5:50 "Had it worked, it would have united Christendom against the advances of the Ottomans". Yeah, about that... Francis I was so not down with Charles V being Holy Roman Emperor, that he signed a Franco-Ottoman alliance with Suleiman the Magnificent against Charles. Suleiman helped Francis during his military campaigns against the Habsburgs. So the idea of "Christendom" uniting against the existential threat of the Muslim Ottoman sultanate just didn't happen at all.
France allied with enemies of the pope all the time, like the swedes and ottomans during the 30 years war. The french kings cared about anything but faith, unless they could profit from it
@@samueljay4632 they were indirectly... they had an accord with Frederick V and paid for or lent about 40k horse; not to mention the war with Poland was to draw forces away from reinforcing the Catholics.
I'm a simple man. When I see a random CZcams video recommended to me that discusses anything about the HRE, I like the video and subscribe to the channel. Bravo!
Answering the question at the end, I think that the first Polish-Lithuanian free royal election of 1573 was the most interesting among them, while it was a mess and the choice of Henri de Valois didn't turn out as expected, the creation of the unique political system of the Commonwealth was finalized during it and the Warsaw Confederation made religious tolerance a law. Plus, it was quickly followed by the second election in 1576, won by our best elected King - Stephen Bathory (and the two could be potentially combined in one video). Edit: However, not even I am so obsessed with the PLC to seriously consider any of its elections to be the "greatest of all time". :)
@@sebastianpijov8708 Yes, several kings liked the idea of the election vivente rege, as it was cancelled. John Casimir Vasa (Jan Kazimierz Waza) was the one who seriously pushed for it, but it was so unpopular that it led to a civil war and was eventually dropped.
Been a while since I've seen your channel, wow you've changed your style. I remember waiting daily your world trip with travel history blogs, good to see you're getting a big piece of the youtube pie .
Jabzy mate! I know words mean little in the scheme of things but the moment I become re-employed I'm signing up something significant to your patreon. The topics you cover are so bizzare, interesting, and well researched. Kudos kudos kudos. As far as interesting elections go, I'd say that held by the Confederacy and the election of Sun Yat sen in 1911 would be ripe topics.
It would be great if you wiil make a video about the election for the Polish throne from 1574-1576, which was attended by Stephen Bathory and emperor Ferdinand the Second. Many thanks for your quality content!
As for other elections, try 59 BCE when Caesar became consul for the first time. It gave him that power, conflict with Cato and the other senators, the land reform bill that helped to shift loyalties, drove up the populares in Rome in political fortunes for the intervening decade until Caesar returned that made Rome even more unstable than when Caesar had left, made Bibulus an obstructionist leading Caesar to do illegal actions prompting him to do anything to retain imperium and immunity from prosecution motivating his crossing of the Rubicon, and gave Caesar the three provinces with which to do the latter.
@@CivilWarWeekByWeek In addition, my party is the only party holding primaries for the leadership (last week) and the party list (tomorrow; whoever gets the most votes gets a higher spot, except for the leader and her personal faves. Everybody chooses five and I've gotten my five locked down). And we're choosing a new President in June. And the Palestinian Authority is holding elections as well.
Well, not really, that would have required more centralization reforms to actually reunite the HRE into one polity, which even Austria couldn't manage in real life largely because of the Reformation. I don't see how France could have done a better job of stopping the Reformation than Austria, given Austria's infamously superior diplomacy.
@Louis Garidel France already had the right to tax church lands, so support for breaking with the Church among French elites was much less than in German lands.
great video, just one thing though. Can you switch the layer order of the book and lamp? Once I saw that, I couldn't look at anything else! Sorry, old graphic designer habits, but you got a like!
It wasn't Maximilian who said that bit about Austria gaining kingdoms by marriage while others had to wage war. It was actually Mathias Corvinus, the king of Hungary who said it, or to be more precise: Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube, nam que Mars aliis, dat tibi regna Venus.
I wish you can do a What if Henry VIII was pick, we would then have control have England, all of the HRE from Germany to Italy you can do one where after Henry VIII
The Greatest election had to be the 1877 between Hayes and Tilden. It resulted in the end of reconstruction and the beginnings of the Jim Crow era for the South. This election was super polarizing and nearly caused another civil war.
