Stephen A. reacts to Horace Grant calling Michael Jordan a 'liar' and a 'snitch' | First Take
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2020
- Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Mike Greenberg discuss former Chicago Bulls PF Horace Grant calling out Michael Jordan following “The Last Dance” documentary.
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Stephen A “I talked to that brotha yesterday” Smith
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I literally smh when he said that lol
Lmao
Dont be talking to nobody 😂😂😂
Only perspective I cared about was Rodman's, I'm not gonna lie he was far more interesting and had a crazier life.
Pippens is dope too even though they end up making him look like a selfish douchebag sadly
If you thought his was interesting, check out his 30/30 documentary. It talks about even more aspects of his life
The worm was the man
@@Kfordca well he did sit out a few times.
And most of all he is brutally honest
Huh? If the players were told this is a documentary about the team, but it really is the MJ basketball story, I understand how they feel mislead. Also, they took some of their interviews and showed Jordan the footage and allowed him to respond without giving them a chance to do the same. If Stephen A told a player he's doing a 1-on-1 sit down and then 10 other players show up, I guess he wouldn't understand why the player is mad lol.
MJ was the Bulls bruh
@@banditonehundred no he wasn’t. Jordan lost for years with the bulls until they built a team around him.
@@shanebroussard6262 Do you really think that Horace Grant and the rest of the bulls would have a documentary without Jordan. Who buys a ticket to see Horace Grant play in Chicago .
@@donnelladams8362 you take Horace grant and the rest of “the bulls” out of Chicago and you have Jordan losing to the lakers, pistons and Celtics. No one person is good enough to win alone. Jordan didn’t win until they built a team around him.
@@shanebroussard6262 lost af
Fact is grant was such a big factor they had to bring in Rodman to get that edge that he gave them back. They barely mention that they lost their rebounding abilities and paint presence when Grant left
Rodman was the replacement for Grant.
Grant went to the finals with Orlando.
@@xXEliminatorXx99 Yes he was. Basically. No Grant = No First 3 peat.
They don't mention it because that would take some of their shine
@@xXEliminatorXx99 lmao true no grant they'd lose to Houston New York MOST IMPORTANTLY DETROIT
Keep in mind Horace Grant was the original big 3 in Chicago before Rodman…
Max: Today is Wednesday
Steven A: I'd have to disagree with you Max.
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Lol
“And here’s why”
You’re Wrong & Ima Tell You Why!!! Today Isn’t Wednesday Everywhere Max & That’s What You Don’t Get 😂😂😂😭😭😭
😂😂😂😂😂
😇😂😂😂
Stephen A is one of those yes men Charles Barkley was talking about.
Mixamaka lmao facts
Barkley was a Yes man for a long time.
charles barkley said many times he loves stephen a smith
Tony Scott or cuz he just didn’t care and wanted to hoop... just cuz your a celebrity doesn’t mean u have to be interested/get involved in politics...
Cody Boucher Yet an immigrant Celebrity from Austria decided to run for Governor in California AND WON...... If you’re passionate about something, who am I to tell him what to do, right?
The sad part is that these kids don't know how good Horace Grant was with Chicago. Horace Grant was no scrub! Might be the 2nd most underrated/unappreciated on the team after Scottie.
And kids think mo Williams is better Lmao
Horace Grant was a solid player and good defender and had two really good individual seasons one in 94 where he was an all-star is only appearance and 95 his first with Orlando. But I don't think he's underrated he's properly acknowledged.
@@kaiwei79Mo Williams was better
He hanged with coke heads
the interviewer asked MJ about the phrase "travelling cocaine circus" , MJ said it was the first time he heard that name and laughed, then he told the story about going into one of the players hotel room and seeing all the drugs and women. He didn't just talk about that out of the blue to snitch on people.. he also didn't mention any names.
Exactly. Also what kind of d bag sticks up for players cheating on their wives?
@@maxpower10k A good friend and a good teammate. That's who
THANK U SO U HEARD WHAT I HEARD!!!!!! Grant just hatin on Jordan
Wait, so MJ didnt mention any names but someone got hurt and squeaked?? So does that mean the one who squeaked is the one he's talking about.
Watch the docu-series!!! MJ never named anyone. All he said was some of the team was doing drugs and cheating on their wives. Not like the entire team!
Horace: Michael is a snitch!
SAS: You're wrong and here's why...
