What Really Happened Between Latrell Sprewell & PJ Carlesimo

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  • @NotoriousSSV
    @NotoriousSSV Před 2 měsíci +1836

    This really is the first time I've heard a full breakdown of this story 😂

  • @JoeyHuman
    @JoeyHuman Před 2 měsíci +948

    Dickey Simpkins signed with the Bulls, shot 63% off the bench, got playoff mins for the first time and won his third ring after Warriors released him. Love that ending for him.

  • @kvaka009
    @kvaka009 Před 2 měsíci +86

    Robert Horry is solid for backing him up.

  • @DJ--ALLDAY
    @DJ--ALLDAY Před 2 měsíci +122

    Man, '94 Warriors Sprewell, C Webb, Tim Hardaway, Chris Mullen, was The Truth

    • @HardworkMook
      @HardworkMook Před 2 měsíci +2

      They had a nice line up but didn't go nowhere or do anything!?!

    • @Hrdwy
      @Hrdwy Před 2 měsíci +3

      That's because Tim Hardaway tore his knee. But they still made it to the playoffs

    • @HardworkMook
      @HardworkMook Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Hrdwy it was more than that they played a significant amount of time with each other,they had a good squad but they wasn't going anywhere it was more of individual play than as a team,even if Hardaway didnt get hurt they still wouldnt have really went anywhere,they was one of those teams with talent but wasnt going to get too far!;?!

    • @Hrdwy
      @Hrdwy Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@HardworkMook I disagree because Tim Hardaway was the point guard so usually a good orchestrator like him we keep everybody balanced they was scorers not selfish players so him healthy at point would have helped them blossom keep in mind Webber and Sprewell were very young back then

    • @Hrdwy
      @Hrdwy Před 2 měsíci

      I think Webber was already gone they had Joe Smith

  • @xohxoh6531
    @xohxoh6531 Před 2 měsíci +546

    We need a 30 for 30 on this story. And the aftermath for each player that stood up. This would not fly in today’s era.

    • @Lamar4mvp
      @Lamar4mvp Před 2 měsíci +17

      You’re absolutely right it wouldn’t. A player now would be banished from the league. As they should be..

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 Před 2 měsíci +98

      ​​@@Lamar4mvpSprewell did nothing wrong PJ was disrespectful talking to another Grown Man like that period and of course the media made the black man the villain

    • @dustinmosbrucker1347
      @dustinmosbrucker1347 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Exactly how the NBA molded Jordan into the phony goat of cuz the 89’a whipped his ahhh, nba gave Jordan All his DPOYS😊

    • @LPjunemark
      @LPjunemark Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@darnellwilliams8783how about the thieves on nike,jewelry and apple store. I'm sure no one provoked them. Stop making statements that all black people are good and innocent. All race can be good or evil.

    • @mikebuckets
      @mikebuckets Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@dustinmosbrucker1347 Phony post

  • @x5p_
    @x5p_ Před 2 měsíci +445

    "you got traded too?"
    "nah they CUT me" lmaooo

    • @ricosauve5
      @ricosauve5 Před 2 měsíci +28

      It worked out for Dickey. He went back to the Bulls that season and won his 3rd title

    • @slasher5871
      @slasher5871 Před 2 měsíci +4

      😂😂😂

    • @louio
      @louio Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@ricosauve5wow...

  • @raiderbigal1712
    @raiderbigal1712 Před 2 měsíci +44

    Thanks for clearing up the Latrell Sprewell story for a old guy and life long warriors fan, those were hard days for us for many reasons but something I missed hearing after that was “Spree from 3”! Thanks my dudes!

  • @Where_Brklyn_At
    @Where_Brklyn_At Před 2 měsíci +40

    I don’t know any Wu-Tang songs that go; “you don’t wanna fuck with a soldier.” Sounds like No Limit to me.

    • @missayawk
      @missayawk Před 2 měsíci +10

      I was thinking the same. Just the word " SOLDIER" alone is not Wu vocab.

    • @nyckyfossitt432
      @nyckyfossitt432 Před 2 měsíci +10

      He was probably thinking about Wu Tang ain't nothing to f with...

    • @ehunt
      @ehunt Před 2 měsíci +10

      It was no limit shaw is just older wu tang and no limit is the same thing to him

    • @Just_A_Name14
      @Just_A_Name14 Před 26 dny

      @@ehuntthen he’s suffering from dementia

  • @parkersutton3523
    @parkersutton3523 Před 2 měsíci +504

    Story mode is the best thing to happen in the world of player podcasts. Hearing these stories is entertainment on end. Please keep featuring the OG’s!

    • @dmccartysr986
      @dmccartysr986 Před 2 měsíci +13

      Actually it’s sad…dude lost millions others were traded others were blackballed is what I got from this story. Bt hey it’s the American 🇺🇸 way I guess 🦅

    • @zackkazco2098
      @zackkazco2098 Před 2 měsíci

      this is why espn is crap...they want to focus on woke nonsense and tell us how great they are

    • @john_young
      @john_young Před 2 měsíci

      ys

    • @allpraisestoyah5033
      @allpraisestoyah5033 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dmccartysr986that’s life lmao

    • @hussienali7552
      @hussienali7552 Před 2 měsíci

      MORE IMPORTANTLY TO LEARN THE INSIDE TRUTH.

  • @Emation7
    @Emation7 Před 2 měsíci +449

    I was a huge Knicks fan as a kid and loved when Sprewell came to the Knicks. I did not like that certain sportscasters and reporters would never let the incident go. While Carlisimo went on to play victim and became a tv analyst.

