Switching to a Dumb Phone
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- This is my new phone and I'm sticking with it for a while. No more smartphone... the dumb phone revolution has begun!
Timestamps:
00:00 The Worst Phone and Why I like the phone
01:20 The Overview
05:40 Why I will keep using this phone .
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$400... That took me by surprise. Why would anyone buy this? I wanted a basic 'phone' phone for my business number a few years back and got a really good one with a nice thin design and similarly modern looking screen for less than $30 new.
Exactly. If u want to hate ur phone, just go out in the woods and get some bark and u wouldnt he prone to use it very often at all. Saving u tons of money.
The basic $30 phones are all smartphones
I imagine there's probably an Android based OS that you could flash into modern hardware that similarly limits your functionality and probably gives you much more than 2 days operation time. I mean if I left my screen off all day the battery probably wouldn't dip more than 5%. I get 2 days out of my phone already with about 8 hours screen on time.
@@alaunaenpunto3690 Mine just does texts and phone calls. No apps. It does have Bluetooth though, which is handy for wireless pairing to headsets/cars. Oh, and it also has 2x SIM slots, which was particularly nice for my use case. Doesn't seem to be available to buy any more though, it was the AEG M1220. Cost me £18 from Amazon about 4 years ago.
It to me looks like a swiss company and as I know because I‘m swiss… swiss products that are produced domestically in low volumes are reaally expensive
It’s “bad” by design… the point of it is to enable digital detoxing… so you’re not constantly on your phone while still staying connected… in my opinion it’s too expensive for what it does, but the idea behind it is good.
'Digital detoxing', great phrase.
If you want a digital detox, either train yourself to stop using your smartphone so often by uninstalling social medias and addictive games, or get a Nokia phone or an old basic phone before 2012.
I’d rather buy an old Nokia
@@evilcraftknife5705 I don't think most of them would work to be honest. I don't think they support older protocols. Tech likes to move forward at faster and faster paces. Standards get updated and outdated pretty quickly.
@@b1oh1 The 2G and 3G networks are basically all dead. Only phones that can do 4G could make use of service.
Came across your channel about a month and a half ago to look up tips as a new Linux user, and I've gotta say that I'm utterly inspired by how you not only talk the talk, but are always making the effort to walk the walk! The amount of relief alone in your voice talking about getting away from a smartphone is sounding so incredibly tempting these days.
There are many other "feature phones" with D-pads that achieves this without having the completely unreasonable price tag of $400.
I got my Nokia flip phone from Walmart for $20 and I feel like that’s the perfect price for something like this. I couldn’t imagine what a $400 version of basically the same thing would do for me
@@theunknowngamer2397 It will not only give you a phone detox but it will also detox your bank account ;)
nah, this price tag is kinda NECESSARY for murrican and their consumerism culture.
the more pricey, the merrier
Hey Chris,
Yeah, I’ve heard the same thing from others. They end up back on a smart phone to some extent at least. It will be interesting to see how long it is before you start carrying a smart phone again. 😉
With him being such an avid PC user and living where he doesn't need it for tethering I can see him never needing it for sure. I could see myself not needing it and all honesty I could probably have a tether box & a separate phone but that would cost me just a little bit more each year although I'm pretty sure it'd be worth it.
@@Bawkr Agreed though, in Chris’s case, he simply won’t be able to resist the technology. I retired from trucking over the road two years ago. The smart phone was a boon to me on the road. It was a portable device that could fill many roles. These days, I have a less expensive phone and I am reducing the number of apps on it. Going completely to a dumb phone wouldn’t work for me at this time.
You know what I really miss? The feature phone. It was a little more capable than a dumb phone, but not a smart phone. Like feature phones often were able to do stuff like play music, so I could use it as an MP3 player as well as a phone, that was handy without having the constant distractions of modern smartphones.
