Come Follow Me (Insights into Alma 17-22, June 22-28)
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Can you guys help me understand something? It seems like Abish’s name is symbolic of a vision she had later in life, and thus not her “real” name she went by starting as a child. This makes me think it was a symbolic name Mormon chose for her as he abridged the records. Is that true? If so, is that practice common in the Book of Mormon?
I wanted to take a few minutes to comment and say thank you for everything you guys are doing. The Come Follow Me commentary, the Scripture Plus App, the Virtual Scripture stuff, all the Book of Mormon Central resources, etc. I have been watching the videos and using all the various resources for a long time now, and have been meaning to reach out to say thank you and let you know how grateful I am for the sacrifices you guys are making to help me and so many others come closer to the Savior. I greatly appreciate all the time, energy, and resources you guys devote to the selfless service of sharing with others what you have learned, and more importantly helping others develop a greater desire to learn.
Your insights and knowledge have opened up the scriptures to me in so many wonderful ways. I love how you both are able to bring the scriptures to life, to liken them and apply them to our life today, and correlate the meaning and connection between so many doctrines and teachings in the gospel. One huge help has been your ability to teach me so much background about ancient times, the culture, the geography, language, etc. that has allowed a flood of understanding to come to me as I read scriptures I have read many times in the past and haven’t been able to fully understand. That knowledge and background has allowed the true teachings and doctrine of Christ to more fully show itself in those passages and brought a deeper and much more meaningful understanding of the word of God to me.
I have especially loved your emphasis on the covenant relationship we have with God. Your continued insights, explanations, and teachings of the meaning, origination, necessity and importance of the covenant path, and the covenant relationship we have with the Savior has been huge for me. I am starting to gain a knowledge and understanding of the Plan of Salvation that I have never had before, and a knowledge and understanding of what the covenant really is and means. It really is amazing how much the Lord has revealed to us, and you guys have assisted me a great deal in learning and understanding some of it.
I hope you continue to do what you are doing and as I said I really am grateful and appreciate that you guys have been willing to take the time and share what you know and what you have learned with me. I recently read a quote by Leonardo De Vinci that said, “There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see.” Considering I don’t seem to be very good at seeing on my own, I am grateful for people like yourselves who are willing to show me what they see and help me to see as well. That quote turned my mind to spiritual gifts and the fact that we all possess different gifts and strengths, and as we share with each other we are all edified.
The best part of all this is that you guys teach with the power of the spirit, and as I listen, read, study, desire to learn, and open my heart, I am learning by faith through the power of the Holy Ghost and the Spirit is the one ultimately teaching me. Sorry this is long winded, but I am truly grateful and wanted to express my gratitude to you guys for what you are doing and thank you for sharing. please keep it up
Nathan
Wow, what a beautiful and heart-warming and encouraging note, Nathan! Thank you for taking time to write and to share! You have helped us to see that what we are hoping to accomplish is making a difference. We hope you realize that we are like you. We have learned much from great teachers. And if you love covenants you may enjoy my book: www.amazon.com/Covenant-Path-Bible-Book-Mormon/dp/1951341031.
I’ve watched quite a lot of BOM CFM videos and they’re all good BUT I just love Tyler and Taylor’s one because I fully get the stories and even words that’s confusing to me are very well explained. Grateful and blessed to have been part of your discussions every week. Much appreciated.
Thank you Milo for letting us know!
I can't believe how much you pull out of these fantastic stories that are amazing at face value and yet as we dig deeper they become even more meaningful!
We've been taught well by other teachers :)
My heart is rent as you make these people more real and close, as you help me "feel" and become them and walk in their shoes. They become my people, my dear brothers and sisters. They whisper from the dust; they speak by my side as we walk the path, shoulder to shoulder, hearts open, in aweful wonder and love, for the joyful eternity He has saved us for.
What a beautiful note, Sue! Thank you for sharing.