UK was extremely powerful. Ultimately no European state except maybe Russia was ever going to be extremely powerful in today's world, given the World Wars it was always going to be the US, or maybe Mexico if they won the Mexican-American War, that became the world superpower. And China has been a world superpower for almost all of history so yeah.
You know the British Empire was the largest empire to exist right? The moment Britain was no longer attached to the mainland they did not have to worry about the affairs of Europe like the 30 years war which saved them a lot of trouble.
I'm a Mess.. idfk wtf any of wat u just said, but I did read a book about Charles v, years ago, and I had seen the Tudors, so I kinda picked up wtf is going on.
Charles was German as understood in those days, he was absolutely educated in Flemish (Dutch) culture and so was his entourage (a reason why he faced a major revolt in Castile, where he was despised as foreigner tyrant). Also Spain did not exist. It was invented in 1808 by Napoleon Bonaparte.
@@morganmcallister2001 - Legally speaking yes, of course "Spanish" may also mean "Iberian" (original meaning) or "of the Spanish Crown" (usual meaning). Actually, if you take the anti-Bonapartista stand, they'd never be technically Spanish at all, except the belated ones like Peru, because the Cortes de Cádiz only adopted the constitution that, imitating Napoleon, had "Spain" in its text, in 1812, one year after the uprisings began.
Great material, but Austria was not for the grabs, even if Charles lost the election. It was a hereditary land, still under HRE obviously, but not the part of the election title. I also doubt Henry could have won.
@@5thMilitia Yet at the time they both were part of the Kingdom of the Germans (and thus the HRE), so claiming he wasnt born in Germany is a bit misleading ...
@@positroll7870 Well, he wasn't born in a German speaking region. Dutch and French were his native languages. But yes, you could find good arguments for both statements
The greatest election of all time has to be the third election of Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt. He was the most important western politician of the 20th century who at the time wasn't sure if he should run for a third term. But if Roosevelt hadn't been elected for that third term then the soviet union may have lost to Nazi Germany and/or Stalin could have ended up in total control of the entirety of Europe. It's all alternative history so nobody knows for sure.
Basically, yeah. The official title before coronation by the pope was King of the Romans, before that it was King of the Franks. It was defacto a successor state to Rome established by the Pope because of conflict with the Pentarch of Constantinople, who had huge sway over the Byzantine Emperor, known at the time as the Western Roman Emperor, and since the Eastern Roman Empire had fallen, it was defacto the Roman Empire. Long story short, Charlemagne created a huge kingdom and the pope wanted protection and power it wasn't getting from the ERE, so he broke with tradition and created a second Roman Empire based in France. Sometime later the kingdom split into three, then two, France and the HRE. The goal was, in essence, to reestablish the Roman Empire, and since all of west/central Europe were Roman at one point as long as you were Catholic, rich, and powerful enough to buy the title, you could, In theory. In practise, though, from 1400-1750 it was always owned by a Habsburg.
@@Orthanderis why is it elective, and not why all states voted. what does it even do as the emperor doesn't even has any authority over the other members of the HRE. i say it's better to be an elector like Prussia that through concessions for it's vote got enough power to de facto unite Germany
@@nicbahtin4774 keep in mind that the history of the hre is extremely vast, lasting around 900 years. At the beginning, it was a centralized empire. At the end, it was decentralized to the point where the emperor could exert no power over any of the other states in the hre. Also, there were literally hundreds of states who existed in the hre, so they basically decided to let the strongest and largest states vote
@@nicbahtin4774 Long story short, it was the solution to a problem where Germany was split between 5 powerful dutchys, and the kingdom had no legitimate heir, nor did they want to give the land to the French. They were, however, all related, and sometime previously one of the duchys was deposed through election, showing that rulers can be chosen legitimately with the support of other nobles. So they just voted between themselves and the vote gave them the legitimacy they needed to be Holy Roman Emperor. Then the guy chosen died pretty quick, so they elected someone else, and it became tradition so nobody got too powerful. As far as the electors goes there was generally 3 spiritual electors and 4, later 6, secular electors. The secular ones were hereditary and are mostly made up of the successor states from the original 5 duchys, families, or traditional lands. Mostly. The religious ones are generally important spiritual leaders anyways who are elected into the elector position, and was probably implemented to give the pope a degree of control over the Holy Roman Emperor.
