Xbox leaked documents from last year already confirmed 2 more consoles 2026......already in development......stop production of the SX and XS. Making the new all digital SX using up the rest of their silicon....Xbox moving from AMD to Pentium and Nvidia... Don't believe me remember this comment in 2 years
Yep. It was doomed as soon as the big parasite publishers (Activision, EA, Ubisoft etc) started buying up studios and stifled creativity in favour of pure greedy profit. Originality was not important. Annual updates of Franchises being sold as new games - Farcry, AC, COD, FIFA etc, etc etc. Good riddance, I'm boooored with modern gaming!
Na just ya 😂 this happened before bro i was little only nintendo and ps was around the sega cd etc was dead on arrival and nobody cared only the first sega sold well after that it was dead hardly games at the stores .. funcoland was the spot to buy games
I think they just feel defeated with no way of winning. They slipped at the end of the 360 era and botched the launch of the Xbox One. They’ve never recovered from that.
This is really, really, BAD. If XBOX becomes completely third party, there will be no reason for PlayStation to compete. When no competition arrives, historically, companies create anti- consumer moves. Expect prices to skyrocket on Sony’s platforms, because without competition, these large companies will do whatever they want. That still includes not owning your media and likely a continued shift to just copy Microsoft’s games as a service strategy.
@@FANTAVISION Thank you. I know this sounds wild, but we’re going to have to push for regulatory bodies to limit these companies. We’re on the precipice of both not owning anything and gaming on console literally having a monopoly style of business. No one wins if that occurs.
It could end the "console" gaming yes. But unlike PS3 era, nowdays there are mobile and PC gaming which are bigger than ever. Sony would be foolish to chase their gamers away by making some unbearable policy.
@@yanacip678 They don’t need an unbearable policy. It’s common economics for any company that practices capitalism. The demand for a console that plays Microsoft exclusive developer titles is removed. Therefore, without competition, the demand for their competition skyrockets. Also, we’re headed for an all digital future. So, we’ll just pivot from console wars to digital platform wars, sadly.
@@josephchristiansen1803 With the exception of the Bernie Stolar "Saturn is not out future line" all of the mistakes that killed Sega happened prior to the PS hitting the market. Sega ran themselves ragged financially with over 17 failed pieces of hardware between 1989 - 1994. Sega would have fallen on their face regardless of the Sega Saturn's / Dreamcast opposition because almost no consumers trusted them by the year 1995.
@@daRealB-Rex I actually beg to differ. Sega went down due to trying to hard to push gaming to the next level with expensive, experimental bets like Sega Modem for online play, Sega actuator for motion controls, Sega CD for CD-ROM use or Sega Channel for subscription game services IN THE 80's & 90's. Whereas Xbox had the benefit of a "Mammon Machine" like Microsoft corp behind it and they lazily underachieved for 15 years now, either copying others ideas (Sega NET / Sega Channel via Peter Moore) or leveraging resources they already have lazily (Server farms for Xcloud). Sega tried too hard Xbox did not try hard enough. However, I agree either way SEGA and Microsoft have eroded customer confidence greatly leading to less than stellar outcomes.
Xbox taking the Sega route, moving from competitor to developer. Easier for them moving into the all-digital path becoming a subscription service playable anywhere (including rival consoles). They laid off 10k of the physical media dept, outdone 3-1 again facing Playstation, so why not cut their losses in the hardware and move on to becoming a publisher. All exclusives become 3rd party while forcing say Nintendo to release a truly next-gen handheld to run these games.
I disagree when you say exclusives are anti consumer and bad for everyone. Exclusives encourage competition and when there is competition everyone wins. There is a reason why the Xbox 360 did so well during that era and that was because of there exclusives. We need Microsoft to make more good exclusives, so this forces Sony to also come out with exclusives for the PS5.
@@FANTAVISION where'd you get your crystal ball from, sony charging what they want, bad for gaming if sony has no competition, they've had no competition for past 10years. Xbox problems all brought about by Phil Spencer and his goons lying and misleading a bunch of bum lickers with utube channels who feed their fanboy followers same old drivel playstation>bad, xbox>good.
@@FANTAVISION No companies are only going to be willing to take so much of a loss on the consoles. Microsoft would win be default then because they already have server farms due to their core business and having money to burn. Gaming should be competed upon on the games not the hardware. That is almost like fixing the competition for bigger companies.
@@Shinjiduo It's sad xbox doesn't even bother to try. It seems like they're more into buying franchise games that are beloved instead of actually making a great game themselves. Every time they try to put out a new ip it flops.
For me....I am old 43 years to be exact, "Retro" is the consumer choice for me. I have a HUGE Sony, Xbox and Nintendo backlog of games that can last for the rest of my short life....hopefully long but..... A have a ton to play so even if all gaming companies ceist to exist I am good. That's just me and I am sorry to see that gaming seem to be struggling. The vast majority of my backlog is offline too, so I am in a great place!
Tbh the price of everything is so high right now, video games are the least of my concerns. And also another tbh, this might be a hot take, but gaming is dying. It's not what it used to be 20 years ago. It's not even what it used to be 10 years ago. Sure, profits are probably up and that stats tell us otherwise. But we know that the heart and soul of a complete video game is not there anymore. It's all about micro transactions and milking the customer. They milk the customer so much that they can't even afford to play two video games anymore. If you play more than one video game then you are at a disadvantage when it comes to leveling up your items in one video game. It is exactly like the streaming wars right now. Every company has their own streaming service. If we, the consumer, pays for 5 different types of streaming services just to watch one TV show from each of them then it's basically no different than what cable TV was. Eventually, we will hit that same road block with video games. It is going to go down in value and then after a short period we will have good video games again. Rinse and repeat. We lived thru the golden age of video games during the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii days. The Xbox, PS2 and GameCube days were lit too. Especially because we also had the PSP and Nintendo DS to coincide with them. The last couple of video games I can think of that were actually REALLY complete up on release was god of war/Ragnarok, elden ring and street fighter 6. That's it. Everything else literally had like multiple micro transactions or were released incomplete
Yeah, the golden age of gaming is gone and soon there won’t be a point to own any console. People are talking about new all digital consoles, and guess what? I’ve already had games completely disappear from my account that I purchased on Xbox 360. I got a new hard drive in anticipation of them shutting down that old digital store and games that I have on the old hard drive cannot be redownloaded. I realized over the weekend that DLC to a a PS4 game I have is gone and can’t be redownloaded. This whole “own nothing and be happy” future is BS
I'm staying with whatever system stays physical, I like a mix of both. You can say PC is all digital now and that is true but I can access GOG, Steam, that crappy EA Games one nobody uses that I can't remember the name of. There are no alternate stores on XBOX. I believe Nintendo will stay physical at least for the next gen.
until steam goes under or decides otherwise. mean what if he sales it tomorrow? do you think say apple would keep all the old games up? all digital means you dont own anything.
@@sly2792004 Absolutely right. I have taken steps to protect myself as much as I can though. I have several old PCs where I have steam set to run in offline mode with network disabled and the machine imaged but still nothing beasts physical, hold on to it right to the end!
As a Playstation (2 through 5) owner, I'm genuinely not concerned about Microsoft leaving the console space. Why? because I don't feel like SONY has a gun to my head, forcing me to buy video games. If gamers will allow SONY to coerce them into buying something they don't feel is worth the price, then it's their fault for being spineless. These corporations will do what we let them get away with. We shouldn't have to rely on Microsoft to keep SONY in check, as if these corporations have unlimited access to our wallets. Don't like what's on offer, or it's too expensive? Vote with your wallet and DON'T BUY IT.
I mean, that's a shame if the rumors are true, but there has been little point to owning an Xbox for the past 7 years. I've been trying to get my few friends that still use it to migrate over to PC, but many of them simply don't want to.
True but it needed to exist to keep Sony in check. Without a juggernaut like Microsoft in the ring, Sony can do whatever they want. From the glimpses we’ve seen from them, that’s not good.
@@FANTAVISION That's true, but how long will they be a one-man show before someone else tries to break into the market? I've rarely seen any organic monopoly that lasted for too long before someone else looks up and decides they want a piece of the action. It happens all the time with companies, political parties, churches even. And if Sony really tries to push the envelope more to increase profits, it's only going to incentivize potential competitors that much more. Just my two cents
@@FANTAVISION You could say the same thing for Steam though, could you not? Plenty of companies have their own gaming launcher, but none come anywhere close to offering the same number of features and services available on Steam, even though there is no real reason as to why they couldn't, other than that it would likely take a lot of time and be an expensive investment upfront. The closest we've seen is the Epic Games Launcher and it's obvious they clearly weren't putting much effort into that. EA & Ubisoft just made what they could get by with. GOG is great, it's just more niche and simplistic. I'd posit it is all for the same reason: most companies probably don't think building their own platform to try and take on another company's well established platform is worth their time or energy.
hard to find a $350-500 pc that's as powerful as series x and comes with mouse and keyboard. you'd have to spend at least $1500 then buy keyboard, mouse and monitor. and if coming from console likely a desk and chair too. this is why most people do consoles and why most will never move over. oh and then spend $1500 every 3 years or become outdated. I have what was a killer pc in 2020 now it's outdated and can't play modern games that come out at same settings it could back then. I should have upgraded last year but since I play those games on console I haven't had to. I pad $1800 in 2020 to buy similar pc today would cost me $2600 or more. i dont know what it'll cost me next year with 5000 series.