You guys are an answer to my prayers. I love your knowledge, your willing to share it with others. You teach with the spirit, I am so thankful for your testimonies 🙏🏼
It's wonderful to me to see that these Laminits are now putting The Gospel 1st.
In Nephi's day, it seems, being the ruler over the people was so important to Lamin & Lemual that it became every thing to them.
Now to see their people giving up their Kingdoms to know The Lord, is beautiful !
Thank you for your lessons.
The Readiness O-Meter STARTED with the Over Riding Principle of FAITH, in EVERY story and example within this Scripture Block. This basic principle started with King Mosiah praying to the Lord that his 4 Sons would be protected during their Missionary Journey, showing GREAT faith (Mosiah 28:6). This Principle continued with the 4 Sons going among the Lamanites knowing they would be protected (Ammon with King Lamoni, Aaron and his brothers and their mission), ALL demonstrated GREAT faith. Yes, FAITH PRECEDES THE MIRACLES !! Our Readiness O-Meter must START with this FOUNDATIONAL Principle as well !!!
Thank you for the added spiritual insights after studying this block the whole week! The Book of Mormon just keeps on giving!
Yes it does!
Taylor, I'm from Minneapolis and did the same thing - crossed the Mississippi River and fished in Lake Bemidji. I LOVE your presentations.
Thanks for sharing this Nancy!
Dear bretherns, I love the way you teach. I pray for you to teach us always. Thank you!
We sure do appreciate your loving support!
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the insights you provide. Thank you for helping me better understand my reading and for touching my heart as you teach by the Spirit. Tears of gratitude and joy always accommodate these sessions for me.
You are most welcome, Susan!
Brother Taylor and Tyler.. you two are the instrument of God. I really like and appreciate now The Book of Mormon. I trust the two of you.
Thank you Venus for your trust. We hope to continue to help inspire and empower many to find joy and delight in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Taylor AND Tyler, I thought I understood these chapters of Alma, but your addition of Hebrew teachings add so much to my understanding and love of these GOSPELS have opened a whole new world of knowledge for me ( which I share with other members of my Priesthood quorum) THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!----rick
Awesome to hear this Rick! The gospel is so amazing!
You guys have not only stirred my soul every time I listen to your lessons, but the Book of Mormon has truly come alive and the stories and characters are real and I love them so much and want to meet them one day. But the best part is that my husband, who rarely joins me to study the gospel, loves to watch with me every week and it is making a difference in his life now too! Thank you, and this is what I look forward to during our Sunday study time each week.
wow! What an awesome experience you are having! Thank you for letting us know.
TAYLOR! You just blew my mind. "Abish, she having been converted unto the Lord for many years, on account of a remarkable vision of her father." (Alma 19:16). I am very intrigued... "her Father". Wow, I hope that is true - that would be remarkable. Thanks again for a great show you guys. I wish I had the time to keep up with you guys. You are my favorite CFM commentary and I'm delighted you guys are getting the audience you deserve.
And I love your videos, too! And yes, very likely that is the meaning of Abish's name. Let's talk more. Drop me a note at taylor.halverson@gmail.com.
Wow! I have been a Sunday School teacher for almost 40 years. This is one of my favorite sections of the Book of Mormon, and I have much of it memorized. But after this class, I feel like I am finally starting to understand it. And I'm in tears! Thank you so much!
We are really happy to hear that this is of great benefit to you!
I am so grateful for both of your time and efforts. Your insights are so precious to me in helping me see "connections" in these scriptures. My day is off to a great start.
This is heart-warming to hear!
The words "thank you" seem so inadequate to express my gratitude for such a thoughtful, well-developed master class of the Book of Mormon. Since the government has classified me as elderly because I'm over the age of 65 (gee, that was news to me, I didn't consider myself elderly) I am banned from my place of employment, I can not attend sacrament meeting, etc, etc, etc, all in the name of health and safety. Well, your class was like drinking a long, cool glass of living water. Thank you again for inviting the Spirit into my home, for your selfless service of time, talents, and resources. As you reminded us what Elder Maxwell said, "some of history's greatest sermons are preached from the pulpit of memory to an audience of one", I will remember to ask myself, this most thought-provoking question, What are you willing to give away to know God better this week than last week?
