How Horace Grant & The Magic Motivated Michael Jordan to Create the Greatest Team Ever

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  • Brian Shaw shares his experience of being on the last team to beat Michael Jordan in the playoffs.
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  • @MightyInfinity
    @MightyInfinity Před 2 měsíci +297

    Jordan took all that shit personal lol. He even use the guys from the space jam movie as practice for the league. Savage lol

    • @Noname-fr8rz
      @Noname-fr8rz Před 2 měsíci +12

      They would’ve lost again without Rodman

    • @tarrellsmith3260
      @tarrellsmith3260 Před 2 měsíci +39

      @@Noname-fr8rz🧢 Rodman literally did nothing vs Shaq. Shaq averaged damn near 30ppg and almost shot 70% vs Chicago the yr Rodman joined. The yr prior without Rodman, Chicago held Shaq to under 25ppg and he shot like 45% vs them. A full season Jordan was the difference not Rodman

    • @andrehoward558
      @andrehoward558 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@tarrellsmith3260thank you for understanding the game

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 2 měsíci +13

      ​@@andrehoward558yea way too many current nba fans are not really fans. They just repeat things from Twitter.

    • @MarvelousJP
      @MarvelousJP Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@MikeBNumba6way too many current nba fans are 2000 born babies who didn’t watch or can’t even remember the nba pre 2015

  • @PaulVisionLee
    @PaulVisionLee Před 2 měsíci +143

    I’ll never forget the NBA on NBC promos for the bulls would show a pic of their big three consecutively with audio saying SUPERMAN - BATMAN - & RODMAN 😂

    • @bigant608
      @bigant608 Před 2 měsíci +6

      I used to hum that theme, lolololol

    • @je5406
      @je5406 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Thats heavy

    • @themanhw
      @themanhw Před 2 měsíci

      lol joker?

    • @Sadlerfly1
      @Sadlerfly1 Před 2 měsíci

      Facts

    • @warraw6393
      @warraw6393 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I loved the promo alot ..and up to now I still hear it in my head😂😅

  • @grahamlynn43
    @grahamlynn43 Před 2 měsíci +46

    It's probably the best guest i've seen on a basketball podcast ever. Great stories, dude played with Bird, Shaq, Kobe and played vs Jordan and Dream in the Finals. Unreal

  • @Heretowatchstuff
    @Heretowatchstuff Před 2 měsíci +167

    I remember the off season when the Bulls got Rodman. No one wanted him. Everyone was afraid he would destroy any team he went to. I was a little nervous he would do it to the Bulls. You knew he was gonna bring drama and problems with him. He ended up being an absolute perfect fit for that team. Could very easily have gone south really quickly.

    • @Four6Three1Two
      @Four6Three1Two Před 2 měsíci +28

      All facts Bro. I said no way was this gonna work. After that first game, everybody in Chicago forgot about that shove to Scottie. Lol

    • @tobyncummins
      @tobyncummins Před 2 měsíci +13

      Strangely, when I saw Dennis at his first Bulls press conference, I had a feeling something special was about to happen.

    • @shlidgn90
      @shlidgn90 Před 2 měsíci +25

      I knew it was over for the league when Rodman went to the Bulls. He was killing it over in San Antonio. He was right about Pop and Robinson at that time. Jordan is every bit of a dog as Rodman.

    • @maxmx767
      @maxmx767 Před 2 měsíci +26

      This is fact. People cry about the Bulls having Rodman but nobody wanted to deal with him.
      Ask Popovich

    • @maxmx767
      @maxmx767 Před 2 měsíci +18

      @@shlidgn90Rodman said Robinson didn’t have the heart to lead a team to a championship.
      He was right

  • @gibgiuseppe
    @gibgiuseppe Před 2 měsíci +101

    B Shaw is a pleasure to listen to. Very calm and clear, no megalomania or overstatements

    • @n_a8917
      @n_a8917 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Agreed 100%

    • @user-er3ri6sc3j
      @user-er3ri6sc3j Před 2 měsíci

      Hasn't he head coach yet?

    • @toolondaboards
      @toolondaboards Před 2 měsíci

      @@user-er3ri6sc3jyes. He was with the Nuggets for a few years.

    • @DirtySouth-om7zj
      @DirtySouth-om7zj Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@user-er3ri6sc3jnot yet pretty disrespectful dudes been an assistant for ages but guys like Darvin Ham Adrian Griffin get jobs

    • @user-er3ri6sc3j
      @user-er3ri6sc3j Před 2 měsíci

      @@DirtySouth-om7zj All those assistants jobs he has had with Phil Jackson but head coach in the NBA is just a puppet figure.

  • @cristianlucas192
    @cristianlucas192 Před 2 měsíci +18

    PG - EXCELLENT job letting your guests speak without interrupting.

  • @t99155
    @t99155 Před 2 měsíci +101

    The GOAT thing about MJ was the next year he scored 45 purposely on that close out game 😂 💯🔥💪 that Magic team was 🔥 tho and Horace made a difference too.

    • @Vandalio_Saez
      @Vandalio_Saez Před 2 měsíci +4

      I forget about that 😅😅😅😅

    • @andrewwebster7185
      @andrewwebster7185 Před 2 měsíci +7

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      That game is one of his most underrated playoff games

    • @AlldatJazz-rw9wy
      @AlldatJazz-rw9wy Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah but trust and believe, Mike was elated they got swept by Houston.

