Alaska Airlines Flight 261 - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2018
- This Episode we take a look at a very preventable accident from January 2000, where an Alaska Airlines MD-80 lost all control of a vital mechanism used in basic flight controls.
I could only imagine the horror the crew and passengers must have gone through in the final seconds of that flight
It's just too much to think of. How do you stay so calm to convey messages during this. You can hear the paralyzed fear in the Captains voice. So sad..
Final seconds? Nah more like final thousands of seconds I mean it's one thing to go down quick like American 191 or 587 as horrible as they were both of those disasters the crew and passengers didn't even know what hit em ...the pilots on 191 knew somewhat but everyone else on that flight and 587 was literally one min relaxing with no thought it was their last moments on Earth and the next that was it ...Alaska 261 had to be torture on the passengers and crew though for me I rather be the pilots or engineer then a passenger or steward/stewardess cuz at the very least they're engaged and doing something but to just sit there not knowing is the absolute worse for me and I'm sure it was for them too... nothing short of torture
I had 3 family members aboard this plane. I feel so bad for everyone that died that day, what a horrible, sad and terrifying last few minutes they all experienced. The flight crew were real professionals. Rip
I lived in oxnard on this day. Remember seeing all the search and rescue helicopters circling for hours. Also seeing seagulls eating the body party off the ocean surface. I will never forget seeing that
Bless you🤵
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I'm sorry this one really sticks out. How the pilots try so hard to save everyone.
Im so sorry for your loss😢 but they are in a better place
Good on the whistle-blower at the company 👌
I agree, I just wish whistleblowers were not persecuted like pariahs, shame on Alaska Airlines$$$🙏😪🛫
Sometimes Snitching is good
Yes but unfortunately didn’t help with this accident
@Maurice Davis not a single A&P would fault him for speaking out. The good ones always put flight safety first. It's too important. The only criticism I have here is that he didn't go to the FAA before people died. He could have save hundreds of lives.
It's bulls*** that a HERO like John Liotine ended up losing his career in an industry where all he was trying to do was the right thing.
Whistleblowers should be rewarded, not punished. Thanks to John Liotine imagine how many MD-80's (and any other plane with the T-tail/jack screw assembly) underwent immediate inspection after this accident.
There's no telling how many lives he saved, but I'll say it again: John Liotine is a HERO.
I was working at a major airline in Phoenix, AZ at the time this accident happened. We were all stunned and heartbroken for our comrades at Alaska Airlines. I always knew that if I passed the breakroom and there were a ton of people standing around watching the TV that there had been an accident somewhere. This was just so, so awful.
You didn’t mention an important thing. The captain of the doomed aircraft pushed back when the ground asked him to continue his path to the SFO. He said he’d rather fly over the ocean until they figure out what’s wrong with the plane. This was after he saved the craft from the first dive and before the jackscrew completely gave up. At this point, he was just 40 miles away from the shores and could’ve easily made it to the shore to at least try to land the airplane. But he knew that the likelihood of them going home alive was slim. So he didn’t want to take any more lives on the ground along with him. He received a posthumous honor for this selfless and thoughtful act during what could only be described as the most harrowing and despairing situation of anyone’s life. He deserves much more recognition for this.
I watch these videos to keep myself constantly reminded how important my job as an aircraft mechanic is. No room for complacency. If I say something isn’t right plane isn’t flying period.
Thank you, Sir.
But you’re an airline janitor 😂
That dive while titled backwards for some reason just hit me hard. They were hanging upside down practically before they crashed. I cannot imagine those final moments.
John Liotine was the inspector who blew the whistle. He was my A&P instructor at National Aviation Academy in Clearwater Fl. He's a man you definitely want to learn from.
These pilots did everything they could and never gave up. They flew the hell out of that plane! Heroes RIP
@Shite Talker Dude calm down. The pilots were very unaware of how damaged the plane was. Maintenance are trusted to do their job and they just weren't. If the pilots had known, I have zero doubt they would have postponed the flight.
@@bluejay7058
Well said ...