You should double check your dates for Charles V. What are the dates under his name intended to show? 1506-1555 are the years he was 'Lord of the Netherlands'...is that what you wanted to show?
Everything that happened back then changed the world for the worse, or in an unmeasurable way. The first definitely good thing that happened in Europe was the French Revolution.
@@plasmakitten4261 That's ridiculous, so much of what the French Revolution was founded on depended on events that preceded it. The French Revolution did not pull Enlightenment ideas out of thin air.
@@gododoof I never said that, I just said that the French Revolution was the first good thing, as in a single event that could could put as one point on a timeline.
It was more of a title instead of an position with power behind it. Charles either way would become Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy and the Low Countries.
Exactly! People always forget how unimportant rulers were in medivial times. There were empires by name, but only a few areas were actually controlled. And for the HRE, this was turned up to 11.
It did have power behind it, in that you could mess with all the other HRE states, force them to return any land they took from each other, decide who the electors were if one ever needed to be changed, etc. you just weren't actually ruling over all of that land by any stretch, although Austria tried really hard to reform the HRE towards working like that and was mainly stopped from doing so by the Reformation.
I wish all the history youtubers didn't do the whole "animated character that represents them" thing. I might be alone but it makes their content hard to watch. At least there's no lip syncing here at least....
I'm not a big fan of it either, but I also dislike myself on camera. I Should be getting that in next month. The lip-synching I mean with an animated character. I just did a relaunch and to be quite honest with you, I don't have the resources or skill to pull off much better at the minute.
@@JabzyJoe Totally fair, and I can see why it seems like a better choice vs doing an in person video. But imo there are other visual aids you can use instead for the video, even if you sometimes linger on them for longer than you'd ideally prefer. But I do realize doing those right can be a lot more work+time consuming as well
@@RaidsEpicly Well with this, this was supposed to be like the side project to the main ones covering 1st hand sources (life in Angkor Wat, Prison ship etc.). So most work on art was put into them and this was just to fill in gaps in the schedule. However, weirdly, they get next to no views, while these have become a lot more popular than expected. So I didn't really put much thought into them at all, but now completely have to rethink everything. So I totally get they're not great.
King of the Romans yet Germany was probably only country not ruled by Rome also the Germanic tribes destroyed Rome sonitvis surprising for me they would do this
Remember Abraham, Rome was a republic before my buddy Octavian took over. Local elections were still a thing though. The title of the Princeps or "first citizen of Rome" is reserved for what we now consider as Emperor.
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"This meant that whoever won the election would unite their country with all of germany and austria". Im very sorry, but i wont watch the rest of the video after that opening. Thats just wrong. First, "Germany" is a weird term when talking about the HRE. Germany would not exist for several hundered years. Second and more importantly, the Emperor did NOT control the territory of the HRE. Control was more local, mainly confederacies, Ducies and clerics.
I mean things were quite clearly headed in that direction as they had been in the past, it was only the Reformation and eventually the Napoleonic Wars that prevented the HRE from reuniting to form Germany. Meaning that Prussia ended up having to do it the old-fashioned way.
@@plasmakitten4261 uhm what? The only direction the HRE was going in the 14th-17th century was downwards. There were several wars between its members and centralized control was inexistent rather than weak. In the 17th century, there were even debates among scholars about which areas were and were not part of the "empire". Imagine! An empire so weak beeing part of it is a philosophical question!
@@CG-eh6oe The low point of the empire was probably during the 14th century for sure, before the Eternal Peace. But there had already been internal wars allowed for a long time since the Carolingian Empire fell apart, and centralized control was pretty much nonexistent before 1495, when it began to have a resurgence and could have pulled back to be a united polity if the centralization reforms continued to be passed. And there were debates about what was and wasn't part of the empire pretty much since the decentralization centuries ago, since if the empire was composed of member states there wasn't any one clearly defined "border", meaning that there was no de facto HRE territory, only a de jure territory, which is always a subject of argument.
How does the fact that the HRE had been instable for centuries somehow validate the point the video makes - which was that whoever was emperor would control the territory? You are right in saying that there were attempts to centralize it, but attempts of control dont make an empire, only factual control does so.
