halle's character "Where did you get THAT from?", and she would answer "Some friends we made in Roswell, NM in the 40s, but we have a limited supply".
Yeah, probably a little too MIB, but if you're going to introduce this and robotics,cybernetics, why not?
Chup Smith JFK would have a word with you
Wild Gringo Actually, I thought about that as well. If somebody ask about JFK, just have any member of the Statesman smile knowingly, then walk away without saying anything ^_^
I think Vaughn just doesn't do sequels well. From his movies he's good at introducing characters and building on that. See X-men, Kick-ass, and layer cake, kingsman, I think with this formula he does things very well and creatively, but once the formula is lost, he's a bit more lost. Still a huge fan of his.
Also great video man!
The Monk Way kind of unrelated but did you hear the quote from Matthew Vaughn about him and his crew getting too caried away with the film?
Kingsman 2 is the first time that Matthew Vaughn directed a sequel to one of his own movies, Kick-ass 2 and Days of Future Past were both only producer credits for Matthew Vaughn. I cam't speak for layered cake though, I'm not familiar with it, but producers don't realize that if they give Matthew Vaughn full creative control, then every movie would be amazing(at least that's what my bias leads me to believe)
Kingsman was a surprise hit. Vaughn wasn’t going to make a sequel so when kingsman got really popular, ig changes had to be made
The Monk Way cool
Vaughn has only made one sequel.
It's frankly far too early to make bold claims about his inability to ever make a good one.
That said, Golden Circle doesn't inspire hope.
Taron Edgerton (Eggsy) also admitted that the Eggsy "romance" was a bad idea.
*complains that the movie "isn't what you expect for a kingsman movie"*
*also complains its too much like the last kingsman movie*
John Alonzo get lost mate u are so stupid and dumb also get lost. Like u suck so much omg
Y u mad?
And stupid and dumb are pretty much the same thing
Litfam 125 stfu mate
Bringing back harry was pointless, the political stance was and will always be pointless, bringing back the princess that eggsy did anal with as his girlfriend is utterly pointless too, it's just poorly set up from the get-go
The movie definitely wasn’t great but definitely not terrible
Exactly my thoughts. It was entertaining but nowhere near as in depth as the first it felt a bit shallow and weak but still fun to watch
I think Chaning Tatum has a clause in his contracts that they have to use a John Denver song in his movies.
I know right?
Good one though.
You said at the beginning that the director wanted to be safe and not do anything out of the ordinary with this movie, but then half your review is complaining about how it isn’t like any other Bond or spy film, which the first movie states over and over.
He said the studio not the director re-watch the video and get it right man, big difference studio vs director.
the criticism still stands. Whether it was the director or not, Alec is right.
Of course it stands, his option will always stand. All I'm trying to say is he said "the director" when it clearly should be "the movie studio", very small difference I know but still come on should be right no? And yes criticism still stands like I said, but not the way Alec phrased it. Mathew Vaughn is a incredible director in my mind and personal option. I don't think he would ever try to make this movie for "money" and this video never stated that once, and I don't think putting blame on him is really fair or even possible due to the studio having a very large amount of input and focusing more on money rather then giving Mathew the time, freedom, and room he needs to make a epic stand out spy film. If Alec changed his comment to "the studio" or something I would totally agree with that!
Alec M
Who cares. It was still garbage compared to the 1st one.
Where is the studio interference? Misleading video
Revealing Harry is alive in the trailer
He spends 40 minutes explaining it.
@@samuelbarber4154 not really he just says why he doesn't like it
they kill Roxy but keep the princess -_- how absurd
xanseviera Eh. Life.
anal strikes man
Yeah, I liked the sex jokes, but they could have easily come from character that wasn't 2 dimensional.
you cant survive an explosion dude
If Colin Firth can survive a headshot then Mark Strong and whoever the fuck plays Roxy can survive an explosion.
Love this video. The thing that baffled me most about the plot was the fact that the Kingsman had to release the antidote even though Poppy needed to release the antidote anyway, otherwise she'd have no customers and her dull motive would be entirely pointless.
I just realized...did anyone notice that Harry's darkened glasses kept changing eyes over which one he was blind in?
Actually, no it does not, at least not in the movie. More often than not in online videos you will find people re-cropping or flipping the footage to escape copyright strikes, even when it's fair use (like a commentary such as this one). That's why on some shots it seems to change. Do you think a big production like this will just not notice such simple continuity mistake? No, they sometimes even have special people on set making sure everything is the same between takes. *I'm not a lawyer, don't quote me.
