Stephen A. Smith vs. Max Kellerman On Kevin Durant's Warriors Move!
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2016
- Kevin Durant Signs with Golden State Warriors 7-25-16
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Lol “D Rose and their super team” 😂🤣
LMAO I was rolling when he said that
Natejdub 😂😂😂
Natejdub lmao they ain’t even make the playoffs💀 but you can’t lie d rose melo and porzingis sounded like a good ass team😭
@@teejaytv3821 it did sound like a big 3
young KP top 5 scorer melo explosive rose - howverRose is back
They would’ve been a top 4 seed in the East if they didn’t run that dumbass triangle offense
June 2019 now. can't believe it's Was Max's first show.
Was thinking the same thing...
WISH IT COULDA BEEN HIS LAST SHOW!!! HE STR8SUX.
BOOOOOOOOOOO!!
???HE BEEN ON FOR 2 YEARS, THAT'S WHEN JOHNNY SKIPPED TO UNDISPUTED.
Same here!!!!!
3 Star Pro march , 30 , 2020 now 😪. Seems as If I just started watching first take last year
Max did his thing. I can tell SAS was impressed on the low
InFaMOus187NYC 😂😂😂😂 facts
Max is stupid but I respect that he sticks to his opinion
Will Seest it’s all scripted of course. If both of them agree then ratings will be low
Molly used to be quiet? Get outta town
Seth Robinson 😭😭😭
Lol her ego has blown up since then she gotta be the show now
Still prefer her over Miss Champion
😂 Lol yeah those were the old days
True
Let’s be real, max is just saying this so that the two people have opposing arguments, cuz if they’d be agreeing, the ratings would suck
Rose thought the knicks were a superteam🤣
Perry Platypus lmao it’s like Pat Beverly saying that the Clippers are a super team today 😂😂
Gunna llllol
Yikes
Gunna shit they push Golden State in the first round to game six and came back from a 31 point deficit sure they lost but they put pressure on them with a healthy KD
@@gunna1699 well they might as well be lol
When Max said “ let’s get it on” I felt very uncomfortable and think he should be suspended by ESPN for awhile. I hope Molly is okay after this traumatic experience
😂😂😂😂
Seahawksforlife WhydoIhavetoputalastnameonthis lmaooooo
Lavar ball huh lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😭
Anyone peep Max's " The Wire" reference?? "If you come at the king, you best not miss." -Omar
Melvin Desouza I noticed that as well. max is a big hip-hop guy too.
That reference does not originate from that show, that is a saying that was being said long before the wire was around. The wire just used that quote but did not invent it.
Only Jesus is King!! Sorry to break your heart
I was looking for this as soon as he said it
LMFAOOO HELLYEAH!
The real move was Max Kellerman signing for First Take. Oh what a great move!
keller man "you Dont miss Much'" But you Missed this one" Lol WHAT ! his face so Funny
Here since Max left the show in 2021. I miss when they were this fun to watch.
People will always remember the weakest move ever in the NBA. ALWAYS!
just butt hurt bronsexuals
@@spankstar just everybody except bandwagon curry dickriders. everyone thought KD was a cupcake for that move.
BRONSEXUALS FANS SAY KYRIE IS BETTER THAN CURRY AND LEBRON ITS BETTER THAN KD WHY you'll crying
@@kaizenking8841 you stupid asf if you think kd better than bron lmao
@@kaizenking8841 get a life
Kevin Durant going to the Warriors is the equivalent to Bron going to Boston after ‘10, Jordan going to the Pistons after ‘90 or Kobe going to the Jazz after ‘98.