This is a really inspiring note, Brenda. Thank you for sharing!
I really appreciate the dive into the Scriptures!
inspiring, thought provoking, insightful, introspective,
enlightening, encouraging one's own ability to Hear His
Voice today! Is there a greater need? Indeed, am I
willing to give up all my sins to know Him?
Beautiful note, thank you for sharing!
So grateful for the time you spend making these videos! These have greatly enriched my personal and family scripture study! What a blessing - keep up the great work! We need the Book of Mormon more than any other time in the history of the world. As I read about the importance of keeping our covenants, as I read about the rise and fall of of these nations, the destruction that corruption in government and anti-christ's create, the way God speaks through His prophets and warns/directs his people, as I read about how hearts are changed by the small and simplest of things- I am convinced more and more , that this book has been written for 2020.
Awesome note, thoughts, and insights. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your wonderful insights. So many wonderful teachings.
We appreciate you, Linda!
What I really appreciate in your weekly videos, is the consistent and steady encouragement to explore the scriptures, word by word. As both of you guide us through an examination of these scriptural verses, line by line, many new truths have penetrated my heart and mind, increasing my understanding of scripture like never before. Thank you again!
Thank you for your weekly encouraging support, Daryl!
Am studying every morning and following the Book of Mormon come follow me.. amazing Taylor and Tyler am gaining more wisdom everytime i watch and follow .. God Bless you more...know that you are loved!!
We feel it!
Thank you both and to all members of your team for this, another wonderful presentation.
The preparation and faith of Ammon helps make my faith firmer. Three days for a wicked indolent, idolatrous man to change is a manifestation of God's power. It was the right time for the sons of Mosiah and their friends, the ones who were foreordained to teach the Lamanites, and for the Lamanites to hear and receive the gospel. Even though Laman, Lemuel and the sons of Ishmael lied about Nephi, Sam, Jacob, Joseph, Zoram, and about what really happened, the hundreds of years of lies and bad traditions was coming to an end. This makes me think that it will take all the love, faith and courage of God-loving people to help those who has lived with lies and bad traditions for many years in their lives, to be messengers of His love and of a brighter hope for the future.
Great insights and ideas. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you so much for making this video! This makes Come, Follow Me lessons so much much easier to make and teach!
Great to hear this!
So glad to have you guys as part of our covid ward family each week
We are glad to be part of this amazing Covid ward each week! :)
Thank you so much for doing this show! 🌷👱♀️💖As a Temple worker, and a long member of the church I'm so happy to have this lesson to help connect me to the gospel even more! 😇🙏
Awesome to hear this! Keep on learning and seeking.
Yes Thank you. I feel I am not missing out on anything studying with you. I feel so blessed. I like the way you break things down for me. We have such a great lesson on Sunday. I watch you over and over again to ensure I haven't missed any opportunity to gain extra knowledge. Thanks again.
you are welcome! ;)
What an amazing truthful story. I received my antidote for the week... need more soon.
Thanks for your faithful encouragement!
I had the same experience. I was so happy to tell my parents about the true Gospel ,and my dad was not happy with me.
Thanks for sharing your story.
Dear T n T = Dynamite lesson. Thanks so much from Wales🏴. God bless.
Thank you Michael! Your comment made me laugh out loud.
Thank you both for teaching with the Spirit. It can come through the internet! I am grateful for your insights, your knowledge and mostly, for your testimonies. I look forward each week to watch yet another video from you. I was born into the church, attended all of my meetings, seminary and went to BYU and took religion classes there, however; each week, I learn something new, something more from your lessons. Thank you so very much!
Wow, this is awesome to hear! We are really happy to know that these resources are making a difference.