I’m only 8 minutes in and he is definitely not lying. This just painful to watch. I thought I was missing out but I saved my self from a very traumatic experience.
Can't say I hated TGC at all, but given the amount of effort put into this video I can't bash you either, great job, dude~
Yeah I wouldn't say awful, just not particularly good either.
Then again I liked airplane 2 so take that as you will.
Gibedupusib0ss she is an off screen kill and could easily have survived
I think so too. The cut between her jumping off the bed and the mansion exploding could be a jump about 30 seconds later.
They really fuc**d up when Roxy died. Nice video by the way, I have the same opinion of this movie, and I enjoyed more the first.
Lmasotta I've heard they will bring her back in sequel ... and they also want to bring back Merlin ... "because he didn't die, just lost his legs"
Inb4 Kingsman 4 is just a bunch of cyborgs running around
gamefan987 Oh no please... no...
They better bring the fucking pug back. And give him robot legs. They all jumped in special bullet proof cocoon missiles that shot them from the explosions, of course. Merlin did the same, naturally.
Fuck this fucking movie.
They went GoT unnecessarily, IMO. I honestly don't know why bringing back a dead Colin Firth was a good idea in the first place.
Haha, literally forgot they have mine sweeper n I watched it twice. I guess it is so dumb that my brain defence mechanism decided to remove that memory. WOW JUST WOW.
Also, I think it is necessary to reference saving the world thing. It is a big deal. Considering a lot of ppl died. Just poorly executed, they referenced like it was nothing, just another day on planet Earth.
The director could have just taken the mine sweeper out of the movie. I have no idea why he would add it to the movie.
@@RiseUpToYourAbility Also, why hide it as a baseball bat? They literally went straight to Poppy's place, and are you telling me a briefcase with an SMG inside, a highly advanced umbrella, or a baseball with a suspicious red light on it wouldn't have been caught at customs even if they did have to take a public airline, or at a border inspection?
I liked the fact that Eggsy settled down with the princess. It was a break from what you're expecting, which I felt was exactly what Kingsmen was all about in the first film. And really, dude... I hope that was a joke because I wrinkled my nose. Least charming thing ever to be like Bond and his hoards of women or striving to be.
I will say though that I was annoyed that they just destroyed everything about the English Kingsmen and supposedly (or definitely if this is the last movie) killed off Roxy... because.
nightinthetwilight I agree, Renn wasn’t entirely wrong but definitely nitpicked a film that isn’t taking itself seriously and making fun of spy tropes.
The princess relationship added nothing to the movie.
@@adeptdamage3669 what are you talking about it brings up an excellent point of "should I be a spy or be with my beloved" and that's not an easy question for eggsy to answer bc if he is a spy he can belp save the world but he gives up being happy, like dude it such a good point of the movie and the ending with him saving the world one "last" time just to retire and get married is perfect
Fun fact: Not all men want to be "charming" or be in a "relationship." Bond is cool because he gets what he wants and dips without ever taking any shit. You can act like men that don't act feminine are just "suppressed assholes" but at the end of the day those "suppressed assholes" usually make a lot more money than you and do a lot more high profile cool shit than some married shmuck because he isn't dividing his attention for some needy bitch. Hince why real life Special Forces and military marriages end rather quickly, usually because their wives can't handle not being the center of attention for any amount of time. My own mother basically harassed my dad into leaving the Air Force. He had to take medical retirement and pretend that he was forced out over getting a chance to stay cause my mom COULDN'T STAND NOT BEING THE CENTER OF ATTENTION :D. and now she hates him because now he's recognized her narcissistic tenancies and stopped giving into it.
But you know keep believing Hollywood they totally wouldn't want to manipulate your perception of reality by constantly showing you a feed of manipulated scenes that they attempt to make you relate to real life to make a quick buck now would they?
I love Magical Michael!
9:25 Yeah,but they loved him even more in 21 Jump Street.
I think you need to make up your mind on the Colin Firth revival. You complain that it removes consequences, and then complain - at length - that it has consequences.
Also, a large chunk of your complaints boil down to "this isn't a Bond movie" - which might be a valid point if we were looking at 007 working for MI6. And, minor nitpick: Bond has broken down in tears - over the death of his wife.