Honestly, with the way things are going in the future I think the consul to keep producing physical games is the council that is going to win because a lot of people are going to want to buy physical games and if there’s only one Consol producing physical games that is going to be a lot to collectors because collectors are not necessarily this consul or that consul. They just love collecting and they need to have physical games in their collection. Digital games are fine but let’s be honest you don’t own a digital game at any time it can be taken away, restricted, and you have nothing.
Your take hits the nail on the head IMO. I wouldn't doubt that this was Microsoft's plan (or at lease they were already contemplating this potential shift) back when they acquired Bethesda and then Activision/Blizzard. They are becoming a software publisher, I think XBox hardware is going away.
I dont think so. this seems more like microsoft gave xbox a chance and is now taking the controls away from xbox. employees at xbox are upset and the press event is being done by microsoft not xbox. they tried to drive sales during holidays with $350 series x and it didn't work, now microsoft just wants to get its money back
Switch is a secondary system? That's a lie. Nintendo's financial report that came out yesterday said that 2023 had 122 million players. That basically implies that the Switch is actually the primary console for many players, and the Playstation 5 and the Xbox Series X and even PC are the secondary console. Mind blown.
I call it a secondary system because the big AAA releases normally do not launch on it. Also, plenty of people have multiple Switch systems while having only one PS5 or Series X. That’s like saying the DS was a primary system because it had a ton of sales. But you’re right, I’m sure many people only have a Switch, but if you consider yourself a “gamer” and want to play everything, the Switch cannot be your sole console unless you have a PC.
So many people I know ask me why I am hoarding old xbox 360 and ps3 games physically like a crazy person stuck in the past. This is why. They can't take them away from me, and I'll leave gaming clutching tightly onto the good stuff I have before I give into the digital future.
Hey man, I know this is off topic, but what kind of shelves are those that your games are on? Been trying to find decent shelves but having not much luck
Imagine thinking Xbox bought a company larger than Sony itself just to dip out, no chance Xbox is leaving the video game space or hardware. Zero chance.
I think that there has been a lot of sensationalist and overly dramatic viewpoints from both the Xbox and PlayStation communities over the past few days. When all is said and done, a lot of people from both camps are going to be made to look incredibly stupid and should be embarrassed with themselves. This whole thing is just pathetic especially when you consider that there is a lot of people who are literally falling for and are choosing to believe in every little thing/rumour that they see, read or hear especially when nothing has been confirmed/verifieid.
The fact that Xbox has not denied anything and has just said “we have an announcement in a week” is why I made the video. This is a very real possibility that I would love to be wrong about.
@@FANTAVISIONI would honestly be careful with what you see, read and hear as you shouldn't take everything as gospel. Unfortunately social media has fuled the sensationalist viewpoints and has caused a situation where people are peddling conspiracy theories based on rumours which haven't been verified/confirmed to be true and also don't have viable sources to confirm their legitimacy. I honestly think that in a few years from now we will be looking back at this and shaking our heads at the thought of how gullible people were for believing in said rumours. Not only that we will laugh at people/gaming journalists who made a mockery of themselves as well as the gaming community as a whole.
This is the exact same thinking that Sega had. It didn't turn out well. In any case, Microsoft did this to themselves when PS stood up and said "this is how you borrow PS5 games"
Playstation had exclusives everyone wanted to play. Nintendo has mario but people (me) will buy their consoles for zelda alone. Xbox never had the exclusives that would sell me on the new console. I have a 360 and one and love them but that's what everyone I knew played on. If the worst happens and the Xbox is the next Sega then we've arrived at a pivotal point in gaming. We'll end up "renting" games until they shut down the server
The beginning of the end for Xbox was around 2010, where MS tried to go all in on Kinect casual stuff, including shoe-horning into every game. That led to Xbone, and an example of how competition is good, since Sony (strongly rumored to have been adopting the same always online, no used games platform) was able to undercut Xbone's announcement by keeping offline, physical games the standard for PS4, forcing MS to retreat from the policy, but fatally wounding its marketshare. Now, there will be no one in the "high end" gaming space to be an alternative, except PC.
I was an early Switch adopter as well: the move back to cartridges was one of the smartest, most pro-consumer moves Nintendo has made - and they've been amply rewarded for it. Microsoft should learn some lessons from that...
@@stripedrajang3571 The Lost Child, (highly recommended to SMT fans) followed by Darksiders II, (I absolutely adored that game - I went straight to New Game Plus after finishing it, and went straight through it again...) I'm currently playing Darksiders III, and plan to play Disgaea 4 after it followed by SMT V. What about yourself?
@@stripedrajang3571 The Lost Child and Darksiders II come immediately to mind... also went through Mario & Rabbids: Kingdom Battle with my sister, (bought the Switch as a birthday gift for her in 2018; received the OLED Switch as a gift from her in 2022). We went through a lot of smaller games as well like Mulaka, Earthworms, Escape From The Universe. She also played through Super Mario Odyssey, The Banner Saga, Battlechasers: Nightwar etc... etc...
I do agree that competition is good so no one has a monopoly but everyone is so focused on a competitor for Playstation but what about a competitor for Nintendo? As everyone keeps pointing out Nintendo is "doing their own thing" and isn't really competing with Playstation so then why is no one complaining that there's no Nintendo competitor? It's possible that soon we may start to get a Nintendo competitor after everyone saw the success of the Switch (there's rumours Playstation might jump back into the handheld market) but currently there isn't really a Nintendo competitor and no one seems to mind, maybe the Steam Deck and Rog Ally could be considered but those aren't really competitors either.
Competition is good huh? Competition gave us pay to play online. Competition gave us $70 games. Competition gave us broken-now-maybe-fix-later games. Not everything is sunshine and roses because there's "competition".
@@FANTAVISION How did it not? Microsoft was the one that introduced us to these shit practices. And because there was no recourse, it created a new normal. When did them "competing" as a whole gave us more in recent times?
Meh, as a PC gamer I could care less. So long as I have plenty of games to pay that's all thatv matters. Just waiting for a PC port of Bloodborne and the new Stellar blade.
The regulators were so worried that the Activision deal would give MS to much leverage in the market. They sucked all the life out of XBOX and we now have a Sony monopoly. Great job regulators.
The PS2 killed the Sega Dreamcast. The PS5 will kill the Xbox as a console. Sony has been King of the video game industry since 1995. The PlayStation brand is a juggernaut that can't be messed with. Microsoft is finally realizing that. Now hopefully Nintendo follows suit.
Dreamcast died due to how easy it was to pirate its games iirc. It was actually selling pretty well until it hit that wall. Also, why the hell would you want a monopoly??
@@FANTAVISIONfor me every time I talked about Dreamcast, people Told me they rather wait for the upcoming PS2. Dreamcast needed an NES like adoption to succeed and it just didn’t come. Sales were good, but it needed to be great.
Honestly, the way it appears is that Sony and the PlayStation brand (as well as Nintendo) have been fighting for a very long time and have gone through some turbulence in which they both came out ahead of where they were. They both have done their homework and figured out how to survive in the gaming landscape. Microsoft could not and have been struggling arguably since the beginning. I'm not really worried about PlayStation being the "only" company in the market, because it's far from that. Yes, they compete with Nintendo and yes they compete with PC & Steam. Both of these companies sell almost all of the same titles that PlayStation sells and each has their own exclusives. I honestly think people are blowing all of this way out of proportion, especially with Sony going buck wild on prices and no competition and I just don't think that's true at all. Every console, gaming device and service is still competition for PlayStation.
playstation doesn't compete with pc. that's like saying kia competes with Porsche. yeah they both sell cars but not same type of cars to same customer base. a $500 console is different customer base then $2000 pc. one wants to spend less and sit on couch for 8 years knowing it'll play whatever game comes out at 4k. the other spends $2k every 2-3 years to keep up with games while playing at a desk. I do both, but I only use pc for games only on pc. if a game is on console id rather play on my couch with my controller.
I absoultely agree with you! It will be terrifying for the consumer if it will be only PS or only XB in the market. Microsoft had already killed Windows Phone, which decreased competition on mobile OS market, and that’s bad. It would be awful if we won’t have new fully fledged xbox in the future, I love both my xbox series x and ps5 (and switch), I really appreciate the experience each of these systems brings, it would be awful if it will be monopoly on the market. What can we do about it? I believe to buy physical games as much as possible instead of digital copies.
"Exclusives are anti-consumer" next sentence, "why own an Xbox without exclusives?" You answered the question bud. I agree there needs to be competition. But, exclusives are not anti-consumer. They give a reason to buy that console. Nintendo is a much better example than Sony. Their IPs sell the Switch, mixed with price. Maybe Valve has an opportunity to come fill the void. Valve has their own IP, Half Life, Portal, Counter-Strike. They make a console that supports their Valve Index and Steam OS, there could be the check on Sony. I am a Playstation fan. But, I know every company needs competition. Valve could pounce.
