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Honda officially revealed yesterday the new 2021 Honda NC750X.
Honda says its a new bike, lighter, with new chassis, new electronics, revised transmission, more power, throttle by wire and a new LCD dashboard. But is it really a new bike? Is is really what you have expected?
Stick arround until the end of the video, and we are gonna dig in really deep, in all this new updates of the Honda NC750X, to find out everything about it!
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Model updates: One of Europe’s favourite all-rounders gets a well-rounded evolution: more power for the engine, plus higher redline and revised gearbox ratios, which come hand-in-hand with Throttle By Wire management, 3 riding modes and refined, expanded Honda Selectable Torque Control. Its renowned fuel efficiency is maintained, and a full 6kg has been shaved from the kerb weight. A redesigned frame is clothed in sharper-edged styling, the unique up-front storage compartment is usefully larger and seat height 30mm lower. The Dual Clutch Transmission variant continues to offer a technology unique to Honda on two wheels. A new screen, LED lighting and LCD dash round out the update.
Model Overview
2,8kW more peak power(arround 58 HP) for the NC750X’s EURO5-spec engine, plus an extra 500rpm to the redline are the headline changes, thanks to work on valve timing and intake/exhaust efficiency. Shorter ratios for first, second and third gears smarten response while a slipper clutch reduces lever load and keeps the ride smooth on rapid downshifts.
Throttle By Wire (TBW) brings with it adjustable engine character through 3 default rider modes - RAIN, STANDARD and SPORT plus a customisable USER mode. Honda Selectable Torque Control (HSTC) now has a finer level of input over 3 levels, while the Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) option features Automatic shifting schedules that integrate with the riding modes, as well as USER control.
The other attention-grabber is the 6kg weight loss, thanks to a new frame and detail improvements around the engine and bodywork.
The 2021 NC750X will be available in the following colour options:
Grand Prix Red NEW
Mat Ballistic Black Metallic
Pearl Glare White
Glint Wave Blue Metallic
3.1 Engine
Throttle By Wire and an extra 3kW peak power: 43.1kW with 69Nm torque
Shorter first three gear ratios for sportier feel, plus an extra 600rpm to the redline
Slipper clutch reduces lever load 20%, manages rear wheel on down changes
EURO5 compliant, with 28.3km/l possible (WMTC mode)
35kW A2 licence version available
Also for 2021, thanks to a finely balanced delay to valve timing (which also now differs between the two cylinders), plus addition of Throttle By Wire (TBW) and improvements to the exhaust, the engine makes more power and revs harder for longer to the new 7,000rpm redline. Alongside the power hike it holds onto an increased torque output for longer above 5,000rpm.
Peak power is raised 3kW to 43.1kW @ 6,750rpm, with maximum torque of 69Nm @ 4,750rpm.
The addition of a slipper clutch for 2021 reduces lever load by 20% and manages rear-wheel lock up under fast down changes of the manual 6-speed gearbox while decelerating.
3.2 Engine Electronics
Throttle By Wire delivers 3 default riding modes, plus USER customisation
Honda Selectable Torque Control features much finer control, and 3 levels of intervention
Also new is the full-colour LCD dash, which allows management of the riding modes through the selection switch on the left handlebar. The rear indicators now have an Emergency Stop Signal (ESS) function.
The indicators also auto-cancel; rather than using a simple timer, the system compares front and rear wheel speed difference and calculates when to cancel the indication relative to the situation.
The rear monoshock features a spring preload adjuster system with 120mm travel, from 150mm.
Ground Clearance (mm) 145 mm vs 165 mm !
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Honda officially revealed yesterday the new 2021 Honda NC750X.
Honda says its a new bike, lighter, with new chassis, new electronics, revised transmission, more power, throttle by wire and a new LCD dashboard. But is it really a new bike? Is is really what you have expected?
Stick arround until the end of the video, and we are gonna dig in really deep, in all this new updates of the Honda NC750X, to find out everything about it!
LCD is not colour. TFT is colour!? TFT in XAdv not Nc750x?
Indeed 🤔
very good. ! need ad on's, for crash bars, front mount mirrors. front storage boxes are lockable or ? usb charger-box in front for phone ?
