Pagan Horsemen vs Christians vs Jews - Hungary in the 11th Century | Hungarian History, Magyars
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Ye gotta consider splitting these in 2 parts
What is the real history of Christianity? From Constantine and sun god worship to the modern false church system, the deception regarding the Bible has been propagated from centuries of pagan influence and church lies. Uncover pagan christian traditions and pagan Christian origins. Who was Constantine? Was Constantine a real convert to Christianity? Was Christianity originally a Jewish faith? How did the son of god turn into the sun of god? What about the pagan holidays? What about Christmas and it's pagan origin, Easter or Halloween? What is the pagan origin of Christmas? It's time for the false church to be exposed! This short video exposes the deception of the church through centuries of church tradition. It's time for the false church to be exposed!
You should cover Kannauj tripartite struggle or Deccan and eastern India in 15th to early 16th century.
I am really impressed that you mentioned Hadúr. It’s the first time I see a non Hungarian talk about him. Good work man! ( just for context I am Hungarian)
It's just an invention of Arany János
I am half hungarian tought in hungarian history and even I have never heard of it. :-O
Fun Fact about Lechfeld, in the German Army Military Airport (Fliegerhorst Lechfeld) the Multinational Air Transport Unit (MNAU) is getting formed there since 2020. That Unit consists out of German and Hungarian Forces... History is pretty ironic and fascinating.
Great Video as always ;)
Actually the so called German call themselves Deutsch while the word GerMan actually refers to Hungarian which can be seen through various languages and how they call HunGarian,UGar,UnGar,VenGer,VenGri,WanGer,HonGri….
@@hondacbrification the British call the germans "german"
Probably misslabbled at some point, but it has stuck in all English speaking countries
@@jamesgoldring1052 British called Deutsch Han-Hun which like MonGol was intended to a be a derogatory word like Roman in our language due to which so called Gypsies are called Romani as they past affiliation with Romans.
Point is that Deutsch nor Dutch doesn’t call themselves nor GaL or Ger or Gar man and is word that they use towards us Hungarian as UnGar pretty much as others UGar,OnGri ,HonGRI,VenGRI,WanGER…man party much as MonGoL-ManGaL is used hence to call Ger Man tribes Deutsch in origins is not accurate thing since it refers to GaL,GauL,GaeL …people which is the reason why I have like my wife are related to various Irish and Scottish royal clans like others royal families.
@@hondacbrification yes yes, for example when the Roman historian Tacitus wrote about the Germani indigenous people living in the Rhine region in the (actual) 80s he actually referred to the Magyar tribes that will arrive almost a millennia later into the carpathian basin which is about a 1000 miles from the Rhine region, makes perfect sense.
@@sjm8510 Well actually there is a archeo-genetics as a science and yes we lived for thousands of years before the Roman and they mercenaries invaded the land.
Ugar,UnGar,HonGri,VenGri,WanGer…Ó’ghur,Onoguri as a name is not Deutsch-Roman related for they didn’t claimed or claim to be Ger Man nor are they Gal-Gaelic people neither is the word Kelt-Celt Deutsch or other such neither is Hallstatt Culture Deutsch related as Hitler claimed nor Mediterranean or Romans from steppe in origins in linguistic or other sense irrelevantly how badly they are trying to insert themselves with Indo-Jewropean and other such fictional theories in to such people-culture…
In Norwegian history we have a period from 1130 to 1240 that is known as the Civil War Era. A century of in-fighting between brothers over the throne, that then became factionalized in the later period. It ended after the successful reign and succession of Håkon Håkonsson and the defeat of the last rival claimant, Skule Bårdsson.
With Baglers!
@@TheAndrewSchneider well could you imagine a civil war without Baglers? It would probably be really, really lame.
@@Nogoodideaforname Agreed. Civil Wars without Baglers are very lame. Thanks Jack Rackham for enlightening me about those Baglers! 🥯
ive heard a lot about that period in norway, even saw Birkebeinerne, pretty good
I like learning about random political history from insert place (central eu) and insert time (11th century) and discovering it to be even more interesting than Game of Thrones. Awesome video Jabzy
Game of Thrones is actually based on English political history
I would suggest the history of the Capetian House of Anjou in particular the career of Charles de Anjou and the conflicts amongs his descendants, Louis the Hungarian and Joanna of Naples; or the reign of Jan II Kazimierz Waza in Poland, different kinds of internecine conflicts but equally interesting nonetheless.