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How come I instantly knew what the election was for just by looking at the year 1519 without even seeing Henry the VIII in the thumbnail?
You did have to be a king though to be crowned emperor.
Can you do one about the sikhs
Well, when it comes to Polish elections the very first was one of most interesting, while the last election shows how week the PLC was at its end.
Germany was one of the most democratic countries in medieval Europe. There were seven people who could vote. How progressive!
Poland would allow about 500 thousand people to vote in 1573, and about 40 thousand would show up to actually do it.
@@robertjarman3703
Slunds about right. People by and large won't go out of their way to do anything unless you hold them at gunpoint.
That's 6 more than most other european countries at the time
Pretty sure the Papal States had more people voting on the next ruler.
@Luís Andrade Well about any country had a diet. The medieval period is far more democratic than most people think.
Charles obviously just spammed Influence Nation and Send Gift on the electors. France got jelly because they couldn't do that.
Ah a fellow man of culture I see
@@nekhlioudovbolkonsky2901 that inflation doe 😳
Really? I thought he was just spamming gift whilst also l trying to keep using “improve relations”
the fact that the swiss were considered separate from the foot and the horse really shows how powerful they were
no they were listed separately because they were located in a different place preparing to fight a different enemy
@@plasmakitten4261 And because they were hired mercenaries, as opposed to imperial or ducal troops ....
The election is also known as "The election of Chuck, Hank, and Frank"
This...
Is...
*GOLD*
Anything that's about Charles V has to be interesting.
Yes.
btw subscribed
Chinresting
Like his chin. Look at that! He should go for the world series.
Dude was the über gigachad of his time
I'm looking for the bribe mechanic in EU4, but can't find it
Just donate duckats directly to the electors to raise opinion, and you can become Emperor.
So yeah, it actually works really well xD
@@Ramschat If you are spending 50.000 Ducats on each elector, you are doing it wrong ;-P
Cap is at +25 opinion...
Influence nation, pay off debts, subsidies, and gift is just bribe bruh
@@Razgriz032 or just bestow imperial grace if you have the imperial authority to spare
Seems the Holy Roman Empire missed a bullet to the head by not electing Henry VIII.
How so?
@@user_____M A paranoid, narcissistic, megalomaniacal, tyrant as the most powerful man in Europe, it would be Hitler or Napoleon the prequel.
@@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns He’s not a cartoon villain, he’s not as bad as people make him out to be.
@@scorpionfiresome3834 he was, by the time of this election he had fallen into dementia
@@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns One of those two is so so much worse than the other.
I was Born in Maracaibo, venezuela, just imagining a "Maracucho" cursing in German is quite amusing
Y por donde andas ahora Ricardo? Todavía en Venezuela?
5:50 "Had it worked, it would have united Christendom against the advances of the Ottomans". Yeah, about that...
Francis I was so not down with Charles V being Holy Roman Emperor, that he signed a Franco-Ottoman alliance with Suleiman the Magnificent against Charles. Suleiman helped Francis during his military campaigns against the Habsburgs. So the idea of "Christendom" uniting against the existential threat of the Muslim Ottoman sultanate just didn't happen at all.
Rather Turkish than Papist.
France allied with enemies of the pope all the time, like the swedes and ottomans during the 30 years war. The french kings cared about anything but faith, unless they could profit from it
@@riograndedosulball248 The Turks weren’t involved in the 30 Years War, but the French did ally with the Protestant princes of the Empire.
Tbf, holy leagues and United Christendoms (not including everyone) did happen both just before and well after this particular attempt.
@@samueljay4632 they were indirectly... they had an accord with Frederick V and paid for or lent about 40k horse; not to mention the war with Poland was to draw forces away from reinforcing the Catholics.
Charles is like every EUIV player ever who just spam influence and gifts at the electors until your country went in debt
Charles V: I love ⁽ᴮʳᶦᵇᵉʳʸ⁾ Democracy!
2016 & 2020 : *We are THE MOST Important Elections Years*
1519 : *Hold My Beer*
I'm a simple man. When I see a random CZcams video recommended to me that discusses anything about the HRE, I like the video and subscribe to the channel. Bravo!