Lol
😂😂😂
Snitches name names, Jordan didn't. Horace Grant named everybody and Sam Smith protected his source. There's a reason Grant wasn't on the team after 1993. MJ was retired but Horace still jumped ship to join Shaq and Penny in ORL then joined Shaq and Kobe in LA in 2000. Grant was a sellout from jump. He wanted credit but didn't want the spotlight when MJ left, so he jumped to the team with 2 rising stars. Tailcoat riding as usual.
swiftslick you’re wrong about snitches telling names. All a snitch has to do is point people in the right direction. That’s all it takes.
@@swiftslick Grant left after 94, not 93....
From now on when Stephen a smiths says I talk to blank yesterday I want someone to yell “show me your recent call list” 😂😂😂
Thank you 😂😂😂
😂😂
Nbs😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
And then when it shows up that he really did talk to mike yesterday you’re gonna be looking really stupid
He didn’t bring it up they asked him about the traveling cocaine circus am I wrong?
Nope your not. They asked him and MJ laughed
The point Grant is making is that MJ had creative control over the final product, he could’ve easily left that part out but chose not to
Why should he leave it out he was all serious about the game and they didnt take it serious
He just confirmed the story
ripdajacker23 why leave it out when it’s asked and apart of your history? It’s part of what happened to make Jordan be Jordan and not fall into that type of life
If he is a liar then it doesn’t matter what he snitches about.
kinda does. At the end of the day he is M.J so people will more or less naturally take his word. So if he were in fact a liar and 'snitched' about something that wasn't true that could lead to some people's reputations taking an unnecessary hit.
🤔
@@jjaybourne4734 Umm... then it defies the concept of being a snitch. You're just a liar if you make things up about X person. The concept of being a snitch is to LITERALLY be honest and report on something
Your opinion sound worthless
Well done
*Jordan shoots someone randomly*
Stephen A: “You got to take into consideration what was going on. We’re talking about the 6 time champion, 5 time MVP. The best player we’ve ever seen. If he’s going to go out and shoot someone I believe there was a reason. And frankly that guy shouldn’t have been in front of MJ’s bullets!”
😂 too fkn funny.
lol
😭😭😭😭😭
😆 nice one
W
Loved Mike coming up, but anything said bad about him is denied and fought to the end by anyone who loves him
@Tcs 10s this isn't a lebron post tho....
Tcs 10s what does lebron have to do with anything? The comment is about MJ..
Mike and lebron are now CZcams Siamese twins hahaha.
This is about THE GOAT (MJ)
Not THE CHOKE (LBJ😄)
LMAO
People make up stuff in their head to make MJ look good like when Ivo crossed him people was saying "well MJ dunked on him the next play" or "he came back and scored 37 points" neither is true
You mean Horace wasn’t talking to that “reporter” and airing some dirty laundry?
Max kellermans' face has me in tears at the beginning of the segment lmaoo...he's a funny guy
Mischievous af
He’s like a South Park character that I just can’t with
Funny how? like he is there to amuse you? Funny how? Tell me how is he so funny?
That man is high. 🤣
Hes bursting inside with GLEE !! 🤣🤣🤣
Stephen A “I’ve known this brotha for many years” Smith
🤣🤣🤣🤣 so well said, that dude always has to start off with those disclaimers
LMAO
Stephen A isn't friends with these guys.
🤣🤣🤣
David R I’m pretty sure they all do know him on that level
Stephen “If Chris Paul had a few more inches, lawd have mercy, I’d be salivating” A Smith
Omg 💀
Did he really say that ???
Stephen " you are wrong and here is why" A Smith
Pause... Lol
Wait a minute. .....
Stephen A low-key threw Hodges under the bus for being too real😂
I would rather have the truth, than "MJ's truth" - you're always the hero in your own story.
Amen
Nothing but the truth
Lifetime will have another series coming from Chicago: " Surviving Jordan"
😂😂😂
That is funny Jarrod!
Jarrod Lewis 😂😂😂😂that deserves an extra 😂
Man that's how LeBron fanboys act about Michael like he's the Antichrist of basketball.
😂🤣😂
It's amazing Stephen A was successful in sharing nothing relevant in the entire video.
He trying to watch what he says because know jordan would cut him off ...