Beautiful!! I had tears as I was watching this. It is a beautiful experience to see the change that takes place when the spirit steps in. The sons of Mosiah and Alma were amazing men. I love how you mentioned they put alot of effort, time and meditation into their preparation. That prep time blessed and enabled them to obtain the gifts of the spirit needed to teach and convert. Oohh I just love these videos. This is also a valuable reminder to me that we are not to judge others for the things they were taught , or the way they were raised. All anyone can do is take people as they are and go from there, exactly as the sons of Mosiah did in this presentation, Thank you, I really enjoyed this, my spirit has been enlightened. Come follow me is amazing :)
Wow, thank you for this beautiful note! Thank you for sharing.
Wonderful as always. Thank you so much
you are most welcome!
At a temple worthiness interview with stake president once, I said my husband's heart needed softening. In the prayer the Stake President prayed for my heart to be softened. I felt like swinging with a baseball bat! GRRRR but I took that on board and just tried to love my not-a-member-yet husband more. We do need to turn inward and reflect on what we can change
I'm totally with you. I've had similar moments in my life where others were doing painful things to me and I wanted their hearts to change and inspired friends, mentors, and church leaders encouraged me to look at my own heart. That was really hard! But it was the right thing to do.
This is almost exactly what I went through as well. My husband left the church and I kept praying to have his heart softened, but the Lord waited a year for me to change my prayers to "soften my heart - help me see my husband as you see him". The difference was incredible! The Lord poured out so much love on me for my husband I could hardly contain it! I could finally see how much my words and actions were hurtng this good man. And we were finally able to talk to each other and laugh again.
Thank you so much for teaching me! Your videos are a light in my life!
Thank you for joining with us!
Thank you for all your teaching, I listen and learn so much
Much love to you, Pollyanna!
Had an Insight while listening today...Alma 17:2 "...They did seach the scriptures diligently that they might know the WORD of God." John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Thank you for the time that you take to make these videos, they greatly enhance my study!
Wow! what an awesome insight. Thanks for sharing. I had never considered that before.
Thank you for your teaching l will give up all of my sins in Jesus name amen
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Thank you for the way you delivered this, it was akin to the power my Mission President would teach us. You rekindled something in me today for which I am very grateful.
Great to hear this!
I always love the linguistic insights, thank you! You're both doing an incredible job with teaching these lectures. I keep watching them every week.
Thanks for watching!
great video it was really entertaining
Thank you for presenting this! I love it!
The scriptures are awesome!
Beautiful lesson,! Thank you Tyler and Taylor! THANK YOU FOR GIVING LGHT ON THE BOOK OF MORMON,,!
You are welcome! The gospel is amazing!
Love, love the Spirit I feel as I learn from you both
Thank you Lana for spending time with us!
I’m also from Minnesota calling Hibbing my hometown. Been to Itasca State Park many times. Joined the Church while a student at Bemidji State University. Just another Gospel connection....,.
Awesome! I love Minnesota!
Thank you guys so much for all of the study helps you give to us. The scripture plus app has helped tremendously in my daily study of my Come Follow Me lessons. The actual lessons that the two of you teach and share on youtube are some of the most inspirational lessons that I've ever heard. My husband and I can hardly wait to listen to the insights you teach in your weekly lessons. We have learned much and always feel encouraged to try harder in living righteously, week after week. You two guys are serving so many and we appreciate all of the time and efforts you put into all of these lessons for our benefit. Thank You!!!
Wow, Sherryll, your words really helps us to know that this is a blessing to you. Thank you for letting us know!
thank you for sharing your insights on these chapters of the conversion of King Lamoni and his father and many others. You have thrown a lot of light and understanding on the process of a persons conversion. I now can see and understand why my efforts to share the gospel continuously fail. Also the workings of the opposition of continuous negative thoughts. "Thank you"! I love you both.
You are much appreciated!
Thank you so much. You do such a great job of teaching and clarifying the Book of Mormon!
Thank you for spending time with the gospel!