They are anti-consumer because it requires you to buy a system just due to an exclusive instead of it being a better product. Because Sony has exclusives means Microsoft needs them too, but that has nothing to do with it not being anti consumer.
@FANTAVISION Then there should be zero consoles. Why buy one if I can do the same on a different one? I didn't buy an Xbox One because Halo 5 sucked. And I didn't care about the rest. I have a PC, now I regret buying a Series X. It isn't anti-consumer. Exclusives have been a part of consoles since Atari. Again, why buy a Switch if I can play Mario on a Playstation? Consoles become like Blu-ray players then. Sure, they get cheaper, but so does the quality. Then comes the question of optimization. Unlike a movie, games need to be optimized for their platform. To make a decent console and make money off of it, they need the software. Their profit on a console is terrible compared to the software. Consoles are cheap compared to a decent gaming PC. To get the price down, they need software to make up the difference and turn a profit. So, consoles having exclusives make sense compared to movies and Blu-ray players. I have both Xbox and Playstation for their exclusives. Xbox's problem is that they don't have anything worth it anymore, while Sony does. If I were Valve, I'd be chomping at the bit.
It's not the end ! God you youtubers are dramic queens 😂😂😂😂 . They will simply put their games on all platforms!! Which is better for all gamers the way it should be!
It might be better for consumers if companies exchanged exclusives - ex: PlayStation gets Redfall and gives Microsoft Forspoken, or Microsoft gives PlayStation that Indiana Jones game and gets Rise of the Ronin in return. Both companies and consumers benefit from such deals.
@@FANTAVISION From what I've heard, Forspoken is not nearly as bad as it's made out to be, (see Rantan's review for details), and Rise of the Ronin is certainly looking good. Anyway, it would be cruel to deny the PlayStation fanbase the delights of Redfail. 😊 (By the way, love the Metallica Master of Puppets top, though I'm more of a Kreator fan myself.)
Saying something does do something... until shareholders start complaining. At the end of the day these companies are all here to make money, they don't care about any of us.
Shareholders definitely hold a huge sway, but shareholders didn’t make EA and Microsoft backtrack on their terrible decisions, we did. And if the shareholders did, it’s because they saw the massive backlash.
@@FANTAVISION I think there was evidence to prove gamers made a difference when there was a backtracking on that Xbox Live price hike... Until Microsoft did a course correction of their own and now has changed the Gold membership to be a Game Pass Core at $10 a month equating to $120 annually, and $17 for Ultimate monthly or $204 annually. So did we really win that battle? I think everyone got excited for Game Pass and what Microsoft was offering until we saw what was on the horizon.
If Microsoft drops back from consoles there may be opportunity for an electronics company to break in to the market. As long as a trillion dollar giant is in gaming like Microsoft, Apple, Google or Meta is in the console space no hardware developers is going to jump in to challenge them. Sony and Nintendo are far less threatening competition to a Samsung or LG etc.
@@FANTAVISION Its a long shot but it seems if Microsoft drops their hardware entirely it would be too big of an opportunity for electronics companies to pass on. With Microsoft hardware gone you are going to have 10's of millions of disgruntled former XBOX users to build with who just want to "stick it" to Sony and Nintendo. A lot of the current "hardcore" Xbox fan base still talk about how Hiroshi Yamauchi of Nintendo "screwed" Sega with exclusive distribution contracts in the US back in 1984. Give it a rest! The man has passed on and has not run Nintendo since 2002.
Well then I guess I'll have to go to PC gaming since there's no way I'll give Sony any money ,I just despise their politics and they're not consumer friendly.
This was always the plan, Xbox have been telegraphing this for years and with 100 thousand dev’s on salary they need to make money now. As for PlayStation, they have been more competitive than ever with no competition and the market will always correct itself. Anyone who thinks when that first game comes and Microsoft gets a massive revenue boost they won’t go full steam ahead is insane.
I've always been on PC but damn, one of my friends has been with his xbox S for long and doesn't speak English, there are usually hardly any games he can look forward to while PS has FF7 Rebirth coming up and Xbox's big hit Starfield was Starfield but other than that, Souls Likes and AA/AAA action games that are also on PC?
I think they will still make consoles as an option but not in a sense of a generational leap like the previous consoles. It’ll be a supplemental console not a sole console choice. Now this might be a stretch but the next console could be just a pc in terms of buying games that will be in one store. I.e. if you choose to buy the game vs game pass it’ll be playable on pc and Xbox. I also think they will bridge Xbox and pc with their services and interface like similar to big picture in steam. As a gamer, I don’t see this being a bad thing as at the end of the day it’s about the games and the experience of where these games are played at the desk, living room ,and on the go.
I agree with your analysis except your you won’t own anything, I’m a PS user these last two generations and have always bought a disc drive machine as I only buy games on disc not digital as I can then “OWN MY GAMES” not rent them via subscription services, come the day they kill the games on disc is the day I stop playing new games and just go back to my old catalog.
mean a lot of those discs are just keys that tell system to download the game. theres nothing actually on the disc. then the ones that do need day one update to run. I still buy physical but its not really us owning anything other then nice case and shiny disc.
Xbox and all the other consoles made me open my eyes this week. I realized. That no matter what. There SHOULDN'T be consoles anymore. The limit in the market. The fight over who can own what on what console. How old the consoles grow to not keep up with PC. The only way forward IS PC. Literally games are made on PC. Even if you can't play that game on a console. Wait a couple of years. And emulate it. Most of these games that are on PS5, and Xbox. Are on PC. Literally its the SINGULARITY of gaming. All becomes one and available on one. PC can Emulate the past. And play the future. And its Garenteed ownership. If the publishers try to take the games off of the market. Just go pirate it. NOT a great solution. But nessecary if the art is lost. We cant control Physical media anymore. Believe me. I wish ownershio on Physical didn't die. But this is the only way forward. If they are gonna push us into a digital age. Then we need to think about Ownership digitally. Files. We need to have the file we buy. Literally the only way forward. Cause if one brand of consoles can die. Then so can the others. And eventually. We all be on PC anyways i think.
Don't care about competition with a company like that. You know the reason you pay for being online on console is beacuse of microsoft? This is the same company that charged money for valve's free Left 4 Dead DLC and couldn't fathom that they could give it away for free on steam and the ps store. Their legacy is worst than what the OUYA left. Good riddance, i'll take my chances with the japanse. They make the best consoles and games since the 80's.
The other companies followed in their footsteps, so how does that make them any better? I agree, it’s BS that they started the trend, but they all followed. No company is your friend.
The only thing I could see potentially being good about this is that it could open the door for a new competitor to come in and fill Microsoft’s shoes. But if that doesn’t happen, and it most likely won’t, gaming is screwed
Maybe? But I’d argue that Microsoft hasn’t been keeping the door closed for anyone to join in as a competitor. The door has been open and nobody has made a real attempt sadly.
I play PlayStation always have. Having said that I pray Xbox don’t go away we need competition it healthy for everyone. If Microsoft poops out I will be seriously sad.
Im still amazed how long the zbox lasted. I thought do they know whey are doing? This just because before they launched the x box thats NOT their market. Tbe orher problen i find is the gaming industry is too reliat on the internet. The whole net could crash and there would be nothing. I say keep releasing physical media as well.
I like it too and play it way more than my PS5, and if you want it for your old games, then definitely go for it. Just giving you a heads up that its future isn’t very bright.
I've never been "anti" xbox. But, I will say that Microsoft has never once convinced me that I needed to own one either. Even with Game Pass, as great of a model as that is, they've never come out with an exclusive that is a must play for me. And sadly, this is why Playstation wins 3-1 in the "console war". Consumers want games, and that has been Sony's bread and butter, while Xbox tried to make the One a home entertainment system that just so happens to play games too. Microsoft did this to themselves, and the writing on the wall has been there for years. I feel this is chalked up to poor leadership with Phil Spencer, and Microsoft's unwillingness to listen to fans thinking that Game Pass would be the cash cow that keeps them afloat.
This is great news for Sony PlayStation. It’s a win-win scenario. Now Sony PlayStation can be the only console on the block. No competition to worry about. Everyone will own a PlayStation in the future, and PlayStation will be the only ones selling games and consoles.
I’ll never understand the appeal to all the single player only PlayStation exclusives so the fact that Microsoft is losing the console war this bad is eye opening
Maybe xbox might release their games everywhere else but only have bonus dlc stuff on their console/Xbox app on pc. It might be the only thing that maybe would keep them relevant. 🤷♂️ idk
I was told about this before and after watching this video I'm still shocked 😳. I own both PS5 and Xbox x series, so I guess no matter what happens I'm still keeping my Xbox.
I would suggest no one buy digital games for your Xbox anymore. Who knows how secure our digital libraries are after this. We as gamers and consumers are getting cornered bc they got rid of physical at the same time. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me. Well played big corporations. GG. The whole court case of PlayStation vs Microsoft was all a charade. Jim n Phil are laughing at us.