I could go on, but, for me, the bottom line is that I saw this movie and Thor Ragnarok on the same day, and, of the two, I enjoyed this movie more. Not as fresh and original as the first one? Sure. Terrible movie? No.
People who look for issues tend to find them, even when they're not there. Thid guy really went out of his way to find as much to complain about as possible, and it shows.
rmsgrey By killing the character, then reviving him, the movie nets a consequence. That consequence being that all tension is lost because death holds no meaning, or consequence. He wasn't varied in his vocabulary, but he was pretty straightforward in the way he complained. In a genre movie, you also expect certain things. Many of the events in The Kingsman the Golden Circle go against genre convention without adding anything to replace or to make it interesting. His examples of other spy movies weren't actually about the genre, but about characterization.
So when he says "this is supposed to be a power fantasy" and makes an explicit comparison to James Bond, he's not actually saying that he thinks the movie should be more like a James Bond movie?
And, sure, Tequila's first death in this movie had no real consequence - and it's not like Roxy/Lancelot is any deader than "missing, presumed" - but Harry's death having no consequence? Half the movie is about the consequences - and a large chunk of the video is complaining about the consequences - Harry's amnesia, his messed up co-ordination, his butterfly flashes, Eggsy not trusting his judgement in shooting Tequila... All of that is consequences of his death and resurrection.
And Tequila still dies pretty convincingly permanently at the end. Merlin's also on the "probably really dead" end of the scale.
My point is two-fold:
1) You can't both assert that something has no consequences and then complain about all its consequences
2) Alphagel only works for a fairly well-defined set of possible deaths, so it's more adding "being shot through the head" to the list of "survivable deaths" (like last being seen trying to escape before the building you're in explodes, or jumping off something tall but not being shown to hit the bottom, or "never found the body").
Yes, it means you can never be 100% sure that someone's going to stay dead (and not be replaced by a clone, or a time-travelling-twin or a dimensional duplicate or a really good shapeshifter or turn out to have been really good at special effects and faked their own death) but that's nothing new in fiction generally. And the other side is that Harry's return wasn't cheap or easy - the cost/consequence may have been less than relegation to flashbacks, but there was still a real cost. If you want a cheap revival with no dramatic consequences, then you should be looking at Charlie, not at Harry...
You’re my new favorite person for saying “ya ha oh”
you are comparing it to james bond but one of the best things about the series is that it avoids classic spy cliches at least to some extent
Umm... i thought it goes STRAIGHT into the cliches.
Commmander 64 Cliche: Agents Don’t cry. Movie: Fuck you here’s them crying. Cliche: returning agents are always badasses. Movie: Here’s the OG badass messing up because during his downtime he lost some skills.
"bond doesn't settle down" Movie: Eggsy settles down
I personally liked Kingsman: The Golden Circle, it was fun for me, and I liked Merlin's character in the movie, funniest Scottish person since the Demoman from TF2.
-_-
Alex XLVI it his opinion , and yeah the movie was abysmal
his death Was FUCKING SPECTACULAR EH
killed a loved character to draw more viewers
@@dude6966 How would killing a character draw more viewers
I actually enjoyed the film. It’s dumb, fun entertainment. I love hearing more about films I like, especially critically. Great video!
I liked it but they shit on the original film with this one.
Spencer Kennedy imo it was the most boring and uninteresting movie I have seen. I love Blade Runner 2049 a movie just slightly longer of a runtime and much slower in pace...
The film felt like it was made by disney
domini384 nah more like Sony pics
4:42 "Just keep eating your popcorn and don't think about it."
That like dislike ratio holy Jesus
7:57 Yeah, I kind of hated that. But hopefully, she`ll be back for the third entry with more depth.
Nice video. Disagreed with like 90% of it, but well done.
I agree with you 100%
Yea, only thing I really agreed with was the fact that the ability to practically bring someone from the dead is not a good idea in this kind of movie
Well, it was never shown/revealed that he "really died". Even in real life you can "easily" (more or less) survive a headshot if not executed properly. There are a lot of cases of people who survived headshots, fatally or not. Maybe lost an eye or not, maybe didn't have any disadvantages if you're lucky. If you're really unlucky you can even lose eyesight in both eyes and still survive. Without any other damage.
haha same, i stopped cus i wasnt agreeing with many of his points. I thought him ending up with the princess was pretty bad ass
Same here
you realize the entire point of Kingsman was that it's a parody of james bond stuff, right? The first movie literally had the line "Ain't that kind of movie, bruv"
That's why he turns out to be NOT a total player.
willyolio plus nowhere has it said that Kingsmen have to be lotharios. The agency itself was founded by several families and is set up as a legacy, so people should be in relationship.