Oh good, because I fazed out after about 20secs of him talking, dude is boring af
He always is like this, no wonder he is a friend of Isaiah Thomas lol
Uhhh....every video he makes
@@townskt1 you’re assuming that Jordan knows that he’s even alive
Everytime I listen to SAS talk - it reminds me of why I don't like to listen to him talk 😬
Steven a smith was always swinging on Jordan’s jock strap anyway . Nothings Changed.
Anyone else feel like Stephen A spits a lot when he talks? Sorry, covid has me noticing these things..
I mean, he do be sprayin through the screen sometimes. Might put on my mask 😷 next interview I watch of him.
LOL!!
The Steven A. Is the black Elmer Fudd
Dave Richmond
LOL 😆 🤣😂
I had to clean the back of my screen after watching this vid 😆😆😅
He's right...if this was a Horace Grant docu series...I wouldn't watch.
Yup
yup, horace mad he didn't get to use the ipad
It should have been a Bulls Documentary, not a Bulls Documentary from MJs POV
AT Tatara nah. It was good for what it was. Tbh if you’re not from Chicago or a passionate basketball fan you just wouldn’t care unless it was centered around MJ. I know I certainly didn’t. Had this been a bulls documentary vs an MJ documentary so so SOOOOOO many fewer people would’ve watched. I certainly wouldn’t have. MJ is where the money is lol it’s just as simple as that
Exactly lol nobody wants half an episode dedicated to Bill Cartwright 😂
Stephen A is one of those rare men who can win an argument with his wife. 👏
BECAUSE HE RUNS HIS MOUTH AND HAS TO HAVE THE LAST WORD LIKE A WOMAN. SMH
😂😂😂😂😂.. I didn't think that feat was possible. My pops & all the OGs I grew up under always told me don't argue with a female. U will never win
THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS HIS HUSBAND!
He's not married.
The1Mustache3 what you mean? His my pops
Stephen A : “ Mike and I fed each other chalklot covered raspberry’s just last night....”
"Chalklot"
Ryan “Gronk” Dinero
Lmfaoooo
Who is out here eating raspberries covered in chalk?! Lol
Unless you meant “Chocolate”
Andy Salcedo The Sad Thing Is..I Think They Did Mean “Chocolate”😪🤦🏾♂️.
Shannon Sharpe on the phone:
“Ho, this Ho Grant”? 😂
Lmao
Haha
Stephen A."I always tell the Truth...Even when I lie".
He probably got it from Scarface
😀
*Stephen A. In the dressing room before they go live every week day*
"YOU NEED PEOPLE LIKE ME"
Say good night to the bad guy
🤣
horace my brother it’s nothing new finding out nba players having fun partying.. NO ONE GIVES AF
i do!!@
Hassan Sikes no you don’t
J B, you don’t think Jordan’s teammates at the time care?
How would u explain to ur kids and grandkids that the majority of people now know you were a huge coke head when playing in the NBA???
This sounds like defending Jordan for being a snitch. Whether people care or not, Jordan's a snitch.
It's still a known fact that Horace was the main character giving locker info out so how can he call anyone a snitch.🤔🤫
even jordan teammates hating on him... that's crazy.
Not a fact cos Jordan couldn't bully Horace so he made him look bad
A known fact? From who? The documenatry that was produced from MJ’s people?
Well after MJ talked. . He made the man mad..
U was in the locker room?stfu
I would pay good money to watch a documentary about Michael Jordan's teammates giving their opinion about him as a person and teammate back then.
if any of them are salty they should return their rings and bonuses to Jordan himself .
@@jaerockchalk3216 said after being confused about the concept of team sports.
@@jaerockchalk3216 You say that like Jordan won anything without scottie and Phil.. if they returning theirs, he needs to return his. This a team sport and not even the goat himself could do it without them.
@@jaerockchalk3216 MJ said that he won his title thanks to Scottie, he also said that when people talk about Michael Jordan, they also should talk about Scottie Pippen
They already did. He was rude, a-hole and steps out of line often but they appreciated the success it led to.
This always happens when a documentary or movie comes out. Then again it's always two sides to every story
Not true. Not every Documentary is Produced by the the Protaganist of said Documentary who has veto power to nix anything they don't want in said film
Very true..its always gonna be one or 2 ppl that say they got portrayed wrong.. Grant probably was one of them cowboys
What would be the other side to the story though? Mike said Horace Grant was behind the book and whores denied it.Wasn’t too much more details about it
3 sides to a story the 2 parties and the truth
3
Like isaiah told SAS i don't worship Jordan like you do.