16:42 the bit of cuman land you show makes it seem like they were tiny, that's very misleading as they had a gargantuan amount of land east of that
I do wonder if the cumans absorbed the pechnegs and kipchachs...
@@WarDogMadness The pechenegs joined us Hungarians and became todays csángó people.
That "Mediations" of Marcus Aurelius was a really good book.
Funfact; the Árpád dynasty never lost a battle against HRE.
What about the:
Battle of Merseburg(933)?
Battle of Lechfeld(955)?
Battle of Ménfő(1044)?
Battle of Leitha(1246)?
Battle of Kressenbrunn(1260)?
@@hgkghkhgkgh8378 holy roman empire created 962, battle of ménfő aba dynasty ..., frederick ii not hre emperor, and Ottokár there was never hre emperor
@@hgkghkhgkgh8378 arpad dynasty won every battle against the hre emperor
@@hgkghkhgkgh8378 During the Árpád dynasty, the Emperor Hre was never able to vasilize Hungary, although he tried many times.
I'm confused, is that supposed to be an answer?
Wow. Very decent work. Must have spent a great effort on this. Good work mate!
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS JABZY. pls make more. Also please put more year dates on the screen
Well the Byzantine successions were always interesting. But if I had to suggest one succession panic I would just say the death of the Valois dynasty during the wars of religion specifically the war of the Henrys
18:30, yes. Rozbicie dzielnicowe (feudal split) in Poland. Basically a Polish version of game of thrones, together with some Mongols
Stop just stop🙄 where ever there were thrones there were game of thrones🙄
Polish version🙄
@@47morlock This was really a mess, each state's lord wanted to gain control over all of them but for 100 years there was not a single one who could get alive with it lol, oh yeah and the Mongols who raided Polish lands 3 times back then haha (2 of them were repulsed)
@@galahad-history i think you should've look closely at my avatar before you start your lecture son
@Graf von Losinj yes, my point exactly! Posts like this are made but people without basic knowledge of history! Because if the knew anything about HRE or Spain or Italy, even Poland for that mater they wouldn’t be so proud of their basic statements.
It might be a bit negative but it bothers me when I see stuff like this.
@@47morlock You just sound xenophobic now dude, theres no point in rambling through internet with your weird worldview and arguing with everybody
They should make movies about these stories. Incredible!
if they did, unfortunately, they would cast hungarians with trans-black lgbtqialqklmnopqrstuvqxyz+ people
@@artygunnar do you still live with your mother ffs
Kyivean Rus was also a dynastic mess since Volodymyr the Great up to the Mongol invasion. You can cover them too
Vladimir the Great was Valdemar the Great a Danish King.
@@hondacbrification He wasn't danish
@@egertroos1691 Rurik is not a SLav-SLöwen word neither is UnGar,UngVar, VárAnGian
@@hondacbrification Rurik wasn't a slav but Vladimir the great wasn't Danish king
@@hondacbrification Hungarians aren't slavs but ugric people who lived in Today's Western Kazakhstan and Southern Urals along with scythians who were Iranian speaking people.
Nice vid Jabzy (:
As a half slovak, half hungarian living near Bratislava, this was very interesting to me. They never thought us about this in depth.
Because Slovak history classes trying to promote pro-Slavic history
They should make a tv series I would watch this religiously
Heads-up: there's quite a lot of doubt that any Khazars converted to Judaism. The origin of this belief is most likely just a Spanish polemic about Jewish history framed as a series of letters. If anyone in the Khazar power structure was Jewish, it was likely only the Khagan Bek, or the military commander; and they had been assimilated into neighboring Muslim Tatars by the year 1000. And they'd never reached Central Europe.
Your point is strongly corroborated by the lack of a widespread or predominant Turkic - Judaic language (Hebrew, Yiddish, judeo-Aramaic) exchange in either region and in the historical European J populations' extant literary record. Plus we have Frankish and Polish records as well as others strongly corroborating the history of Js migrating from Rome to western Europe and then further settlements eastward in later centuries.
When the Russian Empire acquired so many J's in their annexations of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Catherine enacted the "Pale of Settlement" decree to keep them ghettoized. Of course, if you had enough money or influence, the rules were "flexible", but to the average person, a trip past the lines required strict business permits and applications. Merchants saw business opportunities peddling at various major city fairs, as they were more prominent high culture activities of the day.
There are source material that certainly states that Khazars were Jewish
@@ibnyahud You know that Js steal everything from their host and wear and discard their old things, yea?
Klein is a German name. Why are so many Jews named Klein? Why did they steal the names and language of their hosts?