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searching "feature phone" in amazon has some hits, but i'm not 100% sure they have hidden tech if they're modern
I really would like to get a feature phone so I'm not as distracted, but still have access to useful things like Google Assistant, Maps, CZcams, and a flashlight and camera. They still seem to be popular in Europe, but they appear to be dead in the US. Which is really disappointing.
@@MaxDad7 look into a phone that runs KaiOS, that might be able to give you what you want. They usually have Google assistant on them but they’re not full on Android smartphones.
@@XoaGray yep. I’ve been looking into those for the last year. They just don’t have much of a market in the US and I’m afraid I’ll have carrier issues.
My smartphone broke in college and I was forced to use a 20 euro non-smart phone for around 6 months. It ended up being pure bliss not to have my eyes glued to a screen 24/7
Honestly, if I stopped using my smartphone, I would just use my computer a lot more to compensate for it lol.
@@PaperBagMan884 That is exactly what happened to me. I'm a dumbphone user, but had to fix the issue with the brain first.
That is understandable and i felt the same. I am Indian and i have lived a good amount in Europe back in the day and i can definitely say Basic phones are used very well to this day in Europe and Asia for very good reasons.
I Personally use both smart phones and keypad basic phones and use them for their strengths. While using the keypad phone, you have more control and balance in your life. You even limit your usage of your smartphone and only use it when it is necessary.
@@PaperBagMan884 i see, thats true , that is how you will have to compensate for that and its fine. I use my smartphone when its needed but when it comes to major calls and communication, i mostly use my basic phone. i do use my computer the most though.
An interesting take. Thank you. From where I'm standing, Pinephone is ''dumb'' enough, I mean it has basic functionality and it is not stormed by ''necessary'' apps. Browser, calendar, messaging app, mail client and a file manager - sounds like a reasonable compromise but still has a certain scalability.
I remember how much I was more productive when I was using my flip samsung phone
It's true these smart phones have too many things that is designed to take your attention away from real life
Loved the video, hope to see more stuff like this, detox ourselves from these smart phones addiction
Time to install linux on it.
I really want to buy a minimalist/dumb phone, but they all seem to just come with the 9 key typing experience. I'd love a minimalist phone that comes with an old blackberry style keyboard....
Titanium pocket
They should come up with the in between phone, just for calls and texting, checking emails and maps. Oh yeah the Linux phones and ROMs Ubunto touch, fits that very well.
"You're better off with nothing, than a smart phone."
OK, that's a 🏆for me ... As I don't have a mobile phone at all.
Totally agree, plus the privacy.
Oh man! What are the odds! Just when i've been browsing through possible dumbphones to replace my current old smartphone, you put out a video like this! You also hit the nail in the head by the end of it, stating the very reason why i want to "downgrade" to dumbphone too x). It eliminates even the smallest urges to procrastinate on projects i want to get finished. Been subscribing your channel for many years now and the content you put out just keeps on being fantastic~
If you decide to get another dumbphone, please make a video of it, as there aren't many youtubers on your quality level making anything related to them :) !
I'd like you to try some of the newer nokia feature phones (heard they're pretty crap even for dumbphones?), Doro's and ofcourse Light Phone 2!
Thank you, Chris. It's good to see some stripped down phones out there.
The rebooted Nokia 3310 from 2018 and 2017 are probably a far better option, and they are waaay cheaper
With my Nokia I get around ten days of battery life with moderate usage. That's a win!
Some things are made bad, ( or good depending on your point of view, Lol), with SmartPhones that you might not expect.
I used to walk along streets, lanes, and back lanes sometimes at night, sometimes late. Once in a while I saw someone doing something they most likely would have preferred no one to see. You don't need a look-out any more. You see the search light used on an approaching persons SmartPhone or hear the film being watched on it.