I think you should consider handheld gaming devices a bit more as competitors. I dont think consoles will completely go away, they will just become handheld consoles like the switch, steam deck, and ROG ally. I think most casual gamers will pick the convenience to play wherever they want, rather than what has the best graphics. I think that very soon, the idea of a console you plug into your TV, is going to become a thing of the past. And I must say that ReviewTechUSA made this prediction many years ago and I think he is right. I'm not a fan of subscriptions, so I hope they continue to give us the option to purchase the games instead at the very least
We definitely need to see another console if Xbox leaves the hardware space and I would say either Apple or Amazon should make one (ultimately I would love to see a Sega console make a comeback but that’s a long shot) according to the insomniac leaks Sony wants to price games at $100, imagine what the consoles would go for.
Now the only selling point about Xbox is if you have lack of patience to play their 1st party games and want to purchase or subscribe to game pass to play them immediately day 1 instead of waiting for it to be on Switch and PlayStation and their next console might just be a streaming stick not even a digital console.
Just to let everyone know, some games on Xbox are part of play everywhere, so when you buy on Xbox , you own it on pc too, it’s not all games and not even all first party game, which Xbox has no excuses. So if you plan on switching to pc, you won’t have to start from scratch.
Strictly speaking, when designing the PS4, SONY had to bear in mind the threat of Xbox from the previous generation... hence their very conservative approach, (compared to PS3 or even PS2). That said, the assumption that SONY will simply dictate prices is certainly questionable. Even if Microsoft leaves, there's always the possibility of someone else entering. ('The Theory of Contestable Markets.')
I think Microsoft's new strategy will be something like this: 1 - Gamepass will continue, because if the rumors are confirmed (and I think they are at this point), it will be the ONLY thing that keeps Xbox viable as a console, Gamepass would be the only feature to justify owning a Series X/S; 2 - I believe Gamepass will change it's current business model to having different subscription options, something like a basic plan and a "Master Chief" plan, in the first one the user can access the normal Gamepass catalogue, but without AAA releases on day one. In the Master plan, which will be much more expensive, users receive AAA on Day One, but this plan will require a subscription for at least 12 months. 3 - Perhaps basic Gamepass subscribers will have discounts for purchasing AAA games on day one. 4 - In January, MS already disintegrated the physical media distribution division, so we can conclude that there will be Xbox discs no longer, only digital. Also games from MS studios will not be made available on PS5 discs, so everyone will have to buy them from PSN Store and this mean one copy per account at full price, no more used discs market; 5 - Microsoft will never allow it's games on PSPlus, forcing PS5 users to pay for the games if they want to play; 6 - Single player games will be released first for Xbox/PC and then for PS5/Nintendo, they will be temporary exclusives for 6 months to one year; 7 - Games focused on Multi-Player, like COD for example, will be released at the same time, but of course PS5 players have to pay full price; I agree when you say Microsoft focus now is profit, that's it. And the simple idea of a world where only one company controls the console market is scary. One think is clear, the market will change.
I don't think it will be a COMPLETE subscription model. I think they will take a more 'windows' approach. They make windows hardware but it's not the main place people buy windows machines.
Don't care what u think of Nintendo & Steam, they still fighting for my dollar & time to play games. In fact Steam now have labels where game is tested to run smoothly for steam deck & don't mind plenty of the clone which might priced just a little bit more than a ps5. In fact Steam is more destructive since plenty more platform can exist in it even at the Os level not to mention bootlegging Nintendo's rom. Keep up with the times man. Stop thinking the old rules is what dictate the future.
The issue is Xbox hasn't been competitive with PS since 360. We are already living that life. If MS leaves Sonys number one enemy will soon become valve
Nintendo may be delayed but they follow the money. Whatever terrible things Sony cooks up as the powerful console market leader, they will take as their own too. We’ve seen Nintendo charge for online and sell $70 games already.
Microsoft bought up so many IPs, that means any new company that wants to join the fight, either has to buy up some company themselves, or create something that trends.
Yeah as you mentioned, I like Xbox and Playstation for different reasons. Hopefully the Xbox consoles arent on the way out. Cause if Microsoft can't compete with all their money, I don't see anyone else being able to step up and make something that competes with Sony, unless like you said Nintendo makes a Monster Switch, which I dont see happening
Exclusives are good, exclusives are competition, exclusive are the soul of a console, Nintendo understand this, exclusive are the sole reason Nintendo even exist
I think people are sticking to this small point in the video. Haha my small point about exclusives is that they suck for customers because they mean you are buying a system for a game instead of its capabilities.
When it hits, it hits hard. I still think Nintendo is going to pull a fast one and say eshop titles will be backwards compatible. Always watching your stuff man…I just hit 200, much respect to you and the OG Day one white!!!
Congrats man and thanks for sticking around for so long! Always motivates me to know that people have been watching for that many years. I agree, I think the next generation of Nintendo will be backwards compatible to the Switch, but they still won’t be real competition to PlayStation unless they actually try to make a powerful system.
If xbox leaves the party, someone will eventually join in. Sony and Nintendo will get lazy and continue to drop the ball making it easier to get into this space.
I think Microsoft is playing the long game. Remove costs on their end to buy more studios, and get everyone on streaming(renting). Maybe even buyout sony someday.
I don't even know how Microsoft and Xbox can try to back peddle this time. The silence for weeks was a giveaway something was happening. There's no feelings sorry for Xbox anymore, they've already had over a decade... and nothing has changed.
Thank you for liking and watching the video! Do you think that this is the end of Xbox as we know it?
I don't think it is. I hope not 🙏
Xbox leaked documents from last year already confirmed 2 more consoles 2026......already in development......stop production of the SX and XS. Making the new all digital SX using up the rest of their silicon....Xbox moving from AMD to Pentium and Nvidia... Don't believe me remember this comment in 2 years
I'm expecting a ready player one scenario from MS.
The gaming industry is really fucked
Always has been (well for the past two generations at least lol)
Yep. It was doomed as soon as the big parasite publishers (Activision, EA, Ubisoft etc) started buying up studios and stifled creativity in favour of pure greedy profit. Originality was not important. Annual updates of Franchises being sold as new games - Farcry, AC, COD, FIFA etc, etc etc. Good riddance, I'm boooored with modern gaming!
nope, only xbox xD
@@sabakahoundNot really because those Xbox players are just going to go to PlayStation plus Xbox will make bank being 3rd partu
Na just ya 😂 this happened before bro i was little only nintendo and ps was around the sega cd etc was dead on arrival and nobody cared only the first sega sold well after that it was dead hardly games at the stores .. funcoland was the spot to buy games
Gamers: Where are those dreams that I have been after?
Xbox: *Laughing at our cries.
The excitement for the competition is half of what made gaming so fun :(
Don't believe the hype homeboy@@FANTAVISION
I've been a fan of Xbox since the 360 days, wtf is going on with Xbox lately it's like they don't care about competition anymore.
I think they just feel defeated with no way of winning. They slipped at the end of the 360 era and botched the launch of the Xbox One. They’ve never recovered from that.
They don’t care where you play their games as long as you’re subscribed to g pass , when a console is sold, it’s sold as a loss
best takes I've seen on this subject. Thank you. Also, you look like Toby Mcguire's younger brother. Take care.
Hahaha thanks man!
This is really, really, BAD. If XBOX becomes completely third party, there will be no reason for PlayStation to compete. When no competition arrives, historically, companies create anti- consumer moves. Expect prices to skyrocket on Sony’s platforms, because without competition, these large companies will do whatever they want. That still includes not owning your media and likely a continued shift to just copy Microsoft’s games as a service strategy.
EXACTLY. You get it. Gaming as a whole will suffer if Sony is the only company left.
@@FANTAVISION Thank you. I know this sounds wild, but we’re going to have to push for regulatory bodies to limit these companies. We’re on the precipice of both not owning anything and gaming on console literally having a monopoly style of business. No one wins if that occurs.
Agreed. And a monopoly is inevitable if Microsoft drops out.
It could end the "console" gaming yes. But unlike PS3 era, nowdays there are mobile and PC gaming which are bigger than ever. Sony would be foolish to chase their gamers away by making some unbearable policy.
@@yanacip678 They don’t need an unbearable policy. It’s common economics for any company that practices capitalism. The demand for a console that plays Microsoft exclusive developer titles is removed. Therefore, without competition, the demand for their competition skyrockets. Also, we’re headed for an all digital future. So, we’ll just pivot from console wars to digital platform wars, sadly.
Xbox is becoming like Sega….came in to “hang out” and suddenly left
Which sucks because I wish Sega was still around making consoles too
@@josephchristiansen1803 With the exception of the Bernie Stolar "Saturn is not out future line" all of the mistakes that killed Sega happened prior to the PS hitting the market. Sega ran themselves ragged financially with over 17 failed pieces of hardware between 1989 - 1994. Sega would have fallen on their face regardless of the Sega Saturn's / Dreamcast opposition because almost no consumers trusted them by the year 1995.
@@Shinjiduokinda similar to what xbox has done if you think about it.