@@egertroos1691 yes, they chose it to resist the islamic and christian influences.
Great video as always! A video about Uyghur people would be amazing to see.
+1 for this and Dzunghar Khanate
and about the Tocharian people
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Great stuff your digging up here 👍
If you summarise history it sounds like such a mess everyone invading one after the other. You almost forgot there is years between events usually.
He should cover more economics and climate, population etc in between all the wars. give a fuller picture
I love this channel. ❤️
Based of my knowledge of J history, I would wager that Samuel Aba was what we would refer to as a "Karaite". I would compare them to an ancient version of "reform" Judaism. The rejection of rabbinic literature is the major "precept". It was a more popular belief around the Caucasus all the way to Crimea with a possible forebear (or perhaps coincidence) in the ancient "God fearers" of that region that Goethe wrote about. But certainly the west to east migration of traditional and surviving Judaism is a fact of family histories, literary, legal, and manuscript collections' records.
Mi soha sem féltük Östent hisz az Ö gyermekei vagyunk és egyek vagyunk vele.
great objective view as it was favt.im reading gesta hungarorum at the moment...
17:34 "Died chadless". The worst kind of death XD
The Ördög name most lileky comes from the words Őr (guardian) and Dög (beast or carcass). So it means Guardian Beast. And it's most likely a product of the mixing of christianity with paganism.
The Hadúr means Warlord, and he was invented in the 1800-s, when some poets realized that most legends had been lost, so János Arany made up some, and extended the ones in the gesta hungarorum
Ordog is the word for devil.
I've never seen any contemporaneous evidence that the two tribes of Kabars/Khavars were Jewish. There were claims by Hungarian Jews in the 19th and 20th century, largely as a way for them to be fully Hungarian without being Christian Magyars. It didn't work.
The Kabars were Tengrists and probably losers in what may have been a civil war among Khazars.
The Khazar connection is probably what led to the misconception then, as the Khazar nobility were undoubtedly Jewish (whether Rabbinical or Karaite we're not sure). The Khazar people may or may not have been.
@@prestonjones1653 We know that some Khazar nobles were pagan, Christian, and Muslim. There were judges for each as well as for the Jewish community. And the last Khazar state in Crimea was led by the Christian Georgius Tzul.
@@ronmaximilian6953 I think Hungarian jews were the Khazarian aka Caucasian jews
@@prestonjones1653 Khazar rulers were definitely jews but there have been sources that majority population was also Jewish with some ethnic regional people like avars or scythian descendants (oseetians)
@@ronmaximilian6953 No Khazar nobles were Jewish but the common population was divided because half was Jewish and the other half was pagan and Muslim. Only Christian stronghold was Georgia kingdom
Bella loved partying so much that poles, even today, have a saying; drunk as Bella. And it means what you think it means.
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Didn't Hungary or the Magyars took a big chunk of Bulgaria as well, not just Great Moravia?
See Wikipedia: The great morva empire was a mistake. Great Hungary: Hungarian Kingdom is own area.
I would love to see similare videos about early Bohemian and Polish history. There are surely some fucked up histories as well.
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England easily comes to mind when we talk about these Game of Thrones esk scenarios but you could potentially do one on France because they had their own Pope the English also had claim on the country and they played politics with all of the Mediterranean now the only problem is choosing when
Your map isn't too accurate, but it seems like you missed transylvania, the domain of Gyula (that's also most likely wasn't a name then but a title)
It was the domain of Gelu, a vlach
@@sebastiansuteu1829 Gyula, a Hungarian.
@@southernhungarian my name is Ionuț but a hungarian would call me Janos, i still remain a romanian hahha, same with Gelu
@@sebastiansuteu1829 His name is Gyula, Romanians would call him Gelu. And Gyula was a title.
@@sebastiansuteu1829 Ionut and Janos regardless how you write it, are both the same name with Hebrew origin, referencing the bible and the christian faith.
Gyula and Gyalu are of Turkic origin and believed to be the inspiration for Gelou (which is not a known name and lacks source or origin).
Weirdly, Gelou who is called Gyalu died exactly in the town called Gyalu (Gilau). Hungarians certainly didin't name a town after a defeated foreign foe. Other issue is that Romanians have to spellings for the same.
Gelou is as much a real historic figure as King Arthur, Buddha, Jesus and such. Many different individuals mixed together with facts and myths.