BiegeManta93 facts
Bruh Kobe was a rookie after ‘98 that ain’t no equivalent
@@tdms3907 People just want to say dumb shit cause they envy KD
You meant Shaq not Kobe
Dumb analogy. But carry on
Kevin Durant’s titles and Finals MVPs should have an asterisk on his Wikipedia page
@kevin buggage nah yall bitter ppl dont but real basketball heads kno kd balled out
@kevin buggage do you even hear yourself right now my dude???? Smfh his rings hold just as much as lebrons..... did you have this some energy when lebron formed a superteam in miami??? Were u complaining about seeing "competition" then???? Dude busted lebron ass for back to back titles and u tryna say that dont mean anything lol.... get that bitterness out your heart
LMAO you big mad huh? As someone who loves the NBA but doesn’t have a favourite team (I ain’t American or Canadian) I laugh every time I see people crying about KD. He’s a great player and he wanted to win so he went to the Warriors and guess what? HE WON DEM CHIPS. KD the goat. Stay salty kids
@@user-nx9eq2wq7t KD the GOAT? stop
Juan Hernandez umad
These videos are such great time capsules for sports 😭
In 6 days it will have been 6 years to the day since KD signed with GS. And to this day I can say this was indeed the weakest move in the history of American team sports. KD ruined the NBA for 2 years. It's basically the same thing as if Larry Bird joined Magic and the Lakers to beat MJ.
Magic was always on stacked teams in the 1980s, and for a good amount of that decade the Western Conference was incredibly weak, including a 39-win Sonics team that LA faced in the 1987 Western Conference Finals. A sadly typical record for a Western Conference playoff opponent in those years.
Point is, Magic was essentially on a superteam for the majority of his career, while also playing against an overall weak Western Conference for many years.
People prefer to forget that.
@@anen9332 Magic got drafted there he didnt leave a challenging team to go there because he couldnt beat them also regardless of how stacked the teams were Magic was the leader.
no it aint,Larry had no problem beating MJ only reason he wouldve left to do that is if he was bored in Boston,its more like MJ leaving the bulls to join the Celtics so he could beat the Lakers
@@shesbaldbutiwould Magic didn't have to leave because he was, as you admit, put in a situation where he had a stacked roster for basically an entire decade while playing in a weak Conference.
Why would anyone leave that? Especially when the stacked rosters were on a team located in one of the biggest media markets-- unlike, say, Oklahoma City -- in the world?
Furthermore, as point of fact, Magic was "drafted" by the Lakers because the NBA forced small market Utah to give up his draft rights. Rather telling as to the favoritism shown to both Magic and LA.
But thanks for conceding my point in your reply. It's appreciated.
And hilarious.
Shalom.
@@anen9332 no you pompous tool my point is magic just happened to be traded to a stacked team he didn't leave a team who were close to championships to join a team he couldn't get pass maybe if u were actually intelligent instead of thinking u are u woulda comprehended
2016 Max: “he would’ve reverse engineered his career if GS won the championship”
2019 max: “he reverse engineered his career by joining a 73 win team”
Bro Kellerman is schizophrenic with his takes. It's disturbing.
@@TruthDissident schizophrenic is when you see things that aren’t there not prophetic as you’re confusing it with
But both statements are true bro he joined a 73 win team and they had already won a championship way before that stay down clown 🤡
@@kentonohio7614 he literally said it wasn’t reverse engineering because the Warriors lost the championship. But then 3 years later said it is reverse engineering
@@Slatsurfer yeah my fault I misunderstood and watched the whole video after I left comment you got back quick lmao 😂
if lebron had joined the Warriors he would be thrown under the bus..just think about that for a sec.
Herro Stfu what??? People got mad that he left Cleveland the first time even tho he the next best player was mo Williams lol. He would of crucified for joining the warriors. Kd is a soft and just wanted to win that why he joined GS he wasn’t up for the challenge.
Kellz in 2014-15 warriors weren’t considered a top team at the beginning of the year
If LeBron joined Golden State instead of Cleveland in 2014 that would have been a dynasty and LeBron would have 7 rings by now.
@@UFspeed true, that would be the nba's worst nightmare😂
@@kellz1703 sure people got mad but what happened when he joined miami with wade and bosh? Literally the media crowned him the GOAT that rivaled MJ and ge even won multiple mvps KD couldn't win mvp because he had Curry and Klay but LeBron can win mvps with Wade and bosh? Get the hell outahere
what if lebron joined the warriors they would crucifie lebron
Can't even spell.
He cant spell, funny!!
Crucify slowness
No he would be winning games and there would be even more warriors fan and draymond would be number 20 to
Please learn to spell
Anyone back here after the game 5 injury in the finals :(
Me
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Back to see stephen a contradict his self again fr
SAS believes if he raises his voice, it improves his argument haha
I think it’s obvious max is only arguing because there has to be a debate on the show lol
Really? I thought he had the better points
Kevin Durant is spineless. A great athlete is one who, after defeat, goes back and tries to triumph over the team that defeated them. It isn't like Durant pulled off a Karl Malone. He's 28. He still has maybe 5-10 good years in him left. He's still great, but spineless.