Thanks to the introduction of CRM, Captains whom are 'hot-heads', are becoming increasingly rare in number, especially as they retire. Most know listen to their Co-Pilot, especially if said Co-Pilot has only three stripes, but does have more flight hours on type. Hence why you hear him tell the Captain, in the recorded voice conversation, that when the Captain says he thinks he has full control, the Co-Pilot bluntly responds with "No ... you don't."
But, despite that, they really worked hard to keep the aircraft aloft, against almost all odds, until the stabiliser failed altogether.
I think I saw a picture of the recovered jack screw/acme screw. You can clearly see a spiral of metal, which was what was left of the internal thread of jack/acme nut, wrapped around the screw itself, meaning an absolutely massive force had passed through the nut to the point the internal threading was sheared straight off. Once that happened, there was practically no chance of the pilots ever recovering from the nose down, inverted position.
I can't even begin to imagine what it was like, to be in that cockpit, upside-down, and the sea rapidly approaching ...
As for the passengers, and cabin crew ... that gives me chills to think of the absolute horror they endured, with only the lap belts holding them in place ...
@@nigelft I want you to know that I was responding to a comment who was talking bad about the pilots just in case the context wasn't clear. And yes, the pilots were incredibly brave to face such dire circumstances. Thank you for the kind words.
Of all the crashes I've read about or watched documentaries on, this is the one that always haunts me. What these people must have gone through in the last few moments of their lives must've been horrific. RIP.
„Plane is inverted, descending rapidly“
Response: „VERY GOOD“
I was thinking the same exact thing. Maybe that is how they are trained...?
My aunt was on this flight, it was such a mess in the time after this finding out what caused it and hearing that there was forged repair records and a guy who did call them out on it. I was 11 years old when it happened but I remember it well
Yeah so was my grandma RIP shout out mee maw
Sorry for your respective losses.
Lol lies 🤦♂️😂
@@Ben-ks5bm ah yeah nobody knew anyone on that flight right?
@@alanluscombe8a553 yes, you didn’t tho
This is one of the saddest air crashes I've ever seen. This was literally the airline betraying the trust of the passengers and crew. I legit shed a few tears the first time I saw a video on this crash :( May everyone who perish rest in peace
it was a crime imo because the maintenance supervisors were falsifying maintenance records in order to keep the planes in the air making money instead of on the ground being maintained all to get the airline out of bankruptcy.
This is one plane crash that really angers me. Cutting corners and risk people's lives. Management knew this but did nothing. Falsify records. They got away with murder.
And encouraged the pilots to continue course than divert
@@MUSTDOS Because he didin't think that the situation was so severe to divert
It's not an accident, it's negligence.
It's something that some people knew was going to happen. It's something that should not have happened.
@@ben.taylor especially, when they had someone bring this to their attention.
This crash will haunt me forever. I often think about the relentless efforts of the pilots, somehow pulling that plane out of its first dive, then flying inverted. They kept fighting for control till the very end. It just destroys me 😢.
I always think about this crash, it’s devastating.
As a transportation mechanic I can honestly say that the biggest huddle that we have to overcome is supervisors and managers who have little to no maintenance experience arguing with me as to why a vehicle can not go out and is in need of repair.
Huddle?..
I'm retired from software development. It was unrelated to aviation or anything life-threatening. Yet, I share your umbrage with management. Managers were easily the most negative aspect of my career experience. Their naive understanding of the work and their urgency to move on to the next thing was very often a root cause of problems. Then, they'd call developers to answer for problems (identified by things such as insufficient testing) that quite likely would not have been problems if the managers had listened to us. Reminds me of the Challenger's O-rings. I'm glad that I can now program just as a fun hobby, with no i***t managers around.
@@thepauldineen There's a reason you're not management. You're clearly not cut out for it.
@@andyw6996 Care to explain why, given what I've said here? I criticized NASA management. They clearly took a lot of heat for the O-ring/Challenger disaster given that the engineers warned them of what had a high likelihood of happening. Are you saying that I should be like them to be a good manager? Schedule uber alles?
Or, are you in management and my criticism of them as being naive was too personal?