Always appreciated the underrated role of Abish so thanks for the proposed insight. “Dad, do you wanna keep your arms” 😂😂😂
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thank you for this wise comparison about 'my past that is an important part of what my future can look like. Greetings from Belgium
We sure do appreciate you!
Thank you for what you do. I have been following your COME FOLLOW ME insights. They are very inspiring and I feel the Holy Ghost confirming those truths in my heart. This lesson also reminded me about my own fulltime missionary experience..Thank you for the reminder. I will strive to look closely to my own personal Readiness Chart.
Beautiful note. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for your great teachings
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Love the Ammon story in the BOM. I think of it as the David and Goliath story of the Book of Mormon. Against all odds. Also the spirituality of Ammon as a missionary and his relationship with the Saviour and love for the Lamanites.. Super duper explanations and insights gentlemen. Thankyou so much.
Great insights on comparing Ammon to David and Goliath. BYU-Hawaii religion professor had a similar thought. see here: rsc.byu.edu/vol-15-no-2-2014/faithfulness-ammon
Great,as always,
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Love all the lesso, thank you
You are welcome Leoni!
I love your style of teaching, I get so excited about learning the scriptures, your presentations motivates me to learn more. Your reference material help me gain greater insight on various topics. The question posed through your tutorials opens up my mind to consider possibility I myself have overlooked. I just love what you guys do you have made this time through Covid19 lockdown a time of great insightfulness, of in-depth study and consecutiveness to the Lord. Thank you for your love for the gospel and the strength of your testimonies through such a challenging time, you have help me greatly, and I am so grateful.
Thank you Alexia. Your encouragement makes the effort so worth it!
Again, enjoyed your insight and dept. Nice equations
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Thank you so much for a fantastic lesson!
We love sharing!
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Thanks!
I'm from the Philippines and i enjoyed each week listening and watching your presentation. Continue guys for doing it. It really help me understand as i study the "come follow me".
Thanks for the encouragement. We plan to continue doing these for several more years!
Loved the video, as always, as well as the video. Well done!!
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Thank you very much. Great lesson 😍👏
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FANTASTIC. I LOVED IT.THANKS A LOT.
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Hermoso!! Thank you!!
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Thank you wonderful lesson!
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Thank for this another great insight
We appreciate your weekly participation!
Amazing teachers ;)
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You are welcome so much! :)
Thank you ☺️
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a thousand thanks for your greatly uplifting reduction! it is so much fun and the way you put these lessons together and an exemplary collaboration
this is google translate; ) greetings again from Belgium
Thank you Julie! And I love google translate, its like my personal urim and thummim.
Thank you so much for your inspired teaching in the Book of Mormon. I so enjoy you sharing your insights. Thanks Taylor and Tyler. Please know that you were watched in Pennsylvania.
We love Pennsylvania! what a beautiful state, incredible history, and amazing people!
Thanks alot
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Oh thank you so much...Again! I am now starting to 'know' these wonderful people in the Book of Mormon. Your insights lift me every week. I delve into all your other links and feed on the new knowledge I am gaining. Combined with more meaningful prayers, my testimony increases each week. I wonder, even though this is Book of mormon central, and clearly, many years of your studying benefit us, will you be doing the same for the Doctrine and covenants next year? Please, please say yes. Bless you both for your love and dedication to the Lord, the gospel and to us.
Yes, we plan to do Come Follow Me videos for each of the scriptures in the Canon.
@@taylorhalverson3052 This is wonderful! Thank you. I have never been so excited in 52 years as even a strong member of the gospel of Jesus Christ, to study more deeply, the scriptures. Thank you both.
When you began your story, I immediately recognized you were speaking of Lake Itaska and the source of the Mississippi! I had no idea you grew up in Minnesota. I did, too!
Yep! I grew up in Pine Springs, MN next to Mahtomedi and White Bear Lake (NE side of Twin Cities).