Other problem is, that Transylvania was ruled by Gyula, hungarian voivode of Transylvania, father of Sarolta. Sarolta is Geza's wife. Geza is Vajk/I.Stephen's father. Vajk was an adult in 1001, when he created the Kingdom of Hungary,, probably at age 20, so was born around 980, Sarotla around 960 and her father Gyula, ruled his territory around that time.
17:00 Ladislaus conquered Croatia, after ladislaus death the Croats revolted, then coloman recaptured Croatia*
It wasn't so much a conquest as it was buying that territory. The Croatian nobles literally sold their territory to him in return he had to bring order to those lands.
,, Similar video could be done on Polish history..." Feel encouraged ;) . Sad thing is, that we dont have much sources for so called ,,Pagan reaction", and reconquest of country by Casimir the Restorer, because it seems it was a total wild ride
Ok, this wasn't half bad, but I'd like to point out some details.
The war between Stephen I. and Koppány wasn't exactley exactly about Christianaty or Táltosism (Hungarian paganism that was mostly a mixture of Tengri slavic and northen non viking peganism, later of whitch mostly practiced by pre-christian lithuanians.) but about which type of Christianaty the Hungarians would follow
western/chatolic or eastern/ortodox
Stephen stood for chatolicism and the quick abbandonment of paganistic elements while Koppány took up ortodox Christianaty in order to get closer to Bizantyum and because chatolicism was more restricting (less neighbours to attack with walid casual belli because most of theme where of seme religion and chatolicism placed the pope as "chief replacement" aka the church had more power and influence with whitch they can curve and challenge crown authority while in ortodoxy the ruler is the highest rank in terms of sate leadership. In addicion the later was less restricting on keeping some in fact most pagan tradicion alive. In the end Sthepen won Koppány was cut to 4 and his remains spread across the corners of the cuntry as a warnning.
Péter was hated mostly because he was seen as weak, greedy and acted too much italian for the nobilitys taste so he was ousted in favor of Sámuel Aba who was most likely the head of a maternal offshot of House Árpád. Péter returned whith the help of Otto and the not so honly not so roman but at least still an empire at this time and retook the throne from Sámuel who at this point was also hated by most of the nobility because of tyranical and unrulerly acting such as forcefull landgrabs
and unprovokedly starting minor wars on his vassal landowners because of said landgrabs. Also conributing to the fact of his unlikednes was that in order to gain the support of the Hungarian lords he promised and actually delivered giveing them more rights and liberties and later trying to revoke them first by legal means and when it did not work by force (hench the landgrabs and inner wars). But Péter was still hated and the fact that he made the kingdom an effective bufferstate of ze Imperiállll Germans didn't help a bit. Fun fact he tryed to liberate himselfe from Ottos vassalige 3 times by means of war, but at first after some minor victories a stealmeat comeabout and they ended it with a whitepeace the 2. time hi won, but Otto give him some land in order to stay loyal and at 3. he complettle bunched it lost both teritory and got weakend.
Finally he was kicked out of the Kingdom by András and Levente coming back from their exile in Poland "riding the overhwelming tides of the pagan rebellion" and with the help of knights and warlords dissetisfied with the current system took power. They tried some reforms including the reinstallition of dual leadership of old times with the king takeing over most of the domestic affairs and administration with some military arrengement and the secundary leader the "fővezér" closely translating to something like lordcommander or highmarshall taking under most of the military matter including but not limmited to logistics,training,homedefense,
Borderpatroll organisation ...ect whilest addicionally helping in state management. However Levente wanted to bring back pegan tradicions and delegate more power to the lower nobility/most prominent warrior cast in Hungary at that time with which András strongly disagreed on as he wanted a Kingdom with highly centralised crown authority. Long story short: they got in an arguement about it and few days later Levente died in a rather suspicious "accident" leaving András as the soul ruler. He invited his younger brother home from his exile (he was in Bohemia at this time by the way) and nominated him as secund in command. With his help he crushed the rebbel lords and centralised power. Ze Imperiálllls tried to reinstall Péter to the Hungarian throne later but he died during the war in which Hungary descimated a large chunk of the attacking armyes hummiliating ze Germans plus the investiture clonfict between the pope and ze emperor was ongoing at tehet time if I remember correctly, aniyways the war ended in a total Hungarian victory and András in order to marry his son of to ze emperors daughter for ain German allaence and to secure the West instituted primogeniture again much to the dismay of Béla who in recompensation gained the voyvody of Transylvania, but later marshalld his troops and called in a favor he had with the Bohemians and claimed the throne ... for a wapping 3 years after which the throne fell on him and he was chrushed (accidents happen I guess, definitly not murder attemot). Then a still in his midteens Salamon son of András was crowned and imidiatelly had to face schiming wia his cousins László and Béla but they resolved it peacefully and waged a war on the pechenegs not the cumans humes with the kingdom fostered a good relation with. Time goes by Salamon dies, Géza inherets the throne for some years but dies after a short reighn because of wound infestation (he weared a belt with iron trohns inside as a pennance for ther almost attempted regiside against their young cousins the king.) and László becomes king without a children so he nominates Kálmán his nephoew as soul heir. László continued his war against the pechenegs succesfully drowing them out of the kingdom and impruved relations with the kumans, he also maied the kingdoms armyes more effective and streighend chatolicism while simualtainesly keeping ancent tradicions in the army and civilan life allive without the two contradicting
each other. After him Kálmán inhereted the Kindom. He supprted education had some bulding and infrastucture project continued his uncels polici regarding Croatia which later led to its annexation into Hungary as a semy autonomus Barony/Duchy thingi and descimated a maraudeing crusader army at the Bohemian border plus drove out the unruely horde of Peter the hermet after they attempted to sack a citys markeplace.