Jared Taylor Stop crying
Dywane Carter lebron won 3 chips and never won a defensive player of the year?
Where he said that i need to wacht it
@Jared Taylor he has 3 rings. 🙄
Jared Taylor Bro stop crying. Stop acting tough your name is Jared ffs.
“I spoke to Michael Jordan yesterday”
-Stephen A Smith
Lololol he thinks he's something special
Stephen A worships MJ, like a little boy looking up to his idol.
Yes he does it’s always two sides two a story
Over the last couple of years people have deified MJ and turned him into a God. MJ was a great basketball player but he had his share of flaws just like any other person
@78mfleet carefull man if u say anything beside praise about mj u will be called a soft millennial or a bronsexual(even if u are not)
The documentary literally shows his flaws
X x Facts💯
78mfleet Nah whats happing to MJ is a different level. there were plenty of failures MJ had over his career that people have refused to acknowledge.
@Dywane Carter what are u talkin about man u high?
Haven’t even watched the vid yet and I already know SAS is gonna slobber all over jordan
he will bend over for MJ and say "u are right, and here is why..."
LOL Swab the knob!!
One of the biggest yes men in sports history
shameless dude
Watch it
The guy interviewing Mike brought it up, not Jordan himself.
Still makes him a snitch
He said Horace name lol he’s a snitch
A snitch is a snitch.
@@andrewa8161 Horace said he's not a snitch...then named off 8 other people it might've been 😂
Doesn't mean that he had to speak on it
That ain’t snitching..... it’s public knowledge that a lot of Basketball players were snorting coke in the 70’s & early 80’s.
The Bulls had serval players on the team that snorted coke before MJ got there.
Shiiiiiiiid I’m from the Chi & I knew that before MJ got there.
It’s still snitching.
You’re just in denial cause of your love for jordan. But that stuff. Stays in the locker room.
@@josecarranza7555 How is that snitching if he talks about it 30+ years later? Plus he didn't even mention anyone's name. Gtfo!
it became an argument because MJ said it, if not we would have this video
DjJokerr Doesn’t matter when it happened, it’s code. michael jordan snitched.
next it’s gonna be “stephen A talking about horace grant talking about stephen A talking about horace grant talking about mj being a a liar and snitch”
being a liar and a snitch and is Lebron a better snitch?"
Stephen A to MJ yesterday
*via text
SAS: Hey MJ
MJ: Sup
SAS: I love you
MJ: .....
Stephen A on First Take today: “Of course I talked to MJ yesterday”
I mean by your example he literally did tho sooo....
😂😂😂
😂😂😂so true
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Lmao
What? Wasn’t the whole point of that “snitch” thing in the documentary was to show that they used Horace Grant as a scapegoat, not that he actually snitched?
Grant was exactly what MJ always said he was when he left the Bulls.
Yes a champion
DON'T forget he won two more title with Lakers so yeah he always had a mentality of champion. But the worst part is that every important piece of Chicago bulls had issues and Jordan was only who always knew what to do, yeah yeah
@@reduneyconceicao3420Horace contributed next to nothing to that Lakers team. He was irrelevant.
Just imagine if lebrons teammates called him a liar and a snitch Stephen A would be all over him 🤦♂️
Yah lol... imagine skiuup
That’s a slightly different circumstance. Michael Jordan was talking about things 30 years ago that can’t easily be found on the Internet. LeBron James has grown up in the Internet Age. So IF James ever lies or snitches, it is much easier to find out. A 3 minute Google search can undermine a liar and a snitch.
What everybody would be all over him
No he wouldn't. He loves Lebron too...no harm in knowing whose who tho 😂🤣😂🤷🏾♂️
@@rockajabroni5975 none of his teammates have ever said that lol. all of lebron's former teammates praise him and even Kyrie apologized to him and admitted that he was wrong. stop it
Thanks for letting us know who he was talking about, Horace. Even though MJ didn't name anybody.
I mean honestly we know who was on that team his rookie year. We all knew who he was talking about.
575forza he didn’t have to name names . It was obvious who he was talking about . Come on now
Except Horace was not on the team yet. MJ's rookie year was on '84 and Horace arrived to Chicago until '87.