Maybe some of the simple phones also have good lights? Mine doesn’t. In Germany we have had for years very simple cheap phones intended for older people. I have one of those, I have no smartphone, but I have lots of PCs and Laptops, just a couple new, most old, some very old, all laying around in different places, sometimes used for specific things, and a few that can be easily carried around occasionally, even on cycle trips. That combination works better for me.
A mobile phone is extremely useful, IMO. A PC or laptop also. Too many things I don’t like about SmartPhones to mention, (and in any case, if I do, the CZcams algorithm comment Police Bot always deletes the post! They're on its unlike list, which it doesn’t like)
Very good points on the Smartphone. "Push notifications", I'm learning are what really grabs my time and I lose track. Great video!
Have actually been considering going back to a dumb phone for a while. Issue is at times I have to depend on Lyft or Uber so I can't switch.
One thing I've been experimenting with for productivity particularly for things like CZcams is doing a pomodoro timer and really not checking my phone during that period.
Use a low budget "Smartphone" for Net Apps after DeGing not signing in and a Dumb Phone like the Nokia ones for only Calls SMS and MP3s/FM and Call Recording or whatever! That's about the Only Practical Option that I Can think of now as the latest phones are just worthless for their prices! No headphone jack! No dedicated Micro SD Card Slot! No Call Record or OEM Contacts Phone Dialer SMS Apps! WTF were they Thinking or Smoking too many Chemtrails I wonder!🤔
Yes you can get off your smart phone. It's like stopping smoking or drinking, there's always a reason not to do it. After a week or two it gets easier and like CT says, your productivity will skyrocket.
@@evilcraftknife5705 not quite that simple. Like I say, I need access to Lyft or Uber, If I can find an alternate method to access them, then it'll definitely make switching more possible. Where I live isn't walkable.
@@Vashinator7 Did You Check if It Can be Done Through Browser without Closing Tabs on Exit or Rotate Apps options changed in browser settings! I generally Don't use the madtracker apps that pull GPS Location etc, I just use the Browser after logging in Set Fireproof Site and Enable Notifications on popup then Bookmark so I Stay Logged In for Updates!
So login in browser to whichever Site providing the services you need, if they have the Option, or use a Service that has just Call the Number No Apps and since login will be obviously linked with registered number which you choose to receive the updates OTPs Fare Charges etc via SMS and/or Email, then These notifications Shouldn't Have Problem Reaching the Phone, like I said if Select ONLY those options needed from Say NoScript etc to be allowed, without the rest of the junk trackers! Hope that helps! Remeber to watch the browser carefully though, because if you don't allow Notifications when the pop up comes the first time round, then you'll probably face some issues!
Something like this with maybe a map feature, and the ability to add music, would be amazing
@Judas Priest That's fine. I'm not too hung up on the labels like "smartphone" and "dumbphone" anyway.
One feature of a modern phone I like is a decent camera so I can take pics of my cat anytime.
What about Nokia 5710 XpressAudio?
Good luck on the dumb phone journey Chris, I get it, but I couldn't do it. I use mine for a few things I won't give up, like music streaming. Getting rid of all the social media apps, is what really help me detach from my smartphone.
Chris is excellently summarizing why I don't engage with social media - CZcams being a pseudo exception
@K.D.P. Ross It's interesting isn't it? Everyone with a smart phone has the ability to uninstall all the time sink / social apps that make it a minimalist phone, but instead of doing that, we want a new minimalist phone instead. No judgment, I'm in the same boat!
I really like to see when people manage to get back to classic mobile phones.
Can't do that myself because I depend on Signal personally, otherwise I'd probably get away with picking one up as well as long as it can function as LTE MODEM.
In 2017 I took one month break from social media, it was the best month for years. I slept a lot better and I was energized. Then I went back and everything become the same as before.
I think the Punkt is actually too far a step back, but I've been really seriously considering switching to a Light Phone II.
I really like the idea of an eink phone. I dont like the limits of the Light Phone II and i think it's pricey phone too.
@@erifneerg Hisense makes a couple of e-ink smart phones, but they're even more than the Light Phone II (but also more full functioning).