@@thepauldineen Yes I am in management, and I have come across many, many employees like you. You just don't "get it". Which is why you'll never be management. Always complaining about the "higher ups". And yet, when you are handed even the smallest responsibility, you fold like a house of cards.
I don't know why, but this crash made me sadder than any other, always has. This and the Swissair 111.
Me too! The crew just worked so hard, like they wanted everyone to live and survive
I always felt the same way - the original ACI episode of 111 was pretty horrifying (and I’ve literally watched them all). The crashes where the crew know they’re not going to make it, but still have enough time to think about that realization... are certainly the worst. :(
Flight 2120 as well.
TWA800 and GOL1907 for me...
This and JAL 123 for me.
They all seem so calm when talking. The interaction between the pilots & the tower....
Even the pilots in the other airplanes reporting, “yea plane is out of control. Plane went down”. God bless the people on that plane. The horror they must have experienced going down.
They are trained to not lose your cool as then you die faster.
You hardly want someone who is screaming, ranting, raving. Yes, a major job requirement is to stay calm.
Dude that maintenance engineer that fucking told them the plane was going to kill someone that's crazy
Inspections and lubrication of these jackscrews are normally performed at varying intervals i.e. monthly, number of flying hours etc. The fact that this component failed leads me to believe the maintenance crew had not been performing this task for a very long time. Pure laziness.
This crash infuriates me.
me too. AA really should have been charged with a crime.
this was about a year and a half before i was born, but my parents lived in socal when this happened. i was talking to my mother about this crash yesterday-she said she remembered seeing the memorials set up on the beaches along the coast and the rescue and recovery efforts. she remembered specifically the cross and flowers set up on silverstrand beach. what stuck with me is when she said people could see the plane go down from the beach. i can’t imagine how awful it would’ve been to see so many folks’ last moments like that.
it’s heartbreaking and haunting what happened, and infuriating that profits came before people’s lives. it’s been more than 20 years, but the tragedy remains. rip to all lost on board, and god bless the families who lost loved ones ❤❤
I’m binging the crap out of this channel.
Relatable
I have seen pictures of the jackscrew. It's amazing it lasted as long as it did. Really sad.
Just so people in the comments are aware, "very good" in certain (archaic) American dialects means the same as "affirmative" or "roger."
Just so people in the comments are aware, “Roger” and “Wilco” are the only accepted forms of acknowledgment in aviation.
Just so people in the comments are aware, .
@@michaelbrodsky no they are not
When in the Air Force we had T tail aircraft that we worked on - One was the Vickers VC-10. This also had a moving 'T' tail stabiliser and a huge jack screw assembly. It was drilled into us on servicings that this one component could bring down the aircraft if it failed. We inspected ours meticulously and replaced them at the slightest HINT of wear. The screw was also well lubricated with the recommended grease. When we watched the report on TV about the loss of this aircraft and those poor souls we all KNEW immediately what had happened. We saw photographs of the recovered jack screw assembly and the condition of it was APALLING! For the sake of PROFITS people died.............. Mr Liotine was 'a hero' if only they had listened to him and REPLACED THE COMPONENT. Many families would still have sons, daughters, wives and husbands........ great videos.
Airline mechanics/supervisors should be held criminally responsible when their negligence causes injury/loss of life.
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I was so pissed off that the whistleblower got fired over this. Why couldn't they have diverted to San Diego?
the world is an unjustified place, run by people without emotions.
Further to the investigation, the maintenance records for this aircraft contained a technical log entry for the last check of the jackscrew thread wear. The inspector had found it was outside the wear limits per the Aircraft Maintenance Manual (AMM). The inspector had written this in the Technical Log, but, it was overstamped by a supervisor as rechecked and within limits. That overstamp effectively doomed the aircraft and everyone on board.
hypocrisy at its finest : killing people needlessly
10:08 - "...if followed..." I believe this is the most frustrating part. The NTSB *_cannot_* mandate or enforce any of its recommendations made in its final analysis reports. It is up to the FAA to do so. However, part of the FAA charter states that, while considering safety regulations, they must not unduly burden airlines financially. This has led to many an accident because airlines were successful in lobbying the FAA to make their mandates merely "recommendations."