"Here, take my daughter.
We're good now?"
I mean, you missed one proved thing. Hunagrians are both Huns and Scyhitians. Árpád was a desceandant of Attila the Hun. And The Huns And Hungarians were brother tribes.
Yes.
Scythians were Iranian people and Hungarians are ugric people who lived in Today's Western Kazakhstan and Southern Urals
There are no evidence that Hungarians are of scythian and turkic heritage
@@hungarostudio Hungarians aren't Hunnic nor scythian. They don't match genetically. They are ugric. Hungarians carry N haplogroup which is carried by both ugric and Balti-slavic people.
@@hungarostudio Hungarian language is close to Khanty Mansi language
Thank you for covering Hungary!
Some spelling corrections:
2:58 Taksony Ny like New York
3:40 Táltos s is English sh
7:02 Koppány NY New York
I don't know why you didn't included Transilvania in the map, it was clearly part of the country after 1000
Otherwise it's a really great detailed video! Thank you
No one likes a know it all 😉✌️
If I remember correctly, Transylvania was so autonomous it might as well have been independent
@@luisricardolozadaamaya670 Transilvania was a ruled by Gyula after his death it came under the control of Sthepan just like Somogy or the land of Koppány. Transilvania had it's own voivod because it was far away from the capital. But all of Stephan's laws applied there, his evangelisational project and church building was in full force. The Hungarian county system was bulit here as well, it sent solders to the army, payed tax, and accepted Sthepen as king. By any matric it was a part of the country
@@luisricardolozadaamaya670 well after 1003 the Hungarian king also had a salt monopoly on the area and much rights. It was very autonomous and diverse, but not independent.
Transilvania is ROMÂNIA !🇷🇴
Rozbicie Dzielnicowe in Poland, lasting from the XII to the XIV century. Or XVII century Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, wars on every side, cossack uprisings, overall very tumultuous time.
Indeed
Funny that Hadúr is not mentioned as '' Hadúr the god of war'' because ''Hadúr'' means ''Lord of armies'' Had=army Úr=Lord, so his name is the title itself
Actually, there is a word for "handúr" in english. Which is "warlord".
'Could have went' is hard to digest
Poland history at the time was very chaotic too
and it was made into a great ROCK OPERA named "Istvan a Kiraly" you can check it out
Is Istvan the magyarized version of Stephen?
Igen! (Yes)
Hahaha, wonderful clip, but the names, gah, I hardly recognise them! ;-D
Me thinking how Serbia is not mentioned at all although being a Hungarian neighbor.
Jabzy mentions a strong queen Jelena of Serbia. :)
Who blinded everybody...
Well that escalated quickly.
Well we were good at it in those times… yikes 😱
Serbia was not fully souvereign state until the 13th century. It was a Byzantine vassal that time.
@@jozsefsandor671 Not actually very true. It was a sovereign state but it had very close ties with Bysantine empire. Same like Principality of Smolensk was it's own state but it heavily relied on Grand duchy of Lithuania
@@egertroos1691 Yes it is true. Serbia was rarely independent in medieval era. Most medieval maps show it max an autonomous territry of Byzantines until the 13th century. And let's not frget, they belog to the semi-asiatic Orthodox civilization. Read about it here: orthodox-eurasian-civiliazation.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-asianization-of-greco-roman.html
@@jozsefsandor671 Serbs are europeans unlike turks.
Do the similar 🇵🇱 history video!!