    • @AlexL415
      @AlexL415 Před 2 měsíci +12

      You must carry around a tiny violin everywhere you go.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Před 2 měsíci +5

      Joe Smith talked about it on DJ Vlad

    • @gilfordmccormack8140
      @gilfordmccormack8140 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Same

    • @eboooo
      @eboooo Před 2 měsíci +3

      I thought PJ took some blame from what I heard.

    • @noodle123ify
      @noodle123ify Před 2 měsíci +22

      same, man. I was gonna say that as a Knicks fan i want to thank PJ for sending us Sprewell! one of my favorite Knick players

  • @Welldunn
    @Welldunn Před 2 měsíci +82

    It’s like the Bill Burr standup when he said “I wonder what she did”. There’s always context that leads to an event and the choke didn’t just manifest itself out of nowhere. What PJ did would be constituted as creating a hostile workplace environment and lead to termination in any other workplace.

    • @dwlc4288
      @dwlc4288 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Plus retaliation to the players for sticking by Sprewell's side

    • @davidsamuels9557
      @davidsamuels9557 Před 2 měsíci +19

      Excellent point. As Shaw said, Carlesimo brought that Bobby Knight college BS to the NBA. A white man talking to grown Black men like they were slaves led to the choke out.

    • @davidsamuels9557
      @davidsamuels9557 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@dwlc4288💯

    • @DD-sw1dd
      @DD-sw1dd Před 2 měsíci

      26 years later.
      “Here’s an oily rag!”

    • @anthonylloyd6105
      @anthonylloyd6105 Před 2 měsíci

      That was dave chappelle

  • @tro8191
    @tro8191 Před 2 měsíci +42

    Which is why as a die hard born n raised in Oaktown Warriors fan, to this day, PROUDLY sport my SPREWELL jersey. I wore it to the victory parade in Oakland in ‘15 and ‘17 and while screaming for the team during the parade in the front row of the barricades, Adonal Foyle literally stopped his parade car, walked over to me and said “I love your jersey man”.
    Always a SPREE fan!!!

    • @PistachiosPurses
      @PistachiosPurses Před 2 měsíci +4

      THERE YA GO!!! At least you know who the real ones are! ❤ Some of us weren't put on this planet for the BS!

    • @tro8191
      @tro8191 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@PistachiosPurses u know it bro!!👍

    • @vicshephard9231
      @vicshephard9231 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ✊🏿✊🏿

  • @crulio
    @crulio Před 2 měsíci +374

    25 years and we finally get some insight into what went down, salute to B-Shaw and those other guys for being real ones and standing with Spree!

    • @MrBmick79
      @MrBmick79 Před 2 měsíci +21

      You can imagine how PJ felt the night this happened. Can't think of anything more humbling than getting choked out cuz you was talkin outta pocket to somebody. This clip needs to go viral. Its gold

    • @mykedynomite
      @mykedynomite Před 2 měsíci +6

      Yes. Now I know why Spree went broke 😂

    • @vincenthammons-kd9du
      @vincenthammons-kd9du Před 2 měsíci +1

      could be lying

    • @BigCheefaDaOG
      @BigCheefaDaOG Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@mykedynomite he came up off them rims

    • @mykedynomite
      @mykedynomite Před 2 měsíci +4

      @BigCheefaDaOG no he actually didn't it wasn't his company. It was a sponsorship deal he lost 97 mill, he makes about 150k year now as a nyk representative

  • @KarlPostMalone
    @KarlPostMalone Před 2 měsíci +282

    PJ did a complete 180 coaching style after that ordeal. Remember there were free agents that didn’t want to play for GS while he was head coach and some even veto trades.

    • @ddave7026
      @ddave7026 Před 2 měsíci +36

      Randolph Childress.. was the one of the Green Light dudes! Carlisemo detailed his career at Portland. Bum coach

    • @bryankennedy3719
      @bryankennedy3719 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@ddave7026I agree lol

    • @jdrmanmusiqking
      @jdrmanmusiqking Před 2 měsíci +11

      Lol no he didn't. Theres a reason he was HATED in Brooklyn

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam Před 2 měsíci +13

      That's the last time he told anyone to put some f---ing mustard on his passes.

  • @mikedecembre743
    @mikedecembre743 Před 2 měsíci +43

    A disrespectful coach ruined a player’s career then played victim

    • @rexracer5292
      @rexracer5292 Před měsícem +6

      The truth is he wasn't that good. He was lazy. His best year he was the 5th best scorer with a 41 percent fg percentage. He wasn't a great rebounder, passer, teammate. He only excelled at causing trouble. He never won a single championship. When your coach yells at you to try harder .. you try harder.. Unless you think you are too good to try harder. No one had to tell Jordan, Kobe or other true greats to try harder. He had many more years in the NBA with other teams and he wasn't great when Carlismo was not there... his stats just kept getting worse. No one remembers him as a great. He could not follow simple rules. JAJAJAJAJA

    • @NatesLiveTalk
      @NatesLiveTalk Před měsícem

      Your trippin...sprewell was very good and was a all star!​@@rexracer5292

    • @Jerrybonds25
      @Jerrybonds25 Před 27 dny

      😂

    • @tonth1383
      @tonth1383 Před 23 dny

      ​@rexracer5292 PJ Carlisle should have stayed his a** in college and talked to them College kids like that. Hey, lucky spree Didn't break his m************ Jaw, you gotta give respect to get it when you're dealing with grown men. Don't talk s*** and then when that pressure come play the m************ victim.