@@jzayas5698 I think you just educated some folks
Ahmah’d Gamble u didn’t know until now with that statement
I dont agree with Stephen, yes, Jordan's perspective is interesting, but that does not automatically mean that people would not be interested in a more balanced perceptive. Why wouldnt they? Everybody knows it is a team effort. And iIf Im talking to for myself, I was very curious to hear the perspective of the other team members.
Steve a smith just made an amazing strawman arguement. He never said anything about it being a jordan doc the issue is that it's a BULLS doc not just Jordan. Yet jordan got to control the narrative on OTHER players
The Traveling Cocaine Circus wasn't brought up by Jordan. Plus it was discussed because it established the lack of a winning culture in Chicago. And how Jordan quickly became a leader early in his rookie year, despite the culture! 💯
They werent trying to hear the truth. MJ came to that team and showed grown men how to be Winners
Most NBA players in the 80s were on coke.
Lt. wreck lmao thinking about it everyone was on coke then
They don’t want the truth
@@XanderLupus13 or crack. U ain't lyin. Everything went downhill in America since then.
Stephen A Smith the greatest highest paid Yes Man 👌
You spelled Shannon Sharpe wrong
Keandre Green 😆😂
@@keandregreen5628 nah Shannon actually says when Bron is wrong he's the complete opposite of Stephen A, if you think Shannon Sharp is a Yes man then you probably don't know him
Jason Whitlock
As if your opinion matters.. You believe that Bill Gates is running the Plandemic lol!
Mj expected this, that being the only reasoning of taking Stephen A's call.
Lmfao
Stephen "I've known him for years. That's my brother!" A Smith
😭😂😂😂😂😂
@@jaytee8096 lol 😅😅😅
Horace Grant is in the right position 😂😂😂😂 like how can Mj snitch about the weed and cocaine going on in the locker room, but get mad about how someone going to the media talking about Jordan rules?? And even better, Jordan blames grant like what? This dude Stephen A needs to stop simping to Jordan.
Alec Andrea Grant named names Jordan was just giving vague info that was already known anyway
I think the difference is MJ is talking about the coke and whatever on their team years after that thing happened and he didn’t talk about it at that time. MJ was angry coz he suspected Horace was talking to those book writers while the situation was all fresh. I feel like talking about the cocaine train 30+ years after is different from talking about a current team situation
Christian Soldier thank you and Jordan never named any names when he mentioned that he clearly said he had no leadership when he was a rookie that was his whole purpose of bringing that up Horace grant just wants attention
You have a point but jordan didnt mention any names and at that point they were not focused on anything important and he said that comment now after how many years and I do believe grant, he said on the docu that it was not him leaking the information, and everyone not just Jordan assumed that it was grant because of the reporter that he knew.
Difference is that at the time the the Jordan rules were relevant because he was still playing. All the players mj snitched on now are retired. Their careers are over. The Jordan rules put his reputation on the line when it mattered most (during career). Jordan snitching now has no affect on these players other than embarrassing them.
Horace was playing for Orlando during the “Last Dance”. Stop complaining my dude. You won 3 rings because of MJ.
No he didn’t! He won 4 rings and they weren’t all because of “MJ”
you scooper Without Pippen ? Is that supposed to be a cool remark ? He only played 3 seasons without Pippen.... nobody hits their prime in their first 2 years .
you scooper We understand that Pippen was an important part but was replaceable unlike Jordan . Saying “without Pippen” , is implying that Jordan failed without Pippen when it reality , it only accounts for his first 3 years in the league .
you scooper That is exactly what I just said and now you are repeating it ? What do you define by success in a players first 3 years l? Jordan played less than 10 games his second year . His 3rd full season he won MVP , DPOY, and the scoring title while being the only guard to still ever do that. It was clear who Jordan was at this point . Pippen was a rookie that year averaging 7.9 points and almost 4 rebounds .
Show me another player in the past 30 years that has put up comparable stats within their first 3 years . Once again , Jordan won DPOY his third full season and had identical defensive stats his second full season . This is while he was leading the league in scoring for both of those years . Your argument is moot .
you scooper You are the one that limited it to Jordan’s first 3 years since you referenced “without Pippen “ . Anyway , Jordan’s second full season in the league was better than any year Scottie had in his whole career . Name one player in recent history that has had more success in their first 3 years than Jordan with a similar talented team .