I would say every word of that to his face if I ever saw him, I have no respect for him
Oh YEA? So what's that make lebron for leaving for miami?.
did miami win cavs last season? did miami win champion last season ? so what are you talking about ? This cupcake just join a team that could win champion without him, so we called him dusoft.
So how do you feel now that KD is the MVP and reigning champ with the Warriors
Trevor George sry, my grandma can also win a champion with this team without dusoft, although she can’t steal mvp from curry ^_^
This was Max’s first show and now he’s fired 😭
@@jean-elieparaison5003 I lost all respect for him smh
perfect I like the dynamic of these two in ways their personalities match so to see how they differ in debate is intriguing...ESPN won with this
Max killed it with his argument. That definitely got under SAS skin. LOL
Yee , from day 1 Max was on
"You damn well better win now"
love the way he said that
And he did win.
Kevin Durant is the epitome of if you can't beat em join em. LeBron started the superteam era but at least he didn't join the Celtics, he joined a team that would beat the Celtics
Here we are 5 years later and people only remember KD going to the team that beat him and leeching onto a championship team to get a ring.
6 years and people still think this smh
@@tommyverdun242 cause that’s what happened
@@tommyverdun242 2 weeks after your comment and Steph has already won his 4th chip and his first FMVP and people are now talking about Durants legacy .... If he can win without Steph Curry? 😌😌
@@sumedhtayade4708 Thank you 🤣🤣
@@sumedhtayade4708 here 6 months after that and KD got swept by the Celtics after JT and crew mugged him and the nets and took his respect 😂😂😂😂
2019 anyone??
2019 and still sour of that gay ass move! haha
June 2019 up in this bitch
Daniel Velazquez July bruh 😂😂
Yup!!!!
2020
SAS is the skip Bayless now lol
unknown redflag he is to KD what skip is to LeBron
Charles Hamilton no he is to LeBron now as skip is to LeBron
@@ATLKing404 he loves kd idk what youre talking about
@@Mickeydicky well he loves him cuz kd's mom basically came on the show and got stephen a to stop talkin shit
This was a debate! I wish they came out the gate with this energy today!
Crazy hearing Rusell Westbrook being mentioned as a top 5 player in the world just less than 3 years ago...
He not even top 10 anymore really.
Yeah Russ is top 10 now BARELY I mean LeBron, AD, Kawhi, PG, Kyrie, James Harden, Joel Embiid, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and then you can put Russ Kemba or Dame Dolla.. (didn't mention KD or the 🦄 because of Injury)
He’s like #11 now so not a big difference
Top Kek 11 is generous. He's not better than kd or porzingis
@@RenfromBespin he's better than klay thompson lol klay's a system player. A great one, but a 3rd option role player.
Almost 7 years ago. Time flies…
Patrick Ewing never dreamed of the Chicago Bulls
Ahhh 2016... greatness
I think Stephen a smith is right
Players today are different than 20-30 years ago. Michael Jordan didn't leave Chicago to go to Detroit. He got better and beat their a**!
kobe never joined Boston
Absolutely right. He had the game changed so the pistons couldn't play defense on him
Josh Smith I believe the bulls swept the pistons in the eastern conference finals in 91. Just saying..
@Laxatives Dre exacly lebron went to miami
Jordan didn’t beat them till they got old
imagine if Lebron went back to back in the 2017 NBA FINALS... KD would be dead
Hard to imagine, really hard to imagine. The warriors steam rolled them
@@spankstar LBJ did stop them from getting a perfect 16-0 record though... that wouldve gotten everybody to finally shut up.
Still a snake. Went to a 73-9 team
Cupcake move.. Sad for his injury though, hope he will come back healthy
And what’s crazy is that they(the analysts) are CLEARLY ON RECORD saying how weak this move was, and as we sit here today, they try to say he’s the best in the league. Crazy
@@MacManCurtis what more crazy is that they say he take the easiest way to a title but no one is complaining about a LeBron James team up with AD and kawhi ....