I think one small detail should be corrected: it was the thread on the nut, not the thread on the jackscrew itself, which wore away. The trim was jammed because the nut threads wrapped around the jackscrew, preventing it from moving. When the autopilot was disengaged at 4:09 pm, the threads on the nut ripped away from the nut completely, meaning there was nothing fastening the jackscrew to the nut. The aerodynamic forces on the stabiliser, ordinarily resisted by the jackscrew being fastened to the nut, thus forced the stabiliser into the extreme nose-down position.
Yeah and also what finally broke wasn't the lower mechanical stopper, but the torque tube that the stopper was attached to and that ran inside the jackscrew
Thank you for the insight of this flight...the disgusting neglect from greed from the airline that then led to the demise of this flight and all those onboard saddens and sickens me...
So you always buy the most expensive ticket, so you can help ensure the airline is making money, right? I didn’t think so. If you want to blame someone, save a little blame for the bottom feeding public that screams when ticket prices are high, and screams again if airlines make money, and screams yet again if airlines cut corners. Oh, and before you jump straight to the conclusion of greed, maybe you should consider that greed had nothing to do with it. Instead, maybe it was people working in a job who made a mistake. You know, like humans do.
First time I've ever heard of the hero John Liotine. Thank you for another excellent report! Had this exact thing happen to my Howard DGA aircraft. Jack screw completely stripped out, a/c went straight up, stalled, spun twice at 9,000 feet. I recovered, power at idle & had to add extreme nose down elevator, so much so that I had to hold the wheel with my knee. I never touched anything after that, landed safely, studied the tail area, the jack screw stripped completely but was held from further travel by an airframe member. Detailed in my book...Over & Back by Wild Bill Callahan, on Amazon.
Wow...Would you mind saying the flight number, and when it happened?
Damn, sir. You are very, very lucky to be alive. Hats off to you.
@@fishofgold6553 No flight number, it’s a much smaller radial general aviation aircraft.
RIP to the elementary school children on this flight. One of my early memories is of going to the memorial your nearby elementary school held for you after the crash.
You were so unfortunate, and could have been any of us who flew on Alaska Airlines MD80s before this crash. Alaska Airlines killed you in one of the most terrifying, painful, and prolonged ways a person can die out of sheer penny-pinching and corruption. You made flying safer for the rest of us, and Alaska Airlines has, to their credit, developed an obsession with safety throughout the last 20 years, but you needn’t have died at all and it makes me so sad to think you would be my age now for $8 worth of grease.
Some of those children on that flight were my age. It’s not fair that I got to grow up to age 30 and they will forever be 6 years old.
I’d like to see an interview with these witnessing pilots. They had to be as terrified as the occupants of this plane. Rest In Peace, all 🙏🏻💔
If you grew up in the seventies watching Saturday morning cartoons you would want nothing on your airplane that says ACME anywhere on it, you would simply expect there to be problems.
why is the road runner a major stock holder in acme corporation? could it be so he could play both sides against the middle...make money off the coyote and at the same time make sure all the products fail?
i just ask questions. the answers are down the rabbit hole for those who care to look. don't be a sheeple. or a beeple in this case.
An ACME thread is one of the strongest for supporting end on loads. The problem on this aircraft is that the threads on the jack screw and the mating nut had no grease and had worn away nearly all of the thread. Some of the last of the remaining threads had been ripped free and had wrapped itself around the jack screw. This was found by investigators.
Nyeeeup, Wuts Upp Dokk
*19 years ago today*
RIP to all the people that lost their lives on Alaska Airlines flight 261⚘🌷⚘
It's not a maintenance accident, it's a maintenance mass murder...
Corporate leadership is an embarrassment. I get the fact that the goal is to be as profitable as possible, but how much money did it cost Alaska Airlines in legal fees, fines, and settlements as a result of their negligence in killing all those customers and destroying the airplane? How is this level of mismanagement even remotely acceptable? How do these corporate leaders live with themselves? Disgusting excuses of human beings.