I found a lot of significance in Ammon de-arming the Lamanite robbers. The robbers trusted in their own arms -- the arm of man -- whereas Ammon trusted in the arm of God. There is no comparison between the two, but if Ammon trusted in his own arms, he would not have stood a chance. We are in a similar position today. If we trust our own power or knowledge or talents alone, we will be overwhelmed. But if we trust in God, instead, God will carry us through.
What did Mormon mean by Ammon catching King Lamoni "with guile?" To us, guile only has negative connotations, but here this negative thing is used to bring about a godly miracle. Maybe Ammon is just really, really good at getting on people's good side and steering them in the direction he wants? That may have been a talent he had from back when he was a vile sinner, but now that same talent is being used to save souls.
Someone named Avis Klinger asked this same question and Taylor answered it. I don't know if you can find that comment.
This is an awesome insight, Amber! Thank you for sharing!
Hi love your videos. I’m wondering if you could tell me about the painting of Abish’s profile - who’s the artist, I’d like to buy the print. Thanks
www.jamesfullmer.com/
Hello Taylor and Tyler. Would you please comment on the word "administer" in these chapters. Is it synonymous with "minister"? As in Alma 22:3 and several other places.
great question. the word "minister" comes from the word "Minus" meaning "to make oneself lesser so as to serve others." putting "ad" at the front intensifies the meaning or shows a focus on the action taking place. in this case "service."
What part of speech is the word 'exceeding' ? It sounded to me like it means 'above' faith- almost knowledge. Or is it just a great amount as 'more of' faith?
Great question. Usually in the Book of Mormon "exceeding" is used as an adjective to mean "very great".
Entirely possible that one of the things that attracted Lamoni to Ammon was the Light of Christ that emanated from Ammon's face and presence. Probably something Lamoni had never seen and did not recognize but understood at some very deep level that here was a person of unusual character.
I love this thought!
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The comment Taylor made today about the word "righteous" being kind of like a 'code word' for in a covenantal relationship with God...I had never heard that expressed this way before, and it makes so much sense to me. I've always been a little hung up on what this really means, to be considered righteous. Would you recommend any reading specific to this concept?
Yes, I wrote a book about this! www.amazon.com/Covenant-Path-Bible-Book-Mormon/dp/1951341031
@@taylorhalverson3052 Well THAT is cool. Ordered! I think you should put that concept in your book description. Or lol I'll save it for my review. Thank you!
I would like to hear your thoughts on the end of 18:23. I don't remember the word "guile" being used in a righteous way, but because of the beginning of verse 22, it shows he's not trying to cause hurt. I also know nothing in the scriptures is pointless or purposeless. So why include the sentence "And thus he was caught with guile."?
Great question, Avis. The point Mormon is trying to make is that Ammon was a master communicator. Instead of being ineffective, he provided a "convincing" case to the king to listen more and accept the word of God. I agree that the word "guile" may feel as though it paints Ammon as negatively manipulative. I believe that Mormon intended to communicate in a positive way that Ammon was a master communicator. Hope that helps a bit.
I always love and appreciate the insights you teach. Taylor, thanks for the insight about Abish's name. I have wondered about Amulek's name. Without the 'A" it is Mulek which you have talked about before has being MLK or "king" in Hebrew. Do you have any ideas concerning Amulek's name?
Viable possibilities for his name meaning can be found here: onoma.lib.byu.edu/index.php/AMULEK
Where in Minnesota did you grow up. I served there in 68-70
St. Paul area (Pine Springs specifically).
Firstly, I would like to thank both of you for the great insights you present each week to help my deeper understanding of the book of Mormon. Secondly, I would like to ask your opinion on a question that has come to mind many times in Alma 17. Why, do you think, King Lamoni slew his servants who lost his flocks rather than slaying the Lamanites who scattered the flocks?
June Gamble
Great question. This is not a perfect analogy, but think about a worker failing at a significant task today in a work environment, they might get fired. Perhaps what Lamoni was doing was "firing" his "failing workers."
