How To Select Your 3800 Pulley Size | Behind the Builds | ZZPerformance
Vložit
- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- In the latest edition of Behind the Builds, Ryan lists the factors that should go into choosing a pulley for your 3800 vehicles. Stay tuned for the next episode!
Fuel | 00:29
Boost | 02:21
Mods | 03:12
Vehicle | 05:20
Products Mentioned:
3800 Modular Pulley System zzperformance.com/products/38... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
He is spot on about Regals, have an 02 GS. Bought it with a blown engine. First thing I did was a new long block from Summit racing and a 3" cat back and the new ZZP full size IC. Ported the SC and threw on ZZP full header setup and fender well CAI. 3.0 pulley with 42 lb injectors Yella Terra 1.8 roller rockers and lifters. Had it tune to get every inch out of it and now its a 12 second car on street tires. Ran it 3 times in the 1/4 mile and beat a 440 GTX, and 396 Chevelle twice best time was 12.9 on a cool night with 100 octane race gas
Great videos I've used your guys parts in my 2004 impala SS n everything's runs great on 93o with bunch of mods cold air, new larger dual exhuast, colder plugs, n wireset with 3.5 inch pulleycars more new then old with all the replaced parts now just need a pcm tune to finish it off
Made it strait forward, simple to understand, as only wish the build will be so. Thanks. a motivational post no doubt.
Nice video. I'm still learning how to setup a 3800 supercharged motor. I'm still trying to figure out what I want fir my 04 Pontiac grand prix gtp
I just bought one of these for 2k as a daily driver. I had no idea it was supercharger til after I bought it. I'm actually very impressed how quick these cars are for there price. Already on the search for another 3.8 to build when this one goes.
Great video! All makes sense. Do you guys have much info for turbo guys?
I am new to the 3800 I learned very fast build trans first then worry about power. But I did score a $1000 regal gse. Let the building begin:)
2000 regal GSE. Zzp 1.9 rockers, SD headers, Zzp 3.25 pulley, zzp ported gen3 from a ssm90 build, 42.5# Lucas injectors, Zzp tuned. Ran a 13.20@104 in AZ summer 100*+ weather. Just ordered my short stack intercooler. A supercharged car never should've been allowed to sell here without a intercooler. May 6th 2020 already 107* today in the shade. Running 100/91 octane fuel.
Note that 'premium' fuel Octane rating varies with altitude - 91 is the highest available in Colorado, which is why I switched to E85
Dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times you can watch all of the latest movies and series on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my gf for the last few months xD
@Bowen Rylan Yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for months myself =)
If you are lucky; sometime the premium pump tank gets filled with regular at some stations.
Joe Blow's fuckin' gas station down the street LOL
What about the 2.0 intercooler the newest one zzp cane out with? Is that a better choice then the full stack?
I've had an 07 Grand Prix GT/SC for 10 years now. I'm running a CAI, zzp power logs 3in catless DP, and 3.6 pulley. Where I'm at there's only 1 gas station that has e85 but I've been running 1 gallon of e85 and then topping it off with 93 octane and it drives like a wet dream! Even in cold weather the 1 gallon of e85 doesn't affect driveability at all.
Edit: I've also got a tuned ECU from overkill motorsports (IDK if they're even still around anymore)
It would be nice if you make a series of videos on a specific car. So like a complete upgrade plan based on each car. I have a regal Gs and I would like to know the first mods is should get. Well now I know change the exhaust haha. Thx great video!
Right! A W body or G/H body tutorial would be perfect
Well I have a 98 regal gs and been trying to look for exhaust but I want to know if I can put a doble exhaust?
Needs an edit with e85/pulley size.
Cheers!
I need help on how this would apply to my 2002 Nissan Frontier C.C. 4x4 Supercharged with an Eaton M62, please.
I have a 05 buick lacrosse with a 3800 series 3 that I want to do a sleeper build with but everything I find for performance is for a gran prix
I have just one question. I have a zzperformance 3.8 pulley on my 99 M90 supercharger. I have that charger on a acura TL-S motor V6 . Bigger injectors , fuel pump , -8 feed , heads are built , bigger headers and alot more done. I have it in a honda delsol .