The whistle blower was drummed out of the industry. For those who believe government will protect you and vote that way this ought to be a sign.
No one at AA suffered any consequences for this.
Ridiculous
More than ridiculous, it was a crime. AA got away with murder!
The stockholders are happy.
AA initially maligned Mr. Leotine, which didn't stand. Far from being drummed out of the industry, he went on to be an aircraft maintenance instructor for almost 12 years.
@@Tadesan I seriously doubt they were happy with pay-outs exceeding $300 MIL to settle lawsuits as something that made them 'happy.'
@@jeancorriveau8686 Inaccurate.
With systematic neglect they at leading positions of Alaska airways should be put behind bars.
New subscriber here, only came across your channel last week and think I've all your videos now. Amazing work, very detailed and respectful. That piano track you use is incredibly haunting but really adds to the narration.
Keep up the great work!
To anyone who wants to get rid of regulations, this is the result.
Exactly! Many dont see importance of correct audits & checks!
This accident happened with FAA regulation. And the whistleblower lawsuit occurred under Bill Clinton's presidency and FAA appointment.
@@puma.will.pounce7590 and? There's always room for regulations to improve. Just because current regulations didn't help doesn't mean all regulations should be scrapped. Unfortunately, every regulation is written in blood
@@SuperNuclearUnicorn - So you think that airlines and manufacturers wouldn't have adopted and implemented their own safety systems unless they were spurned on by regulators? LOL.
Many government regulations in fact cause harm.
This was just maintenance being lazy. Technicians were likely pencil-whipping the aircraft forms saying that they inspected the jackscrew and lubricated it, when they weren't.
I'm getting on a plane for the first time in two years in a couple months.
Late night plane crash breakdowns are probably not the best choice for entertainment...
HOPE YOU ARE DOING WELL.
I always do the same thing too 😓😩 why do we do this to ourselves haha kajshd
You also lie
Brilliantly done Anthony. Another air tragedy which was avoidable. More please!
its a bit sad to think all these people died because the company didnt feel like buying a new jack bolt which you would imagine isnt even a big cost. Probably easily visible just looking at it. This pointless silly negligence deserves a big law suit to pay all these people for a completely easily preventable accident.
Someone should be sentenced to life from Alaska Airlines for this.
I agree this was negligent murder.
I bet more then one should be behind bars.
@@gloria2619 murder is with prior intent to kill. It’s considered negligent homicide.
@@boxedferrotinc2290 All murder is called Homicide in the legal system. Murder is a layman term.
That's why Officers that investigate murders are called Homicide Detectives.
In court it's referred to as Homicide in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd degree.
Negligent homicide is 3rd degree.
I get it. I also know someone higher up Would have known that using the wrong grease Would bring a plane down. If they don't know that moving metal parts create heat and different types of grease have different viscosity levels, then how did they get the job? These decisions are made by Alaska Corporation.
@@gloria2619
I don't know about in the US, but here, in the UK, we have Coporate Manslaughter.
Based on the 'Guiding Mind' principle, if it is shown that a management figure, if not either the COO, or even the CEO, set the tone for cutting corners, and thus lax safety standards, was the direct cause of a lethal accident, then they could be arrested, tried, and, hopefully, jailed.
'Setting the Tone' may sound like management-speak, and a cliché, I wouldn't disagree. But if by 'Setting the Tone' means doing it right, the first time, as almost every time, especially when it comes to maintaining components that has zero redundancy (meaning if it fails, then the results are inevitably catastrophic ...), then accidents like Alaska Flight 261, wouldn't have happened, due to a rigorous inspection, and planned maintenance, programme ...
... but, unfortunately, that kind of thing costs money, especially as you have to balance the fleet in service vs the fleet in maintenance, especially the kind of maintenance that requires almost literally everything stripped out, inspected, then put back into an airworthy condition: all that means money lost from the aircraft being out of service for that prolonged extent of time ...