Grant has that game winning block in one of the finals games. So many i can’t remember.
i loved to see Horace Grant play with the Bulls as a Kid,
he was an important part of that team, but he will never get MJ type Credit.
And???? Maybe he's saying the truth... You can't deny what he's saying just because you think he's less important than MJ......
@@mago97615 he is telling his version of the Truth because he felt like he was not appreciated and his contribution was given the same level of respect as MJ, we all know MJ was a bit of an Ahole, so what will Grant have to gain at this point? except try and tarnish MJs reputation.
Didn't Horace Grant originally snitch to Sam Smith so he could write The Jordan Rules 😅😂😂😂
Well no one really knows the truth.
@@Ibaaz33 Sam Smith knows, and I doubt it'd be impossible for MJ to get the truth from Sam himself.
Quite as kept, I think Phil Jackson might have been snitching and never told anyone.
Sam smith said it was Phil Jackson and Jackson confirmed it
Sam smith lied fool
It kills me when a man tells you how he feels it takes someone else to tell you how he feels.
u clicked, just brush off that chip sitting on ur shoulder! or is it glued
Some stories are best left untold...
It’s about Michael Jordan’s perspective and you’re going to call him a liar about how he thought? That’s got to be the funniest thing ever the most jealous statement ever
Michael Jordan Murders all his teammates *** SAS: That's because he had such a winning mentality.. He done the right thing
Killer mentality*
You mean a selfish mentality
Murder?? They all alive and have rings after they gone with the bulls they have a better job bec of their championship led by MJ Sucka
Kobe had that same selfish mentality that’s why he an shaq had problems
Rosalina Pua im pretty sure you have no friends. Your sense of humor is terrible
If everybody has a problem in a particular matter.... 🤔🤔🤔Maybe we need to look a lil closer into that matter
Who is everybody? I can count just as many who dont have a problem
@@infirmarypsycho1616 I think he is referring to the players. As fans, ofc it's great entertainment. Scottie Pippen has a problem, HG does. Also some players on other teams... So sure you can count, but relevancy will be an issue then
@@rupertpupkin1806 it's been other players that have loved it.
@So Cool1 let me guess LeBron is your favorite player 😂🤣
Like 9/11?
Stephen A makes a better argument when he is calm.
If he's a liar, then how can he be a snitch? Horace sounds like a rambling, nervous convict. He always been jealous. He making it obvious now.
Totally agree. The fact that he is still soo emotional after all these years shows that he's guilty.
Jealous of what?
@@krizzi3king95 being the 3rd wheel and not celebrated like mj and pipp
d b dude has 4 rings why would he be jealous
Stfu bro Jordan was a dirty man gambling issues , drug problems that man dirty
Stephen A got everyone number on speed dial lmao
The funny part is NOBODY ever disputed his “I talked to him yesterday” I’m sure he actually does have a lot of “off the record” type conversations with the sport world elite!!
his brotha, got mad love for him, go way back, spoke last night, real special dude
Somebody hack his iCloud
@@RedFolarin i said that too people swear he's lying but no one has proven it !! I think alot of sports reporters have ' off the record ' conversations with athletes he just lets it be known
Lool he does have a point. But double standards I guess
You can't treat a superstar player like a roll player or a regular player.
Ngl it was already known that players were doing cocaine back then and that he played with some addicts... he was more of stating a fact then “snitching”
That's hating man. Horace Grant trippin. That's hating...🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@charlesstarling3024 he didn't name any specific player either, not snitching in my book. All players were on coke back then too.
MJ just doesn’t want his teammates doing drugs like that. Sure... he’ll choose “snitching” if that’s what we wanna call it, if it means winning.
I would argue that people would love to see documentaries on other teams and from other players. It would also go far towards explaining the game to the layman/woman and making enriching the game/viewer base/fan base instead of building up false heroes or one player all day everyday (i.e. LeBron/Durant, etc.)
There are a lot of old documentaries about the Bulls two threepeats, a couple that used get played a lot on repeat when I was younger. They didn't cover MJ much and he didn't talk much, because after MJ's father died, he kept the press at a distance, and since then hasn't been very accessible to the press. The reason why the Last Dance is so good, is because you get so much access to MJ. Most of the other guys, outside of say Phil are fairly easy to access.
So Horace says Jordan is a snitch, but then turns around and says the doc is BS? Which is it?
People like you hurt my brain
I think he feels it was biased and some of his comments were cut. They gave MJ the last say on every topic.