Question is , am I running a good size pulley❓ wish I can post a video or pic . Thank you
Dose ethanol effect your fuel octane? I have 10 percent ethanol in the 93 octane in my area. I ask this questions becausefrom my knowledge the ethanol attracts water,
So would weight reduction, I.E striping car down 97 gtp. Would allow a smaller pully to be run?
Soooo I’m running 93 octane on 12lbs max boost and a 3.2 pulley. Is there an issue here? This is regarding what was said in the video around 1:35
How about a video about us LHU Regal GS guys? That would be great
I got a 97 grand prix gtp stock whats the best set up id be running 91
What is the math on figuring out the belt size for a 2.8 pulley?
Riviera is a g body car, in fact by wiki, the g body design for fwd first started in the 95 riviera, learned something new about my car today with some research lol nice
"G platform" I own a platform and a "G Body' also
I just bought a 96 and it's so fun
2003 Buick Park Ave ULTRA am guessing the exhaust is garbage just much as the Regal's?
What is the pest pulleys for Monte Carlo 2005 ss pls tell me I will be so thankful and I am buying the stage 2 intercooler system is a lot of money but I love my car 🤗
Hey Victor, your pulley size will largely depend on what you plan on doing with the car and how much power you want to make. Contact us at customerservice@zzperformance.com and we can give you some suggestions.
I bought my car with a 2.7" pulley and it hauls ass. I dropped it down to 2.55", have yet to drive it. Since I am running E85 and an air to water intercooler I should be ok with the smaller pulley.
ok so do yall do mods for supercharged rivieras
So, what if I'm running an M90 on a different engine, where can I find the core you use to make your intercooler? I haven't seen a small enough one, but the intercooler used in your kit will not fit my engine. Did you custom make it? Is just the core available?
Email us at customersupport@zzperformance.com and we can answer all of your questions.
So what happens when i inter cool my car drop to a 3.2 and during a run my cooler pump goes bad. Is there a warning your pump isn't working before your engine goes boom?
Monitor your IAT2 temp, set a high temp warning light, otherwise you will start getting a bunch of KR and timing pulled hopefully you notice one of those before it goes boom.
YESSSS
Just recently bought the 3800 stage 2 performance kit for my 04’ Monte Carlo intimidator edition, I didn’t see a option for pulley size when I ordered, I included my vin and assumed you guys would select the correct size, anyone have any tips or anything I should know?
The Monte option on our site includes a 3.5" pulley. Install of the kit is easy and straightforward, the only thing that you'll need outside of regular tools is a supercharger pulley puller. We have them for sale or for rental on the website.
What about E85 or E100?
I have a 2003 Bonneville SSEi. What pulley do you recommend
2.8-3
I bought a 04 grand prix gtp from an auction and it has some of your products on it. It has a 3.6 pulley and the aluminum airbox and filter. But idk if anything internal has been done to the car.
I’m guessing probably not if the only thing they are running is a 3.6
@@BelushiSpeedBall idk it has the aluminum air box and filter kit but idk about anything else.
Id hope they at least did plugs, thermostat, and downpipe. That 3.6 on his gen v m90 is like a 3.4 on a gen 3 m90
Ok so i have a s/c 06 grand prix gt what pully should i use
Depends on what mods you have. I was running a 3.6 on mine..
Mods: Headers, intake, rocker arms, plugs, 180 stat, and the tune that ZZP send on there computers..
My regal gs runs up to 10psi is that normal? I’ve had it for maybe 2 weeks and noticed it runs anywhere from 6-10psi is it normal to run that high? I do know it has a smaller pulley.
Also I got a duel mufflers
What do I need to get more power out of 2004 buick ULTRA.
We've got a video for that! These are our tops mods for 3800 supercharged engines: czcams.com/video/wTHlIUl6t9I/video.html
And what is that ?? I would pay 2 do a engine build on my park Avenue
Is my exhaust a restriction? 2001 top swapped Impala vs cam and headers? 2.8 pulley. Stock catback
Only if it had a u bend after the cat. Otherwise the front manifold can be swapped for a power log for better kr support.