They are in the city of ‘Ishmael’. It sounds like it’s from the Hebrew, being called after Ishmael who came with Lehi from Jerusalem. If so, it would mean ‘God listens’, right? I think that symbolism is lovely re: Ammon’s approach to the king. perhaps the name gives weight to your idea about Abish’s name having Hebrew roots. If her dads vision was before her birth, maybe he named her for what he saw. Although I like your idea a lot about the tradition continuing of Abraham changing his name after a vision. perhaps she did too. Thanks for making your videos! My family learns so much!
Now that is a great idea! I love your thinking on this Tessa! Keep sharing :)
Other ways Ammon was a a Christ figure from video +: Bound, arrested, brought before a king, judged, willing to fight for a flock, willing to die for a flock, being a good shepherd, doing chores/daily life when others stood in awe at his works, son of a king, willing to serve until death, does serve/sacrifice, traveling without purse or script, gave up throne, fixing incorrect traditions, called enemies brethren, worked for the spirit (fasted and prayed), received heavenly comfort, confident, Meek, taught hardened people in tough areas to preach for their ethnicities, 3 days of quiet before the miracle (teaching the king), strength in defending his master’s commands, loyalty, seems able to keep his against enemy attacks, uses Socratic questions, helped people arrive at doctrinal conclusions while teaching, honors faith in others, loves his people, falls and rises on day three of king lamonis vision himself, story gives rise to women being mentioned in scripture (Mary, Abish, Lamoni’s queen). -stopping at the end of chapter 19. I’m Looking to compile a full list! Let me know if you think of some.
Awesome insights Tessa!!
Could you please tell me what the ‘scriptures’ are that are referred to in Alma and other places w/in the BOM, that the people are directed to study at that time? Thanks!
The scriptures likely would have been some version of the Old Testament and the Nephite prophetic records.
Taylor Halverson thank you for that clarification! I hate to be too inquisitive, however, do you think people then had their own copies or were they in a public access place? What are your thoughts..and we’re they engraved on metal plates, scrolls, idk. I realize it’s kind of non relevant to the big picture, but this has always been an unanswered question, and I value your insight 😀
I really enjoy your lessons and have gained a lot of insight, thank you so much for the time you spend doing this for us. In Alma 14 women, children and their scriptures were thrown into the fire, and in this lesson you mention the scriptures the people had. What kind of scriptures did the general public have? I thought only the prophets would have had the scriptures.
We aren't sure what scriptures the people had, but they may have had access to some version of the Old Testament with additional teachings from Nephite prophets.
Alma 18:36 mentions the scriptures. what kind did Amon and his brother take with them?
Concerning the meaning of the woman servant who called everyone when the king and his household passed out ,wasn't it a bit too much to conclude that she might have seen the Father?
The scriptures likely were some form of the Old Testament and teachings and prophecies of Nephite leaders.
As for Abish, given how ancient Bible and Book of Mormon scribes used names to teach key principles, this seems like a plausible meaning for her name. More on this at: journal.interpreterfoundation.org/father-is-a-man-the-remarkable-mention-of-the-name-abish-in-alma-1916-and-its-narrative-context/
@@taylorhalverson3052 thanks for your reply. My wife and I just love your lessons which always give us some important insights.
You both are awesome, we (my wife and I) always include you to our scripture study. We loved they way you explain things, yea, just like one of your commenter here the story in the BOM becomes alive they way you describe them, and I loved the fact, which I do the same, that you even add side story like Abish and others.
I have a little question t you Taylor about Abish. It's not that I don't like it but a little confused. You've mentioned that she was converted, yes? Because of her father being a righteous man and so does she. She didn't fall to the ground like the rest of them (Lamoni, his wife and all of them including Ammon) because she is already converted. My question is Ammon too is very much converted but why he fell too? The only one reason I can think of is, if he didn't fall, people might think he caused all those in the room to fall and might be blame for it. I'm not here to argue or something I just want to clarify things, I hope you can clear this out. Thank you to all your efforts. keep it up we like they way you present things. God bless.