@@daRealB-Rex I actually beg to differ. Sega went down due to trying to hard to push gaming to the next level with expensive, experimental bets like Sega Modem for online play, Sega actuator for motion controls, Sega CD for CD-ROM use or Sega Channel for subscription game services IN THE 80's & 90's.
Whereas Xbox had the benefit of a "Mammon Machine" like Microsoft corp behind it and they lazily underachieved for 15 years now, either copying others ideas (Sega NET / Sega Channel via Peter Moore) or leveraging resources they already have lazily (Server farms for Xcloud). Sega tried too hard Xbox did not try hard enough. However, I agree either way SEGA and Microsoft have eroded customer confidence greatly leading to less than stellar outcomes.
Except sage didn’t have Bethesda , Activision & Microsoft backing them up
Xbox taking the Sega route, moving from competitor to developer. Easier for them moving into the all-digital path becoming a subscription service playable anywhere (including rival consoles). They laid off 10k of the physical media dept, outdone 3-1 again facing Playstation, so why not cut their losses in the hardware and move on to becoming a publisher. All exclusives become 3rd party while forcing say Nintendo to release a truly next-gen handheld to run these games.
I disagree when you say exclusives are anti consumer and bad for everyone. Exclusives encourage competition and when there is competition everyone wins. There is a reason why the Xbox 360 did so well during that era and that was because of there exclusives. We need Microsoft to make more good exclusives, so this forces Sony to also come out with exclusives for the PS5.
If all games launched on all consoles, then the power and innovation of systems would be even more competitive.
@@FANTAVISIONno bro your speaking from a gamer’s perspective but from a business standpoint its a delirious thought.
@@FANTAVISION where'd you get your crystal ball from, sony charging what they want, bad for gaming if sony has no competition, they've had no competition for past 10years. Xbox problems all brought about by Phil Spencer and his goons lying and misleading a bunch of bum lickers with utube channels who feed their fanboy followers same old drivel playstation>bad, xbox>good.
@@FANTAVISION No companies are only going to be willing to take so much of a loss on the consoles. Microsoft would win be default then because they already have server farms due to their core business and having money to burn. Gaming should be competed upon on the games not the hardware. That is almost like fixing the competition for bigger companies.
@@Shinjiduo It's sad xbox doesn't even bother to try. It seems like they're more into buying franchise games that are beloved instead of actually making a great game themselves. Every time they try to put out a new ip it flops.
It sucks because there would not be consumer choices as far as deal goes between Nintendo and Sony.
Exactly
For me....I am old 43 years to be exact, "Retro" is the consumer choice for me. I have a HUGE Sony, Xbox and Nintendo backlog of games that can last for the rest of my short life....hopefully long but..... A have a ton to play so even if all gaming companies ceist to exist I am good. That's just me and I am sorry to see that gaming seem to be struggling. The vast majority of my backlog is offline too, so I am in a great place!
@@knowledgeseeker4116 I hope your games stand the test of time.
Tbh the price of everything is so high right now, video games are the least of my concerns. And also another tbh, this might be a hot take, but gaming is dying. It's not what it used to be 20 years ago. It's not even what it used to be 10 years ago. Sure, profits are probably up and that stats tell us otherwise. But we know that the heart and soul of a complete video game is not there anymore. It's all about micro transactions and milking the customer. They milk the customer so much that they can't even afford to play two video games anymore. If you play more than one video game then you are at a disadvantage when it comes to leveling up your items in one video game.
It is exactly like the streaming wars right now. Every company has their own streaming service. If we, the consumer, pays for 5 different types of streaming services just to watch one TV show from each of them then it's basically no different than what cable TV was.
Eventually, we will hit that same road block with video games. It is going to go down in value and then after a short period we will have good video games again. Rinse and repeat. We lived thru the golden age of video games during the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii days. The Xbox, PS2 and GameCube days were lit too. Especially because we also had the PSP and Nintendo DS to coincide with them.
The last couple of video games I can think of that were actually REALLY complete up on release was god of war/Ragnarok, elden ring and street fighter 6. That's it. Everything else literally had like multiple micro transactions or were released incomplete
Yeah, the golden age of gaming is gone and soon there won’t be a point to own any console. People are talking about new all digital consoles, and guess what? I’ve already had games completely disappear from my account that I purchased on Xbox 360. I got a new hard drive in anticipation of them shutting down that old digital store and games that I have on the old hard drive cannot be redownloaded. I realized over the weekend that DLC to a a PS4 game I have is gone and can’t be redownloaded. This whole “own nothing and be happy” future is BS
Agreed. 360 and PS3 era were the best by far
Maybe Sega and Microsoft need to work together to make the dreamcast 2!!
I'm staying with whatever system stays physical, I like a mix of both. You can say PC is all digital now and that is true but I can access GOG, Steam, that crappy EA Games one nobody uses that I can't remember the name of. There are no alternate stores on XBOX. I believe Nintendo will stay physical at least for the next gen.
Exactly. PC and physical are the way to guarantee ownership of what you buy.
until steam goes under or decides otherwise. mean what if he sales it tomorrow? do you think say apple would keep all the old games up? all digital means you dont own anything.
@@sly2792004 Absolutely right. I have taken steps to protect myself as much as I can though. I have several old PCs where I have steam set to run in offline mode with network disabled and the machine imaged but still nothing beasts physical, hold on to it right to the end!
@@sly2792004then I'll just pirate the games I own. Simple
As a Playstation (2 through 5) owner, I'm genuinely not concerned about Microsoft leaving the console space. Why? because I don't feel like SONY has a gun to my head, forcing me to buy video games. If gamers will allow SONY to coerce them into buying something they don't feel is worth the price, then it's their fault for being spineless. These corporations will do what we let them get away with. We shouldn't have to rely on Microsoft to keep SONY in check, as if these corporations have unlimited access to our wallets. Don't like what's on offer, or it's too expensive? Vote with your wallet and DON'T BUY IT.
I mean, that's a shame if the rumors are true, but there has been little point to owning an Xbox for the past 7 years. I've been trying to get my few friends that still use it to migrate over to PC, but many of them simply don't want to.
True but it needed to exist to keep Sony in check. Without a juggernaut like Microsoft in the ring, Sony can do whatever they want. From the glimpses we’ve seen from them, that’s not good.
@@FANTAVISION That's true, but how long will they be a one-man show before someone else tries to break into the market? I've rarely seen any organic monopoly that lasted for too long before someone else looks up and decides they want a piece of the action. It happens all the time with companies, political parties, churches even. And if Sony really tries to push the envelope more to increase profits, it's only going to incentivize potential competitors that much more.
Just my two cents
I really really hope you’re right. For some reason, no company has made a real effort to join in.
@@FANTAVISION You could say the same thing for Steam though, could you not? Plenty of companies have their own gaming launcher, but none come anywhere close to offering the same number of features and services available on Steam, even though there is no real reason as to why they couldn't, other than that it would likely take a lot of time and be an expensive investment upfront.
The closest we've seen is the Epic Games Launcher and it's obvious they clearly weren't putting much effort into that. EA & Ubisoft just made what they could get by with. GOG is great, it's just more niche and simplistic.
I'd posit it is all for the same reason: most companies probably don't think building their own platform to try and take on another company's well established platform is worth their time or energy.
hard to find a $350-500 pc that's as powerful as series x and comes with mouse and keyboard. you'd have to spend at least $1500 then buy keyboard, mouse and monitor. and if coming from console likely a desk and chair too. this is why most people do consoles and why most will never move over. oh and then spend $1500 every 3 years or become outdated. I have what was a killer pc in 2020 now it's outdated and can't play modern games that come out at same settings it could back then. I should have upgraded last year but since I play those games on console I haven't had to. I pad $1800 in 2020 to buy similar pc today would cost me $2600 or more. i dont know what it'll cost me next year with 5000 series.
Honestly, with the way things are going in the future I think the consul to keep producing physical games is the council that is going to win because a lot of people are going to want to buy physical games and if there’s only one Consol producing physical games that is going to be a lot to collectors because collectors are not necessarily this consul or that consul. They just love collecting and they need to have physical games in their collection. Digital games are fine but let’s be honest you don’t own a digital game at any time it can be taken away, restricted, and you have nothing.
Pc going to be the platform to play at the end especially if Sony gets crazy you can get pc and eventually always be ahead of the curve
PC has and always will be the best choice.
Indeed the PC is an open platform that is not controlled by a corporation.
@@FANTAVISION facts but more people will dive Into if things are not consumer friendly and will learn to build that perfect platform over time
Your take hits the nail on the head IMO. I wouldn't doubt that this was Microsoft's plan (or at lease they were already contemplating this potential shift) back when they acquired Bethesda and then Activision/Blizzard. They are becoming a software publisher, I think XBox hardware is going away.
Sad but true. It won’t negatively affect Microsoft nearly as much as it will affect us.
I dont think so. this seems more like microsoft gave xbox a chance and is now taking the controls away from xbox. employees at xbox are upset and the press event is being done by microsoft not xbox. they tried to drive sales during holidays with $350 series x and it didn't work, now microsoft just wants to get its money back
Switch is a secondary system?
That's a lie.