I’m at a place in my geneology tree where “lulach” and “Gyula II “ seem to want to be the same person.. any help from anyone studying the potential Hungarian/polish as the “tuatha” potentially?? Let me me know I have a few reasons to sustain suspicions
“Tackling” a book implies the difficulty involved in reading and digesting a dense &/or lengthy piece of writing. You can’t reasonably say, with honesty, that you’ve “tackled,” or “attempted to tackle” a great work of writing, when you’ve only read an abridgment/summarization, without the qualifier included.
in regards to religion, the cosmological aspect of hungarian paganism is the same as finno ugric paganism, on that note the shamans traveling through the worlds is similar to what samoyed shamans do.
A little known fact about the battle of Lechfield 955 ce. The Magyars (Hungarians) only fielded approximately 10,000 horse warriors that were led by Bulcsú, Lehel and Súr vezérs, not the entire army of Hungary.
According to historians the whole Magyar military at that time was around 20,000 so yeah they lost "half" of their battle harden experienced warriors. Hence they stoped all military campaigns after that for over 100 years as they only had enough horsemen to defend pannonia. (Ethnic hungarian population was only around 60,000 not including Slavs)
@@teovu5557
No the estimated total population of Hungary was closer to 500,000
Only the western located vezérs took part in the Lech campaign, so the total military might of Hungary was not engaged. The total forces at that time, would have been closer to 60,000. After Lechfeld no other country tried to invade Hungary for 100 years.
@@DarkKhagan Thats a high estimate and including Slavs of pannonia. I said "Ethnic Magyars" were only around 60,000 with 20,000 warriors and around 40,000 men,women and children at that time period. (Pannonian plains cant sustain 500,000 at the time nomadic pastoralist til they switch to a agrarian lifestyle post 9th century.
@teovu5557
Perhaps 500,000 is a high estimate? However 60,000 seems a bit of a low estimate, perhaps it was a number somewhere in between 60,000-500,000?
@@teovu5557
Btw, the Magyars were hunter gatherers as well as practicing a transhumance form of pastoralism and already using a combination of agriculture along with animal husbandry.
Here's an excellent video describing Árpád era Magyars of the late 9th Century.
Honfoglaló Magyarok
czcams.com/video/-iRHDfnQCJs/video.htmlsi=ewdGQp_UNjf_ZBXr
Haiti from the 1840 to the 1940 was pretty much a musical chair of presidents (and a few monarchs). Hell, I could say the same of half of latin america in the 19th century.
The title sounds like some werid Crusader King challange
The way he says books
I have a buddy who's spouse can trace her ancestry to Austrian Jews, Romanian pagans and Catholic Hungarians.
Well Sephardic jews (majority of European jewish heritage) were from Khazaria. Basically Sephardic jews second name is called Caucasian jews
Mediations?
Cool
There are two theories about Aba Sámuel. Pagan or Judaism (possible because of Khazar-elite-link) Aba family converted to Christianity. Although it is more often referred to as a pagan. In fact, he was not a real King, only the nobles gave him power and controlled him. According to our history, although it is possible that they encountered Judaism, it did not affect them. At this time they were fighting against strong Christian influence. Although religion was actually only taken up out of necessity. Although not easily, the country secretly remained pagan under the surface. But very decent work.
On the other hand, the Hungarian proto-religion really contained elements similar to Tengrism. But this could also be because they lived in an area where they believed in Tengrism. Although there are important disagreements. Totem belief, animism, was an important basis for both. It was light (fire) worship.
1 thing 4 sure Game of thrones did happened in Medieval Hungary.
can anybody explain why they cept blinding each other?
It "could have went". Surely, it "could have gone."
Oh my god your polish pronounciation is making be cry
I watched the entire 30 minute long LG ad and I have to say it was so creepy and dystopian that I'm actually ok with the climate apocalypse now
Won't kill us all... There will still be LG left for the survivors
@@brandonmorgan8016 At the very least I hope it takes out everyone who feels the need to use their smartphone to set their oven or washing machine
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Hungary is pretty much a timeloop ...
12:40, the Attila the Hun
Were 11th century Hungarian kings allowed to act tyrannical to their opponents? What were the restrictions and reactions besides the ones mentioned in the video?
Saint Stephen (the first christian king) literally had his cousin's body dismembered and his body parts put on display all over the kingdom to intimidate the population, because he attempted a pagan revolt. I think this answers your question
@@csaba9285 Yes that part surprised me because it did not have enough backlash that I would expect.