    • @robertbui9030
      @robertbui9030 Před 21 dnem +5

      ​@@rexracer5292 if he wasn't 'that good', why did he end up as the leading scorer for the Knicks in the 1999 NBA Finals? He averaged 26.0 PPG btw against a young Tim Duncan and David Robinson (Allan Houston averaged 21.6)

  • @oMaJoJ
    @oMaJoJ Před 2 měsíci +53

    9 year old me had some pretty good intuition. My first thought was 'I wonder what his coach did to deserve that. That doesn't seem like something a person would just do.'

    • @PutridPenguinPoots
      @PutridPenguinPoots Před 23 dny +1

      100%. My first thought was "Damn that's crazy but there's got to be some reason why someone would just randomly choke their coach"
      Can't remember if sprewell was too or just showed up some but Horry and other basketball and football players were my student gym teachers in elementary school i.e. easy credits to hang out with kids so even as a Tennessee fan always followed those dudes in the league

  • @vharris5503
    @vharris5503 Před 2 měsíci +167

    I used to play basketball with someone who played at Seton when PJ was the coach. He flatly told me that he wasn't surprised when Sprewell choked him out cuz he used to talk to his players at Seton crazy

    • @cutime6712
      @cutime6712 Před 2 měsíci +18

      I remember when Seton Hall made they final four run. I was watching a game and the CBS announcer at the time Bill Raftery said PJ need to stop hollering at his players

    • @dantheman92317
      @dantheman92317 Před 15 dny

      I know when Dan Hurley played for him it sounded like he had a real hard time.

    • @adangracia3763
      @adangracia3763 Před 3 dny

      Did he choke his players too? Just wondering.

  • @chitzzz1384
    @chitzzz1384 Před 2 měsíci +800

    This shows how media destroyed spee, not taking his side of the story

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Před 2 měsíci

      Oh please. The guy was a violent thug. He had several violent run ins. Don't try to rewrite history

    • @troylee4196
      @troylee4196 Před 2 měsíci +113

      Media destroyed a lot of players smh

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Před 2 měsíci +47

      Oh please. He was a violent thug.

    • @andrewlowman8073
      @andrewlowman8073 Před 2 měsíci +122

      I'm pretty sure choking his coach destroyed his career

    • @heatman233223
      @heatman233223 Před 2 měsíci

      PJ deserved that shit. HE was warned and asked to leave spree alone. He pushed one more time and got them hands. When the players don't jump in right away, then knew he deserved that shit

  • @juice07x
    @juice07x Před 2 měsíci +12

    Damn Brian Shaw is like the Forrest Gump of the NBA. He was around every great player and wild moments.

  • @goldenfreddy-gj5wy
    @goldenfreddy-gj5wy Před 2 měsíci +6

    This incident is one I have never forgotten, even though I'm not a Warriors fan, I always wondered what happened, Latrell Spreewell never strike me as someone who would do something like that out of the blue, now it all makes sense.

  • @cappriment
    @cappriment Před 2 měsíci +326

    I worked for ESPN back in the day, 1 night after a game, I bumped into B Shaw at a bar. We had this near exact conversation that night.

    • @562LA2THEBAY
      @562LA2THEBAY Před 2 měsíci +9

      what u up to these days

    • @gffsgcc
      @gffsgcc Před 2 měsíci

      He typed that from a bar​@@562LA2THEBAY

    • @KwisBwown
      @KwisBwown Před 2 měsíci

      im GM of the Lakers fam @@562LA2THEBAY

    • @BigA678
      @BigA678 Před 2 měsíci

      It's so wild how certain type of people go out of their way to control the narrative and lie by omission

    • @roycedot
      @roycedot Před 2 měsíci +33

      Username says cap😂

  • @loganross1861
    @loganross1861 Před 2 měsíci +105

    Can always tell when someone is being honest and straight about something. Body language, speech. He wasn’t trying to twist the story or anything.

    • @twizzy585ful
      @twizzy585ful Před měsícem +3

      Always is cap

    • @code0102stinks
      @code0102stinks Před 29 dny +1

      I had the same reaction and thought from him telling the story.

  • @deepdeep2279
    @deepdeep2279 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Miss that era of basketball.
    Thank you Spree for the great memories in Golden State.
    It was a heart breaker, you put your heart on the floor when you played. To this day we have respect for you and your game.
    Miss the Don Nelson summer basketball camps...
    " Owns it!.. ." with Cweb

  • @hello.gumption
    @hello.gumption Před 2 měsíci +5

    When Sprewell was on and mentally into the game, it was poetry. I've never seen aggression meet finesse like that.. then and now. And he was a legitimate 2 way player. Legitimate, expend bulk energy on the best perimeter player then go and do some damage on offense. Fastest guy in the League. Dialed-in, prime '93, bald head, 1st Team Sprewell was on another level.
    What makes me lose my mind: Tim Hardaway recently said Sprewell never practiced in the off-season. He only worked during the season and then disappeared back home. He was a natural at this game.

    • @keithmurray3827
      @keithmurray3827 Před 2 měsíci +1

      And Sprewell didn't have a left hand and was STILL giving buckets 😂

    • @hello.gumption
      @hello.gumption Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@keithmurray3827 To this day I still don't how this happens. The man made 1st team all NBA and 2nd team all defense. Scouting on him was make him dribble left. One of the most interesting players ever to pass through.