@@tigasonca3641 Or Lebron Wade and Bosh with like 15 former allstars as role players like Ray Allen ect...everyone hating on KD is a super hypocrite
@JACQUEZ JOHNSON Yeah you're right, it was his choice to make a huge bitch move
2019 and KD is 2/2 in the finals w/ 2 finals MVPs since joining GSW. It’s time for him to move on after this year.
2-1 dont forget he lost in 2012 to miami
MrMaticko She said since joining GSW smart guy
@@tominator028 woah didn't see that, even smarter guy... but fax is he 2-1 , 3-1 after this finals
@@tominator028 well she's a guy so....
Welp....goes to show nothing is for sure.
Steven A is pissed, Max is cool with it first reaction. 3 years later... Steven A is a warriors fan, Max not impressed by KD winning with warriors. WTF!? Flip flopping! Keep it consistent!
🤷🏿♂️ crazy. Someone needs to show them this lost footage. Weak ass move. Smh
beginning of a legendary duo.
They gone remember that KD decision 50 years from now lol
First time I saw this segment. Max’s first segment was a damn good one, SAS seemed impressed even though they had different opinions on this topic.
SAS has the point. My opinion is Durant just wanted to have an NBA ring the easy way.
Just like lebron. Dude been forming superteams his entire career to win rings "the easy way"
@@nottheone831 joining a 47-35 team that lost in the 1st rd against Boston in five games is not the same thing as KD SINGLE HANDILY RUINING THE NBA BY JOINING A 73-9 TEAM THAT HE HELP BLOW A 3-1 LEAD TO IN THE WCF!
@@michaelkirschner6009 if Klay, dray and curry and Durant all went to the Knicks, that would be better? Stop the bull.
Lebron is way worse than K.D. his entire career his been searching and forming super teams and bouncing around the league. The greatest player can't put a team on his back.
He has to search for other super stars and he still has a losing finals record!
@@nottheone831what are you talking about?
@@nottheone831Wasn’t KD on the 2021 nets that if they were healthy would win the championship? He is on the suns right now with Beal and Booker. KD had harden and kyrie on the nets, has the suns now and before had the warriors. The 2022 ring the warriors got shoes they didn’t need KD even more since they already had a ring in 2015. Also saying LeBron can’t put a team on his back is hilarious considering he has 2 of the biggest cases of a player carrying a team in NBA history with the 2007 Cavs and the 2018 cavs. It was just LeBron and if he didn’t go for 30 they will lose. The cavs without LeBron until now were one of the worst teams in the east.
2021 gang where you at
Max kellerman has got to be trolling
Max is absolutely accurate, had we went 73-9 and won the title, there would have been hell to pay for us across the nation
No it's still lame whether they won or not
hell no. this man joined a 73-9 win team that was DOMINATING the league not just in numbers, record, or their ring the prior year, but literally their playstyle and the fact that they have two of the greatest shooters we've ever seen in PLANET EARTH, making that team arguably the greatest team ever assembled.
he joined a team he lost against from choking a 3-1 lead.
7 years after it remains the weakest move in sports history.
KD's a great athlete, an unstoppable force but nothing changes that fact.
“Would be hell to pay” bro he still paid 😭
Didn't realize this was max first episode.
You cannot order no damn sushi at 4 in the am in the city 😂😂 y’all tripping
Can't believe it was max first show
The days when molly wasn’t annoying
7:20 face of regret😂
This made everyone call teams super teams that weren’t super teams.
Steph choked no doubt but Harrison Barnes the real reason GS lost
But Kevin Love & JR Smith we’re playing like shit to so that isn’t a good argument
What about Shumpert 😂😂😂
Curry didn’t choke he was hurt
He couldn’t even get by Kevin love in game 7 he was so beat up
Kyle Lineweaver lying ass bitch
As I'm here watching the 2017 finals...Stephen A Smith's words are echoing in my mind "Kurant Durant ruined the league".
durant is SPINELESS, never will he EVER be mentioned amongst the greats in my mind, and in minds of Anyone i know.
@@anakovacevic6755 what you say means nothing because you're a nobady
How did he ruin the league. There has always been super teams. Just cuz they loose doesnt mean it wasnt a supertramp see "lakers, see Boston, see bulls, see Miami, see Detroit etc.