That's an interesting idea! It might be a little while before I do anything like that, considering my phone is one of the few compatible with my hearing aids, but I could try to take some of that idea and blow out nearly all the apps to do something similar. You're making it sound like it's worth at least $400 when you consider the quality of life aspect of it.
It isn't a piece of crap. It does what a phone is suppose to do, which is call telephone numbers where you actually speak to the other person. The modern phone is not a phone so much as a computer that you sometimes, rarely talk on. Imagine having to interact with those around you instead of being the zombie lurching about never looking up from TicTok. That would certainly be terrible, huh? Or actually remembering phone numbers? Or actually talking to someone instead of texting! WOW! Terrible.
And this is sarcasm by the way since many of the audience is unable to parse sarcasm because of all the above aforementioned reasons. You never talk to anyone any more...
I like the videos you make sir and want to say thanks for the time it takes to conceptualize, create, edit and UL them for us to view...
There's gotta be a Nokia that does what the Punk phone does, but 100% better.
I use a smart phone by my desktop for two-factor authentication. And it's the only way I can access my bank
love the rawness Chris, this is why I love your channel
I left my phone at home once by accident. It was so liberating to not have a phone in my pocket.
Waiting for the Nokia/Blu phone next. I had the 3310 a few years ago and it was nice to get away from constant buzzing, notifications, news, social media and EVERYTHING. I loved the freedom to just use it as a phone and nothing else. The one thing that I couldn't keep away from long term was Google Maps. Getting lost, stuck in traffic, and not reading horrible restaurant reviews (I know you are from DFW so you'll know how 🤢 I was eating at a Pancho's after not visiting in a few years) brought me back to smart phones. It's not bad now although takes a little longer to disable everything.
One of the Android 13 features I'm looking forward to is having to opt in for notifications! No more default annoyances with new app installs.
I remember when Dave Cullen of the Dave Cullen Show and the Computing Forever channel transitioned back to a dumb phone six or seven years ago. The boost in productivity and creativity is real. I am almost blind and I had to carry around glasses that were equipped with a jewelers loupe just to get a rough idea of what was on the screen. I intuitively memorized how many clicks up and down every available option and each menu wise. I had everyone’s phone number memorized because I couldn’t refer to them. I never once thought of complaining about it, but it was just focused on finding a way around any problem solving challenge. We are truly worse off for smart phones. I am profoundly grateful that someone else is covering this topic. My mother had her last dumb phone for almost 10 years and when they cut it off The 3G towers at the end of February 2022, she was forced into a pretend android phone which can’t do anything as well as the old dumb phone. after going to three AT&T stores and being told that it wasn’t possible to get anything off of her old phone, one employee at a fourth AT&T store knew how to cut down a Sim card and we were able to retain all her contacts and photos. The problem-solving abilities and knowledge of the tech support staff is also hit rock bottom and started to dig.
I get this. I made a conscious effort to not use social media over a decade ago. Still using an iPhone SE and half the time I have no idea where it is.
I love how Americans always have this convenient reductive image of "Europe", like all countries in Europe share exactly the same culture, language and food lol
+1
Welcome to the Anti-smartphone trend
Edit: “Android backend” nvm
They won't track me, and I'll be happy.
"The creative boost I got cannot be understated"
OVERstated.
The Zoolander reference reminds me of Futurama. LOL.
Amy: “Ack!”
Leela: “What’s wrong, Amy? Did you swallow your phone again?”
I think this pushes me over the edge of buying a pine phone. There I can do what I want but won't get the distractions fed to me, because nothing works out of the box :)
I've been really considering doing this for a while now. At the same time I REALLY want the nicest Samsung lol.
This might have convinced me though. I'm 200% sure my life will be better with this, and that means id almost be a fool not to switch.
Maybe I'll keep my OnePlus8t for navigation but honestly that might just be an excuse.