  • @jzk0517
    @jzk0517 Před 2 měsíci +362

    “I’m Latrell Sprewell I’ll choke the coach” -Lil B

  • @HoopsFYI
    @HoopsFYI Před 2 měsíci +160

    "Regardless of rain or snow, sleet or hail / I kick street tales, choking 🥷 like I'm Sprewell / Golden State, holding your fate in the palm of my hand / Blow you away like it's a part of the plan" - Nature

    • @Blowtorchtheboyfriend
      @Blowtorchtheboyfriend Před 2 měsíci

      I gotta call it like I see it !!!!

    • @Ant_Odom
      @Ant_Odom Před 2 měsíci +14

      🔥
      “Banned from TV”

    • @DaPrognosis
      @DaPrognosis Před 2 měsíci +14

      Classic line from Nature “Banned from T.V. off the N.O.R.E. album ‘98!!!!

    • @kevinhousen2791
      @kevinhousen2791 Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@DaPrognosisone of the hardest tracks ever straight bars from everyone.

    • @Where_Brklyn_At
      @Where_Brklyn_At Před 2 měsíci +10

      One of the greatest opening bars ever.

  • @jayrule13
    @jayrule13 Před 2 měsíci +12

    This was a great synopsis of this situation. I knew about PJ being verbally coarse wih the players, but it is good to really find out the build-up to the incident and the fallout.

  • @whodey2379
    @whodey2379 Před měsícem +3

    The original “Fu@k around and find out”moment in NBA history 😂😂

  • @richardwilliams5842
    @richardwilliams5842 Před 2 měsíci +49

    For years I've always heard that PJ yelled out you can't cut the mustard towards Spree and that's when Spree got triggered and went off on him, after all these years I finally get to hear what really went down SMH LOL

    • @JoaquinTazabi
      @JoaquinTazabi Před 2 měsíci

      Close, it was "put some mustard on it", which was White people talk for "throw it harder (the pass). Media is full of shit, but I already knew that.

  • @keithr.hammonds6653
    @keithr.hammonds6653 Před 2 měsíci +30

    Great to hear the details finally, but we knew the deal when it happened. Even Rod Strickland, who played under PJ previously made the comment, “…and y’all thought it was just me.”

  • @jamiethorpe5431
    @jamiethorpe5431 Před 2 měsíci +4

    This is one example for why players have taken control of their destiny through player movement.

  • @DASwitcha
    @DASwitcha Před 2 měsíci +3

    Man you gotta love today's platforms where you can hear classic stories like this

  • @johnjung8394
    @johnjung8394 Před 2 měsíci +93

    As a long time Knicks fan Spree helped us get to the finals off the bench! Even though we didnt win he played hard for us! I still have my knicks spree jersey!!

    • @junebugboy5074
      @junebugboy5074 Před 2 měsíci +4

      what year? Sprewell was almost always a starter

    • @006ahenry
      @006ahenry Před 2 měsíci +2

      Lifelong Knicks fan here, I own 2 Knicks jerseys. A Blue Sprewell & a white Oakley jersey. If I could only find an affordable John Starks Jersey

    • @johnjung8394
      @johnjung8394 Před 2 měsíci

      @@junebugboy5074 99

    • @derrick031072
      @derrick031072 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Bench? Wasn’t he a starter?

    • @tro8191
      @tro8191 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Good stuff! I still sport my Spree Warriors jersey!

  • @JKG_Brandon
    @JKG_Brandon Před 2 měsíci +53

    Warriors Sprewell was on track for greatness man. Dude was my favorite player in the league back then. I have legit hate in my heart for PJ to this day. This just reaffirms all that.

    • @georgekouts
      @georgekouts Před 2 měsíci

      Not too bright, are ya? I'm guessing you're not white either! lmao

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam Před 2 měsíci +3

      He was still great on the Knicks, and this incident actually helped his legacy because now there are young fans who weren't even alive in '97 who know about him. If he had never choked out P.J. Carlesimo, he'd be as memorable as Mitch Richmond.

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Gratitude for sharing
    I had the Sprewell Converse Acropolis.
    Fam was nice on the court. He was the franchise.

  • @SuperStewie83
    @SuperStewie83 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank you for this story. I was the biggest Spreewell fan back in his GS years and when this happened I felt kinda embarrassed to say I was a fan, but I still hung in there for him as a fan all throughout his career. This makes sense as to why he did what he did, and I don’t blame him for standing up for himself against an a-hole of a coach.

  • @DJRhude
    @DJRhude Před 2 měsíci +84

    This is legit the first time I'm hearing this story from a player who was actually there. For years we only got the version the Warriors organization put out that painted Sprewell as a thug but I always knew better. I never rocked with Carlesimo, he didn't know how to talk to grown men without being disrespecful. I was so happy when the Knicks got Sprewell, he was a dawg.

    • @keymusabe7207
      @keymusabe7207 Před 2 měsíci +1

      He “⚫️” that’s why

    • @catastrophecookies6066
      @catastrophecookies6066 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I actually always thought Sprewell was a headcase(I was a kid when this happened)- crazy what a narrative can do 😅

    • @KClouisville
      @KClouisville Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@catastrophecookies6066 He was a headcase....read up on this actual incident. Shaw oddly leaves out the fact that after the initial choking, Sprewell went to the showers and then went and found PJ and came out of nowhere attacking him again. He'd also been in notable fights with teammates before this incident, including one with Jerome Kersey where after the fight he came back with a two-by-four like he was Hacksaw Jim Duggan or something. Dude has had multiple legal issues since his playing days as well.