Hence, its very tempting to cut corners, in terms of extending flight hours, and reduce maintenance time, in order to keep flying at a time when the airline industry was in the beginnings of contracting ...
Few things, the pilots had no other choice but to invert the plane to stop the dive however once inverted they could not reach the rudder pedals or other controls probably because of G force. They were flying inverted but I believe I read they lowered the flaps during the dive just trying anything. When they went inverted I think the flaps might have had the opposite reaction to what they are normally used for, being unable to apply any rudder they couldn't really level off once inverted. The pilots did everything humanly possible and beyond. RIP
The plane became inverted as it dived and spiralled downwards.
The pilots didn’t intentionally invert it.
Once it became inverted they tried to fly it, possibly hoping to execute a controlled water landing upside down.
It would’ve given them a fighting chance of survival. Perhaps.
It’s not the movies, the pilots didn’t intentionally invert it (how could they? With no horizontal stabilizer or elevator control their pitch inputs didn’t even work.)
They were entirely along for the ride.
That defeated last status report by the other pilot just...hurts
What???
You can't make money if your plane crashes, get sued, get fined or even lose the airline due to bad publicity.
That’s the horrific part - to some extent they can and they’ll only keep pushing up against accountability if it means more profits
I used to fly frequently and never thought about it..I saw a detailed documentary of this flight and thinking the horrible ending those people went through and the pure neglect of the airline has literally given me a phobia of flying I never had
i know what you mean. i really don't want to fly anymore
That is so rare so I wouldn’t worry about it
I don’t necessarily fear flying save for that fact that if something serious were to happen I would know that my death is quickly approaching and there would be nothing I could do to stop it. I would like to think that, truly being forced into such a scenario, I would be able to take up radical acceptance for my situation and go in relative peace, but part of me thinks that I would be unable to feel anything other than abject terror and sadness. All I would hope for myself and anyone in situations like these is that it comes quickly, and given the nature of this crash, I’m sure they all went nearly instantly. They were spared from any physical anguish even if they couldn’t be the mental anguish of watching their deaths come and being entirely helpless to that fact. May they Rest In Peace and I hope their families were properly taken care of.
Very well done and well explained. Looking forward to more videos! Thanks
Life prison terms for the “brilliant” Alaska Airlines executives who pushed for less maintenance would’ve really sent a message to the industry. Instead, as usual, they get fined and sued. “Cost of doing business”.
that had to be one hell of a scarry ride down if you were in the back.
I cannot quit thinking about it. Well said 👍
Must have been tough on the Captain of the other plane who witnessed the crash.
Acme? That's the brand of machinery used by Wile E. Coyote in the Saturday morning cartoons! No wonder it failed!
I didn't know anyone on that plane but this crash and USAir 427 really really bother. 427 happened 25 mins from where I'm from. I know people who had friends on that flight. This crash gets to me because that FC fought to the very end. I can't help but wonder what all those people would be doing these days. It's heartbreaking.
This was horrific for all aboard 261. Only guessing that some of the passengers and crew probably died of heart failure or fainted before the plane hit the water.
Unlikely.
I would hope so ,not that any plane crash is not bad but this just seemed like a long horrible torture compared to other airline crashes
The fact that these other aviators were asked to watch the stricken airplane by ATC, and they reported in all of that.... smh I can't even imagine.
It was about 10 minutes between the first drop and the final crash. I can't imagine what it must have been like for those on board. They must have been absolutely terrified.
Keep it up man I love the content
Alaska Air gave some flowers to the families i guess. What a joke this airline is don't ever fly with them it might be your last. RIP all the people that died just so Alaska could save a little money.
I've been on one of their flights and they had these headrests that I wasn't tall enough for them to be comfortable. I remember being angry about THAT. But now I know it could have been so much worse. Those people who chose money over people's lives are despicable.
Alaska airlines is pretty good nowadays
I can believe they’re allowed to still be in business. Sickening pathetic people.. hope they can’t sleep a wink for the rest of their pathetically sad lives.
@@topherd1011 what are you on
Imagine my surprise to learn this knowing that my family kept flying Alaska through the decade after this accident.. I don't think the news affects my parents.
brilliant channel! I wish I found your channel a long time ago!