    • @beevee2312
      @beevee2312 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He may have. He missed two free throws in the closing seconds. lol

    • @Velly2g
      @Velly2g Před 2 měsíci +3

      😂 GTFOH .. I gotta look this shit up.. If this is true, it further supports his GOAT status

  • @nonamejustbecause5130
    @nonamejustbecause5130 Před 2 měsíci +45

    After a season ending loss players take some time off before getting ready for the next season .. mj told his trainer, "ill see you tomorrow" .. thats 🐐

    • @CreativeBigL
      @CreativeBigL Před 2 měsíci +3

      noname
      And told the casino manager I'll see you in an hour.😄

    • @nonamejustbecause5130
      @nonamejustbecause5130 Před 2 měsíci

      @@CreativeBigL 😂 facts

    • @beevee2312
      @beevee2312 Před 2 měsíci

      @@CreativeBigL MJ went home that night!!

    • @ciarrajohnson3849
      @ciarrajohnson3849 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah, that’s how you know he was pissed. He came back someone else, like “Check, niggas”😂😂😂😂😂

  • @leechrec
    @leechrec Před 2 měsíci +242

    MJ didn't make excuses for fuckin up. He just worked, took what he had, and persevered towards the goal.

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 Před 2 měsíci +14

      -- Just like Lebron. Leave a worn down DWade and join forces with Kyrie plus KLove to form a younger, more perseverance crew

    • @JiGGaVeLii007
      @JiGGaVeLii007 Před 2 měsíci

      If Mj was in bron situation he would be ringless or with 1 ring ( Mavs series )@@jlui21

    • @mikebuckets
      @mikebuckets Před 2 měsíci +13

      ​@@jlui21lol sarcasm

    • @80teg
      @80teg Před 2 měsíci +6

      '92 Bulls vs. '09 Cavs 2nd to 5th best guys:
      - Pippen --- Mo Williams
      - Horace Grant -- Antwan Jameison (33 yr old, not the kinda decent 26 yr old twan)
      - Paxson -- Varejao
      - Cartwright -- Anthony Parker
      The Cavs lost 1 guy (Lebron) and went from 61 wins, to 20
      The Bulls lost MJ, and added a rookie Kukoc, and lost like 3-4 more games
      Im not saying Im sure Lebron is better; Im saying anyone who still doesnt think its close in either direction made up their mind 15 years ago

    • @Se0420_
      @Se0420_ Před 2 měsíci +11

      didn’t blame his teammates, didn’t ask for anybody to get traded. He looked himself in the mirror and said “i need to be better”..

  • @jalexb915
    @jalexb915 Před 2 měsíci +445

    MJ changing back from no. 45 to no. 23, is like when Clark Kent became human because he wanted to marry Lois Lane, but then went back to get his powers and turned back into Superman! 💪

    • @jamesmacker
      @jamesmacker Před 2 měsíci +10

      And still lost

    • @southernflavamaker
      @southernflavamaker Před 2 měsíci +2

      He should wore it for baseball.....and while drafting for Charlotte...and wore 45 in washington

    • @lokey987
      @lokey987 Před 2 měsíci +45

      ​@@jamesmacker then the next year 23 dropped 45 in the close out sweep

    • @Mr704kiam
      @Mr704kiam Před 2 měsíci +16

      So basically grant was that guy in the bar who punked Clark and made him mad

    • @Kalinbuggs
      @Kalinbuggs Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@lokey987poetic justice

  • @Rumble225-qe7fy
    @Rumble225-qe7fy Před 2 měsíci +29

    Mj had a torn ligament in his wrist as well. Still gave them 30 plus a game lol Biggest thing they were missing the rebounding of Horace as well as his defence. Once Rodman was in the Bulls swept the Magic.

  • @ck_idgaf1680
    @ck_idgaf1680 Před 2 měsíci +46

    Thank you B Shaw for mentioning the fact that they beat the Rockets in the reg season that year. Folks don't know or remember how much Drexler going to the Rockets changed that team. That Magic team was great that year, they were headed for the title.

    • @AlldatJazz-rw9wy
      @AlldatJazz-rw9wy Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah but it didn't amount to much, especially since they got swept.... And by a 6th seed, under .500 team. H-town baby.... 🚀🚀🚀🚀. Never underestimate the heart of a champion....

    • @RaiderGannon12
      @RaiderGannon12 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Rockets were 47 in 35 that season, they kept getting better and better in each round of the playoffs, beating the Jazz, Suns, Spurs anyone remember the dream shake Hakeem put on David Robinson, I think when the Magic lost game 1 in the fashion they did, it destroyed there confidence the rest of the series.

    • @andrewj.chappelliii9739
      @andrewj.chappelliii9739 Před 2 měsíci +1

      G1 changed that series let's be honest. Even with Drexler, the Magic, Nick Anderson, choked in G1. For a young team to lose that way is crippling. A young team is not as resilient to bounce back. If they win G1, it's a totally different series. Nick Amderson game took every last breath out of the Magic.

  • @rolliemosley
    @rolliemosley Před 2 měsíci +26

    Kobe Jordan canceling each other out? Stop it. The main difference between Kobe and Jordan is efficiency. Kobe never shot 50% in a season. Jordan shot that for his career. Hate to bust you guys bubble.