Lol, people complaining.... Hell they added 4 horsepower, more torque, changed the lower 3 gears to improve acceleration... Lowered the bike and dropped 13 lbs off the weight... Better headlights.
Bigger storage. Improved the dash... I think they did a great job improving an already great bike.
it's a cheap ass upgrade. it needed better handlebars to improve the position, smart features on the dashboard, inertial sensor system (with abs cornering) to avoid the bike changing gears during turns, double front disk, more power... 58hp is ridiculous in 2021,should have been at least 70hp
Lol, your looking for a $12,000 bike... Good luck...
@@amelsfr Same mistake a lot of people make, you are looking at the wrong tool for the job you want to do. This bike is designed for a specific, niche. The next comment people make when they find the bike with all the high-end features is, “why so expensive”.
@@RayTeninty not really. it's just that people like you are so used to be ripped off that you don't want to see the reality. most of those upgrades I was talking about can even be add as options and the customer can chose to pay for it if they really want to. that would have made everyone happy.
People in General are spoiled little brats complaining about everything, they feel entitled to so much. The price point and intended user don't let the brand to put too many expensive aids that real bikers from back in the day would live without with no major complain. There's a lot of woman nowadays riding bikes and I've never heard a complaint about of lack of gadgetry or comfort on the newer models. Most of the Crying comes from full grown men, must be a millennial thing......
I live in the states and i don't just want a red bike like Honda seems to think. Honda needs to get with the program and let us have the other 2 colors the rest of the world gets.
Totally agree. I wanted to get this bike, but because its only red for the 2021 (in the US), I'll wait and see if they step up their game and better colors in 2022, if not, ill shop elsewhere I'm due for a new bike.
some want to look vs some want to ride !
But i dont think this is an issue,i bought the CB650R also Red and customise the colour purple and it looks better than the original colors Honda offers and it cost less.
Makes sense, now a pure road focused bike. Then Honda will announce an 850 Africa Twin as their on/off road focused bike to round out their adventure line.
Honda are in a difficult position. If they change the NC too much then people will say it is no longer an NC; if they only slightly change it then people will say that it is just the same old NC but at a higher price.
Things I like with the new version:-
New speedo (so long as it is clearer than the existing LCD in daylight)
Slipper clutch
New headlight (I don't think the existing LED headlight is good in daylight riding)
Things I don't like:-
Shorter 1-3 gears (If I wanted faster acceleration I would buy a sportier bike)
Horn button still in wrong position (they got it right in the 1960s/70s - why change?)
Still no external fuel filler (annoying when carrying luggage on seat)
It would be interesting to know if they have improved the seat slope / seat padding (they have not listened so far; will they ever?)
I doubt I would change my NC for this new version but that is a mark of how good the last NC was/is.
@Donaldo I have a 2018 NC with manual gearbox and find the existing ratios perfectly OK. It might just be me but shorter gears 1-3 will be too low and be frustrating to use. The NC is a brilliant bike and hopefully this new one keeps the character of the old model.
@@ccooper8785 I THINK FOR THE MANUAL YOUR RIGHT. HOWEVER, FOR THE DCT IT
WILL JUST UPSHIFT FAST AS CAN BE THRU THE GEARS AND ACCELERATE QUICKER.
THAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF AN AUTOMATIC. I HOPE AROUND TOWN IT CAN BE PROGRAMMED TO HOLD GEARS LONGER SO THERE IS NO BUCKING BACK AND FORWARD IN SLOW TRAFIC OR STOP AND GO TRAFFIC.
We still have the manual gear shifting and hopefully can change gears as we please 😎
It's was the same seat from 2016. This new 2021 seat seems just a little bit adjusted but still... it has some slope
Thinking about the comments on here about making the NC more of an Adventure road bike. This makes sense if there is a mid-range Africa Twin on the way. The lower seat height means they don't have to continue the S model and the NC carries on as an off-road capable bike that is equally comfortable as a mid range economical commuter.
Great updates on previous versions, I owned a 2016 model before changing regrettably to a crosstourer, looking forward to seeing it when it arrives at my local Honda dealer as I'll be seriously considering one. Thank you for your post.
Honda and their engineers are on another higher level. So awesome, ❤ Honda so much!
Thank you!