Wouldn’t Charles still have inherited of Austria even if he lost the election as Maximilian was his grandfather? The title didn’t come with any land.
Yes, precisely. Was disappointed he didn't clarify that.
Yes and probably would have eventually become emperor anyway, either by the next election or by launching a civil war
Answering the question at the end, I think that the first Polish-Lithuanian free royal election of 1573 was the most interesting among them, while it was a mess and the choice of Henri de Valois didn't turn out as expected, the creation of the unique political system of the Commonwealth was finalized during it and the Warsaw Confederation made religious tolerance a law. Plus, it was quickly followed by the second election in 1576, won by our best elected King - Stephen Bathory (and the two could be potentially combined in one video).
Edit: However, not even I am so obsessed with the PLC to seriously consider any of its elections to be the "greatest of all time". :)
One Polish king tried to change the elections so that they occur before the king died( essentially choosing an heir), but was unable to pass the vote.
@@sebastianpijov8708 Yes, several kings liked the idea of the election vivente rege, as it was cancelled. John Casimir Vasa (Jan Kazimierz Waza) was the one who seriously pushed for it, but it was so unpopular that it led to a civil war and was eventually dropped.
Been a while since I've seen your channel, wow you've changed your style. I remember waiting daily your world trip with travel history blogs, good to see you're getting a big piece of the youtube pie .
I like how you included Sigismund's weird little teeth in your drawing.
Loving the new formant, Jabzy!
Chuck hank and frank form an alliance to combat the growing power of Ulm
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As far as interesting elections go, I'd say that held by the Confederacy and the election of Sun Yat sen in 1911 would be ripe topics.
Keep up the good content 🙏
Can you do, "The Overthrow of Slobodan Milosevic (2000)?"
I really much prefer these longer videos. Please keep it up!
Summon the elector counts!
(epic music plays in the background)
It would be great if you wiil make a video about the election for the Polish throne from 1574-1576, which was attended by Stephen Bathory and emperor Ferdinand the Second.
Many thanks for your quality content!
As for other elections, try 59 BCE when Caesar became consul for the first time. It gave him that power, conflict with Cato and the other senators, the land reform bill that helped to shift loyalties, drove up the populares in Rome in political fortunes for the intervening decade until Caesar returned that made Rome even more unstable than when Caesar had left, made Bibulus an obstructionist leading Caesar to do illegal actions prompting him to do anything to retain imperium and immunity from prosecution motivating his crossing of the Rubicon, and gave Caesar the three provinces with which to do the latter.
And made Clodius tribune of the plebs, despite not being a pleb.
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Yeah more elections, thats what we all want. JK love the video.
You should see how it is on my end.
@@SamAronow Oh yeah but you’ll have lots of material for your election series
@@CivilWarWeekByWeek In addition, my party is the only party holding primaries for the leadership (last week) and the party list (tomorrow; whoever gets the most votes gets a higher spot, except for the leader and her personal faves. Everybody chooses five and I've gotten my five locked down). And we're choosing a new President in June. And the Palestinian Authority is holding elections as well.
@@SamAronow Things are looking busy over there especially with the PA legislative elections. Here is to better results than 06
The recent US election has convinced me that elections are a joke anyway
"Diet of Worms"
Ewwww, gross.
Indeed.
😂
Great video
Summon the elector counts
If francis I became holy roman emperor, it would probably recreate the carolignian empire
Well, not really, that would have required more centralization reforms to actually reunite the HRE into one polity, which even Austria couldn't manage in real life largely because of the Reformation. I don't see how France could have done a better job of stopping the Reformation than Austria, given Austria's infamously superior diplomacy.
@Louis Garidel France already had the right to tax church lands, so support for breaking with the Church among French elites was much less than in German lands.
1697 Polish-Lithuanian royal election is the GOAT election, you should cover it.
great video, just one thing though. Can you switch the layer order of the book and lamp? Once I saw that, I couldn't look at anything else! Sorry, old graphic designer habits, but you got a like!
I fw the longer videos
You could make a video about Election of Maximilian Habsburg and Sigmund III on Polish throne. Especially about "seccond tour" of those election.