Nokia 3330 8310 or 1108 would be good for only calls sms long battery life. Heard Nokia was making a comeback of something close to the 8310/8250 but model number advertised somewhere was 8350 IiRC! Just hope it has the same features as 8310 radio without handsfree, very compact factor, and the basics working fine! Let's see what the future holds! Punkt if Android backend not so secure option for the Whistle Blower Activist Leader Kinds India World! There are basic models in Nokia and even Moto I think even with 4G in addition to 3G so that's that!😇⚖️🙏🏼
This interests me. I actually replaced my Nokia phone with an Alcatel because I needed 4G for phone calls. I object to the concept of a "smart phone". It's an ultra portable PC, so I think continuing to call it a "phone" doesn't make any sense to me. The Nokia phone I used to use worked great and the Samsung flip phones/clamshells I used before my Nokia worked well too. My Alcatel phone works, but it's bluetooth support isn't very good. I use bluetooth for making/receiving hands-free calls while driving. Thanks for the info about Nokia!
@@TheCocoaDaddy You're welcome! Yes, I do agree the old phones were great in their own respect for the basics, The Alcatel I had was IIRC The One Touch Easy DB with an Orange Backlit screen. There were other interesting models like the Samsung push out to reveal keypad more egg shaped compact ones and the one the size of a Cigarette Lighter, and Too Costly For Those Days Made Famous By James Bond Movies Nokia with the Slide Down I think that was the 8850 or 8250 around the time of 8310!
Also newer additions like the Panasonic with a jog dial and light weight which resembled the Sony Audio Set's Remote Control! Far from the Bricks of Nokia Communicator Motorola Ericsson etc way back when, but if you wanted a mini weapon if needed those heavy bricks could do the job in cracking someone's skull or teeth! Lol
In Regards to Mobile Communications Safety, it would not be a good idea to use Bluetooth in general. They have single ear handsfree Wired with mic and answer cut call button, some with even Volume controls as well, that is since you mentioned about calls on driving and it's always better to have one ear on the road when you do get on the phone while driving, so you can continue to speak in privacy without anyone listening in on LEBT hacks AirHacks or Chainlink Track&Trace in Realtime, etc, and you don't miss out on what you generally do but hopefully doing it the right and safe way!
It's called phones sticking to the patenting scheme of things as long as it uses a Sim or Carrier Aggregated Technologies like CDMA WCDMA GSM even Specific Carrier hard coded/locked Devices, basically anything with calling and SMS retained the Phone title and Computers/Laptops etc meant anything with a separate set of devices for computational tasks Motherboard SMPS CPU Cabinet Monitor Keyboard!
The bigger screen phones got the classification as "Phablet" as in it's a Phone cum Tablet retaining a Sim slot for GSM calling SMS functions, later WiFi Bluetooth added to the Mix with the memory card slot later on! And Because Phones were getting close to Computer level in Future iterations, Smartphone classification began, something like SmartTVs that tracked your every word and Move, but the term phone added in due to Sim Carrier Calling SMS features of Yore!
Hope that helps in some way!
Warm Regards,
Michael
And Oh Drive Safe My Brother!🙏🏼👍🏼
Hey Chris, The Sonim Xp3 flip phone is pretty good as a dumb phone. It's rugged and has
a fairly good battery life. You just have to re-Key to disable the Push To Talk.
They just released new sonim xp5+ with great battery life
Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thank you 💜💜💜
I'm in Canada and a "dumb" phone can still be found on the major carriers for about $79 (Canadian). There are unlocked phones aplenty too. The "Jethro" is neat for older people. The Alcatel Goflip 4 is an old clamshell style - with 4G for connectivity. Nokia 225 4G is another we can get. There are more available in Canada, but these are good starters.
Chris - you took the plunge and I've wanted to for a while. I guess I might have to just do it.