Thank you for this detailed overview. This was never going to fill the gap in the adventure range between the CB500X and the Africa Twin. We will have to wait for the rumoured baby Africa Twin for that. Given its target market - those looking for an economical and very practical commuter/touring motorcycle - price is going to be crucial.
I really like all the details u put in the video description, thank you
Honda did a nice job on a bike that is not really an adventure bike, but a commuter and touring bike. Gravel roads only - no trails. It looks better, and it is better all around but for the clearance issue that won't be a problem for the target market imo. Thanks for the comprehensive review, you included all pertinent information very nicely. Very well done.
Thank you Rick, I appreciate it !
seems to be more adventure than the CTX700 ; same features but lower ride ; like a cruiser. Waiting for the 750 to hit thailand. no one knows !!
@@ed.t.hansen6499 We don't get the CTX 700 here in Canada, so I don't know how it compares with the new NC750X, but I'll take your word for it. I've been told that the motor on the NC750X delivers power much like a big bore American cruiser. This bike seems to be a good bargain. It also stands somewhat alone in the market place bc there is no bike that shares its characteristics. To me the bike is best suited for a long relaxed tour bc the motor cruises at low rpms and uses so little fuel. Cheers!
The best review!! So details about the motorbike. Perfect
Thanks
Thank you Miguel, appreciate your comment!
Very detailed overview, thanks.
Thank you, appreciate it!
Thank you for that video, I prepare to buy it now 😍
Love the looks and new features. No intention of off road. Good info
Thank you John, appreciate it! Greetings.
Comprehensive and helpful informations to build an opinion if it's worth to buy the new one! Thank you 😊! I will definitely test her next spring!
Thank you Christoph, appreciate it!
I'm from the days when motorcycles had overwhelming power no ABS, no modes, no technologies just pure adrenaline rushing machines that heated up if driven slowly, designed to raise your heart beats and pose for camera at coffee shops and other social places.
I own the 2013 nc700 and as much as I'm happy with it I do miss the action packed experience of the CBR 1000 Blackbird or VFR 800 Vtec.
Thenk you for your rant
Yes. Go and buy a Blackbird to go with your big bslls😂
VFR VTec . WHAT! 😮
So much work has. been done . No wonder Honda is so successful 😎
Excellent information video (dispite a few repetitions) about an excellent motorcycle. Cheers.
Thank you, appreciate it!
I’m on my second NC750X. However, I was rather hoping for a more radical update in the form of the rumoured 850cc engine. Instead, we get a warmed-over bike with little to entice me to change. What a shame Honda did not utilise the attractive aluminium rear swing arm which was fitted to the Integra 750. Upside-down forks should be standard on this bike too.
Presumably they didn't want to change it into a different bike. Maybe there will be a mid range africa twin 850 next year as rumoured at a lot more money!
@@stevebolton8471 I guess so... Good job I like my current NC750. Even a recent test ride on the BMW 900 XR wasn’t enough to convince me to change.
Thx for the info. I like all the improvements. I would like to get it for my wife. Correct me if I’m wrong but I didn’t hear you mention anything about cruise control. It would certainly be a nice addition along with “ride by wire”
Hello, Dean! There is no cruise control unfortunately.
Thank you. Excellent video.
Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for your content!
I would love to get the new NC750x, but I am concerned that the ground clearance has been reduced by an inch, since I would like to ride it off-road. I know that the previous models could handle light off-road duties, but if the new model cannot handle any off-road, I would probably have to get a different bike (maybe Africa Twin). Unfortunately, the NC is good on just about everything else I would want as a commuter.
Great video 👍
Good job, thank you.
Congratulations 2021 nc750x and x-adv
Good look!
is there bolts to add sliders to protect all side plastic on both sides ? Bolts available for side boxes ?
They have perfected it wow 🤩 the bike is excellent
I have the 2015. The DCT is awesome. They really have this bike perfected. These new bikes are sooooo good
Good review on the new specs! Bike looks good, but I am disappointed. A better swingarm, proper engine upgrade and at least the same ride height would have been preferable. I like some of the mods. I use my 2014 model mainly for two-up touring, so a decent power upgrade would be nice. I love the NC too much to buy an Africa Twin, so I'll probably stick with mine for now.
All the guys waiting for a dirt oriented bike I would bet that smaller Africa twin has already been developed and is ready to be introduced.
CB500X.