It wasn't Maximilian who said that bit about Austria gaining kingdoms by marriage while others had to wage war. It was actually Mathias Corvinus, the king of Hungary who said it, or to be more precise: Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube, nam que Mars aliis, dat tibi regna Venus.
At 0:03 did anyone else hear "who would inherit the titan"?
The split vote by Henry makes sense. At the time he was still known as the generous king and he really viewed Charles as an ally.
STOP THE COUNT!
Stop the steal; Henry was cheated!
He wasn't a count, he was a king!
Sorry, I'll see my self out...
alternate history: François Ier elected Emperor... PR: we are reuniting the empire of Carolus Magnus! winning move...
Stable video 👍
What music do you use?
Bribes & Brides
Nice!
The TV series Carlos, Rey emperador show a little bit of this although a little like a soap opera
*soap opera
Can anyone tell me the title of the background music?
Sure it’s:
Darude Sandstorm
Charles I von Habsburg !
They don't do them like they used to.
I wish you can do a What if Henry VIII was pick, we would then have control have England, all of the HRE from Germany to Italy
you can do one where after Henry VIII
The Greatest election had to be the 1877 between Hayes and Tilden. It resulted in the end of reconstruction and the beginnings of the Jim Crow era for the South. This election was super polarizing and nearly caused another civil war.
Imagine people in 2521 making videos about our elections today.
Me, a bird: Mmm...Diet of Worms...
Pronounced very differently than the English word of similar spelling ...
if henry got the crown uk would probably be extremely powerful nowadays
yeah naah
UK was extremely powerful. Ultimately no European state except maybe Russia was ever going to be extremely powerful in today's world, given the World Wars it was always going to be the US, or maybe Mexico if they won the Mexican-American War, that became the world superpower. And China has been a world superpower for almost all of history so yeah.
You know the British Empire was the largest empire to exist right? The moment Britain was no longer attached to the mainland they did not have to worry about the affairs of Europe like the 30 years war which saved them a lot of trouble.
I'm a Mess.. idfk wtf any of wat u just said, but I did read a book about Charles v, years ago, and I had seen the Tudors, so I kinda picked up wtf is going on.
I am pretty sure Charles could speak german by the time of his coronation. After all he used to speak german to his horse all the time.
Charles was German as understood in those days, he was absolutely educated in Flemish (Dutch) culture and so was his entourage (a reason why he faced a major revolt in Castile, where he was despised as foreigner tyrant).
Also Spain did not exist. It was invented in 1808 by Napoleon Bonaparte.
Dang. That means most Spanish colonies in the Americas were only Spanish for 2 years before rebelling.
@@morganmcallister2001 - Legally speaking yes, of course "Spanish" may also mean "Iberian" (original meaning) or "of the Spanish Crown" (usual meaning).
Actually, if you take the anti-Bonapartista stand, they'd never be technically Spanish at all, except the belated ones like Peru, because the Cortes de Cádiz only adopted the constitution that, imitating Napoleon, had "Spain" in its text, in 1812, one year after the uprisings began.
Great material, but Austria was not for the grabs, even if Charles lost the election. It was a hereditary land, still under HRE obviously, but not the part of the election title. I also doubt Henry could have won.
Imteresting
Charles V: the most powerfull monarch from the Netherlands
I thought he was from Belgium
@@HateTaxesWASt The Netherlands is the name for the whole region, but we now have the Dutch Netherlands and the Belgian Netherlands
@@5thMilitia I didn't know that, thanks!
@@5thMilitia Yet at the time they both were part of the Kingdom of the Germans (and thus the HRE), so claiming he wasnt born in Germany is a bit misleading ...
@@positroll7870 Well, he wasn't born in a German speaking region. Dutch and French were his native languages. But yes, you could find good arguments for both statements
This is not democratic, this is legal..,
The greatest election of all time has to be the third election of Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt. He was the most important western politician of the 20th century who at the time wasn't sure if he should run for a third term. But if Roosevelt hadn't been elected for that third term then the soviet union may have lost to Nazi Germany and/or Stalin could have ended up in total control of the entirety of Europe. It's all alternative history so nobody knows for sure.
Bruh imagine if Henry VIII got elected as HRE
"Austria had secured power in Burgundy and Castile."