Right there with you, Chris... but I'm finding a couple of things keep me chained to something slightly more than a dumb phone because of the work I do. I also work in IT and would love to know if/how you manage...
1. 2FA - often requires an app/smartphone (SMS 2FA is becoming more and more rare).
2. Mobile hotspot - incredibly useful for remote support, troubleshooting and referencing. Maybe mobile wifi hotspot devices?
I've been looking at some of the KaiOS feature phones which is sort of a middle ground - maybe the worst of both worlds?! I'd still have a hotspot, maps, fewer distractions and better battery life.
It's about the trade off between being "always on/distracted", privacy and convenience.
Love where you head's at. Keep up the great work.
I've limited my iphone to limited with parental controls (friend has the pin) to limit my phone to use my 2fa apps etc. I also disable safari. it breaks some links but i'm okay with that,
Fantastic review!
lol, i love it when people gush about a "dumb" phone. I think they are great for people who don't have self control or know how to turn off notifcations on there smart phone. to each their own if you are happy with it that is great! thanks for the video.
Looks like a calculator. 😆
I use a Nokia 110 which is 4G and am happy with it.
110 or 1100? There's one model with no Camera memory card nothing, the kind used on Military Bases. Is that the model you're talking about, which they usually sell in pairs, one white one black. I can't recall the model number correctly, but I'm guessing it's close to what you stated. I loved the 1108 which was nothing but the 1100 with a white backlight screen instead of green. Brilliant battery life and worked like a champ!
Also miss my Sony Ericsson W810i K750i. Those Earphones of J Beat or Bass series was really good, but flimsy AF peeling wires! I went through a Long Line of Handmedowns bought phones etc back in the day, Nokia Alcatel Moto Ericsson Sony Ericsson even les bricks, can't get the batteries or I actually can revive some of them still in some box somewhere to work because I treated them well. There's even a HTC Evo 3D on the Backburner awaiting revival! But they've made sure I don't get Any Spares as they're most of My Evidence Phones Bundle! So tough luck so far with 24x7 365 surveillance and espionage on my a5$! ⚖️😇🙏🏼
@@MICKYLEAKSMGR-PRESIDENTCJWORLD 110 4G has a camera, but I wouldn't recommend using it. It's just there for the sake of being a feature.
@@PhilipMarcYT Thanks for the Reply. So 110 is a separate model. Yep the camera is redundant no doubt. The model I was talking about is Nokia HMD Model No. TA-1034! it's dual sim no Memory Card No Camera. US bases in the Gulf Region Damn Strict! In fact, they were so paranoid, they wanted even this crap phone locked up in safe, when the phone has literally no features on it other than call and SMS! If anyone looking for REAL dumbed down phone with dual sim then this could be considered an option. Take Care and God Bless!🙏🏼
Michael😇
I think you are so right about how much time and energy is sucked into the smartest. Doro is a brand that has its own os and has a range of clamshell phones. New they are £99 in UK, second-hand on eBay £20-70
I was looking at this for my mum but she likes her big smartphone even though it is too heavy to carry.
Nokia 3310👍
Love the video. I was using a Nokia dumb phone but it stopped working as it was 3G. I would love to see what you think about the Nokia 225 dumb phone.
I switched to a nokia dumb phone a couple months ago and i do NOT regret it. I feel so much more better when out the house, just feeling more in touch with people. Brought it from Argos shop for less than £20. I do too wish that they were bigger and i often end up accidentally pressing a directional key when i mean to press centre on the d-pad. My charge certainly lasts for a week. You would assume me to be more older but i'm a uni student (college for the american people)
Chris has gone angry old man. I don't mind it!
This video is just nostalgia for me. Although my heart belongs to Nokia 3310 forever. Thanks for the video, Chris.