@@NikiDDawg That is a great bike but too small,for tall people.
I keep coming back to this new NC. I'm looking to replace my 2019 SH300i and have looked at the Forza 350, the CB500X, the Forza 750 and this new NC. I'm erring towards the new NC with DCT as a replacement. It has some scooter practicality whilst being more bikey and will make an excellent commuter and longer distance bike. I have no intentions of ever taking it off road and as a pure road bike it seems to tick all my boxes. And it's a definite improvement on the previous model in many ways. Nice one Honda, and Ideal Bike for the review.
Thank you Steve! Just wait also for my tomorrow's review on the new 2021 Honda Forza 750. Just as a small comparison, I've ride them both. Greetings!
@@IdealBike forza 750 not availalble in Asia. but hope they figure out to add more leg room. the forza 300/350 is 15 in. too short.
Will not be upgrading my nc750 was hoping for the new 850 engine and much more power. Let’s hope the new 850 Africa twin is out soon ot
How is the power? Is this an enjoyable motorcycle to ring through the gears, or is it more like a low RPM Harley-Davidson? I had a 1980 Honda cb400t that had 39 horsepower but it had a 10000 RPM Redline and it was a joy to run through the gears. I know this has more horsepower, but I wanted to make sure that it is just as enjoyable to ride. What do you say?
I love the 2018-2020 Honda NC750X. You can watch some of my review videos regarding that. For the 2021 version we'll have to test it and see. Greetings!
Thank you for doing such a detailed overview so soon! So much appreciated! Lots to digest and think about.... It looks like they shifted their focus on making it more road oriented this year based on their research I suppose. I wonder if it would be possible to replace the forks with the x adv. Also, it would be awesome if they would add cruise control! If anyone knows of an aftermarket electronic cruise control, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Lots of cheap Cruise Control to attach to the throtle
@@p.santos6694 thank you brother! Yeah I've seen the throttle lock type, but I'm wondering about the electronic ones since the bike has ride by wire.
They should build actually a new bike, new frame, new suspensions, more powerful engine, lighter, spoked wheels, and the list can continue. My opinion is that it would have been too early and too risky to push it with the baby Africa Twin this year. Starting from 2022 we can speak about the true middleweight adventure bike that everyone expects from Honda.
@@r6bendlova ooh yeah that would be sweet. Sorry do not know anything about electronic Cruise Control 😁
Ride safe
@@IdealBike I completely agree with you! Exciting times my friend!
Thank you for the interesting video . I have a 2014 DCT
Thank you Stephen! And are you happy with your bike?
I’m happy with my 2014 DCT model . Adequate in almost every area really , I’ve ridden it from UK to Russia and back and it coped no problem . Yes I like the CD style of the new model but it would cost too much to upgrade . Besides I like long term relations :-)
@@stephenbethell7548 ha ha ha you really made me laugh 😂😂
I think I would want to keep the extra suspension travel and ground clearance. I would test one out for kicks.
it became a adventure bike on the road only which is super cool with me lower CG lower ground clearance which means better stability . I am game and it will be probably replacing my NC700X 2013 which is already amazing. Can't wait
Great to know your feedback, greetings !
Mine comes in next month:)
Greetings from Greece. I'm not disappointed but either happy with the new nc. I was hoping AT850 to be on market on 2021 but unfortunately we must wait. Do you have any idea for the baby africa when we will see it? Very nice review.keep up the good job.
Thanks a lot for your input! Greetings!🤘
Hairetismata from LA, California. The baby AFRICA will kill the today's AFRICA because everyone will buy the small one. Xehase to pros to paron, alla h mhxanh einai poly wraia Kai xenoiasth
@@broncosauer6006 πάντα όρθιος και καλά χιλιόμετρα να έχεις....το baby africa αν το προσέξουν θα σπάσει ταμεία....
is the center stand available now as standard; normally bikes in Asia are lower and center stands are hard to find.
The best review I ever seen about the Honda NC 750x from 2021.
Best regards from Oporto, Portugal.
Sérgio Carvalho
Hello Sergio! Thank you for the comment, greetings from Romania!
Where did they move the battery to, it was i bit of a job to change the air filter on the old version, but now they have tweaked the battery compartment i assume access to air filter is better?