RIP
To the passengers and crew of Alaska Airlines Flight 261
Another beautifully well done video, bravo sir!!
An absolutely horrible disaster, thank you for the informative video on this tragedy, you earned yourself a sub.
My cousin who flew for Alaska at that time knew the pilots. All airlines cut costs because it was cut-throat competition back then. This incident nearly sunk the airline. Today they are among the safest airlines to fly. A hard lesson learned.
My mom was (and still is) a flight attendant for Alaska and knew the pilots and some of the cabin crew, along with one of the passengers (he was an off duty employee travelling with his whole extended family.) This crash was absolutely devastating for her and for so many people at the airline. It really was a hard lesson learned, with the lives of 88 lost, but it is truly amazing that Alaska survived and had a complete culture change in the aftermath.
@@aliccolo the only silver lining is other airlines had to take notice too. If a lesson is learned, it's valuable-even though it sometimes costs dearly.
Gosh, to only imagine those poor souls that were trapped. Last seconds in horror
Keep up the good work. Your videos are good and I like the sober tone.
Thank you for this video !
The statement the NTSB made should be mandatory or the business license would be revoked. That's why these airlines continue to ignore important things like making sure they don't take lives because of negligence. Those poor people and crew on that plane didn't deserve to die especially in that horrible way.
Thank you very much for your work, I like your videos.
6:39 ... I had to pause this here, that's just so incredibly heartbreaking
How do you not have at least a couple thousand subs??? Do a colloab or something dude you'd blow up.
The first dive lasted @ 15- 20 seconds and got them down from @ 30,000 ft. to @24,000. The second dive was the 83 second and fatal dive. Horrible preventable crash.
I worked for Alaska, but not at this time. The majority of victims were Alaska employees, or their families. So sad, like all air crashes are.
I won't name names, but I knew an engineer who worked for a UK airline who operated similar aircraft to the MD-80. They adhered to MD's recommendations that the jack screw be regreased after 600 flying hours, but one aircraft already showed wear at it's maintenance check. They sent an advisory to MD telling them what they had found, and that they were reducing the hours between checks. I wonder if the advisory was ever paid attention to and, if it had been, could this crash have been avoided?
WE DEMAND THE NAMES!!!!
Very good, was it the company that sent the advisory or him personally?
Lies
There was an egregious incident where an air traffic controller falling asleep and maintenance being ordered out without following regulations caused an airplane to crash after it hit a maintenance vehicle. Those controller, maintenance supervisor, etc went to prison. Where was this? Ukraine. In the US, Alaska airlines executives who fostered this culture probably didn’t even lose their bonuses.
It's truly sickening. Those responsible deserved the death penalty.
This kind of slacking off happens all over the place, in every field and every kind of job. People are lazy. Doesn't matter how important of a thing it is, it will be slacked off on. It's one of the reasons I left a specific area of the medical field, I witnessed this sort of thing constantly. People signing off on things that weren't done, a very regular thing.
I see it too. Zero pride.
Imagine what the atc and maintenance dispatchers felt when they heard about the plane crash and how it was kind of their fault
The music (although a plane crash 'classic') was a little too loud in the mix. Same with the Uberlingen video.
This flight and Air France 447 scare me the most.
YES
I heard the story slightly different in timeline..
It went awry already and they managed to get stabilized cruise only did not know if they would be able to descend to land.
During the test the bolt totally came loose and they immediately went inverted ..
I wished they tried a belly landing with gradual reduction ,this is worst ..
Makes me not want to fly....Nightmare!!!!
447 is terrifying
New subscriber thanks you for the content.
Nîce description of problem of that problem w/ jack screw. Sorry the "whistleblower" was fired.
He resigned
@@richardcranium3417 I heard he settled for an undisclosed amount which prevented criminal charges of the airline, and was subsequently given a month to cease employment.
I don’t think he just “up and quit” after this happened, as the video suggests.
I am a seriously nervous flyer. I have no clue why I watched this video. I fly in May. 🥲
If it makes you feel better, we all die from something.