    • @brown123487
      @brown123487 Před 2 měsíci

      And Kobe would of tried to go 2on 1 with Mike,and would have fed right in the hands of what Phil wanted to do,Shaq would of had less touches,penny played better in Orlando with Shaq than Kobe did

    • @brown123487
      @brown123487 Před 2 měsíci +1

      1on 1 I mean

  • @Aswinishere
    @Aswinishere Před 2 měsíci +6

    What MJ did was crazy: he took more than a year off to play another completely different sport, came back and lost the Conference Finals, then came back strong, finished with a 72-10 team record, and completed another three-peat. Imagine what was going on in his head. The motivation is crazy.

  • @yrnxkj7607
    @yrnxkj7607 Před 2 měsíci +59

    Rodman was the perfect fix for the Bulls.

    • @entertainingsportshighligh7525
      @entertainingsportshighligh7525 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Once the BULLS added RODMAN that following season, and formed that (BIG-3 SUPERTEAM ), it was all over

    • @jujuju948
      @jujuju948 Před 2 měsíci +1

      100%. That Bulls team was weak in the front court in 1995.

    • @HeathOverledger
      @HeathOverledger Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@entertainingsportshighligh7525they were *not* a superteam. With Rodman, offensively they were essentially playing 4 on 5

    • @dododump3144
      @dododump3144 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@HeathOverledgerRodman was a good passer and an elite offensive rebounder he was not a negative on offense especially back in the slow 90s when no bigs could shoot

    • @michaelvasquez2267
      @michaelvasquez2267 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@HeathOverledger tell us you don't know basketball without telling us you don't know basketball.

  • @lmcmill5964
    @lmcmill5964 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I remember clear as day when RODMAN went to the BULLS. There was a headline on this magazine that read….”Hair and Air, can it work?” And it surely did 😁Those were the days

    • @paulusrumanouw3176
      @paulusrumanouw3176 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Rodman was having problems with everyone and nobody wanted him with all his crazy antics! Some say Bulls made a superteam cuz they got him, but those people don't realize the mindset, how much of a huge gamble the Bulls took to get Rodman. Absolutely great credit must be given to the Phil, MJ, and the Bulls org leadership to have the bravery taking that gamble which obviously paid off big time, but I also was damn scared it ended up in disaster! To the credit of Rodman too, I think he really respected Phil & MJ cuz he knew these guys were absolute proven winners so he willingly followed their lead.

  • @jalexb915
    @jalexb915 Před 2 měsíci +61

    Shaw makes an excellent point: We'd just pass the ball into Shaq (in today's game) and he'd foul everyone out. (I think he'd have some games with points in the 70s and/or rebounds in the 30s in today's game)

    • @josephgarrett7433
      @josephgarrett7433 Před 2 měsíci +2

      The nba wouldn't let all the players foul out, maybe to bigs Max, that they let foul out you also have take into account 3 points is more than 2 I just watched zion and bi vs Lakers recently zion couldn't be stopped at the rim but the Lakers were hitting every 3 pointer had like 90 points at the half to the pels like 74 or something if prime steph and klay making all their three's it don't matter how many dunks or fouls shaq draw it be fun to watch tho

    • @gibgiuseppe
      @gibgiuseppe Před 2 měsíci +2

      I was wondering why despite the increase in pace and stats going up, nobody is grabbing, let's say, 18 rebs a game. Big men are forced to guard the perimeter and with so many 3s shot, you get many long rebounds going to guards. I'd be curious to see Shaq in this game style, but on offense for sure he'd kill everyone

    • @robertb4805
      @robertb4805 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Rodman really is undervalued in the history of the league. People seem to only remember him for rebounding. His defensive mastery and timely offense seem to be forgotten. He would have been a major factor in a series against the Lakers. Jordan and Kobe canceling each other out is debatable. The Bulls overall roster was better than that Lakers squad. Detroit was a huge problem for that Lakers team but we are to believe that the Bulls would have no answers. Interesting…

    • @gibgiuseppe
      @gibgiuseppe Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@robertb4805 Detroit was a problem in 2004. Not sure how problematic they would have been in 2000-01. Shaq was in better shape and the Lakers had more talent in the supporting cast.
      Rodman dealt very well with Shaq in 1996, but he couldn't handle him in 2000.
      It would be an interesting series! Regardless of the matchups, I tend to consider the 96 Bulls the best team because they had an incredibly stifling defense and more killer instinct than any other team maybe

    • @TheSoulstar7
      @TheSoulstar7 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Zion is nothing in the realm of dominance as Shaq was. Plus he’s way smaller.

  • @luisreyes8903
    @luisreyes8903 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I never thought that it was odd that he went from one game to the next and changed his number. That’s power. League wasn’t gonna deny him that

  • @colbydobbs6399
    @colbydobbs6399 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Brian Shaw, what an excellent guest. You sort of forget just how many important teams he was on, and also how long he’s been coaching.