Varying thicknesses for the frame tubes saves 1.8kg, while a repositioned battery makes for more luggage space in the storage compartment under the dummy ‘tank’.
Looks great as Honda is
Mi se pare geniala. Am dat avansul la ea de acum o luna, de abia astept sa vina jucaria :) Grand Prix Red of course si DCT
Felicitări, sper să ne-o arăți și nouă să o punem lângă cea veche! 😉 Baftă!
@@IdealBike Sigur! Dau un mesaj cand o ridic si ne vedem
Guess I'm gonna keep my old NC700X. I want the versatility of the clearance and travel. Some of those electronics I think are unnecessary.
good to hear suppliers of full crash bars and extras' side bag bars
Great & VERY informative video, as was your previous review of the 2019 NC750X model, & your related Top 10 upgrade recommendations for the same bike. However, with so many excellent and often pricey accessories available, notwithstanding storage related additions/improvements, I find myself wondering at what point would it be better to take say $4000 - $5000 of potential upgrades for a new NC750X, and redirect those funds toward the purchase of a better, much more capable, Honda model like a base model Africa Twin.
Thanks a lot for watching my videos, really appreciate your comment!
This its a great topic and a very pertinent question. I would say, if the bike its offering a great all in all package like our NC750X then it worth spending another 2000$ for some upgrades and keep the bike for a longer period of time and take the most out of it can offer. If you would like more off road capable bike, then the money should go for another bike like the new 2022 Transalp or CRF850 (we dont know exacly what Honda its planning with this middleweight adventure bike).
Great bike
never had problem on my small scooters; no off road planned. The ctx700 must be lower also as its even lower riding. so much more comfortable.
No cruise control?
For a cheap price, asking for a factory cruise control would just push up the $$$. Just add a cheap throttle locker or choke to it. It will do fine.
lower seat at 800mm, instead of 830. hopefully it's more comfortable... also hopefully they fixed the posture, the handlebars need to be closer to the rider.
the frunk is 1 liter bigger, different windscreen, but suspensions and brakes are basically the same :(
Ok lower seat 800mm more comfortable. But, bike look too low or small, like some scooter like integra
@Donaldo 2020 was sintered according to specs on the uk site.
I'm a bit disappointed on this new model, not the upgrade I was hoping for. no smart features on the dashboard, no inertial sensor system so the dct stop changing gear in the middle of the turns, same handlebars and so same bad position... they could have done better. much better
@Donaldo Never given me a problem because the DCT changes smoothly. Every time. Unlike me!
@@amelsfr Honda Nc750 x 2021 big dislike. To low bike for adventure riding
Automatic, trottle by wire and no cruise control. Wtf. Honda? Are you sleeping. In 2020 this is ridicules to say the least. You lost one potential customer for your 750X
You have mentioned evey new feature more than once, it's so repetitive. This is a 10 minutes video made 30
Thanks, I will consider for the next one. Greetings!
is there usb charging with a box up front for phone-charger ?
Need to add alloy swing arm, cruise control , before I change my 15 nc. Please listen Honda but they never do.
This is our job to do our best as customers and owners to send the messages to Honda, they should listen to its customers, usually Honda its good on that. Still lets be patience and give them credit for 2021 and 2022.
Verry good motorbike
Strong accent, fair motorcycle.
Fair its a good word, it is quite difficult to find a competitor for the same package.
the cases look really nice
do you know if we can get them already?
The problem with Honda accessories is the ridiculously high prices. I agree that these new boxes look really well integrated with the new styling - much better than before. Those boxes will be significantly more expensive than what's available in the after market. After dinging you for the boxes Honda dings you some more with the overly expensive carriers and locks. The Shad aftermarket boxes look pretty nice but they are way less money. Maybe they will come out with a road ready version with the boxes and bars included as a package for a somewhat lower cost. Those lights are ridiculously expensive, too. I would definitely go after market for the lights.
Watching from the USA. Europe gets updated models one or more years sooner than we do in the USA, usually, so I don't expect to see this new model in the USA for a year or two, at least.
Question: It appears there is an additional headlight in the "beak," under the LED headlight. Perhaps this light is designed to address a problem I have with the current version: cornering at night. The headlight emits a bright, but horizontal, beam of light. Fine for straight roads. But when leaning into a turn, the horizontal beam leans into the curve, creating blind spots. This calls for "leaning lights" or a better distributed led headlight beam. I had the previous NC700, which had not yet adopted the LED headlight, and there was no problem in the turns.