"I'm still in a dream! SNAKE EATER!"
Did which of Colin Ferry’s eyes was blacked out change between the Elton Jon scene and the next or was it just flipped for the video?
There are tons of movies that start off with action. Did you see Deadpool?
This review was 15 times worse than the movie.
Did he see the first fucking Kingsman movie? Where it started off with a high tension raid?
He's apparently never heard of First Act Hook. Which is odd for someone who seems to review movies....
Am I the only person that didn't hate Kingsman The Golden Circle?
It definitly had its downs though.
Honestly I really liked the movie
Nopes, I liked it also. Ok, so it's not as good as the first one, but it's still fun, has a lot of nonsense that reminds me of the 60's brit series, like the Avengers for example and the old Bond villains and Poppy is indeed a super nonsense villain and very cool characters and that was made me love the first movie. The only thing that i didn't like was Merlin dying, but oh boy what a dead scene it was, brilliant.
Compared to the first one, it's quite bad. I gave it a 2 out of 5 when I saw it, and everyone I know that saw it didn't like it, either. Might be something to it...
@JustWasted3HoursHere We tend to surround ourselves with alike minded sorts, and there is a known relation between region and ideology.
Meh... Most of my friends are like-minded, but not all. Still, I don't know anyone who saw the movie that liked it.
For my friend’s birthday, I paid for both of our tickets for Kingsman 2, and while I was watching this movie, I was screaming on the inside...
This is almost all just a list of examples your subjective dislike of various artistic choices. Just so you know that’s not what people generally call a review or legitimate movie criticism
Okay but isn’t the point of making a review stating your own subjective opinion about something?
And furthermore isn’t watching a review an invitation to see someone else’s opinion and perspective? Why watch a review if you’re just going to complain that he’s stating his own thoughts and opinions.
Captain Phasma to start a discussion. You can't honestly just see from one point of view
Some Reviewers try too be as objektive as possible and try too analyze the Themes, the Acting, Cammerawork, and other Stuff and give a realistic take on the Medium. I like Herkules and the Aladdin TV Series, but obbjektive they arent very good, ore at least just average.
@@Sunaki1000 Do you even own a spell check?
im not english native, OK?
Wow I can't believe I just watched 41 minutes long criticism video. that should be your success.
thanks for telling me that this isa a 41 minute video xD ...
WTF THIS IS A 41 MIN VID!! INDNT EVEN KNEW
Can't stand the way this guy talks... turn it to 1.5x speed and enjoy watching his vidss a lot more.
Galaxy Gaming What are you talking about? Calm down you fucking moron.
thanks for tip dude
I'm going to be the 100th person to say it but I enjoyed the sequel. With that being said, I enjoyed your video and it's clear that you put a lot of work into it and made great points!
Edit: Also the editing and timing on your jokes... just beautiful.
Honestly, despite the numerous flaws with the movie, I don't see how this isn't worth watching. Granted it's not nearly as tightly written as the first it still has some great moments (even if there's no church scene which is a crime)
Like many others have said here, people can survive gunshot wounds to the head especially with mitigating factors. But if they went with something close to sensible that's one less cute spy gadget scene.
Honestly makes me sad, The first movie was amazing and different but the sequel is just lazy hollywood. I don't hate the movie but its nothing close to the first one. There was so much potential
also as wacky as the first movie was this movie was just plane stupid. We go from badass hand to hand and gun combat to fighting robot dogs.
Ok, let's clear some things up here, people don't seem to quite understand why I make the James Bond comparisons, maybe I should have elaborated, but I was trying to keep things nice and tight to keep the video as short as possible.
So the Kingsman is not a "parody" of James Bond films, it is an homage, a loveletter, to the spy movie genre as a whole, and this movie is a disgrace to the genre, it didn't stick to it's roots nearly as faithfully as the first movie did, and as a result it lost it's way, which is why I make the JB comparisons.
Some people seem to think I went into this movie expecting "James Bond but funny" when in reality, I came into this movie thinking "I hope it's half as good as the 1st one"
I hope that clears some things up, but thanks for watching kiddos!
But this video was quite the change of pace, I'll be back to talkin' videogames in my next vid, but lemme know how you liked this video!