  • @orkahn31
    @orkahn31 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Excellent commentary by b-Shaw when talking about the Jordan vs the magic team. I remember those series as if it were yesterday. When Jordan faced them the 2nd time around, he destroyed the magic along with Rodman who totally outplayed Horace grant who all of a sudden got hurt in that series. To penny’s credit, he had a Gr8 series but Jordan was just Spectacular! They swept the Magic, and sent shaq to the west Coast. If shaq had returned the following yr, it’s safe to say the Bulls would have just beaten them again.

  • @ronnies5900
    @ronnies5900 Před 2 měsíci +32

    “Jordan and kobe cancel each other out”
    😂😂😂😂
    Sure
    The interesting part would of been Shaq but Rodman had been locking him down for years

    • @SmallVille23
      @SmallVille23 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I agree with you..I Don't know what this guy is smoking😂

    • @TheDocmike23
      @TheDocmike23 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He is delusional when he says that🤦🏾‍♂️🤣

    • @skproductions8495
      @skproductions8495 Před 2 měsíci

      mind you, kobe was 20-22 during that run i could understand if we were talking prime kobe but cmon now..

    • @emack4371
      @emack4371 Před 2 měsíci

      Kobe averaged the same amount of points in the Indiana finals as Austin Croshere.....and he missed almost 2 games.......these Kobe fans are dillusional

  • @RyccoLamar
    @RyccoLamar Před 2 měsíci +8

    He changed to 23 in game 2 and torched their asses to go back to Chicago tied 1-1

  • @drewlavay
    @drewlavay Před 2 měsíci +6

    He showed up in 23 game 2 in Orlando, not Chicago.
    I still remember watching it as a kid when he was walking out for the tip-off, thinking they were showing old clips.

  • @timhoward5
    @timhoward5 Před 2 měsíci +3

    *3:21** Lol, that's cold putting that up, lol.*

  • @ariesballesteros5881
    @ariesballesteros5881 Před 2 měsíci +6

    He forgot to mention that Horace injured his shoulder in game 1 and was out the rest of the series. That was the biggest blow on the Magic vs Bulls

    • @thewatcher819
      @thewatcher819 Před 2 měsíci

      🤫

    • @keithglass4891
      @keithglass4891 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The biggest blow was a well oiled MJ. Losing Horace hurt but it was over

  • @AlldatJazz-rw9wy
    @AlldatJazz-rw9wy Před 2 měsíci +5

    People out here talking about how the Magic beat the Rockets in the regular season, and trust me I didn't like the trade for Drexler at first neither, but what they did, will probably never be done again, by winning from a 6th seed, being .500 under and sweeping a young stronger team. I feel Jordan was elated with that, and couldn't wait to get his turn at the Magic.

  • @jaygotitdahardway9941
    @jaygotitdahardway9941 Před 2 měsíci +6

    #45 hit different…😂💯

  • @plusmagnificent
    @plusmagnificent Před 2 měsíci +5

    He said no one would have a an answer for Shaq but Jordan and the 96 bulls swept the magic and prime shaq that same year. 96 bulls vs 00' Lakers = Bulls in 5 .

  • @TedStoltman-wk2kf
    @TedStoltman-wk2kf Před 2 měsíci +5

    Paul is a natural. Keep up the great work.

  • @bernardokerr
    @bernardokerr Před 2 měsíci +9

    B Shaw so eloquent. Amazing stories

  • @Boss3Nate
    @Boss3Nate Před 2 měsíci +20

    Rodman was the real difference. Thank God the Bulls got him. I really don't think there's any way they're winning 3 straight again without that guy. For sure brought his drama and still had his moments but he was the difference

    • @bigant608
      @bigant608 Před 2 měsíci +3

      That's what made it more entertaining, all of his theatrics off the court was nullified by his action on the court. Hence HOF. 110percent. The grimey dirty work, the defense of any player the sacrifice of body.

    • @supersimpextraordinaire5362
      @supersimpextraordinaire5362 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He and Kukoc

    • @Boss3Nate
      @Boss3Nate Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@supersimpextraordinaire5362 no doubt! Kukoc deserves a lot of love

  • @jasonwishere3121
    @jasonwishere3121 Před 2 měsíci

    Brian Shaw made alot of smart arguements...absolutely a blessing to listen to a justified and logical explanation...

  • @codg3484
    @codg3484 Před 2 měsíci +5

    never knew some of this stuff. shout out to podcast p and crew for bringing old heads on this podcast along with new cats

  • @billyjenkins3672
    @billyjenkins3672 Před 2 měsíci +15

    The Bulls would’ve tricked Kobe into making it a 1 one 1 game . Lakers basketball IQ isn’t as high as those Bulls . Bulls in 5

    • @mikeal-lateef_5138
      @mikeal-lateef_5138 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Thank you😂 I said the same thing.

    • @billyjenkins3672
      @billyjenkins3672 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@mikeal-lateef_5138 Phil Jackson said in one of his books he avoided the Jazz while he was in LA Lolol . He was happy when Sacramento beat em lol

    • @davis2k1234
      @davis2k1234 Před 2 měsíci

      Although I’m taking 1996 Bulls over any team in a 7 game series to just dismiss the 2001 Lakers is non sense not a 5 game series def going 7

    • @billyjenkins3672
      @billyjenkins3672 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@davis2k1234 I bet it won’t with Rick Fox getting major mins. Scottie ain’t Peja and The Bulls aren’t mentally weak like the kings .