    • @jacobliston7339
      @jacobliston7339 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@catastrophecookies6066 My brother in Christ, he choked his coach. He *is* a headcase.

    • @superflick100
      @superflick100 Před 2 měsíci

      No surprises that the white establishment would side with the coach and paint Sprewell as the villain.

  • @DV-ou1yu
    @DV-ou1yu Před 2 měsíci +48

    Brian Shaw...didn't expect I would sit back and just listen to him. Good speaker.

    • @taharqa332
      @taharqa332 Před 2 měsíci

      You're definitely a white guy. I've heard this so many times from your kind about black men.

    • @DubbyDubois
      @DubbyDubois Před 21 dnem +1

      Y not? He's been around forever

    • @DV-ou1yu
      @DV-ou1yu Před 20 dny

      @@DubbyDubois Doesn't mean he would be intereesting to listen too lol

  • @LegacyBridge
    @LegacyBridge Před 2 měsíci +7

    I didn't realize that trades and a cut happened behind that. They gave the warning to the younger guys though. They knew it was comin'.

  • @yusufhasan302
    @yusufhasan302 Před 2 měsíci +2

    We finally get the other side of the story! Thank You!

  • @Slap1008
    @Slap1008 Před 2 měsíci +118

    We knew it! I say we cause anybody that really hoops ain’t gone choke they coach unless he was being disrespectful and overbearing

  • @tellall23
    @tellall23 Před 2 měsíci +25

    I cant believe it took me all this time to finally hear the full breakdown of the story! Thanks Brian!

  • @andrewpapastefan8258
    @andrewpapastefan8258 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks Brian, always figured there was more to this story then we heard

  • @thescmoney
    @thescmoney Před 23 hodinami

    Great interview

  • @Jon-lp6qu
    @Jon-lp6qu Před 2 měsíci +39

    Dude well spoken know how to tell a story dawg. No bullshit.

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 Před 2 měsíci +285

    It's pretty obvious PJ was provoking Sprewell and the Anger switch got triggered

    • @mranderson8725
      @mranderson8725 Před 2 měsíci +13

      Doesn’t matter as black men we need to learn to control our anger

    • @Salhd10
      @Salhd10 Před 2 měsíci +14

      Provoking ?? Mf he’s the head coach , gee trynna have the team give more effort , they were losing.

    • @flodging
      @flodging Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@mranderson8725 “as black” 😑

    • @allidoiswin9891
      @allidoiswin9891 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@flodgingright tf lol we ain't the only ones losing our cool, white boys shooting up schools every week. Stop generalizing

    • @jessicagalvan3358
      @jessicagalvan3358 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@Salhd10they wasn’t losing cause spreewell they was losing cause they was trash..u see Steve Kerr yelling at klay and Wiggins and them? U see pop yelling at his team? U seen Phil yelling at Kobe? Or even pau? Or arrest? U seen smiths yelling at arrest and Jackson? Nah mf atfu

  • @mike2565
    @mike2565 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I was a freshman at Seton Hall in 1984 PJ’s 1st year as coach. Two memories stand out that told me PJ had it coming to him in the Sprewell attack. First, sophomore year my friends and I were playing half court 3 on 3 in Walsh gym the afternoon before an important Big East home game. Tech from ESPN wanted to install mic on the rim so we stopped playing. The guy was so nice he did not want to interrupt our game. Little did he know we were in Walsh because the school tore down our bubble facility for construction of a new and modern rec center. To accommodate current students during the 2 year construction, the school scheduled open gym and intramural games in Walsh. I remember 11pm tipoffs for some of those intramural games. 🙄 Meanwhile, the school raised tuition and board to help pay for construction. But, I digress. 😅 Anyway, the ESPN tech insisted we continue our game. We shrugged and continued to play, though very carefully, around him as he stood on a ladder setting up the rim mic.
    That’s when PJ came out of his office mid-court. When he saw us playing around the tech he immediately started screaming at us to stop and get the hell out of there. The tech spoke up and assured PJ that he insisted we keep playing. PJ just said, “Oh” then walked back into his office. No apology. No big deal but his behavior to immediately fly off the handle screaming at a group of students playing so carefully around that tech, realizing he was wrong then not thinking to apologize made a lasting impression on me…what an asshole.
    Second, we had graduated college and buddy and I traveled to Miami during winter for some warm, sunny winter weather and to watch Terry Dehere and PJ’s Seton Hall Pirates take on U of Miami in an away league game. Pirates were down single digit at half. Dehere, the team’s best player, was walking w/his teammates toward the locker room. PJ ran after him. When Dehere turned around PJ grabbed a fist full of Dehere’s jersey, pulled him in really close in his face and chewed Dehere’s ass out. We were sitting on the other side of the arena unable to hear what PJ was screaming at his star player but the spectacle was nothing but ugly, especially considering PJ was behaving like this w/a student athlete.
    However ugly PJ’s behavior, it worked. Pirates smacked the home team Miami in 2nd half to win another league game. Still, PJ’s behavior was certainly questionable despite the success. When I heard about the incident w/Latrell Sprewell I had an inkling PJ had it coming. That kind of behavior toward grown men gets a different response than from college kids. PJ had to learn the hard way and someone had to stand up. Though, Sprewell grabbing PJ by the throat (Once I witnessed paralegal grab an associate attorney by the throat in the workplace. Ed simply pushed Charlie too far. All was quickly forgotten and the team went to dinner together that night.) seemed a tad excessive. 🙃