EU4 players: "This is where the fun begins."
We all still know the greatest election of all time was 2016.
Nobody:
Jeb: "My mom is the strongest woman ik"
Trump: "She should be the one running"
I'm not sure if there are any but maybe there was some interesting election in ancient greece or rome
P'rhaps not. Becoming involved in every single war involving the HRE could have drained England of money, resources, and soldiers.
@@synkkamaan1331 I think you replied to the wrong comment
@@acolyte1951 You are very correct sir
Another comment mentions the first time Caesar was elected consul.
do i hear a welsh accent?
Didn't watch the video, but I don't think he's talking about the 2016 election.
can foreign kings just run for the HRE ?
Basically, yeah. The official title before coronation by the pope was King of the Romans, before that it was King of the Franks.
It was defacto a successor state to Rome established by the Pope because of conflict with the Pentarch of Constantinople, who had huge sway over the Byzantine Emperor, known at the time as the Western Roman Emperor, and since the Eastern Roman Empire had fallen, it was defacto the Roman Empire.
Long story short, Charlemagne created a huge kingdom and the pope wanted protection and power it wasn't getting from the ERE, so he broke with tradition and created a second Roman Empire based in France. Sometime later the kingdom split into three, then two, France and the HRE. The goal was, in essence, to reestablish the Roman Empire, and since all of west/central Europe were Roman at one point as long as you were Catholic, rich, and powerful enough to buy the title, you could, In theory. In practise, though, from 1400-1750 it was always owned by a Habsburg.
@@Orthanderis
why is it elective, and not why all states voted. what does it even do as the emperor doesn't even has any authority over the other members of the HRE. i say it's better to be an elector like Prussia that through concessions for it's vote got enough power to de facto unite Germany
@@nicbahtin4774 keep in mind that the history of the hre is extremely vast, lasting around 900 years. At the beginning, it was a centralized empire. At the end, it was decentralized to the point where the emperor could exert no power over any of the other states in the hre. Also, there were literally hundreds of states who existed in the hre, so they basically decided to let the strongest and largest states vote
@@nicbahtin4774 Long story short, it was the solution to a problem where Germany was split between 5 powerful dutchys, and the kingdom had no legitimate heir, nor did they want to give the land to the French. They were, however, all related, and sometime previously one of the duchys was deposed through election, showing that rulers can be chosen legitimately with the support of other nobles.
So they just voted between themselves and the vote gave them the legitimacy they needed to be Holy Roman Emperor. Then the guy chosen died pretty quick, so they elected someone else, and it became tradition so nobody got too powerful.
As far as the electors goes there was generally 3 spiritual electors and 4, later 6, secular electors.
The secular ones were hereditary and are mostly made up of the successor states from the original 5 duchys, families, or traditional lands. Mostly.
The religious ones are generally important spiritual leaders anyways who are elected into the elector position, and was probably implemented to give the pope a degree of control over the Holy Roman Emperor.
@@Orthanderis
What about the rest of the HRE what stops them from lets say the italian states to elect their own emperor
When it comes to the Polish elections, I guess the one in 1733 was pretty dramatic because a succession war followed it.
You should double check your dates for Charles V. What are the dates under his name intended to show? 1506-1555 are the years he was 'Lord of the Netherlands'...is that what you wanted to show?
Charles V was Maximilian's grandson I think, he was no foreing
But did change the world for the better or for the worse?
Yes
For the berse
Everything that happened back then changed the world for the worse, or in an unmeasurable way. The first definitely good thing that happened in Europe was the French Revolution.
@@plasmakitten4261 That's ridiculous, so much of what the French Revolution was founded on depended on events that preceded it. The French Revolution did not pull Enlightenment ideas out of thin air.
@@gododoof I never said that, I just said that the French Revolution was the first good thing, as in a single event that could could put as one point on a timeline.
It was more of a title instead of an position with power behind it.
Charles either way would become Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy and the Low Countries.
Exactly! People always forget how unimportant rulers were in medivial times. There were empires by name, but only a few areas were actually controlled. And for the HRE, this was turned up to 11.
It did have power behind it, in that you could mess with all the other HRE states, force them to return any land they took from each other, decide who the electors were if one ever needed to be changed, etc. you just weren't actually ruling over all of that land by any stretch, although Austria tried really hard to reform the HRE towards working like that and was mainly stopped from doing so by the Reformation.