Also gotta give a big thank you to "Pacific the casual gamer" for the thumbnail and Golden Girls pic, and to "Average Pixel" for some very valuable info! You should go check both of those guys out!
RennsReviews have you played warframe ? Its better than destiny 2
Loved the MGS3 music during the "butterfly scenes" great video as usual!
It's a very good review, you make a lot of excellent points. I do think you missed a lot of things in your research that sadly place the blame squarely on the shoulders of Mathew Vaughn. This is a movie that was originally 4 hours long. That kind of thing doesn't happen when a studio is in tight control, they want it to be as short as possible. This is a case where a director had no pushback and ended up with a bloated cartoon because no one denied any of his whims. Great movies come from a good amount of back and forth. Star Wars had an initial edit that was unwatchable. Luckily George's wife took it away from him, got some other editors in and they fixed it. the actors actually pushed back against the shitty dialogue and made up their own. By the time the prequels came out, George had surrounded himself with sycophants who cower before him and his bad decisions in the behind the scenes footage. His pure, unrestrained vision just ended in bad movies.
You my friend have open my eyes...well I already hated how they just dumb down like to hell all the beloved characters. Too bad.
krin-G
I thought the idea of Kingsman was to poke enough fun at other Agents to be recognizable, while still retaining some kind of serious mentality
I love the use of the Snake Eater theme in the background
Nope, my criticism isn't, that you offered no fixes... It's that showing making-of-footage is supposed to create the illusion that there was some real research put into this, when instead you just showed an overlong opinion piece, with no real proof to your claim of studio interference. Yes, that probably was part of the problem... Anyone could've guessed that, but what you provide as "evidence" doesn't even qualify as circumstantial.
At that point does it matter? His in depth review and criticisms of the entire movie were spot on. The movie was garbage. You can enjoy it, and plenty of people did, but to think that the sequel even remotely matched the greatness of the first is objectively wrong.
And to argue about his "research", his assertion that the studio interfered is in my opinion, small potatoes in comparison to how the movie came out as a finished product, which he represented well.
Having fun, hitting that straw man, Cap?
To the only part of your comment, actually addressing my argument: Yup, it does matter. It's the title of his friggin' video.
Max Power Are you really trying to say that none of his critisicms are legitimate? And he obviously DID point out where studio interference hurt the film, such as in the case of Colin Firths' character.
Its not his job to fix this movie
Actually, he showed quite a few scenes that make this movie look like shit.
HAHAHA completely new joke where you bleeped out that guy nor swearing and left in the swearing.. just refreshing to have almost overlooked a new joke haha
Doesn't mean it wasn't funny. Look at your original sarcastic joke! Ground breaking comedy in a comment, you wimpy genius you!
32:21 I kind of agree and I just watched both films today. I didn't get into either but you are right about the part where they repeated some from the stuff from the first film and I noticed straight away.
I loved the first movie, and was originally excited for the sequel, so I just find it a shame to see what the sequel ended up being in the end. It's really hard to tell if they played things far too safe, or if they tried to make the film as edgy as possible without understanding what made the first film so good.
Some good points are made in this review but I disagree with it tbh. The whole point is showing the weakness in the kingsman, that their only human but them overcoming it. Bringing back CF only added to this. If u don’t like th movie then that is ur opinion but personally I think you are thinking too far into it, u need to just sit back, relax and enjoy watching this.
Ed Shakespeare so they way i understand this, you understand his points, but you think that he should just watch the movie for what it is without analysing it? Without being critical about it?
Any movie which a person says "you can only enjoy it if you turn off your brain" is a bad movie.
Nothing excuses lazy writing. There are movies with great writing and great action, you know.
Why the hell do I want my movie heroes to be ‘only human’? I’m around humans all day, they’re boring and they’re mostly garbage.
@@DBZHGWgamer that's exactly how I explain the resident evil movies. They are awful but a bit of fun to watch.
I remember the advertising for this film being very aggressive, near always would a programme be interrupted by an advertisement for it.
Ethan Stapley didn't help that they gave away the big twist in the fucking posters
Did you dead ass use KC and the sunshine boys as background music? Also do more movie reviews, ya got a new sub
30:12 Does anyone know who this woman is or who her character is?
What irritated me especially about the parachute scene was the fact that a parachute designed to slow a human was able to slow then stop a multi-ton aerial cable car (& within a very short distance)! *sigh* I guess I'll just eat my popcorn.