  • @spooky-mulder
    @spooky-mulder Před 2 měsíci +9

    Thank you for sharing this. Big time story. For decades I never believed the narrative and now P and B (and KG in the Darius Miles podcast) confirmed the script the NBA spewed about Sprewell was/is a total distortion. Even the "feed my family" remark--dude averaged 20ppg, most threes by any player in the 2004 playoffs, TWolves finally made it out of the first round, KG was stoked. You should get paid for successful performance considering that team's postseason history. Instead, Taylor offered half of what Spree was making for three years. Then you see non all star guys like Chandler Parsons (never averaged 17ppg, no defense) get max dollars while the media skewers Sprewell. What's wrong with this picture. #FreeSpree

    • @scottgibson6022
      @scottgibson6022 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Sprewell tried to hold up the Timberwolves after a single season. A pure merecenary move. His greed helped to ruin what might have been. Commenters on these stories endorse a complete "me-first" mentality that can end teams. Both Sprewell and Cassell ended the Wolves' chances due to their selfishness.

    • @spooky-mulder
      @spooky-mulder Před 2 měsíci +4

      False. Thoroughly greedy billionaire and crooked politician glen taylor viewed players as nothing more than commodities and didn't reward SUCCESS. MN had never been out of thr 1st round in 7 tries prior to Spree and Sam's arrival. Management's plantation mentality, voracious greed and ungratefulness, knowing zilch about team chemistry, did MN in and they reverted to where they were before bringing those two in.

  • @briansprewell5844
    @briansprewell5844 Před 2 měsíci +114

    Cuz stood on business 😂😂😂

    • @getmoneychill6462
      @getmoneychill6462 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Nah that was pretty stupid.Spree lost millions because he couldn’t control his emotions

    • @briansprewell5844
      @briansprewell5844 Před 2 měsíci

      @@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect.

    • @briansprewell5844
      @briansprewell5844 Před 2 měsíci

      @@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect

    • @reiserkeiser
      @reiserkeiser Před 2 měsíci +3

      Cuz acted the part.

    • @hilltop565
      @hilltop565 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@getmoneychill6462fvk you! You want people like us to just shut up even if we are disrespected. Go off yourself

  • @byrondhouston
    @byrondhouston Před 2 měsíci +29

    I remember when Sprewell and I got into it in practice at Golden State! He was a great guy and fierce competitor.

  • @unxpctd79molowe23
    @unxpctd79molowe23 Před 2 měsíci

    THANK you!

  • @mickeyraps
    @mickeyraps Před 2 měsíci +3

    *He was listening to "Protect your neck"*

  • @ryanm5578
    @ryanm5578 Před 2 měsíci +59

    Thanks for posting this. I've never heard the actual story before. Nuance can add much more to even long-held opinions, lol. Thanks again.

  • @GrizzINK
    @GrizzINK Před 2 měsíci +78

    Listening 2 Wu-Tang to later play 4 NY had 2 be dope lol

  • @terrygoosedowning171
    @terrygoosedowning171 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Great story about Spree, one of my fav players from his time with Knicks

  • @2307frosty
    @2307frosty Před 2 měsíci +3

    Wow.....getting that backdrop was great....love Latrel
    PG and Hali see u n Indy next year!!

  • @Mrcool19771
    @Mrcool19771 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Interesting, a few years later , former NBA player and Bulls GM John paxson , was mad at bulls coach Vinny Del negro , came to a practice and choked the coach , the NBA kept this quiet and nothing was done to Paxson. Quite a double standard.

    • @athleticchipnyc
      @athleticchipnyc Před 2 měsíci +3

      You already know the deal with that situation compared to the Spree-PJ confrontation 🙄

    • @nyquiloxide941
      @nyquiloxide941 Před měsícem

      Yes.

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 Před měsícem

      Bulls GM Paxson choking Negro is a wild headline

  • @nanagyambibi7426
    @nanagyambibi7426 Před 2 měsíci +65

    As someone that worked in college sports…the head coach in college is damn near a God…but in the pros, you are damn near coworkers. You are leading these men but you cannot disrespect them.

    • @bjnt92281
      @bjnt92281 Před 2 měsíci +13

      Even Pop who’s know to be a hard nosed, no nonsense coach understands this.

    • @NotEnuff8
      @NotEnuff8 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@bjnt92281cuz he respects hard work and discipline. He see nothing outside the lines of work ethic. I tend to respect those who keep business business and we don't know much about them personally

    • @davejeffar6271
      @davejeffar6271 Před 2 měsíci

      As a starter small-forward, but he was undersized (6'4).
      Alan Houston played shooting-guard, but switched with Spree on defense.

  • @VillainArch22
    @VillainArch22 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Story went exactly how I thought it would. 🤣

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Choking PJ made Spree my favorite player in the league

  • @Des_Zee
    @Des_Zee Před 2 měsíci +22

    Remember that was still David Sterns NBA. It was his way or the highway

    • @chicaliqc
      @chicaliqc Před 2 měsíci +1

      As the refs and owners were running wild!

    • @jackjohnsonjohnson8610
      @jackjohnsonjohnson8610 Před 2 měsíci

      Yep allowing refs to turn first class seats in for a refund then flying coach,fixing games,targeting players,and disallowing legitimate trades so others could prosper

    • @anthonyjones634
      @anthonyjones634 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yep. The league was definitely different back then. Players were damn near treated like slaves for real. Gag orders, blacked balled, cut, and traded for standing together and speaking out.