Nintendo's financial report that came out yesterday said that 2023 had 122 million players. That basically implies that the Switch is actually the primary console for many players, and the Playstation 5 and the Xbox Series X and even PC are the secondary console.
Mind blown.
I call it a secondary system because the big AAA releases normally do not launch on it. Also, plenty of people have multiple Switch systems while having only one PS5 or Series X. That’s like saying the DS was a primary system because it had a ton of sales. But you’re right, I’m sure many people only have a Switch, but if you consider yourself a “gamer” and want to play everything, the Switch cannot be your sole console unless you have a PC.
So many people I know ask me why I am hoarding old xbox 360 and ps3 games physically like a crazy person stuck in the past. This is why. They can't take them away from me, and I'll leave gaming clutching tightly onto the good stuff I have before I give into the digital future.
Hey man, I know this is off topic, but what kind of shelves are those that your games are on? Been trying to find decent shelves but having not much luck
I genuinely don’t know why I own a series x at this point besides backwards compatibility with 360
💯 with you man this sucks I was there when this happened to Sega dreamcast no one wins PlayStation 6 will cost people a bomb if it’s the only console
The only thing keeping Sony in check is the fact that PC exists. If they get too crazy, people will switch. Well, hopefully they would lol
This is an excellent time to become a Pc gamer every one
Facts!
Nah thanks
I made the switch to PC 2 years ago before starting uni and my wallet has been thanking me sense
@@godhimself1128 and with pc you are not restricted to anything when it comes to graphics and mods 😀
Imagine thinking Xbox bought a company larger than Sony itself just to dip out, no chance Xbox is leaving the video game space or hardware. Zero chance.
I think that there has been a lot of sensationalist and overly dramatic viewpoints from both the Xbox and PlayStation communities over the past few days. When all is said and done, a lot of people from both camps are going to be made to look incredibly stupid and should be embarrassed with themselves. This whole thing is just pathetic especially when you consider that there is a lot of people who are literally falling for and are choosing to believe in every little thing/rumour that they see, read or hear especially when nothing has been confirmed/verifieid.
The fact that Xbox has not denied anything and has just said “we have an announcement in a week” is why I made the video. This is a very real possibility that I would love to be wrong about.
@@FANTAVISIONI would honestly be careful with what you see, read and hear as you shouldn't take everything as gospel. Unfortunately social media has fuled the sensationalist viewpoints and has caused a situation where people are peddling conspiracy theories based on rumours which haven't been verified/confirmed to be true and also don't have viable sources to confirm their legitimacy.
I honestly think that in a few years from now we will be looking back at this and shaking our heads at the thought of how gullible people were for believing in said rumours. Not only that we will laugh at people/gaming journalists who made a mockery of themselves as well as the gaming community as a whole.
I really hope you’re right! But if there’s one thing I’ve learned from the games industry, everything leaks.
Well it looks like I was right. All the folks from both the Xbox and PlayStation communities who fell for the rumours now have egg on their face 🤣
It is bad for us consumers. As you said hopefully another company steps up and gives it a go on the console front
This is the exact same thinking that Sega had. It didn't turn out well.
In any case, Microsoft did this to themselves when PS stood up and said "this is how you borrow PS5 games"
I have been an xbox fan simce 2001. Still, i am, and I will go back to a gaming pc or laptop 🙌
All I need is whatever console the latest Zelda is on and something to play Forza games
Playstation had exclusives everyone wanted to play. Nintendo has mario but people (me) will buy their consoles for zelda alone. Xbox never had the exclusives that would sell me on the new console. I have a 360 and one and love them but that's what everyone I knew played on. If the worst happens and the Xbox is the next Sega then we've arrived at a pivotal point in gaming. We'll end up "renting" games until they shut down the server
The beginning of the end for Xbox was around 2010, where MS tried to go all in on Kinect casual stuff, including shoe-horning into every game. That led to Xbone, and an example of how competition is good, since Sony (strongly rumored to have been adopting the same always online, no used games platform) was able to undercut Xbone's announcement by keeping offline, physical games the standard for PS4, forcing MS to retreat from the policy, but fatally wounding its marketshare. Now, there will be no one in the "high end" gaming space to be an alternative, except PC.
I don't think it was the kinect I think it was the tv and Don mattrick
It started in 2012. When Xbox bought that canadain TV company. That's when the TV push started.
Its not about consoles, its not about gaming, its about MONEY!
I’m a PlayStation guy but honestly this news has me worried about several topics you covered.
Great video
Thank you! Hopefully this isn’t how it all plays out
Gosh. It makes me glad I heavily invested in the Nintendo Switch around when it launched. I see I made a great decision.
I was an early Switch adopter as well: the move back to cartridges was one of the smartest, most pro-consumer moves Nintendo has made - and they've been amply rewarded for it.
Microsoft should learn some lessons from that...
@@fuzzylogic3017, nice! And what games have you played already on the Switch?
@@stripedrajang3571 The Lost Child, (highly recommended to SMT fans) followed by Darksiders II, (I absolutely adored that game - I went straight to New Game Plus after finishing it, and went straight through it again...)
I'm currently playing Darksiders III, and plan to play Disgaea 4 after it followed by SMT V.
What about yourself?
@@stripedrajang3571 The Lost Child and Darksiders II come immediately to mind... also went through Mario & Rabbids: Kingdom Battle with my sister, (bought the Switch as a birthday gift for her in 2018; received the OLED Switch as a gift from her in 2022).
We went through a lot of smaller games as well like Mulaka, Earthworms, Escape From The Universe. She also played through Super Mario Odyssey, The Banner Saga, Battlechasers: Nightwar etc... etc...
I do agree that competition is good so no one has a monopoly but everyone is so focused on a competitor for Playstation but what about a competitor for Nintendo? As everyone keeps pointing out Nintendo is "doing their own thing" and isn't really competing with Playstation so then why is no one complaining that there's no Nintendo competitor? It's possible that soon we may start to get a Nintendo competitor after everyone saw the success of the Switch (there's rumours Playstation might jump back into the handheld market) but currently there isn't really a Nintendo competitor and no one seems to mind, maybe the Steam Deck and Rog Ally could be considered but those aren't really competitors either.
Competition is good huh? Competition gave us pay to play online. Competition gave us $70 games. Competition gave us broken-now-maybe-fix-later games. Not everything is sunshine and roses because there's "competition".
Competition didn’t do any of those things. What are you talking about?
@@FANTAVISION How did it not? Microsoft was the one that introduced us to these shit practices. And because there was no recourse, it created a new normal. When did them "competing" as a whole gave us more in recent times?
Meh, as a PC gamer I could care less. So long as I have plenty of games to pay that's all thatv matters. Just waiting for a PC port of Bloodborne and the new Stellar blade.
The regulators were so worried that the Activision deal would give MS to much leverage in the market. They sucked all the life out of XBOX and we now have a Sony monopoly. Great job regulators.
The PS2 killed the Sega Dreamcast. The PS5 will kill the Xbox as a console. Sony has been King of the video game industry since 1995. The PlayStation brand is a juggernaut that can't be messed with. Microsoft is finally realizing that. Now hopefully Nintendo follows suit.
Dreamcast died due to how easy it was to pirate its games iirc. It was actually selling pretty well until it hit that wall. Also, why the hell would you want a monopoly??
What? Nintendo is doing great especially in Japan
@@FANTAVISIONfor me every time I talked about Dreamcast, people
Told me they rather wait for the upcoming PS2. Dreamcast needed an NES like adoption to succeed and it just didn’t come. Sales were good, but it needed to be great.
Microsofts actions have pissed me off to the point I just packed my xbox up and put it in storage and I just wont ever play it ever again.
Honestly, the way it appears is that Sony and the PlayStation brand (as well as Nintendo) have been fighting for a very long time and have gone through some turbulence in which they both came out ahead of where they were. They both have done their homework and figured out how to survive in the gaming landscape. Microsoft could not and have been struggling arguably since the beginning.
I'm not really worried about PlayStation being the "only" company in the market, because it's far from that. Yes, they compete with Nintendo and yes they compete with PC & Steam. Both of these companies sell almost all of the same titles that PlayStation sells and each has their own exclusives. I honestly think people are blowing all of this way out of proportion, especially with Sony going buck wild on prices and no competition and I just don't think that's true at all.
Every console, gaming device and service is still competition for PlayStation.
playstation doesn't compete with pc. that's like saying kia competes with Porsche. yeah they both sell cars but not same type of cars to same customer base. a $500 console is different customer base then $2000 pc. one wants to spend less and sit on couch for 8 years knowing it'll play whatever game comes out at 4k. the other spends $2k every 2-3 years to keep up with games while playing at a desk. I do both, but I only use pc for games only on pc. if a game is on console id rather play on my couch with my controller.
I absoultely agree with you! It will be terrifying for the consumer if it will be only PS or only XB in the market. Microsoft had already killed Windows Phone, which decreased competition on mobile OS market, and that’s bad. It would be awful if we won’t have new fully fledged xbox in the future, I love both my xbox series x and ps5 (and switch), I really appreciate the experience each of these systems brings, it would be awful if it will be monopoly on the market.