To answer Horace: Jordan said that to set up the narrative of how crappy and lax the Bulls organization was when he got there and how he changed that culture
Exactly plus how is it snitching? No one cares that they did Coke... It was obvious thats what the players were doing. Lol
Sr. Chiqi Tibum EXACTLY! The Bulls weren't about winning until MJ got there and changed the culture. And frankly, they haven't been about winning even remotely since MJ left except for when Derrick Rose was at his pre-injury best and they still have no chips since MJ left.
And MJ Never mentioned no names, plus Grant had an opportunity to say something when they interviewed him in the Documentary.
when Jordan arrived at OHare airport after being drafted, there was nobody on the Bulls to greet him there. they forgot
It’s still snitching at the end of the day.
That stuff stays in the locker room.
Shannon sharpe set this man off. Shannon’s reaction to that plane story was “dude do you have no self respect”?.
It was Shannon that set Horace off.
I believe this to be true lmao
Horace needs to put out HIS docu-series.
Mj didn't "just bring it up" after 30 years. He was asked about it and told a story
Right. He was storytelling. Big difference........
@@2314KenKen after being asked he never brought it up on his own and it was no secret back then to anybody in the league
He had full control over what went out on that doc. He could’ve said cut that and nobody would’ve seen it. That’s why there was nothing questioning anything from gambling or his fathers murder in the story
Literally snitching
Tekashi 69 was asked too. So hes not a snitch?
Imagine said you talk to MJ yesterday come on man😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Why is that funny? They got KD on the show, despite all of that drama, the had KDs mom on the show as well.
Of course Stephen A is gonna have contacts and be able to speak to Jordan, Just like how the guys off All The Smoke are gonna be able to call LeBron in the future.
It's no different.
I don't believe that Jordan would ever ever go on First Take though 😂.
I’m hung over from last night and the moment this lady started speaking I almost threw my phone at the wall!
I thought that was Toni Kukoc for second! Lol
David Ruffin: Ain't nobody coming to see you Horace
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Horace "Otis" grant
@@landostorm4779 wth😯..😅😂😂😂😂
This is gold lol 😆
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@@landostorm4779 - Otis still standing though.
Didn't even watch it yet, and already know Stephen A's gonna defend MJ! Smh...
ESPN is a network of Jordan fanboys and they don't try to hide it. Sports journalism is dead
DEFENSE FILMS salty Le3-6 fan who’s mad about ESPN not supporting Lebron for once. ESPN are Le3-6 dickriders
@Having Good Ones LMAO!!
Stephen A is on the money. Obviously the Last Dance is pure gold because it centres around the GOAT MJ giving his perspective on his career and key moments with the bulls.
Episode 3 and 4 were the best..because of more drama,and wanted to hear more about rodzilla and pippen.
Horace is forgetting the “cocaine circus” headline. It was public knowledge
Bck then! These new kids & people that’s watching didn’t know none of this! It wouldn’t have been a surprise if everyone knew! & he was tlking bout his team & teammates! U never suppose to put them under the bus. Stephan A just had a problem with perk for doing the same with KD not to long ago! Gotta pick a side & stick to it! But because it’s MJ he’s going the opposite route! That it standing on principles & morals!
Young Loko713 facts
@@youngloko7137 he had a problem with perk putting down kd to big up Westbrook
Dubois Watkins so MJ was putting dwn his teammates to make hisself have a better image!
So why bring it up again, it's old news, idk why we're even talking about all this jordan nonsense , who cares , he's a snitch who's so insecure he had to come out with this idiotic documentary like who really cares, he had his moment now move on and stay retired and sthu, stop taking away the attention from the NBA players today, he's that threatened by lebron or Kobe? Really pathetic, and that's the goat? A pathetic insecure bully
Grant sounds like a Jealous Ex teammate that’s pissed cause the focus is on the Goat
Stephen A: I give an artificial beef 🥩 and i want to be new beef 🥩 among the old ones
Horace Grant backed Scottie a lot more than MJ. I liked that about him
Everyone else:
Stephen A: *casually*.... I just spoke to Michael Jordan last night
Smith is the biggest joke.. Mj must have told him go on air and make me look good.. Smith responds "yes sir yes sir" 🤦🏾♂️
Grant is a hater, you act like jordan snitched when in reality he was discussing the environment he came into league with
Exactly
Facts he didn't give names and jerseys numbers that be Snitching
This is what it's coming to talking about he said she said every freaking day.