    • @davis2k1234
      @davis2k1234 Před 2 měsíci

      @@billyjenkins3672 Rick fox? That’s the least of the Bulls concerns Kobe and Shaq in 2001 are the 2 greatest teammates in NBA history and it’s not close

  • @Leo-gh7nz
    @Leo-gh7nz Před 2 měsíci +10

    He changed in GM2. First game Bulls we’re about to win but Anderson stole ball from MJ and then afterwards talked trash about 45 not being the same as 23. So MJ came out wearing 23 in GM2 still in Orlando and Bulls won that game.

    • @beevee2312
      @beevee2312 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yup. MJ dropped 37 in game 2.

  • @MrAce-lm8es
    @MrAce-lm8es Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Michael Jordan Revenge Tour 1995-'96 Is The Stuff Of Legend. Alongside the rest of The Chicago Bulls, That particular Team became the most dangerous ever in NBA History.

  • @user-gn3ko9nh7i
    @user-gn3ko9nh7i Před 2 měsíci +23

    MJ 🐐. He didn’t take the shortcut to win rings.

    • @arashhejazi9783
      @arashhejazi9783 Před 2 měsíci +1

      If lebron looses to shaq with a hof and his team ads another hof in rodman, peole like you will say he cheated or teaming up

    • @HARVEY_1988
      @HARVEY_1988 Před 2 měsíci +6

      He had an all time great GM who put the pieces in place… Clown

    • @user-gn3ko9nh7i
      @user-gn3ko9nh7i Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@HARVEY_1988 ohhh Bron didn’t have enough pieces around him is your excuse huh? What’s the excuse for 2011?

    • @entertainingsportshighligh7525
      @entertainingsportshighligh7525 Před 2 měsíci

      Once the BULLS added RODMAN that following season, and formed that (BIG-3 SUPERTEAM ), it was all over

    • @jaunenito
      @jaunenito Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@HARVEY_1988 Yes, that same GM hired Tim Floyd & turned into a lottery team. Stop the nonsense. Jordan made that team elite. Period. Jerry Krause should have sent flowers to Portland for life making him look genius.

  • @Ihearttaylorswif
    @Ihearttaylorswif Před 2 měsíci +5

    That Magic Team was a monster.

  • @nickgleeson7168
    @nickgleeson7168 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Jordans mind state was second to none miss that competitive mentality of going all out miss it

  • @DaseanCrazyogiMcAlpin
    @DaseanCrazyogiMcAlpin Před 2 měsíci

    This was a great interview

  • @markula_4040
    @markula_4040 Před 2 měsíci +12

    That was Jordan's first full season back going 72-10 and 15-3 in the playoffs. Makes you wonder how those 2 years in-between 3peats would have gone had he didn't retire to play baseball. Could he have 8peated or even 9peated (seeing how he might have wanted to hang on for 1 more season to surpass the 1960's Celtics 8 straight)? And if he did that, would LeBron fans STILL call him the GOAT even with him at half of Jordan's titles?

    • @Dottor_J
      @Dottor_J Před 2 měsíci +3

      Jordan himself believes not. A 3peat campaign is incredibly tough on the body and the mind.
      They would probably take a L in 94 or 95 because of wear and tear and assuming they reach the finals Houston was a very solid team with an all time great center.
      I'd even say there's a chance they drop one of 2nd 3peat rings since the team would be different had MJ not retired

    • @gibgiuseppe
      @gibgiuseppe Před 2 měsíci +2

      I doubt it. They would have burnt out physically and mentally. MJ was under pressure with his gambling habits, the death of his father and press attention.
      I think he really benefited from that year off, he rediscovered love and motivation and that void allowed Pippen and Kucoc to grow

    • @2019_NBA_CHAMPS
      @2019_NBA_CHAMPS Před 2 měsíci

      Also, it’s not easy continuing to build roster. Eventually they have to refresh players and not every trade or signing is guaranteed to work.

    • @hiitsme3039
      @hiitsme3039 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Jordan said he probably lose but he said he would had have 7 rings because he believed they would of won in 99 if everybody came back

    • @gibgiuseppe
      @gibgiuseppe Před 2 měsíci

      @@hiitsme3039we'll never know, but I doubt it. Rodman was old, Pippen was injured, Jordan wasn't getting any younger. 98 was the hardest ring, and Duncan and Robinson would be a new unique challenge.

  • @johngrizzard2082
    @johngrizzard2082 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Shaw 57 Scottie 58 mike 61.close in age 😂😂😂shaw you funny

  • @alex1vid
    @alex1vid Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember that series. As a Bulls fan you hoped for something that deep down you knew wasn't likely. The Bulls were a barely over .500 team for the season. Jordan took them further than they had any business being in the playoffs then. Even though Jordan was rounding into form, the Magic were legit. Young Shaq, young Penny... and what people don't get is that the two of them, Penny in particular, had a full year WITHOUT Jordan in the league where his confidence could just grow. Orlando fully were favorites and deserved to win. It's still shocking how that finals vs. the Rockets went down to me. Shaq deserved better. Dream was incredible but Shaq didn't let up either and was outstanding.
    Love Jordan as a player. But there's no denying that mentally he just destroyed guys on the court. So much of it was mental and he owned folks.