    • @pdigi3179
      @pdigi3179 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@anthonyjones634 and now the NBA is a complete trash product and damn near unwatchable. There absolutely has to be order and hierarchy.

  • @marquesedeshields4045
    @marquesedeshields4045 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Sprewell with Wu Tang in his headphones is a crazy combo

  • @DanielEscamillaPueblo
    @DanielEscamillaPueblo Před 2 měsíci

    This was about a year or two before I became a Warriors fan, I was 7 at the time but I always heard about this and it is nice to finally get the full breakdown.

  • @LaPelotaenlaCabeza
    @LaPelotaenlaCabeza Před 2 měsíci +2

    As a longtime Warriors fan, I remember this being the very dark days where it seemed like everything would go wrong. A few years before this incident they had Hardaway, Sprewell, Mullin and Webber, NBA contenders and it all fell apart within a few weeks with Webber getting traded and everybody else getting injured.
    I had read about this incident so I figured there had to be some sort of build up before a player does that to a coach. While it's wrong, a coach has to earn the respect of the team and apparently that wasn't the case here.

  • @nessdagoat
    @nessdagoat Před 2 měsíci +110

    B Shaw is the guy! Knew him since I was a kid. He used to be real cool with Reggie Lewis back in the day

  • @brkjeff
    @brkjeff Před 2 měsíci +43

    *Spree & Allan Houston🔥🧊*
    *Fire & Ice*

  • @johnbolton2149
    @johnbolton2149 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Never did you hear anyone in media ponder what PJ had done or said to provoke this.

  • @da11king
    @da11king Před 2 měsíci +2

    As an adolescent back in 1997, I always wanted to know what went down. The only image I had in my mind was Sprewell as the villain and PJ as the victim. Great story 😊

  • @bernyourhart
    @bernyourhart Před 2 měsíci +12

    Seeing Joe Smith at the airport “you got traded too?”
    😂 “Nah they cut me” 💀

    • @jaycurry5593
      @jaycurry5593 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Dickey Simpkins got cut...not Joe Smith, tf you talkin bout?

    • @terencejones4057
      @terencejones4057 Před 2 měsíci +6

      You clearly didn't listen well enough because that ain't even what b-shaw said fam

    • @spencerwhitsett9350
      @spencerwhitsett9350 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@jaycurry5593😂😂

  • @christiantrujillo4923
    @christiantrujillo4923 Před 2 měsíci +102

    Brian Shaw is real af

    • @hoosier3060
      @hoosier3060 Před 2 měsíci +2

      We loved him when he was assistant with the Pacers. It was nice to see him and Paul interact outside of that.

  • @athleticchipnyc
    @athleticchipnyc Před 2 měsíci +7

    Thank you PJ. As a Knick fan, we loved having him here with us ✊🏿

  • @CooreValues
    @CooreValues Před 2 měsíci

    Wow great take on this

  • @gilfordmccormack8140
    @gilfordmccormack8140 Před 2 měsíci +125

    PJ should've left well enough alone 😂 😂😂😂.

    • @ufukpolat3480
      @ufukpolat3480 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Golden State wasn't well enough. Sprewell was an inefficient shot chucker.

    • @2H2521
      @2H2521 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ⁠@@ufukpolat3480Carmelo Anthony & Russell Westbrick are the true definition of inefficient.

    • @kinghov3695
      @kinghov3695 Před 2 měsíci

      @@2H2521😂

    • @taharqa332
      @taharqa332 Před 2 měsíci

      He knew he had "WHITE" on his side.

    • @vicshephard9231
      @vicshephard9231 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I think PJ knows better now.

  • @CreamyItalian
    @CreamyItalian Před 2 měsíci +41

    Can't keep poking the bear. From the beginning, it always sounded like the whole picture wasn't being shown to the public.

  • @KingAmaniImani
    @KingAmaniImani Před 2 měsíci

    What's crazy is the same day I was in college and was about to get at my college coach. Words were exchanged, suspension handed out, but with the support of my team, the college community and my accountability plus an apology to my team and the coach we were able to reconcile.

  • @BigDukes4U
    @BigDukes4U Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @markextv
    @markextv Před 2 měsíci +163

    So pretty much PJ provoked Latrell? Got it!

    • @user-tt1hx2nm4p
      @user-tt1hx2nm4p Před 2 měsíci +9

      Whatever you thugs wanna believe

    • @bjensen
      @bjensen Před 2 měsíci +27

      ​​@@user-tt1hx2nm4p PJ absolutely provoked Sprewell. Sprewell shouldn't have choked him but being the head coach doesn't mean you can be an asshole with impunity.
      Do you just simp for the coach each time? Do you think Bobby Knight (Lucifer rest his soul🙏) was a thug for choking his players, and then lying about? Or was that different somehow?

    • @JoaquinTazabi
      @JoaquinTazabi Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@bjensenYou shut that anonymous racist right up

    • @trell_money7789
      @trell_money7789 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@user-tt1hx2nm4p I guess tht means P.J. goofy a$$ a thug too for provoking Sprewell u 🤡

    • @shaheemtaylor960
      @shaheemtaylor960 Před 2 měsíci

      @@user-tt1hx2nm4p You have to be a troll

  • @JoePesciVSBillyBatts
    @JoePesciVSBillyBatts Před 2 měsíci +22

    99 Spreewell Knicks is the first team I ever rooted for. Great player for 2-3 years.

    • @je9212
      @je9212 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You do know sprewell was a 3× time All Star with Golden State warriors before the Knicks he was Arguably the 2 best SG in the Entire NBA from 93-97💥

  • @asylum1166
    @asylum1166 Před 2 měsíci +2

    At the time it’s interesting they didn’t tell this side but shoutout to Shaw for clearing it up

  • @enricorios2822
    @enricorios2822 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I remember this like it was yesterday. They made Sprewell look like the ultimate villain. We only heard one side of the story back then. I’m glad we finally get the whole story.