Real talk, Stephen.
Molly said “AKIRACCY”
she has Irish accent, so?
@@chansonkun7989 She has an ignorant accent
They just have her on air to welcome the viewers, ask the topic question, and to go into commercial break. They cut her out the frame once the debate starts because shes useless without her script.
@@chansonkun7989 you must have never ever heard irish accent 🤣
@@chansonkun7989 Irish LMFAO. Wait Molly Irish, she looks like a Latina unless she mixed.
SAS got them tap shoes on today
When does he take em off??
I thought he was going to start Jumpin' Jim Crow.
Lol yooooo chilllll
How???
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What's the music at the start
Stephen A. "I talked to ×insert big star here× yesterday" Smith. BS. Lol!
Ugh that feeling when you hear Molly's voice ...
Jenny on undisputed FS1 has a better moderator knowing when to talk IQ
Gj Gjs Molly is part of the show, and she obviously has something to say. Not just a pretty face. I wish she would comment more often.
I know what you mean, I almost nut every time.
Eww
Seriously !!!
Horace, MJ telling people about drugs and drinking, he was letting people know he change the culture of the team.
Thank you... Horace is just hating man it sucks because Horace was just a Role Player
If I am Jordan, I come back from a broken leg and put up 49 and 63 and still can't win a game against Boston , I might be a bit pissed about half my team being a bunch of coke heads. I bet in MJ's mind if the vets were doing what they should have been doing, he feels he should have some rings in the 80's too. He sure never got any young players that could put up 30 much less 60 in a game.
It also shows that he was able to avoid that drug and alcohol culture to achieve greatness.
Exactly, those players were robbing the city of Chicago. Plus it was already well documented that they were mostly coke heads on that team when MJ got there, there was no secret being revealed.
There is a difference between saying "My teammates liked prostitutes, coke and weed" and saying "there was a culture where people celebrated before achieving". or "people liked enjoying themselves more than making an effort to win championchips." You can say this without going into the specifics.
Jordan should be thankful he had great talent around him in those years and a great coach in Phil Jackson he could not done it all by himself show some gratitude Jordan it's 5 on 5 not one against 5
No phil jackson should be lucky that he always had great players and established teams built before he took over the head coaching job. Mj and the bulls were in the eastern conference finals before Phil became the head coach. Mj was a multiple time scoring champion, defensive player of the year and multiple time league MVP BEFORE Phil was the head coach. These are all known facts. Phil never built anything, all of his teams were already built before he got there. I respect Pat Riley , Greg Popavich more than Phil because they drafted their players and developed their players into champions. Kobe and Shaq were already made when Phil got there. So your statement is invalid and it is Phil who should be lucky that he was gifted with two of the greatest scoring guards ever..
@@donnelladams8362 your text has no commas or stops, so your argument is invalid ;)
Well grammar police since what I said was true, added to the fact that I got 4 likes your response is invalid.
@@donnelladams8362 nice try though
@@hectorthomsen It's not trying when the statement is true
Stephen "let me be perfectly clear" A. Smith
Jordan would’ve been wild if he said sumn like Orlando Woolridge was doing lines in the locker room, he just expressing what everybody else already knows
Exactly and if it was going on back then just imagine now
Lol plus it was something the dude interviewing him already knew about, hence calling them a traveling cocaine crew
Nah idk bruh he literally said the entire team and mentioned the man at the door having a dark voice.....he definitely was dry snitching lol. Why you he give the hotel story instead of just hitting them with a no comment.
@@keithwilliams3714 10 hrs of no comment and the same old material would be boring. Besides, he said "practically the whole team", which means "almost the whole team". Was an innocent, funny story.
It’s still snitching.
Can’t trust michael jordan.
I wonder which Cape SAS will wear. He def goin to be on Jordan’s side even when he’s wrong. It annoys me.
Facts
All this doc has shown is how the media will dickride Jordan no matter what. They’re just exposing themselves day by day. Its comical
Agreed...
@@eldio2124 that's how it was back then as well. it was even worse because no one wanted to end their career
Funny how SAS was off the day MJ recording of him saying don't put Isaiah on the dream team?
If Steven was in scottie pippen shoes or in Grant's shoes he would not have nothing to say he needed scottie more than people really know