Lowlands are basically german, they would not have been considers foreign land...
I wish all the history youtubers didn't do the whole "animated character that represents them" thing. I might be alone but it makes their content hard to watch. At least there's no lip syncing here at least....
I'm not a big fan of it either, but I also dislike myself on camera. I Should be getting that in next month. The lip-synching I mean with an animated character. I just did a relaunch and to be quite honest with you, I don't have the resources or skill to pull off much better at the minute.
@@JabzyJoe Totally fair, and I can see why it seems like a better choice vs doing an in person video. But imo there are other visual aids you can use instead for the video, even if you sometimes linger on them for longer than you'd ideally prefer. But I do realize doing those right can be a lot more work+time consuming as well
@@RaidsEpicly Well with this, this was supposed to be like the side project to the main ones covering 1st hand sources (life in Angkor Wat, Prison ship etc.). So most work on art was put into them and this was just to fill in gaps in the schedule. However, weirdly, they get next to no views, while these have become a lot more popular than expected. So I didn't really put much thought into them at all, but now completely have to rethink everything. So I totally get they're not great.
Are you Hilbert? You sound like him.
No, he's Joe.
King of the Romans yet Germany was probably only country not ruled by Rome also the Germanic tribes destroyed Rome sonitvis surprising for me they would do this
Roman in political sense, but not really....just a name, Rome being the spiritual heartland.
this is 1000 years after all of that and the HRE did originally include Rome but yeah it's pretty silly
So taboo to heard that Elections were taking place during the late medieval times. DEMOCRACY.
My man's never been to the Netherlands
7 people could vote! That's not nothing!
Remember Abraham, Rome was a republic before my buddy Octavian took over. Local elections were still a thing though. The title of the Princeps or "first citizen of Rome" is reserved for what we now consider as Emperor.
@@seneca983 7 isn't rule of the people
Greatest election is 2016 MAGA
Your animation is bad. 1:33 to 1:36 what is that even?
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@@AbrahamLincoln4 ye
"This meant that whoever won the election would unite their country with all of germany and austria". Im very sorry, but i wont watch the rest of the video after that opening. Thats just wrong.
First, "Germany" is a weird term when talking about the HRE. Germany would not exist for several hundered years. Second and more importantly, the Emperor did NOT control the territory of the HRE. Control was more local, mainly confederacies, Ducies and clerics.
I mean things were quite clearly headed in that direction as they had been in the past, it was only the Reformation and eventually the Napoleonic Wars that prevented the HRE from reuniting to form Germany. Meaning that Prussia ended up having to do it the old-fashioned way.
@@plasmakitten4261 uhm what? The only direction the HRE was going in the 14th-17th century was downwards. There were several wars between its members and centralized control was inexistent rather than weak.
In the 17th century, there were even debates among scholars about which areas were and were not part of the "empire". Imagine! An empire so weak beeing part of it is a philosophical question!
@@CG-eh6oe The low point of the empire was probably during the 14th century for sure, before the Eternal Peace. But there had already been internal wars allowed for a long time since the Carolingian Empire fell apart, and centralized control was pretty much nonexistent before 1495, when it began to have a resurgence and could have pulled back to be a united polity if the centralization reforms continued to be passed. And there were debates about what was and wasn't part of the empire pretty much since the decentralization centuries ago, since if the empire was composed of member states there wasn't any one clearly defined "border", meaning that there was no de facto HRE territory, only a de jure territory, which is always a subject of argument.
How does the fact that the HRE had been instable for centuries somehow validate the point the video makes - which was that whoever was emperor would control the territory?
You are right in saying that there were attempts to centralize it, but attempts of control dont make an empire, only factual control does so.
@@CG-eh6oe I didn't say they controlled the territories, just that they were headed in that direction. I agree with your original comment.
jobst dies in 1410 after getting elected? maan!!! you have just spoiled kingdom come deliverance 2... don't do this again...
hey, you don't know if Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is historically accurate, it might not end up being a spoiler...
Here's another spoiler: Titanic sinks.
Your topics are interesting but the narration and voice puts me to sleep immediately