Thanks! You have inspired me
“I've been so productive since moving to this piece of crap” OMG, I loled so hard 🤣
Hi Chris. I can't. Sat nav, music, network tools, banking, email and some other stuff just means I do get benefit from my phone. But I disabled most notifications so news, sm, yt etc etc I just don't get anymore. My first phone ever was a Nokia 101 and whilst I like the idea of going back to that I don't think I'd want to. But love the video....next up a Nokia df review??
Here's an alternative, Unihertz Jelly 2. 3" Android phone with 2000mAh battery. Turn off all notifications except sms, access Google Messages from a laptop, the Linux phone with keyboard, or in my case, a Planet Computer Gemeni. Lasts a day or two, fits in a pocket, and I can run my bank app on it. Then whenever I take a break I can get my Gemini from the backpack and do the other stuff, write job sms, or whatever. When I'm finished I turn off my Gemini and put it back in my backpack.
Punkt, Light Phone II, the new Nokias, they're all cool and so, but they all lack the one or two functions that I must have. (Bank app)
There is the Light phone II, it is similar in feature with the exception that you have a touch screen qwerty keyboard, and music player/podcasts.
I paid around that much back when Motorola Razr V8 was new, but I was paying for build quality and style too.
Would love it if they came out with a 4G version of the Razr V8, with Signal and touch screen.
This!
Hey Chris Please help me out for 3 days I am try to move my home folder to another Hdd in fedora bu for some reason I am unable to till now I have install fedora 5 times again and again?
This cell phone looks like a calculator!! lol
Nice video, Chris!
I do have a very modern smartphone, but it doesn't suck my life like that. I just don't have any socials and having a powerful computer in my pocket helps me to accomplish some work tasks anywhere I am.
Yes sometimes I binge CZcams and try to play a game or something, but I would do that to the computer just as much if I didn't have a phone so I missing the point especially when this device is so expensive. But I see where you are coming from
Something like a Nokia N82 which is a compromise with smartness (SIP [for SIM-free telephony],Maps,Browser,emal,...) but with a small screen and no touch will be a lot better. N82 was running Symbian S60v3 (keypad based) before the Symbian touch variants.
Recently got he Alcatel Smart Flip.Took a while to get used to, but has been worth it.
I would love to step back to something that has A-Z keys, and maybe some cool customization options
Yep, I found that out a couple of years ago. New phones are just a distraction.
Why not try putting a basic software image on an Android phone? That is my next move for my Samsung S9 that is in the draw.
I am using an old Samsung.
I'm Just a plane and simple carpenter not familiar with the new world, just kiddin, I am a carpenter and I leave my cell phone in my truck when I'm on the job.
where to buy it?
Light Phone II. Best option for me after a ton of research.
Punkt MP02 is the best dumbphone on the market. I use it everyday, it works flawless and has alot of shortcuts and I can call and send messages all over the world with Signal, next time please just get more on the specifics that this great phone has.
I'm sure it's been mentioned several times, I'd like to see your take on the Light Phone II or the Nokia 2660 Flip.
Seconded!
Chris, has the quality in broadcast television also decreased going from analogue to digital? I feel like digital TV looks horrible and pixelated. Here in Australia, free TV is still very popular. Congratulations on eliminating the borgifying device from your life, I've been wanting to do this myself and as soon as I finish this comment in jumping on eBay to find myself a dumb phone.
How about using your Kindle as an emergency SMS device (with an SMS app) and get rid of the phone altogether?
You can do SMS/calls using your computer at home, right?
Would be cool to have your input on the light phone!
The king of the dumb phone has to be the Sonim XP5s. Battery forever, brick design.. looks exactly like a Nextel.
Maybe you should try using a modern feature phone like one with KaiOS or a stripped version of android.
there's also the unihertz jelly, which is a full mid-range smartphone, but it's the size of a bean. you have a full phone but you don't want to use it because it's a pain to use.
dude, I've been considering going back to these phones for a while now. I waste too much time on nonsense that is unnecessary for me to work with cell phones
try a Cingular Flip from AT&T, it has Bluetooth so you can have a headset if you need it or connect to your car.