@@acolyte1951 what backlash are you expecting? There was no twitter back then lmao
@@csaba9285 Nobles, tribal uprising, breakaways, migration, conflict between rural and urban, conspiracies, faction formations, etc. I don't know what to expect but I was a little surprised that a Hungarian king was so powerful in what I think/thought was a decentralized kingdom at that time with weak authority from the king.
@@acolyte1951 Yeah, I just told you there were pagan uprisings, but they were unsuccessful.
"Then everything changed when the Fire Nation... Ottoman... and Austrians attacked."
Now that I think about it the world of Avatar is weird for only having 4, well actually 6 nations (the northern and southern water tribes and western and eastern air nomads are separate). Though arguably only the Fire and Earth nations and maybe the northern Water Tribe are real nations. Though it is somewhat similar to East Asia where there are far fewer states than in Europe. Though tbh a European based Avatar would be horrible since it would not just be the Fire Nation who would be attacking.
Wow.. That's a lot of drama..
Hungarian mythology is fascinating but sadly 99% of it is conjecture and speculation. We don't have much in the way of direct written sources or myths outside of literally just 2 or 3 stories at most. We can guess some elements of it based on medieval laws that mention certain activities like worshipping spirits of the forest, rivers, lakes, meadows, mountains, etc. We know the rituals involved dancing around the fire and making offerings to the ancestors by throwing pieces of meat and drops of alcohol into fire. Other sources are medieval legends which have elements that are foreign to contemporary Christian mythology. Also religious traditions and folk tales that are ostensibly Christian in nature but have elements or characters in them that are foreign to Christianity. The Virgin Mary for example has a very rich and unique tradition in Hungary and is venerated in wildly different forms both as a Maiden and as a Mother, implying that the Hungarian version of Mary contains elements of earlier, pagan female deities. She is also connected with the Sun as her celebration is connected to the Spring equinox. Linguistics also help, as certain animals have totemistic names which imply that they were revered in some way (bear, wolf, deer). Archaeological evidence also helps, there are lots of deer and falcon motives, tree motives and warriors are buried with their horses and equipment relating to horse riding. Bodies are also buried with everyday items placed on the opposite side of the body as they would be used in life, and lots of mirroring is going on with burials in general, implying some sort of "mirror afterlife" image, where certain things or perhaps everything is mirrored in some way. But we do not know what that actually means. We know there is also ancestor worship going on, as there are Christian laws mentioning sacrificing foodstuff at communal meals to feed the spirits of the ancestors. And there is one legend about the battle of Lechfeld where it is said that all the people that a warrior slays in battle will serve them in the afterlife. There are ostensibly Christian legends that mention God and the Devil (Ördög) creating the world together and being on equal footing. Murals of Saint Ladislaus fighting the Cumans are also somewhat unique in that it implies a dualistic worldview the way the king is depicted wearing white armor and riding a white horse while the Cuman he chases wears black armor and rides a black horse. Later Christian murals in Hungary abandon this and depict colors more realistically and to my knowledge this black-and-white imagery wasn't typical of Christian murals back then. But specific names like Hadúr and such are 19th century nationalist conjecture.
Uhhh no. There's nothing "pagan" about the ways Hungarians venerated the Virgin Mary, which could be found in similar forms throughout medieval Europe. You shouldn't just assume something unique/ unexplained is "pagan." It's sloppy history.
@@ArakeenArchivist Its higly accepted, that the Hungarian Marie cult is based on the mixing of the Christian figure and an ancient Hungarian goddes figure, called Boldogasszony (Happy woman). In Transylvania, székely-hungarians called her Babba or Babba Mária, connecting her to the Moon, like she is the lady of the moon. There were even multiple Boldogasszony, connected to significant roles, and the leader of them was the Nagyboldogasszony (Great happy woman).
@@schytoyamnaya9015 Do you have a source on that?
99/% sejtés, mert a "kereszténység" kiirtotta.
@@ArakeenArchivist Mi is így tudjuk. Vèlhetően az egyhàz èpìtte egyiket a màsikra, mint ahogy màs kultùràkban is, hogy a nèpek elfogadjàk a keresztènysèget.
As a finn, when i see our relatives hungarians i press like.
As a Finn who's also half Hungarian, what do I press?
@@haukka119 With you're divine heritage you can press anything you want.
Jos nyt vähän voi vitsailla :)
Aren't Hungarians more related to Turks than Fins?
@@theawesomeman9821 Hungarians are related to everyone in Eurasia to a degree. The main event that formed Hungary was the merging of tribes.