It is a safety upgrade, this time Honda really focused on safety parts :)
Hi there,
Do you have any idea if the "GIVI - TN1111 - Engine Guard" will fit on this bike?
I know that this model 2021 is different from the old one 2020 and there is nowhere to find details about this.
Thanks! in advance. :)
I will check this information, normally it should fit, haven't seen many modifications in that area.
QUESTION : are there any other DCT commuter bikes similar to the nc750x dct but with more power?
Not really, otherwise we would have bought it :)
need a kit to move the mirrors out front off of a windshield bracket. 2. need center stand; rear mgt for top box should be std. Limited storage. The DCT is great ! Did Honda learn that the Horn button goes on the bottom for first access ?
no really, the horn it is in the same place.
I would like to see the new version on the road.
LIKE TO SEE A flat seat at the same height as the main seat. take it back !
All the new changes are improvements for me. In particular the self cancelling indicators. Pity I cant justify a trade-in with all the disability mods that I need costing an extra 2K for each new bike. One day though.
Thanks for the comment!
I have 2015 DCT. Mine has aftermarket windscreen, engine guards, Yoshimura pipe, and heated grips. I understand what you’re saying. But this bike is a keeper
any differences in modes between the ctx 700 ?
Una moto spettacolare 😘😘👍🏻👍🏻
where did they provide mounting for sliders; crash bars ?
I will make a separate video about the accessories soon.
Not sure if I like the automatic transmission, riding style will have to change. I cannot cut the engine power off immediately using the clutch during emergency.
i have NC700 since 2012 this bike is great in emergency braking with will downshift automatic faster than any human, it have safe my ass several time. you can used shifter paddles like Lamborghini to change gear.
agree; downshifts faster than I could; also on my ctx 700. not a worry !
It’s like the iPhone. If you have a 2019+ model, very little point upgrading. If you don’t own one or own a early model, it’s very much worth it. But for a few more HP and a bit of tech upgrade, save your money and go for a 2018 or better still 2019 model.
storage charging but access needs a front box; ez to get in/out
I like it. The improvements make sense for me, but I hoped for more.
I thought of the new engine with even more power (66HP+) which patents were in media. Also a TFT dashboard with integration should be offered. Smartphone navigation on the instuments seems to get standard, Triumph and Royal Enfield have it on multiple models already, Kawasaki offers a nice TFT in Z650, Honda seems here behind :( Maybe this will come in the next evolution step.
Being more streetbike is no problem for me, even a plus. Lets be honest, that bit gravel road that most adventurebike owners call offroad can be also done on a NC750S with road tires. That is also the same for the NC power. Of course more is always better, but to be honest even the current 54HP are more then enough to have fun and to loose driver license quickly.
As the rumors of a new Honda adventurebike , smaller then africa twin, exist a offroad NC750X would be a close oponnent to it... undesired for honda.
I thought of introducing a NC800S street/naked and a NC800X "Transalp". Now it looks like we have a merged NC750X "Deauville" which is ok for me ... we will see what will be added in future.
Also I would love to get more comfort features of a X-ADV /Forza on a NC, being completely aware of a higher price... Keyless, Doublefrontdisc brake, adjustable windshield...
Again: the updates are nice. But for most NC owners maybe not enough to get a new one.
The gear ratios however... I am not sure if this makes sense on the manual transmission. In the lower gears The NC reached the limiter already quite fast.
Yes it can now rev higher, but as the gear ratio is shorter... It will accelerate likely faster but again fast in limiter.
On the higher gears however... the 6th is already slightly to much. The VMAX will be reached in the 5th most likely i the future.
@@CuetoArcheCanal true but it is closer to the 500X then to the AT, it could be slightly more in the middle performance wise. I would then also accept the slightly higher price.
Comprehensive, but I’m still not sure what features are new to the 2021 model; it would also be helpful if the data was posted along with the commentary.
Thank you for the imput, we can implement it next time. Greetings!
Does the lower seat height result in decreased seat to peg distance?
Not really
course control should be standard ....
Indeed, sadly it isnt....