Thanks for watching and thanks for this question! Great learning is preceded by great questions like this! I'll first say that I don't know what the right answer is because I've never thought about this question before or looked for an answer. But I'm wondering if Mormon wasn't trying to create a rule that "only unconverted people fall to the ground." I think he was trying to explain why she among all the Lamanites in the group didn't fall down. You are right that Ammon was already converted and so he doesn't fit the "rule". Let me know if you come up with additional insights on this.
My friend tells me that BOMC is not the Doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS
Can you please comment
I am a Sunday school teacher is it ok to use parts of your lesson in my teach
Both Tyler and I work at Brigham Young University and teach religion classes there. Though we are not the authorized interpreters of scripture (that is the role of the Apostles and prophets), we have testimonies of the truth and love to share with others.
It is interesting that Abish’ name means the same thing that got Abinadi killed... he said Christ was a man.
It seems more likely to me that Abish's father who did have a remarkable vision would have taught his daughter that God was a Man rather than assuming that Abish had had a vision..
Yeah, we don't know which explanation is it, given the lack of final confirming details. Both options are amazing.
If Anti-Nephi-Lehies does not mean against but for, why does anti-Christ mean against?
in names Anti is from Egyptian, such as in the name Anti-Nephi-Lehi = those who belong to the tribe of Nephi and Lehi. in descriptions (like anti-Christ) anti means "against" such as "against Christ"
Why does it specify that Lamoni was a descendant of Ishmael? And then he asks Ammon if he wants to live with his people or the Lamanites? And then Ammon calls his fellow servants Lamanitish. Was there some ethnic divide going on here?
Here is a general resource: eom.byu.edu/index.php/Book_of_Mormon_Peoples
And Alan Miner complied these insights: stepbystep.alancminer.com/alma_20
Was Lamoni a descendant of Ishmael or of Laman? And what was the relationship of Lamanite vassal kings?
According to Avraham Gileadi, we might obtain some insight into this situation by understanding the ancient Near Eastern suzerain (lord)--vassal (servant) covenant relationship. In the covenant of grant, when a vassal or servant king demonstrates exceeding loyalty to a suzerain or overlord king, the latter may bestow on him the unconditional right of an enduring dynasty to rule over a city-state of the suzerain's empire. [a "land of inheritance"]88 . . . These vassal kings are from among the peoples over whom they rule. That is, they are not commonly related to the suzerain by blood. Nevertheless, there is an establishment of a father-son relationship between the suzerain and the vassal, by a formula declaring the suzerain's adoption of the vassal. This creates a legal basis for the suzerain's bestowal of an enduring dynasty on the vassal; in the treaty language, the vassal is thus known both as "son" of the suzerain and as his "servant."89
The suzerain holds a feast or feasts annually (Alma 18:9; 20:9) at which his vassals renew their covenant with him. (Compare the Old Testament feasts of King Solomon as suzerain--1 Kings 8:65, and of King Ahasuerus the Persian as suzerain with Ether 1:1-3). That custom explains Lamoni's awkward encounter with his "father." The suzerain, who is king over all the land, seeks out Lamoni and immediately questions him about why he didn't attend the feast (Alma 20:8-9). Such an act signified a vassal's rebellion against the suzerain. It is doubtful the king is Lamoni's familial father, for apparently Lamoni is an Ishmaelite (see Alma 17:21). Moreover, the father king is old (Alma 20:24); and only some forty years earlier a King Laman, son of Laman, was king over all the land (Mosiah 24:2-3). [Avraham Gileadi, The Last Days: Types and Shadows from the Bible and the Book of Mormon, pp. 181, 215]
Why don’t we get name of King....Lamoni’s father!?!
We don't know why he isn't named. I wish we had it, too!
How long had Ammon's brothers been in prison before they were released (Alma 20:28)?
Great question, Annette. The Book of Mormon never tells us as doesn't seem to give any clues about how long they were in prison other than what we read of in Alma 20:28.