What can we do about it? I believe to buy physical games as much as possible instead of digital copies.
"Exclusives are anti-consumer" next sentence, "why own an Xbox without exclusives?" You answered the question bud. I agree there needs to be competition. But, exclusives are not anti-consumer. They give a reason to buy that console. Nintendo is a much better example than Sony. Their IPs sell the Switch, mixed with price. Maybe Valve has an opportunity to come fill the void. Valve has their own IP, Half Life, Portal, Counter-Strike. They make a console that supports their Valve Index and Steam OS, there could be the check on Sony. I am a Playstation fan. But, I know every company needs competition. Valve could pounce.
They are anti-consumer because it requires you to buy a system just due to an exclusive instead of it being a better product. Because Sony has exclusives means Microsoft needs them too, but that has nothing to do with it not being anti consumer.
@FANTAVISION Then there should be zero consoles. Why buy one if I can do the same on a different one? I didn't buy an Xbox One because Halo 5 sucked. And I didn't care about the rest. I have a PC, now I regret buying a Series X.
It isn't anti-consumer. Exclusives have been a part of consoles since Atari. Again, why buy a Switch if I can play Mario on a Playstation? Consoles become like Blu-ray players then. Sure, they get cheaper, but so does the quality. Then comes the question of optimization. Unlike a movie, games need to be optimized for their platform. To make a decent console and make money off of it, they need the software. Their profit on a console is terrible compared to the software. Consoles are cheap compared to a decent gaming PC. To get the price down, they need software to make up the difference and turn a profit. So, consoles having exclusives make sense compared to movies and Blu-ray players. I have both Xbox and Playstation for their exclusives. Xbox's problem is that they don't have anything worth it anymore, while Sony does. If I were Valve, I'd be chomping at the bit.
It's not the end ! God you youtubers are dramic queens 😂😂😂😂 . They will simply put their games on all platforms!! Which is better for all gamers the way it should be!
It might be better for consumers if companies exchanged exclusives - ex: PlayStation gets Redfall and gives Microsoft Forspoken, or Microsoft gives PlayStation that Indiana Jones game and gets Rise of the Ronin in return.
Both companies and consumers benefit from such deals.
Nobody benefits from gaining access to most of those games you listed lol
@@FANTAVISION From what I've heard, Forspoken is not nearly as bad as it's made out to be, (see Rantan's review for details), and Rise of the Ronin is certainly looking good.
Anyway, it would be cruel to deny the PlayStation fanbase the delights of Redfail. 😊
(By the way, love the Metallica Master of Puppets top, though I'm more of a Kreator fan myself.)
Glad I moved to pc 11 years ago it's been so much better than console
PC is the best option for so many reasons
Saying something does do something... until shareholders start complaining. At the end of the day these companies are all here to make money, they don't care about any of us.
Shareholders definitely hold a huge sway, but shareholders didn’t make EA and Microsoft backtrack on their terrible decisions, we did. And if the shareholders did, it’s because they saw the massive backlash.
@@FANTAVISION I think there was evidence to prove gamers made a difference when there was a backtracking on that Xbox Live price hike... Until Microsoft did a course correction of their own and now has changed the Gold membership to be a Game Pass Core at $10 a month equating to $120 annually, and $17 for Ultimate monthly or $204 annually. So did we really win that battle? I think everyone got excited for Game Pass and what Microsoft was offering until we saw what was on the horizon.
Sega has been gone for so long. It is time for Sega to hit the reset button to fill in the gap.
If Microsoft drops back from consoles there may be opportunity for an electronics company to break in to the market. As long as a trillion dollar giant is in gaming like Microsoft, Apple, Google or Meta is in the console space no hardware developers is going to jump in to challenge them. Sony and Nintendo are far less threatening competition to a Samsung or LG etc.
I hope you’re right!
@@FANTAVISION Its a long shot but it seems if Microsoft drops their hardware entirely it would be too big of an opportunity for electronics companies to pass on. With Microsoft hardware gone you are going to have 10's of millions of disgruntled former XBOX users to build with who just want to "stick it" to Sony and Nintendo. A lot of the current "hardcore" Xbox fan base still talk about how Hiroshi Yamauchi of Nintendo "screwed" Sega with exclusive distribution contracts in the US back in 1984. Give it a rest! The man has passed on and has not run Nintendo since 2002.
Well then I guess I'll have to go to PC gaming since there's no way I'll give Sony any money ,I just despise their politics and they're not consumer friendly.
PC is the way to go for sure
This was always the plan, Xbox have been telegraphing this for years and with 100 thousand dev’s on salary they need to make money now. As for PlayStation, they have been more competitive than ever with no competition and the market will always correct itself. Anyone who thinks when that first game comes and Microsoft gets a massive revenue boost they won’t go full steam ahead is insane.
I've always been on PC but damn, one of my friends has been with his xbox S for long and doesn't speak English, there are usually hardly any games he can look forward to while PS has FF7 Rebirth coming up and Xbox's big hit Starfield was Starfield but other than that, Souls Likes and AA/AAA action games that are also on PC?
I think they will still make consoles as an option but not in a sense of a generational leap like the previous consoles. It’ll be a supplemental console not a sole console choice.
Now this might be a stretch but the next console could be just a pc in terms of buying games that will be in one store. I.e. if you choose to buy the game vs game pass it’ll be playable on pc and Xbox.
I also think they will bridge Xbox and pc with their services and interface like similar to big picture in steam. As a gamer, I don’t see this being a bad thing as at the end of the day it’s about the games and the experience of where these games are played at the desk, living room ,and on the go.
That’s kinda my thought, they could be small consoles like the Series S
why? they lose money on them and aren't selling, why would any company continue to make a product that loses them money?
I agree with your analysis except your you won’t own anything, I’m a PS user these last two generations and have always bought a disc drive machine as I only buy games on disc not digital as I can then “OWN MY GAMES” not rent them via subscription services, come the day they kill the games on disc is the day I stop playing new games and just go back to my old catalog.
That’s the way to go! Hopefully they never go full digital but I fear it’s inevitable
mean a lot of those discs are just keys that tell system to download the game. theres nothing actually on the disc. then the ones that do need day one update to run. I still buy physical but its not really us owning anything other then nice case and shiny disc.
Xbox and all the other consoles made me open my eyes this week. I realized. That no matter what. There SHOULDN'T be consoles anymore. The limit in the market. The fight over who can own what on what console. How old the consoles grow to not keep up with PC. The only way forward IS PC. Literally games are made on PC. Even if you can't play that game on a console. Wait a couple of years. And emulate it. Most of these games that are on PS5, and Xbox. Are on PC. Literally its the SINGULARITY of gaming. All becomes one and available on one. PC can Emulate the past. And play the future. And its Garenteed ownership. If the publishers try to take the games off of the market. Just go pirate it.
NOT a great solution. But nessecary if the art is lost.
We cant control Physical media anymore. Believe me. I wish ownershio on Physical didn't die. But this is the only way forward. If they are gonna push us into a digital age. Then we need to think about Ownership digitally. Files. We need to have the file we buy.
Literally the only way forward. Cause if one brand of consoles can die. Then so can the others. And eventually. We all be on PC anyways i think.
Don't care about competition with a company like that. You know the reason you pay for being online on console is beacuse of microsoft? This is the same company that charged money for valve's free Left 4 Dead DLC and couldn't fathom that they could give it away for free on steam and the ps store. Their legacy is worst than what the OUYA left. Good riddance, i'll take my chances with the japanse. They make the best consoles and games since the 80's.
The other companies followed in their footsteps, so how does that make them any better? I agree, it’s BS that they started the trend, but they all followed. No company is your friend.
So glad I play mostly indie games on my Steam Deck.
Really hoping this doesn’t affect PC gaming somehow too
The only thing I could see potentially being good about this is that it could open the door for a new competitor to come in and fill Microsoft’s shoes. But if that doesn’t happen, and it most likely won’t, gaming is screwed
Maybe? But I’d argue that Microsoft hasn’t been keeping the door closed for anyone to join in as a competitor. The door has been open and nobody has made a real attempt sadly.
I play PlayStation always have. Having said that I pray Xbox don’t go away we need competition it healthy for everyone. If Microsoft poops out I will be seriously sad.
Im still amazed how long the zbox lasted. I thought do they know whey are doing? This just because before they launched the x box thats NOT their market. Tbe orher problen i find is the gaming industry is too reliat on the internet. The whole net could crash and there would be nothing. I say keep releasing physical media as well.
Phil really F-Tha,Pooch with this one huh??
"Not the Xbox brand, but the Xbox console's end is near." - What exactly is Xbox without the console? A subscription service? That's Gamepass.
This scares me. I have an Xbox one x and was planning on upgrading to a series x. How much time do I have?
If they completely divest in the Xbox console, there will be no reason to get a Series X :(
I wouldn't buy one now, unless you can get a cheap used one.
@@FANTAVISION I like the series x. My brother got one 2 months ago and it's fast, still has a disc reader In case I want to play old games
I like it too and play it way more than my PS5, and if you want it for your old games, then definitely go for it. Just giving you a heads up that its future isn’t very bright.