Disappointed big time. I hoped the NC750X would have gone more AT : better suspensions (like the X Adv for example) for more off road capabilities.
Instead, it went more Tracer 700 way, which is essentially a road bike on which, I have no doubt, it performs well.
Same for the most of us... Unfortunately
Africa Twin has all the bells and whistles and would make the NC too expensive.
nothing is perfect , i was about to upgrade from my ncx 2018 till you mentioned the ground clearance that really was disappointing especially when it comes to offloading. and the fuel tank from my experience is very low it seems like its lower than 11 litre this really need to upgrade but i can tell this bike still ideal even for offroad
Thank you for the comment !
I'm disappointed with the suspension travel and the ground clearance. The rest of it sounds good.
They reduced the seat height 30mm by cutting corners and shortening the front suspension travel by 30mm. I see that as more of a disadvantage for a lot of riders buying this bike.
Power increase in upper rev range likely to affect the mid range negatively which is where most of us NC riders use this bike.
And lastly....where is the CRUISE control?!?!? Come on Honda.....
@@urbanfireblade I have no problem with the red line on my NC700X. It was just something to get used to.
does it have Cornering ABS that works also with the DCT like on the Africa Twin? those gear changes in the middle of turns are very annoying and dangerous
This bike doesn't have cornering abs, but Honda implemented signal cancellation and stop Emergency Stop Signal function.
That's also not says, but it's have better driving safety features
@@IdealBike too bad they didn't add cornering Abs. with the DCT in automatic, the bike always changes gear while you're turning... it's annoying and dangerous sometimes. I wish they add the inertial system to avoid that problem
@@amelsfr I believe that has been fixed already in the 2020 model (only changes gear after the bike is straight up)
@@p.santos6694 I doubt it because in order to do that you need an inertial sensor system that can calculate the inclination of the bike to prevent it from changing gear. that is not present on the 2020 model. only the Africa Twin has that. I wish the 2021 model has it
Do we know if it's coming to the USA?
It should be, from 2021
appears the rear light is above the frame bars to put on a top box ; ??
The OEM top case should not be a problem, I will investigate if a Shad or Givi TopCase can be mounted.
The more upgrades the more difficult it is for Honda to keep the price down, be careful what you wish for.
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difficult to compete with the mt-07 but you have dct. and at least some helmets for storage.
Well...in Germany, on the honda website, prices are different. ~7.8k euro and 8.1k for DCT, are they wrong?
The price I put on the website it's from the official Honda dealer in Romania. They price may vary depending on the country.
Definitely wrong impossible to be so cheap
I only just found out that Honda is offering three different packages. 1) Travel Pack: paniers, rack, and top box. 2) Adventure Pack: Crash bar and running lights. 3) Urban Pack: Rack and top box.
As in the previos versions, I would recomand to buy high quality parts separately, you may have the surprise that they are even cheaper. :)
@@IdealBike Yes, I agree that the aftermarket products are better value; that they are now cheaper I was not aware. Which products in particular are now cheaper?
Usually in winter you can find sales for most of them...
@@IdealBike No, I am not disappointed, but I still want to know how the change of power characteristics feels compared to the last model. I do approve of the other changes they've made to the bike - especially if the seat is padded better than before (flattening it was an important improvement).
fulll power version; you think local thai dealers know all this ? should be a selector switch to be switcheable ez. Who has the windshield kit to move the mirrors out front like the yamaha T max.
I owned a 2015 NC750X DCT model and now the 2019 model. The only thing that wolud really make me think of upgrading for this new model, is that ride height of 800 mm that translates in better handling. But at a cost of a lower ground clearence, I don't think it's a better trade. Oh well, I gess you can't have everything.
Sure Honda is concentrating it's efforts on deviating this motorbike from adventure role to a more road/commute bike. That's a shame and really tells their intentions about a new model to fill the gap they are creating on purpose.
Also, the initial essence of an affordable motorbike that can deal with almost all our needs of commute and fun travel, is further and further away at this (expected) price tag.
All in all, i don't think there are enough reasons to justify the updrading.