  • @wingman-1977
    @wingman-1977 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It was after game 1 when Nick Anderson made the “45 isn’t 23” comment and then in game 2 is when Mike broke back out 23.

  • @lonsolo5607
    @lonsolo5607 Před 2 měsíci +34

    96 Chicago Bulls. Would Have Smoked 01 Lakers and 16 Warriors.

    • @brianwatson7099
      @brianwatson7099 Před 2 měsíci +2

      01 Lakers winning if Phil is the Coach & the Warriors Bench is better then the Bulls Bench so Bulls would lose both series

    • @pistolpete007
      @pistolpete007 Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@brianwatson7099Bruh stop capping. Nobody touching MJ &Pip.

    • @lonsolo5607
      @lonsolo5607 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@brianwatson7099 16 Warriors Couldn’t Even Beat 16 Cavaliers. As Long As The 96 Bulls Has Tex Winters. Bulls Smoking 🚬 Lakers! You Need To Learn More About Basketball 🏀

    • @kapilanmathialagan
      @kapilanmathialagan Před 2 měsíci +2

      Nah warriors destroying them all

    • @pistolpete007
      @pistolpete007 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@kapilanmathialagan Lmao!!!....What the hell Draymond going to do? NOTHING!!!

  • @tycoach2169
    @tycoach2169 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Brian Shaw w legendary stories. Great Interview GOAT George!

  • @paulusrumanouw3176
    @paulusrumanouw3176 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Well Rodman did stop Shaq in that Bulls sweep of the Magic. Then despite how great Kobe was, MJ would still had the edge over him, so I'd think the Bulls would still come out on top of the 3 peat Lakers but it would have been a close tough match up.

    • @yayz9442
      @yayz9442 Před 2 měsíci

      that was young shaq. we talking about grown man lakers shaq

    • @paulusrumanouw3176
      @paulusrumanouw3176 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@yayz9442 that Magic Shaq already on his 4th year, avg. 26-29ppg and a 300lbs backboard breaking behemoth! So that version was already very close to his peak. That 96 Magic team was also a strong 60w team.

    • @yayz9442
      @yayz9442 Před 2 měsíci

      @@paulusrumanouw3176 wasn’t prime lakers shaq. We both know he was a different animal on the lakers.

    • @paulusrumanouw3176
      @paulusrumanouw3176 Před 2 měsíci

      @@yayz9442 Rodman might not be able to stop Shaq like when in Magic but I think he could reduce the productivity quite significantly.

    • @yayz9442
      @yayz9442 Před 2 měsíci

      @@paulusrumanouw3176 doubtful. Rodman would just foul out like everyone else. Shaq was straight up unguardable for a few years

  • @user-ow3jl5dp5o
    @user-ow3jl5dp5o Před 2 měsíci

    I saw B Shaw at hooters w H grant in Orlando and I remember telling Bshaw great triple double...looked back that was his only triple double ! Both stand up dudes

  • @johngrizzard2082
    @johngrizzard2082 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Jordan the goat point blank.

  • @d1bucha72
    @d1bucha72 Před 2 měsíci +3

    He musta forgot how good Rodman guarded Shaq in the post

  • @cyber6sapien
    @cyber6sapien Před 2 měsíci +18

    Correction B Shaw. Jordan and Shaq would cancel each other out. Jordan was the Shaq of shooting guards, according to Reggie Miller.

    • @jsn23nc
      @jsn23nc Před 2 měsíci +1

      Jordan could play with anyone. Him and Shaq would have never lost. Kobe was almost the same exact palyer as MJ

  • @jayt-mac2074
    @jayt-mac2074 Před 2 měsíci

    Good stuff.

  • @GiganticSky
    @GiganticSky Před 2 měsíci +11

    Great convo but B Shaw confused the 73 win Warriors with the ‘17 warriors that had KD. He was asked about the KD warriors but answered using the 16 warriors.
    Also he omitted that H Grant was injured during the rematch series where the magic got swept. I still think the bulls win that series but it would’ve def been a different dynamic.

    • @jaecrawford9691
      @jaecrawford9691 Před 2 měsíci

      Bingo

    • @brown123487
      @brown123487 Před 2 měsíci

      They still would've been swept,bulls blew them out bad with Horace in the line up

  • @949OC714
    @949OC714 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Nah, the Lakers threepeat is overshadowed by all the controversy.

  • @sandeeverba3858
    @sandeeverba3858 Před 2 měsíci

    Agree. No player dominant insde the paint like Shaq yet. I have said that to my players and friends ever since the 3 pt era and fast line up began. It will only return once a very dominant inside force arrives. The line up will change to adjust to the inside game and the game will become more balance(inside and outside game). Problem is big players with potential to dominate the painy do not focus to be dominant inside the paint, instead they practice to play outside and shoot the ball at the 3 point line also.

  • @dakotajones9150
    @dakotajones9150 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The question was the Warriors with KD not the 73 win Warriors before KD.

  • @bigben1986
    @bigben1986 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I loved it when the Bulls swept the Magic. Me and my brother and friends were ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @dparks2856
      @dparks2856 Před 2 měsíci

      Shaq was in his 4th season and Penny in his 3rd season. The Bulls should have won

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dparks2856Excuses, Shaq was slimmer, younger and more athletic with the Magic tha he was in LA and Penny had one of his 2 best seasons in his career. The Magic still got their asses whooped and the Bulls sent Shaq out of the Magic to the Lakers that off-season.