Welp its 2019 how yall think about boogie
@@TeW33zy No, superteams were Born via Draft or Free Agency, The 80s celtics and Lakers were built via Draft or via free Agency but they never added to their roster another superstar, Imagine if idk Moses Malone went to the Lakers or even Worse Kareem Joined the celtics, these players would have been crucified and erased from basketball history, 2000s Lakers never added idk A dwade to their roster,2008s celtics never added dwight Howard, the heat didn't add Tony Parker
But the warriors DID
Kevin durant DID
And he ruined all the competition of the League
If you, a top 3 players in the NBA at the time, joins the second best player named Wardell Stephen Curry along with other 2 all stars you are a Living shit
And you know what's the problem?
This has created a precedent and so players from now on Will do that as well, Just take a look at Demarcus cousins!
The NBA Is now officially dead
The nuggets are not a playoff team
PG13 can't beat them
Toronto Will fall short
The only One that can beat that team Is Giannis but i'm sure they Will find a way to injure him like they did to Kawhi
KD Is obv the most hated player in the NBA
And the warriors are the pussiest them of all time
Ummm can we all admit now that Steven A was right here? I mean KD won 2 rings in GS and still felt slighted in terms of legacy and left to go to Brooklyn
Hasn’t done a damn thing since then btw
Love you guys!!
2021 anyone?
Idc what anyone says. KD is sad asf for going to golden state. Certified bum.
Anyone here after KD signs with the Nets?
Remember when Max used to defend KD 😂 Now it's the opposite LMAO 😂😂
KD made a weak move
@FAN BOi Not mad just saying real people do real things & he knows he made a weak....bitch wouldn't even show his face for days
@@a.m.b.youngbama2597 lmao facts and people are saying LeBron did the same which is false.
@@GhostiZGoDx LeBron built a championship team and KD just walked into.
A.M.B. aka_Action Boogie made a weaker one lol
A.M.B. aka_Action you mad
Anybody here after the fact he may leave?? 2019
totemroll28 I really hope he does. He ruined the nba.
totemroll28 I’m done with the warriors Klay needs to leave too I don’t wanna see the Warriors relevant until I’m a old man
@@thinkbeforeyouspeak7429 thnk u someone agrees
They "lost to Lebron James." See that's the stupid stuff I can't take about sports analyst. Kyrie Irving gets no shine in any of this. Even Kevin Love did a few good things.
Shelly Smith well when they lose he gets all of the blame even when he plays his ass off.
Are you high? They're a lottery team without Lebron
Should have been around when mike was playing
Shelly Smith stfu bruh lebron is the leader of the team. ur just a hater. give credit when it’s due. did u say “they lost to michael jordan and scottie pippen” it just mj
@@larriors9124 3-6
Lmao derrick rose and the knicks superteam lmao
I was so scared Max won't be able to stand his ground against Stephen A. or fill into the shoes of Skip.But with this particular debate.I am impressed.Welcome to ESPN First Take, Max.Looking forward to seeing u do a great job like u just did debating against Stephen A.
He's an idiot. He should stick to Boxing.
He's way better than skip
2019 anyone??!!!! First and last time Stephen A and Max shook hands!! 😂
Aravindan Balakrishner big facts
Me!!!
We gonna remember that, we still remember it, were NEVER gonna stop forgetting the weakest move by a mega superstar .
amen to that
Is it me or is molly less annoying back then
That dap was satisfying
Rip Max on First Take
Who back after the Perkins beef 😂😂
Draymond recruiting KD only for him to tell him "we never needed you" DAMN.
Now in 2023 this seems like decades ago now looking back.
It's a big difference between Lbj going to Miami, and Kevin Durant going to GSW, GSW was 73-9 and was the reason kd went home, Miami didn't beat LBJ, then he went to them
There is literally not a single difference. Lebron went to Miami to do what? Win titles. KD went to GS to do what? Win titles. Lebron left CLE why? Because he couldn’t win there. KD left OKC why? Because he couldn’t win there. Ironically Lebron won 2 titles in Miami and KD won 2 titles in GS. Everything sounds the same to me. Oh and before you say he “joined” a 73-9 team he didn’t. Him joining a 73-9 team would be them keeping the same roster that won 73 games and Kd joins on a one year deal without losing a player.