Luis, just let's be patient and wait for the 2022 new Honda Transalp/ 850 Africa Twin. I've spoken with the dealer and all the informations are leading to 2022 for what we are all expecting. 2020 was a difficult year for everyone all over the world. It would have been a difficult challenge for Honda to compete with the already established other brands when it comes to middleweight adventure bike... Just think about Tenere 700, 850 GS and KTM Adventure 790.
agree; such ez handingl. riding if lower; I have a ctx700 also; smooth dct cruising. road riding so not concerned about ground clearance.
They cost 12,000€ here in finland. But, I'm thinking about the 2020 model
So expensive? But why? 🤔
Not enough of an improvement to make me change mine (2018 dct). I would have liked to seen twin discs on the front and with the new electronics cruise control. Really happy about the lower seat but I’ve already had mine reduced to 805mm. It looks awesome but once you start adding the packages its going to be 11k based on current pricing and packs for the new crf1100. Overall still a beautiful looking bike and I’m really pleased I brought one.
Pot. lack of electronic cruise control is a deal breaker for me. Stay with my ZX6
Is it a full color display on the new one ? On pictures it seems to be a black white display 🙋♂️
Its black, grey white dashboard. The X-Adv its color.
Very impressive review of specs IdealBike
I put a link of your video in the 2021 NC topic of our forum in France
This 2021 update is the most important evolution since this model launch in 2012. I find it of course very attractive as often when a brand shows is brand new model.
For me the most important evolution have not been done : comfort
What about the new suspension that have been lowered, what about the seat that seems the same, what about the wind protection that seems to not bring improvement... Comfort which was a weakness have been forgotten 😢🙁
Thanks Mister! Seeing this new features from the NC just made me appreciate more what I have
If the price doesn't jack up too much or not at all, then these are welcome changes.
The price it's 7950 EUR for the manual and 8950 EUR for the DCT version
@@IdealBike hello from Greece, the price here is 9700€ for the dct version
Pfff... Quite expensive in Greece! Here 8950 Euro. And if you bring the old bike it's even cheaper!
@@IdealBike yeah,i have the same with you red 2020 dct and i am very happy.The new one besides the new screen and headlights, engine +3hp,i think ours is better
Glad to hear that, nice bike! Greetings!
Will we get this up graded bike in the USA?
Of course
Are you sure not on the website yet and we know that American Honda can hang us dry for a few years on models ie the 750 vs 700
Same ugly swing arm :(
Pretty much the same ugly look to the entire bike. Overall it could be a great, modern UJM if Honda went that way with it. Throttle by wire is pointless. Why make things more complicated and expensive to fix if they malfunction?
I am disappointed that it's only getting an old-tech LCD when their other 750's are getting a gorgeous TFT
180mm ground clerance Honda Cb500X.
This would have been great for the new NC....
@@IdealBike yes, and now 2021 NC look to low. I dont like this
not a bad thing. this way with a lower seat, shorter people can buy it, also 99% of people only use this bike on city roads
What did he say at 6:21 about defers between cylinders?
Said that the valve timings are different.
MIGHT WANTTO THINK ABOUT POSTING AMERICAN CONVERSIONS?
Question: when doing low-speed manouvres, one normally uses the clutch to control the power. How do you do this low-speed handling without a clutch?
Very easy by twisting the throttle gently, it goes smoothly. When the engine it's cold, especially winter you better wait until it's wormed up a little bit and then go.
It's a little bit different from the classic clutch but you gonna handle it. I have the 2019 model with the classic clutch. I simply didn't like the DCT when I tested it.
Why Honda not launch this bike in India.....?
weight loss means less metal; more plastic; - cheaper. lighter is not better.
Sunt foarte aproape de achiziționarea modelului 2021 si doresc să știu dacă acest DCT ți-a creat până acum măcar o minimă problemă, știut fiind faptul că Honda este mama fiabilității din toate punctele de vedere!
Mulțumesc anticipat!
Cu stimă,
Alex C.
Te salut, momentan nici o problemă în 2 ani și 40,000 Km. Dacă era fi sigur că o puneam aici pe canal 😉 Baftă!
@@IdealBike Îmi dai o veste maxim de bună!
De fapt de ce mă mir, căci aici între noi bikerii din Romania știu că există o vorbă: " Honda e Honda!"
@@IdealBike Mulțumiri maximale și mii de osanale pentru informația pe care mi-ai dat-o!!!
MILIOANE DE KM FĂRĂ PROBLEME ÎȚI DORESC !!!