Stock mufflers always have more restriction then aftermarket
what about e85
I have a 2004 Buick ultra what are the add ons I can run?
Shoot us an email at customerservice@zzperformance.com and we can help you out.
What about methanol injection?
Im trying to supercharge a buick Lucerne 2007 3.8
What about the impala ss
Running a 3.25 pulley on a 01 GS, Gen3, 255 pump, 65lb injectors, FW intake, full ZZP exhaust dual outlets, no headers, tuned on E85. Making 10-11lbs of boost. Should I bump up on the pulley?
Why such big injectors? E85 or just preparing for more mods?
@@Erik-kp1ux will probably do more. Don't care for the 42.5's and the 65's give room to grow
@@regalgn1 I'm running the 42.5s with a 2.9 pulley, really I could still be using the stock 33s but I didn't have a intercooler at the time so I needed the extra fuel. 42.5 Injectors are only half way maxed out. Stock fuel pump and runs on the rich/safe side. 60# injectors are good for 500hp. There's a lot of hype about these cars and the need for certain mods but after building 5 of these cars I've found a lot to be unnecessary. Get some headers and a intercooler and you could drop to any size pulley with your injectors. But the #1 mod for these cars is a cam.
@@Erik-kp1ux I'm on a 2.6 on my other 01 Regal but it's built. Gen V, XP cam, headers w/ open exhaust, N* TB, IC, 80# inj on E85 runs 12.0's
@@regalgn1 nice build. Glade to see you did it right.
Hi Bro..I have ?'s about my 06 Buick Lacrosse
Sell it and get a decent vehicle
Lol my 99 gs spikes at 9 creeps down to 7+ pounds on a stock pulley tho. 🤷🏼♂️
Can i get away with a 3.6 inch pulley on my 2002 Buick Park Avenue Ultra using 91 Octane with ZZ Performance 10.5mm spark plugs, ZZ Performance Ignition Coil packs and a Cold Air Intake? My stock Pulley is a 3.8 i believe. I am currently restoring my park avenue Ultra so im buying whatever new parts i can find. Just replaced my fuel pump with stock OEM since it had some off brand that gave out. Current mileage is 142,000 miles exactly.
Did you end up running a 3.6? I have a park ave as well and I'm doing the same mods as you, plus 1.0 pcm and front log
@@chokenstad unfortunately no, I was hoping to hear a legit reply from these guys and buy the pulley from them but here we are almost 9 months later with zero reply, I even emailed them and i didn't receive a word from them. 🤷♂️
Thats strange. Have you tried calling? I sent them an email last weekend and they replied by Monday morning. What mods do you currently have?
@@chokenstad as of right now just the ZZ Performance 10.5mm Spark plug cables, the ZZ Performance Ignition Coil Packs, ZZ Performance Fuel Filter, ZZ Performance Red Silicone Radiator Hose kit, XS Power D3400 Battery, Mike Singer 390Amp High Output Alternator and thats about it at the moment.
@@chokenstad as for calling them, I haven't tried that yet lol 😅🤦♂️
So what mods support a 3.4 pulley?
Rockers..colder thermostat
e85?
I have these mods on my 98 Buick Riviera:
Tuned PCM
2 range colder plugs
FWI
180 tstat
1.9 rocker arms
Headers
3.4" SC pulley
With 93 octane, does this justify my pulley size?
Contact us at customerservice@zzperformance.com and we can answer all of your questions.
🤣🤣 best shit ever
Sorry regal guys 🤣🤣
I'm running 12psi full bolt on kinda, with tune I say kinda bc I'm still running stock header and stock exhaust I'm working on getting a header and downpipe also no intercooler or internals at all but she still running like a champ at 117k miles
what does it take to get a 97 gtp to 300whp?
A turbo
A $3k transmission.
You don't need a turbo or a rebuilt transmission to get 300 WHP. I've researched this for months because I really want to supercharge my L36.