You're seriously caught up over realism in these films?
LOL! You caught me on exactly what I accuse other people of doing - taking aspects of it too seriously. Boy, is my face red!
And you think the multi-ton aerial cable car would even be able be to spin that fast with safety procedures and its limited speed because the motors arent that powerful so that parachute scene would be redundant.
It's not set in the real world. It's set in the cartoon world of James Bond.
I think that scene would have been fine if they had discussed that plan B was to jump off the mountain and use their parachutes.
"don't do what we expect! surprise me!"
"I expected the kingsman to be elegant! this movie is terrible!"
only one thing
that is not how land mine works
once you step on fuse is ignited and explode no matter you hold your foot on or not
I liked the opening a lot, it jumped you just like a spy would be jumped by an enemy
These arguments were kinda shit because its just you not being able to accept new things, you thinking with the speed of a sloth or you taking things out of context
Yee Yee ass haircut what new things this movie feels like a rehash of the first film
E-FUCKIN-XACTLY... there is literally nothing new in this movie... except from poor plot devices that ruin the suspense and a big meat mincer....
One thing I really hated was killing Lancelot. I hate when movies kill a character like that just for a shock instead of giving the character the time of day. It's kinda how people hate MIB2 for ruining the ending to the first one just so they can have Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith be partners again, or how Alien 3 killed Higgins and Newt offscreen.
I mean what was the point of giving her all that development in the first movie if they just killed her off in the beginning of the next. And there was only one movie, so we only get one movie to actually care about her!
I'd like to see a sequel that throws out the continuity set by a previous bad sequel.
Like what if Star Wars remade the prequel trilogy and invented totally different backstories for Anakin Skywalker and Obi Wan?
That's actually an interesting thought, erase the prequels from canon entirely, they'd still make a ton of money, make very few people angry. Thats really interesting.
The problem with the prequels is that they built a foundation for other good stories, and by destroying that foundation, you would kind of hurt the things that make those stories connect.
Plus, Revenge of the Sith is hilarious, why would you Change that film?
YowLife Productions I was thinking this same question a few years ago because I thought no studio would ever do that but then I found out they did with the Universal Soldier series. It got 2 direct to video sequels which were ignored by the 4th film which got a theatrical release (similar to what happened with the American Pie movies). And then the 4th film, which was a direct sequel to the original, was ignored by the 5th and 6th films which also came out in theaters
you mean like the Clone Wars?
That show basically retconned the idea that the Clonetroopers were bad people created to solely server Palpatine. Instead the clones were soldiers who couldn't control their own minds due to the chips implanted inside them that makes them obey commands.
Punch Down King
Nice
Harry’s eyepatch kept switching eyes!!!
I would have loved if they made the franchise about the stories of each individual agent that sits at the table as a hologram that would have been so bomb
I agree with all your points but I came out loving this film 😁
And "baby pumper" is fucking genius.
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Ephesians 5:4 - Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thank
Deuteronomy 5:11 You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain.
Live With In Christ's Kingdom 754 Holy shit, you ask people on CZcams to not swear and use the Bible to show why? You must be a fun person to be around...
Isn't it Heretical to use God's actual name?
.....Even though I'm fairly certain you spelled and/or pronounced it wrong.
I liked the movie despite it's flaws...
I've got a great one for Live. It comes from our true lord and savior. His third commandment. "Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself." -George Carlin.
First one felt like a modern version of a Roger Moore Bond film. The second one is like a parody of the first Kingsman movie.
Fox execs: You can thank ME for that.
I just noticed that Safety Dance is playing in the background......well played.
No build-up at the start of the movie? the 'Shady guy' was Charlie, Arthur's Kingsman Candidate from the first movie who failed at the train scene
Your jokes get a bit too unecessarily crass at times, but I agree completely with your review. Either the director forgot what made the first film so groundbreaking or the Studio "cleaned it up". Either way I was really looking forward to this sequel and felt like they just made a "Direct to DVD" sequel; minimal risk, as many famous people and over-the-top jokes as could make fans happy, and the most hackneyed, childish, mess of a plot written by TV Executives.
PS. You may want to cite or find some sources. People generally hate accusations (for example, the title you chose) without proof..
It cant be as good as you say if im never heard from it before.
so valentine was thanos then
You brilliant man
Don't know if renn said it but Harry's blacked out glasses lense changes sides
The Baby Bumper conflict is even worse when you see the nano trackers of the first movie.