  • @alex1vid
    @alex1vid Před 2 měsíci +1

    Oh! And Shaw is TOTALLY RIGHT about the Grant on shoulders bit. That pi$$ed Jordan off like you wouldn't believe. To add insult to injury, Grant missed much of the series in the playoffs of that 72 win team but in that first game, Grant was there, it was a blowout (Bulls swept), and he was thoroughly outplayed by Rodman who even outscored him.

  • @dam8856
    @dam8856 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shaq definitely missed the question, he said the warriors with KD not the 73-9 warriors

  • @joeball13
    @joeball13 Před 2 měsíci

    That 45 mike jersey is classic

  • @andresdelportillo9917
    @andresdelportillo9917 Před 2 měsíci +3

    That Magic team got swept by Hakeem 😂

  • @ericmnr
    @ericmnr Před 2 měsíci

    That speech reflects the defeatist attitude of someone who hasn't even tried to compete. It's reminiscent of the narratives we often hear from players who faced Jordan. Had they not harbored such defeatist mindsets, the outcome would likely have been very different. In boxing, Evander Holyfield's victory over Tyson serves as a prime example of what can happen when someone refuses to be mentally defeated.

  • @entertainingsportshighligh7525
    @entertainingsportshighligh7525 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Once the BULLS added RODMAN that following season, and formed that (BIG-3 SUPERTEAM ), it was all over

    • @jaunenito
      @jaunenito Před 2 měsíci

      It was a wrap!

    • @jhad777
      @jhad777 Před 2 měsíci +20

      That team was NEVER a superteam…A superteam consist of 3 Current Allstars on the same team…No-one called the Bulls a superteam back then…Ya’ll love to try and revise history

    • @Poetryinnonmotion
      @Poetryinnonmotion Před 2 měsíci +13

      It wasn't a super team. Having Rodman on your team with 2 other superstars won't make them a superteam. You could put Rodman on ANY other team at that time and they will be lucky to make the playoffs. Nobody was gellling with Rodman and nobody got the best out of him. When he got with the Bulls, and playing with the GOAT, brought a rare opportunity to do something special. Only MJ would have garnered the respect to get the best out of Rodman cus he had the clout that Rodman respected and woul listen to

    • @tajgibson8776
      @tajgibson8776 Před 2 měsíci +9

      They were not a super team. They only had one all star MJ I think

    • @entertainingsportshighligh7525
      @entertainingsportshighligh7525 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@tajgibson8776 that means the 2016 CAVS werent a Superteam, because LEBRON was the only ALLSTAR Selected that season

  • @stephenpato5524
    @stephenpato5524 Před 2 měsíci

    No answer for Shaq is often said, but Shaq teams were routinely taken to 6-7 games (or swept)....dominant statistical nightmare, yes, but his teams were routinely challenged. Those Indiana, Utah, and Portland teams were a handful, but aren't better than GSW (or the '16 Cavs).
    Full respect to B Shaw, this was a great pod 👏🏽👏🏽!

    • @coreyburns2074
      @coreyburns2074 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Dude you are spot on !!!!! Shaq was a monster no doubt but the bulls defense was so elite they’d bother him for sure !!!! No question people forget how nasty Rodman and pip and mj was on defense the thing is Kobe was nice too but both of them not getting off vs the bulls it’s one or the other

  • @jezboss1
    @jezboss1 Před 2 měsíci

    I love the fact that aint nobody has an answer for Shaq. Like he says. Too big. Too fast. Too strong

  • @rommeljimenez4765
    @rommeljimenez4765 Před 2 měsíci

    Intelligent analysis.
    However i noticed people always forget about Toni Kukoc and his abilities

  • @BGambino-it8ms
    @BGambino-it8ms Před 2 měsíci +1

    I loved penny but I thank the magic every time I hear this story 😂😂

  • @deejayy8303
    @deejayy8303 Před 2 měsíci

    I remember seeing Shaw playing on the lakers, but I ain’t know he was THAT old with his career lol

  • @Macjay7474
    @Macjay7474 Před 2 měsíci +1

    96 Bulls won 72 and turn around in 97 and won 69 games. That 97 team was a mfer as well

  • @MrAce-lm8es
    @MrAce-lm8es Před 2 měsíci

    Immediately after The 1995 Eastern Conference Semifinals, Michael Jordan went straight into training in the Gym, filmed "Space Jam 1995", and trained while on set. The season arrives, and the rest is History.

  • @user-wk1yw5ph6f
    @user-wk1yw5ph6f Před 2 měsíci

    B shaw💯

  • @libfit9068
    @libfit9068 Před 2 měsíci

    5:55 interesting perspective considering he had Shaq on his team when those same Bulls swept them in one of the biggest margins of victory for a series ever.

  • @robertfranks665
    @robertfranks665 Před 2 měsíci

    Where the Magic messed up, they celebrated raising Horace Grant in the air like they won the championship in front of the Bulls. MJ always took in game and post game celebrations personally. Thats all the motivation the Bulls needed to sweep the Magic the following year. Great take by Brian Shaw.

  • @sniperjay0916
    @sniperjay0916 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Pip ,Rodman & MJ's defense and IQ are 2nd2None...forget about it,no discussion!