Well, the odds of you dying in a plane crash is less than you getting struck by a lightning so don't worry. Also, even if there was a serious crash, and I mean a very, very serious one, like the plane crashing into a mountain levels of serious. The odds of you surviving is still at %55. And a serious crash is again a very, very unlikely event so you should have no worries. Just listen to what the flight crew say and you should have no issues. Just try to enjoy flying, like by watching the beautiful view of the skies.
@@kampfpanzerleopard346 Thank you 🙏 I try to not worry knowing the stats of how safe it is, but it is so hard for me. I am getting better with each flight though and I am really hoping I can enjoy the beautiful skies, as you say this time! I might as well enjoy the flight instead of internally freaking out. Flying without fear is a goal I hope to achieve! We will see in May!🤞Haha.
@@samanthalindgren54 did you fly yet? ☺️
@@carlacxx8059 yes!!! I am in Disney world now with my family!! Take off was pretty scary for me, my heart was pounding out of my chest. But after that I was totally fine!! It really wasn’t that bad. & I am slowly concurring my fear of flying! We fly back Tuesday!
What is extremely odd is that this is not the worst Alaska Airlines disaster, Flight 1866 in 1971 was. Yet this is more covered.
I think that would be due to the number of major media outlets on everyone's TV and internet in 2000 that did not exist in 1971. The crash, the fault, the poor families and the investigation of the company are all big money making topics for news media.
In hindsight, this was a tragedy that could have been avoided. As soon as the flight crew realized there was a mechanical problem with the horizontal stabilizer, they should have immediately declared an emergency and landed. At that point, they still had adequate control of the aircraft to land successfully. Instead, they performed troubleshooting procedures causing catastrophic failure of the horizontal stabilizer resulting in an uncontrollable aircraft.
This crash was part of the inspiration for the movie Flight
Ahh okay so it was Southwest Flight 227 standing in and used as base for Alaska Airlines 261 it makes sense.
I’ve seen enough these to know when you mention the jackscrew, shit an’t good
Flew on an MD80 a few times. Quick handling, sports car of passenger jets.
Hateful thing that happened on this video. Maintenance wins the day. Don’t skimp on it.
Shame on those men. Money is not worth the life of your fellow man.
Do you change your oil, rotate you tires, replace your brakes all on or before the manufacture’s instructions?
@@nitdiver5 you do realize this is an airplane right?
@@pyramidhead2874: You do realize it was an analogy right?
@nitdiver5 not a very good one mate if u neglect ur car you dont usually kill hundreds of complete strangers
One other thing...the very beautiful song you have on this video playing at 2:11...in the background of your narrative is so so mesmerizing...can you provide me with the artist and title...I want to find it..thx u
Hello, thanks for your comments. The piece of music is this one: czcams.com/video/Eaj-V2KIxRk/video.html I have used it for a long time and continuing to occasionally use it to this day. Thanks.
Keep the videos coming!
That was murder. Pure and simple murder!
The Pitch (idk what is called) Murdered all.
J A P A N A I R 1 2 3
You should do American Airlines Flight 191, another case of improper maintenance.
I remember seeing this on the news when it happened boats were out in the pacific ocean scooping up airplane parts I was in santa Barbra at that time
I was watching it live on CNN from Texas it was so Tragic
Head of maintenance should be sentenced to life in prison!! This was negligent murder!
Once again, no.
‘Murder’ requires an intention to kill.
Alaska Airlines was not trying to kill its customers.
Should be negligent manslaughter...like driving into and killing someone in a car accident while drunk
MrAJR76 It was murder by not caring
Isn't this the music from battlefield at the beginning?
"Definitely in a nose down position, descending rapidly"
"Ok very good"
"Plane is inverted, sir"
"Ok very good"
"Definitely out of control"
"Ok very good"
Like I get that he's just confirming the information he just got but can't he say "Thank you" instead of very stoically commenting "Very good" on a crashing plane
“Copy” or “roger” would’ve been appropriate too. “Very good” makes him sound like a sociopath.