Ultimately, you will require some basic bolt-ons and a tune. There are some small mods you can do to help, also. Increase the airflow with things like a cold air intake, ported throttle body, front power-log, down-pipe (some people go with a u-bend delete), and many others, and ZZP sells all these parts. They only sell performance parts, so you can definitely get 300 if you want. I'm shooting to have about that much before this year ends.
Michael Blue I think you might need to research more. 300 WHEEL horsepower with a blower is going to cost stupid money and be a timebomb. Turbo is really the only way to go. Stock tranny won’t last on the stock 200hp either, 300+ eats um up fast lol
@@civicsr2cool Not really. A stock L67 has about 200 WHP. Sure, a turbo is more efficient and will produce more power with the same amount of boost. If you want to make big power, then it is the way to go. You can easily do 400+ with one, but I actually have an article from from GM EFI (who used certain things I mentioned in my 1st comment) claiming to boost a 2000 Buick Regal GS (which has a supercharged 3.8/L67) from a baseline Dyno run of 215 WHP to about 270 WHP with Dyno sheets and 1/4 mile ET.
www.gm-efi.com/tech/project-sleeper-status-part-2/
Great video. I have a lot of respect for you but you were moving like a bobblehead lol
Now 96-99 H body cars do have the least restrictive exhaust. NO one talks about them because they look like church cars. H bodies have no y pipes or U BENDS that the W BODY cars have. Also 96-99 Lesabre/88/ssei Weighs less than ALL 2000+ CARS. No one talks about that either. Also 96-99 H bodies are by far the easiest to work on. No one talks about that. W bodies take 2x the TIME to work on than H bodies. No one here says that. You can pull the motor out of a 3350Lb 98 lesabre in 1 HOUR. Try that on a Grand Prix. it takes 3x the time.
I own an 01' SSEi and plan on just going with very mild modifications.. The transmissions in the 3800s scare me😖
Man, I like my quite muffler
🤠🤠🤠🤠
My car wouldn't run on anything other than premium and higher 3800 II
i saw the testing done with an intercooler and it simply does not work. the dyno shows a + or - of 1 HP with and without an intercooler... the theory is the intercooler is a restriction to airflow. your money is better spent elsewhere.
Then you "watched" a very horrible test. I would be very curious as to where you seen this test. There's visual testing available right here on CZcams where Richard Holdner himself did controlled testing with the 3800, with and without the intercooler.
Intercooling is by far the best mod that can be done to any boosted application. You don't just toss an intercooler on and expect the engine to make more power. It's not a "power adder". It's a supporting mod that requires tuning to take advantage of it's benefits. Which if you watched some test done, tuning was never done.
These types of intercoolers do create a tiny bit of restriction, but as the air becomes cooled, it also becomes more dense. Then you can raise boost, and add timing advance(which is the biggest key) to create more power.
The only thing I agree with is the high octane fuel but you have NO CLUE HOW FUEL IS DISTRIBUTED TO FUEL STATIONS!! Secondly I am running 12 Pounds max of boost for 20 years on 92 octane.Again you really have no idea what you are talking about. Intercooler I agree should be done in excess of 12 psi secondly when cooling the air your pressure will drop as you are cooling the air. Exhaust size needs to be increased make that engine breath.
Men think smaller pulley is better? Got be in denial
Haha
BP? No! They water their fuel down.
I like how he thinks there are actually different tier fuels. It's been proven the gas in joe blow's pumps are the same as shell for example.
Wrong
The gas is the same but its the refrinies that's the difference. Example Shell adds more detergent than most other refrinies
Just put a smaller pulley on. As long as you have more fuel pressure than boost you'll be good. Obviously more boost is going to bring down the integrity of parts but if you're putting a smaller pulley on your know it's not going to last forever
Or, you can do it the right way with increasing the efficiency of the engine and keeping the blower in its proper wheel house. Just dropping a pulley size without doing other mods is a fast way to chip a piston or blow it up.....
Efficiency > m90 boost numbers. Smallest pulley possible =/= fastest setup
profanity is unprofessional!
It builds character