  • @bigpoppa6658
    @bigpoppa6658 Před 2 měsíci +22

    Them 90s OGs built different. Not scared of anything, that's how to played and approached the game. Reason why they played more defense and not scared of the physicality

  • @TommyDJr45
    @TommyDJr45 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I ALWAYS wanted to know more about this!

  • @BacktothaBaysiccs510
    @BacktothaBaysiccs510 Před 2 měsíci

    I was 11 years old on 38th n foothill east oakland n remeberd this..im 37 now n its the first time hearing from a teamate about it.

  • @tro8191
    @tro8191 Před 2 měsíci

    B. Shaw tellin the truth! Thank you for breakin it down for us my fellow Dragon! BOD class of ‘86!

  • @rodneysam3574
    @rodneysam3574 Před 2 měsíci +14

    I knew there had to be something more behind this incident. I remember it well.

    • @ryandavis6245
      @ryandavis6245 Před 2 měsíci

      You obviously don't remember it well if you never knew what PJ did.

  • @vanessagrayman2194
    @vanessagrayman2194 Před 2 měsíci +71

    Sounds like a good ole boys club back then…

  • @flamejanes1865
    @flamejanes1865 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Wow in '97 I was 24 yo & remember this incident like it was yesterday but never ever heard any details like this 😲

  • @aquill1
    @aquill1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's interesting how a story can sound so convincing if other history and behavior is missed or not talked about.
    Shaw is a great story teller, but his story misses the fact that Spree came outta the locker room and punched his coach in the face, well after he choked him. He had anger issues prior to this incident. This incident and the actions that took place likely saved Latrell's career. Shaw wouldn't know about this because these issues occurred before he was on the team.
    Love to have a session that goes through each of the Lakers big seasons. I bet he has hundreds of interesting things to add.

  • @marby.
    @marby. Před 2 měsíci +38

    That went beyond coaching and spilled into challenging one's manhood. Was it wrong to attack him physically? Yes, but PJ provoked the situation all the way

    • @johnnguyen6469
      @johnnguyen6469 Před 2 měsíci +3

      A person who is that easily provoked has no place in a civil society

    • @johnnguyen6469
      @johnnguyen6469 Před 2 měsíci +3

      What exactly did he say, did he talk about his mother even? Give me a break. He was coaching him hard that is all

    • @shaheemtaylor960
      @shaheemtaylor960 Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@johnnguyen6469coaching hard is different from cursing the dude out disrespecting him. Huge difference between the two

    • @joemama-nq9ve
      @joemama-nq9ve Před 2 měsíci

      tell me why carlesimo went after sprewell the most, why not everybody else?@@johnnguyen6469

    • @jaycurry5593
      @jaycurry5593 Před 2 měsíci +19

      ​@johnnguyen6469 a person who tries to provoke another doesn't belong in a civilized society. Wanna play victim...smfh

  • @walterwlim
    @walterwlim Před 2 měsíci +12

    6:07 Felton Spencer: RIP

  • @dwitt4574
    @dwitt4574 Před 2 měsíci

    Great breakdown.

  • @user-zm9ce9tl3d
    @user-zm9ce9tl3d Před 2 měsíci

    Legendary this story, I remember this as a kid. It was crazy.

  • @Barncore
    @Barncore Před 2 měsíci +5

    Great story tellin

  • @8mathdaddy
    @8mathdaddy Před 2 měsíci +6

    Shaw is a really good storyteller. 👍

  • @Ddrews-nf4gq
    @Ddrews-nf4gq Před 2 měsíci +1

    I always knew there was something said prior to the choking incident. Thanks for providing the other side of the story. Spre was one of my favorite players seemed like an intelligent guy. I knew he wasn't the type to just snap and choke out his coach! It's amazing how things get twisted in the media to suit the offenders. Never heard PJ say anything regarding his involvement in this.

  • @ronaldwilliams9635
    @ronaldwilliams9635 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is so dope to hear, the funny thing is I asked myself the other day out the blue, WHAT LEAD TO SPREE CHOKING CARLISEMO 💀👀

  • @solonfroilan897
    @solonfroilan897 Před 2 měsíci +4

    After all these years.. I was always curious to both sides of the story

  • @ThanosIsWatching
    @ThanosIsWatching Před 2 měsíci +18

    I’m glad you told this story man Latrell Sprewell was one of my favorite players man. I’m 30 and it didn’t hit me when i was younger but to me it’s like he just disappeared! Smh

    • @HoopsFYI
      @HoopsFYI Před 2 měsíci +5

      Spree took the Knicks to the Finals and took Minnesota to the WC Finals after that. His career ended after he demanded too much money in Free Agency.

  • @ShowtimeDr
    @ShowtimeDr Před 2 dny +1

    I remember years later they asked P.J "Why did Sprewell choke you out?" "I have no idea." Dude lies so hard lol.

  • @angieiluvme
    @angieiluvme Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember playing against Felton Spencer in high school dude was huge RIP Felton