@@WhereDaHoesAt KD joined the team that beat him.
Excatly sas finally right cavs got a big assist frm.the nba
SAS just confirmed that Melo was supposed to go to Miami instead of Bosh in the interview they just had. This is nostalgia
Weakest move ever!!! Could have gone to ANY other team other than Cleveland & Golden State
He should of joined my Raptors or Houston
Or clippers or celtics
9:07 2 years later Ezekiel Elliot still in trouble, SAS is now the biggest KD fanboy, but his hairline still running
So Dramond Green recruited and fired KD..lol
LMAO Derrick Rose and the superteam 😂
Max and SAS are a joy to watch I didn't know this was Max debut on FT. From this point SAS said why the hell did I bring this guy on this show. 😂
Fast forward to today: Stephen A Smith says Kevin Durant is the best player in the world cause he won back to back championships.
Herb Young tell me about it😂
He hasn’t named KD as the best in the world yet. Stop lying
@@christianmandigo5108 Yes he has. Multiple times may I add..
2023 still the weakest move EVER will be back in 5 years to state the same
Props to Kellerman for arguing so well on his debute with such a weak stance of defending KD lol
And exactly at 7.10 start the best friendship of all time
The only time perhaps when Max Kellerman showed what genius analysis is.
7:05 😭😭💀
I can actually appreciate Max’s innocent smile after literally getting berated 😂 he dont five a fuq
Dam Stephen A and Max Kellerman have been doing first take together for five years, dam time flies
Team sports were invented to build character, promote competition, and to stay in great physical shape. It was not invented to have one or even two dominating teams in a league and the other teams have little to zero shot at winning their leagues championship. Although having fun playing a sport is a great feeling to have, it is not the reason we play the sports we play. Question: Would you have more pride in winning a championship with the best athletes in your sport on the same team and just completely dominating every team you play until it gets to the point where other teams look at you and give up before the game has already started? Or would you have more pride in working hard every single day to accomplish a goal you have had since the day you fell in love with the sport, and finally beating a team that you had tried so hard to beat in the past and finally do it? For me personally, I played basketball all my life up until midway through high school (issues with coach) and I never had that much joy in dominating teams by 25+. Yes it seems fun to blow teams out once in a while....but when we did it consistently all year, the game seemed to get a little boring. I never really got excited for games anymore bc I knew the outcome already. Sports are ALL about competition. And if you dont have that competitive spirit in you, then youre not a true athlete. Max is tryna say "Where did all these rules come from?" Well max where did our unalienable rights come from? Theyre morals of a certain culture. Competitiveness is a moral of sports. No body wants dynasties in any sport other than the fans of that particular team. Having compeitition teaches people how to work harder for the things they want most in life. It teaches you that when you lose, you get back up and try again. There are no short cuts to competition. KD made the weakest move ever by a superstar. And one more point about what max said about KD wanting to play in the perfect style of basketball which he said was only the warriors, KD coulda joined the greatest BBALL coach ever, Gregg Popovich, which has a very similar style to the warriors play, just with less shooters. He coulda joined Brad Stevens in boston with their style of play. They play fast, move the ball VERY well, and play hard every possession. I know the mavs have a horrible team, but Rick Carlise is a fantastic coach. He is definitely a top 4 coach in the NBA, and has won a championship bc of his wits of coaching. The warriors arent the only team that has an unselfish style of play. So with that said, leave some comments cuz I wanna know what yall think about this long ass post i just made.
BEetFArmer23 amen my brother u nail on the head with ur comment
Damn bro you typed all of this 😂😂😂
Word. This was a hidden gem of a comment. Defining the pure essence of sport .
9:00 zeke hasnt touched his hair in 3 years lmao
SAS: He better win
Max: He will
Me in 2023: He did 😎
I thought this was 2019 lmao
I vividly remember watching a Warrior regular season game and heard them talk about the possibility of them picking up Durant in free agency because of the cap space jumping. Durant most likely was planning on GS well before they played him in the WCF.
I love all this talk, KD did the right thing. It made HIM happy. SAS, Russell Westbrook, Lebron James, and any of the others bitching aren't paying him or walking an inch in KD's shoes. KD's happy and that's all that matters.
I love max and Stephen a at each other’s throat hahahahaha
who here when kd went to nets lol
I