@@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 why new genetic research of Lageta et al. 2021 says that Finnish and Hungarians have Austroasiatic O1b1 M95 Y-chromosome, which mean that they are relate to Khmer and Vietnamese ten thousand miles away (?)
Why hungary didn't have transilvania?
Try pronouncing Taksony like if you would say Taksonia, but then leave out the last a. I couldn't think of any good english examples other then that. Oh yeah i could. The Ny is the same sound as the N in new
Same with Koppány
Can you talk about the exploits of the infamous...
DAN.
DAN III.
Maybe Roger de Flor and the Catalan Company's story in the Byzantine Empire and Greece, intrigue, mercenaries, treason, revenge and conquest, all the ingredients of a great story.
When are the rest of the African series coming out? Not trying to seem impatient or anything
Stephen's claim to the throne was based on western succession customs, so he would've come to buy into the western ideology, including Catholicism, as its doctrine was in his interest.
He was catholic long before the succession crisis.
He was catholic long before the succession crisis.
@@milantoth6246 : Succession crises are generally seen coming a long time before they hit.
Literal fanny flutters for the way you pronounce 'books: 😅😅
So jel of your accent... My northern sangronian is so dull in comparison 😩
I'm gna take a stab that youre a mackem 🤔
❤️ The vids. Thanks for the content
Southern Italy during this same time was also batshit, albeit without a throne (initially)
"Mieszko" sounds like MieSHko (SH like in SHare or SHame) :)
What does it mean?
14:30 didnt mind and died shortly afterwards sounds like he didnt have a .choice . A better way of saying this was the records show he was pagan had very little support and died after. That way your not prescribing motive to a historical with evidence of what his motives were. Also you could have left the khazar bit as a foot to berifly and covered it as you did as a possable origin of aba. (Even tho he was more likly eurasian turkic) not put it in the title..
History was sometimes as whacky as a playthrough of Crusader Kings 2
Táltos is like Taltosh. Koppány is not Koppani, NY is a single letter, so more like Koppagn (like in lasaGNe).
Historical Hungarian A: breathes
Historical Hungarian B: BLIND HIM!!!!
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Cyril and Methodius developed another alphabet, dubbed "Glagollic script" and one of their disciples (Kliment) developed the Cyrillic alphabet, which was borrowed by the Russians (Kievan Rus) a century later...
Not sure that the title(Horsemen vs Christians vs Jews) reflects the history of the Magyars. This would imply that all these players were on an equal footing. From what I have read about the history of Magyarország, this is really incorrect. It was definitely not a shootout in "The Good , The Bad and The Ugly".
I would say the sassanid empire when the arab invasions started. They had around 8 monarch in like a year or two. It was an complete mess
Afghanistan is about the only country I can think of with a comparable history of chaos 😳
You pronounce book like my grandma from leitrim 😂😂😂😂
We ll there are many issues with this video, but the biggest is the map, which is so wrong. It does not resemble even from far to Hungary's borders from that period.
Nationalists of today will have you believe that their country would be the greatest in the world, if not for infighting and internal 'traitors'. This constant battling of monarchs and would-be kings has been happening for ages everywhere. Which is why world history should be taught in every school and take up much of the curriculum. In Greece, it's a persistent historic myth that infighting is endemic, and we would be the greatest nation if only we wouldn't fight amongst ourselves.
Good Job. Even though you pronounced maybe 2 names right. Lol
The Romanian principalities were quite chaotic
Oh, I wonder how it will turn out for this character...
"...he was blinded and died of torture..."
dammit not again.
One chap, Bela, became an alcoholic and died.
@@petergarrone8242 what a lucky guy:P
Do history of the Serbs
Samuel lost the battle because he was deceived by the Hungarian nobles
What a weird time in hungarian history tbh
16:50 I, in fact, did not die on that day, I was merely wounded and I made a tactical withdrawal from public life. I am continuing to conspire to re-take the throne of Hungary, which is rightfully mine. Soon I will show that bastard Ladislaus who the true King of Hungary is
Remember, there was no such thing as "Pagan" from the POV of non -Christians. That was a early Christian term (from Latin "paganus" or "rustic") for anyone who wasn't Judeo-Christian (not necessarily including heretical Christians, who were also apostate but were considered a slightly different class from "pagan"... Arians, Novitians, Apotactians, etc.)
I know this is rather obvious but I think it's a good thing to keep in mind from our view in this period where Christianity has "won"
Thank God Christ won.
Cope harder noob