  • @yendor86
    @yendor86 Před 2 měsíci +1

    People forget how Rodman played against Shaq. Rodman gave Shaq problems because Rodman wasn't intimidated by his size. And Rodman's mental game was unbeatable. In the end, the Lakers have no answer for Pippen. That's the difference in that series.

  • @WawaMarvel
    @WawaMarvel Před 2 měsíci +2

    You can’t say Jordan and Kobe cancel each other out.

  • @user-dx3gx8vt5k
    @user-dx3gx8vt5k Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dennis Rodman was the answer for Shaq, as well as Luc Longley and Bill Wennington who the Bulls had at Center to make it difficult for Shaq. The X factor would've been Pippen because the Lakers didn't have anybody to guard him. Pippen and Jordan would've taken turns guarding Kobe, which would've allowed Jordan to out play Kobe. The Bulls would've beat the Shaq & Kobe Lakers because the Bulls were a deeper teem.

  • @lamarwashington7093
    @lamarwashington7093 Před 2 měsíci

    If Shaq was the NBA’s Superman then Kobe was definitely Batman. Bro knew everybody’s game, didn’t really like many people(he did but didn’t really show it on the court) and you gained his respect by playing tough and working hard. Always training.

  • @maxowy9039
    @maxowy9039 Před 2 měsíci

    PG with the PG shirt

  • @Oklasbrah
    @Oklasbrah Před 2 měsíci

    P asked about the KD warriors not the 2016 squad..I’ll take the dubs

  • @matthieusaade3616
    @matthieusaade3616 Před 2 měsíci +3

    5:48 no they don't 😂.
    Love Kobe ,but he was never on MJs level offensively or defensively

  • @crossgordon4376
    @crossgordon4376 Před 2 měsíci +2

    imagine if Shaq and Jordan were allowed to travel

  • @jordanlover23
    @jordanlover23 Před 2 měsíci

    Little known fact about that ‘95 Bulls-Magic series: after changing back to #23, Jordan scored a combined 65 points in the second half of game 3 (I think) and the first half of game 4 (30 and 35 points).

  • @manzellix
    @manzellix Před 2 měsíci

    I understand promotion but its still funny how PG wearin a shirt of himself lol

  • @hendrikdalnoot2821
    @hendrikdalnoot2821 Před 2 měsíci

    He mentioned 2015-16 Warriors but the question was about the Warriors with Kd

  • @user-bd2no6zq2j
    @user-bd2no6zq2j Před 2 měsíci

    I remember every player on that magic team. They were America's team that year

  • @briananderson9650
    @briananderson9650 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Everybody forgets Shaq ran to Kobe to get his ring😂

  • @AI__AI__AI
    @AI__AI__AI Před 2 měsíci

    MJ fan here but Brian S well spoken dood.. No problem w/ he said. I actually prefer 91-93 bulls because of the quickest 3 men rotation in MJ/Pippen/Horace.
    Their full court trap use to give people hell. MJ could literally kill the other team. I give lot of credit to Rodman and Kukoc and their team was more seasoned than 91-93. But I admit, prime shaq was handful and mean. It would have been good match up.

  • @LuisRivera-tt2ub
    @LuisRivera-tt2ub Před 2 měsíci

    When they swept that Magic team, I knew there was no one who can beat them

  • @himgod6495
    @himgod6495 Před 2 měsíci

    I think he came back against the pacers , I think his 2st shot was a lay-up that he missed, from what I remember.

  • @skproductions8495
    @skproductions8495 Před 2 měsíci

    the warriors disrespect kinda wild just because they got injured and couldnt 3 peat. no ones completely shutting down shaq kobe or mike, but no ones shutting down steph or kd either

  • @csurams84
    @csurams84 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Nick Anderson free throws 😢

  • @fishoutofwaterseries1424
    @fishoutofwaterseries1424 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Of course it's Nick Anderson what hasn't he done to mess up the Orlando Magic

  • @freshnewstartinchrist
    @freshnewstartinchrist Před 2 měsíci +3

    Dennis Rodman could deal well with Shaq

  • @obatron1
    @obatron1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Jordan came back with a vengeance, Rodman shut down Shaq.

  • @Madskillsuniversity
    @Madskillsuniversity Před 2 měsíci

    Now I see why Horace Grant teamed up with Scottie on MJ their hate tour. LOL

  • @carlreynolds7043
    @carlreynolds7043 Před 2 měsíci

    No one cancels MJ out so I’ll give the edge to Jordan vs Kobe. The Bulls played against Shaq many times and in the playoffs. Not saying the Bulls would stop him completely but Rodman always did a good job guarding Shaq and with the Bulls other centers that would keep Shaq in check. Other than that I don’t have a problem with what Brian Shaw said.

  • @Aswinishere
    @Aswinishere Před 2 měsíci

    MJ sticked with the Bulls; He didn't joined another superstar. He didn't complain. He didn't cry. He didn't flop. He didn't load manage.

  • @chukwunonyeanyakoha8573
    @chukwunonyeanyakoha8573 Před 2 měsíci

    I think thr Bulls have thw edge. Pippen in the defence mght probably make a difference... especially perimeter defence.

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    @nbapbaupdate8338 Před měsícem +1

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