@@FANTAVISION I'm happy with your videos and suggestions. I might consider using tax refund $$ to scoop one up
I've never been "anti" xbox. But, I will say that Microsoft has never once convinced me that I needed to own one either. Even with Game Pass, as great of a model as that is, they've never come out with an exclusive that is a must play for me. And sadly, this is why Playstation wins 3-1 in the "console war". Consumers want games, and that has been Sony's bread and butter, while Xbox tried to make the One a home entertainment system that just so happens to play games too. Microsoft did this to themselves, and the writing on the wall has been there for years. I feel this is chalked up to poor leadership with Phil Spencer, and Microsoft's unwillingness to listen to fans thinking that Game Pass would be the cash cow that keeps them afloat.
This is great news for Sony PlayStation. It’s a win-win scenario. Now Sony PlayStation can be the only console on the block. No competition to worry about. Everyone will own a PlayStation in the future, and PlayStation will be the only ones selling games and consoles.
I’ll never understand the appeal to all the single player only PlayStation exclusives so the fact that Microsoft is losing the console war this bad is eye opening
Maybe xbox might release their games everywhere else but only have bonus dlc stuff on their console/Xbox app on pc. It might be the only thing that maybe would keep them relevant. 🤷♂️ idk
I was told about this before and after watching this video I'm still shocked 😳. I own both PS5 and Xbox x series, so I guess no matter what happens I'm still keeping my Xbox.
Perfect time to buy a ps3 and all the good games ps1-ps3
I would suggest no one buy digital games for your Xbox anymore. Who knows how secure our digital libraries are after this. We as gamers and consumers are getting cornered bc they got rid of physical at the same time. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me. Well played big corporations. GG. The whole court case of PlayStation vs Microsoft was all a charade. Jim n Phil are laughing at us.
True, who knows what they’ll do with your purchases in the future
Holy cow the numbers for this video are great! Glad to see you still make videos
Thanks man! Always encouraging when they finally get a little attention
I think you should consider handheld gaming devices a bit more as competitors. I dont think consoles will completely go away, they will just become handheld consoles like the switch, steam deck, and ROG ally. I think most casual gamers will pick the convenience to play wherever they want, rather than what has the best graphics. I think that very soon, the idea of a console you plug into your TV, is going to become a thing of the past. And I must say that ReviewTechUSA made this prediction many years ago and I think he is right. I'm not a fan of subscriptions, so I hope they continue to give us the option to purchase the games instead at the very least
As a PlayStation fan. If Sony does this then I will happily stop buying games point blank. That’s the difference between PlayStation fans.
We definitely need to see another console if Xbox leaves the hardware space and I would say either Apple or Amazon should make one (ultimately I would love to see a Sega console make a comeback but that’s a long shot) according to the insomniac leaks Sony wants to price games at $100, imagine what the consoles would go for.
Now the only selling point about Xbox is if you have lack of patience to play their 1st party games and want to purchase or subscribe to game pass to play them immediately day 1 instead of waiting for it to be on Switch and PlayStation and their next console might just be a streaming stick not even a digital console.
Just to let everyone know, some games on Xbox are part of play everywhere, so when you buy on Xbox , you own it on pc too, it’s not all games and not even all first party game, which Xbox has no excuses. So if you plan on switching to pc, you won’t have to start from scratch.
“Ps will dictate prices now”
The PS4 didn’t have competition from X1 and Wii U.
Nothing changed 🤷🏻♂️
Strictly speaking, when designing the PS4, SONY had to bear in mind the threat of Xbox from the previous generation... hence their very conservative approach, (compared to PS3 or even PS2).
That said, the assumption that SONY will simply dictate prices is certainly questionable. Even if Microsoft leaves, there's always the possibility of someone else entering. ('The Theory of Contestable Markets.')
The last xbox I owned was 360. I still play it too and it was the best.
360 and PS3 era was peak gaming!
I think Microsoft's new strategy will be something like this:
1 - Gamepass will continue, because if the rumors are confirmed (and I think they are at this point), it will be the ONLY thing that keeps Xbox viable as a console, Gamepass would be the only feature to justify owning a Series X/S;
2 - I believe Gamepass will change it's current business model to having different subscription options, something like a basic plan and a "Master Chief" plan, in the first one the user can access the normal Gamepass catalogue, but without AAA releases on day one. In the Master plan, which will be much more expensive, users receive AAA on Day One, but this plan will require a subscription for at least 12 months.
3 - Perhaps basic Gamepass subscribers will have discounts for purchasing AAA games on day one.
4 - In January, MS already disintegrated the physical media distribution division, so we can conclude that there will be Xbox discs no longer, only digital. Also games from MS studios will not be made available on PS5 discs, so everyone will have to buy them from PSN Store and this mean one copy per account at full price, no more used discs market;
5 - Microsoft will never allow it's games on PSPlus, forcing PS5 users to pay for the games if they want to play;
6 - Single player games will be released first for Xbox/PC and then for PS5/Nintendo, they will be temporary exclusives for 6 months to one year;
7 - Games focused on Multi-Player, like COD for example, will be released at the same time, but of course PS5 players have to pay full price;
I agree when you say Microsoft focus now is profit, that's it. And the simple idea of a world where only one company controls the console market is scary. One think is clear, the market will change.
I don't think it will be a COMPLETE subscription model. I think they will take a more 'windows' approach. They make windows hardware but it's not the main place people buy windows machines.
Don't care what u think of Nintendo & Steam, they still fighting for my dollar & time to play games. In fact Steam now have labels where game is tested to run smoothly for steam deck & don't mind plenty of the clone which might priced just a little bit more than a ps5. In fact Steam is more destructive since plenty more platform can exist in it even at the Os level not to mention bootlegging Nintendo's rom. Keep up with the times man. Stop thinking the old rules is what dictate the future.
I like steam and nintendo, what are you talking about?
@@FANTAVISIONBecause u said nintendo wasn't competing with Playstation.
That doesn’t mean I don’t like them? I said they are doing their own thing and don’t need to compete.
The issue is Xbox hasn't been competitive with PS since 360. We are already living that life. If MS leaves Sonys number one enemy will soon become valve
Dude I have that same Metallica shirt!!!! Hell yeah!!!🔥🤟🏻💯
Except for those people who make the switch their primary like me
Nintendo may be delayed but they follow the money. Whatever terrible things Sony cooks up as the powerful console market leader, they will take as their own too. We’ve seen Nintendo charge for online and sell $70 games already.
@@FANTAVISION yeah Nintendo style I don’t think we’re going to see micro transactions in their main games
Microsoft bought up so many IPs, that means any new company that wants to join the fight, either has to buy up some company themselves, or create something that trends.
Or they just have to hope that Microsoft licenses them out. Which I’m sure they’d be more than happy to if there’s a market.
Yeah as you mentioned, I like Xbox and Playstation for different reasons. Hopefully the Xbox consoles arent on the way out. Cause if Microsoft can't compete with all their money, I don't see anyone else being able to step up and make something that competes with Sony, unless like you said Nintendo makes a Monster Switch, which I dont see happening
You got it....the writing is on the wall for the Xbox Gaming Systems
Sad but true. Xbox One was the beginning of the end.
This makes me think that exclusives were a necessary evil to keep a competitive console market alive.
Unfortunately, you’re right.
@@FANTAVISION we must admit we were wrong about exclusives and start asking for them.
Exclusives are good, exclusives are competition, exclusive are the soul of a console, Nintendo understand this, exclusive are the sole reason Nintendo even exist
I think people are sticking to this small point in the video. Haha my small point about exclusives is that they suck for customers because they mean you are buying a system for a game instead of its capabilities.
When it hits, it hits hard. I still think Nintendo is going to pull a fast one and say eshop titles will be backwards compatible.
Always watching your stuff man…I just hit 200, much respect to you and the OG Day one white!!!
Congrats man and thanks for sticking around for so long! Always motivates me to know that people have been watching for that many years.
I agree, I think the next generation of Nintendo will be backwards compatible to the Switch, but they still won’t be real competition to PlayStation unless they actually try to make a powerful system.
@@FANTAVISION I’m saying no carts just backwards with digital downloads…
Regardless, the end is nigh. And Thank You!
we will be still get exclusive first for a short time then after it's over switch or Playstation will get it
No shot but imagine if Nintendo comes out with a high powered console to compete again. Lol
That’d be amazing!
If xbox leaves the party, someone will eventually join in. Sony and Nintendo will get lazy and continue to drop the ball making it easier to get into this space.
There needs to be someone to jump into the ring and have 3 main consoles like Xbox originally when Sega became 3rd party
I think Microsoft is playing the long game. Remove costs on their end to buy more studios, and get everyone on streaming(renting). Maybe even buyout sony someday.
For all the old millennials out there we all remember this happeneing to SEGA. Seeing Sonic on a Nintendo system would be like seeing Halo on the PS5
If it’s only going to be PlayStation, gaming is going to get more expensive than it already is.
I don't even know how Microsoft and Xbox can try to back peddle this time. The silence for weeks was a giveaway something was happening. There's no feelings sorry for Xbox anymore, they've already had over a decade... and nothing has changed.