This is why I keep all my old phones lol. Had a habit of breaking a smart phone every 3 months (I'm active) and had to keep reverting to my old flip phone with a VGA camera. Only downside is the older bandwidth channels. I have card phones I paid 10.00 for that have Bluetooth lol, I have flip phones and super old smartphones. All of them have their merits compared to what everyone has settled on as the main phone style, but even with that being said a Moto G Power with a minimal launcher suits me. I need the modern cameras, and plan to Doordash. I can keep track of all my finances in seconds and get some GVMT info (I'm disabled). For some of us smartphones are an aid, but the overall design of smartphones leaves a lot to be desired, especially when all the bells and whistles and algorithms block it' ability to be a reliable phone lol. I have missed more calls because of notification hashups on Do Not Disturb, weird Wifi SMS fuckups and lord knows what else. Smart phones are kinda dumb when it comes to being a phone lol.
Dumb phone is the how. Removal of distractions is the why. A pocket computer, that can also make phone calls, can be made non-distracting just like all the other computers that you are surrounded by. I use my computers and... pocket computers interchangeably to do many of the same tasks. Even to make phone calls sometimes.
call quality got a LOT better ever since the introduction of VoLTE and HD calling. the punkt probably doesn't support it.
This would be great for my kids to have a cellphone. I've been holding off on getting them cellphone due to the accessories to bad stuff on the internet.
I like my Punkt MP02. I have been using it for a few years. When I travel, I take it instead of my smartphone; the GPS tracking can be fully disabled unlike on smartphones.
Real question here: why buying this 400$ phone when you can have a Nokia for 20$ that does the same? What argument made you chose the punkt over a cheap one?
@@neurobioboy the Punkt MP02 includes BlackBerry Secure for additional security against tampering with the device by malicious actors including the fscking government.
@@0x007A ok. Thanks for the answer.
I agree, phone call quality in the US is horrendous compared to what we have here in the EU, whenever i called anywhere in the US it sounded like every person on the line spoke through a tin can 🤣
$400 seem very expensive when you can get a Nokia 105 in the UK for £25 including sales tax, and not on a contract.
Without digital towers we wouldn't have SMS, data connections, media streaming, HD content, and so on. Connection to a digital tower is not "worse", it has to do with wavelength and how waves are transmitted (how waves have longer and shorter frequency). A device has to be closer to a digital tower to have the same voice (and I emphasize that is only voice) quality than using analog signal to an analog tower. And that is the ONLY advantage of the analog signal over the digital signal.
Does it have a fake solar panel next to the screen?
Pavlov's Dog was a highly engaged sheep dog before Pavlov got to him.
Does it cost money to sms and call to people
I have the Nokai 2780. I don't like Kai OS, but I love using it compared with my iPhone 11. I'm searching for a different dumbphone, if one I would like better exists, but I will not go back to a smart phone. I'm enjoying life a LOT more.
I recently bought a Pinephone since my iPhone 5s stops working in December. I was disappointed by it a little, because the OS still needs some work. What I want is not so much a dumb phone, but a smart phone that I can make as dumb as I want, i.e. uninstall all that shit I don't want or need.
I'm running a somin xp3 plus non camera. I love it and hate it too, upside is I am approaching my fourth year with a smartphone. Next phone I'm getting another dump phone candy bar style.
We in EU have N_okia dumb(ish) phones fraction of the price. Maybe try some of those, if available in US?
Try in Australia, the 2G network was turned off so most dumb phones will not work here (2G bandwidth frequencies were repurposed for 3g).
Thought you were holding a tiny calculator
Love mine. Only negative is battery life. Bigger battery = perfect phone 👌🏻
I'm using a Nokia 8210 and 7110 over the few days.
I hate having a gd phone. I use it as little as possible, now that im a business owner I have to have it with me. Id love to go back to an old style.