Hydraulic jack- 2050-7947 Rhombic type jack-785-1643 Plastic jack-2005-4779 Old jack-2019-16630 Mechanical jack-2118-14004 Hydraulic jack on wheels-1268-1709
By far my favorite test! This is an actual usable test for the safety of others. Thank you so much! (From a guy that has been under a lot of vehicles with many different types of jacks.)
No surprise at all that the old one did way better than any of the others, but if they had the contact surface loaded as it was designed, it would have held on way longer than it did.
That old jack...it could have been passed down through generation after generation, it was on its journey to fulfill its destiny when fate brought it to CHP and that, as the records show, was the end of the line. Life cut short for our entertainment. I am not sure how I feel about that.
I had a mechanical jack for years from on old Datsun. I used that for years. I didn't realize how it worked until you broke it and it looks like a differential inside with a ring and pinion gear set. Thanks for educating me.
you need to do the MATH 2.2 KG to 1 Pound. 2000 Pounds to 1 ton. I'm thinking this math was off on the ratings. so his 2000 KG was close but not spot on it's 2000 KG is about 2.2 tons.
@@chuckholmes2075 the video says it's 16630 kg. Why did you need to convert it to pounds? I said the old jack is able to hold more than 10 tons and 16 tons is more than 10 tons. I didn't understand your point of wanting to correct me
Excellent testing , the old stuff is definitely amazing I’m shocked at how good the threads on the plastic one were , if the body was thicker it would probably have done better
I feel like the old one would have done better if they'd shaved the top flat so that the pressure would have stayed even from the start. Having one side break off introduced some shear that caused early failure IMO, and yeah. the plastic one surprised me. I figured it'd be right down there with the scissor jack.
@@hdj81Vlimited Any idea what the model number is? I'd guess it was glass reinforced nylon - same stuff power tool makers use. Has similar strength to cast aluminum.
Make sure you use jack stands under anything you plan on climbing under. And never use cement blocks, if anything use blocks of wood like 4x4’s or 6x6’s.
Or at the very least, make a block sit with the holes vertical! That's two sides and three webs holding the weight up, but only the three webs like on it's side. I just cringe when I see them sideways like that!!! There's more than one reason they sit in a foundation the way they are built. Plus making sure there aren't any stress points on concrete helps a lot, like a wood block under and above it. But yeah, still a very bad idea.
@rukamukus . . . it's good that you pointed out about not using cement blocks. While the blocks can be heavy, dropping them from a height of a meter or so onto pavement can result with them to fracture. Yet, YT has videos where people try to impress viewers on the power of a firearm with a bullet breaking a cement block apart; as the same can be done with a carpenter's hammer.
Ok, I must say I'm impressed by the plastic jack. I knew the sissor one was going to be first to fail, but surprised the plastic jack did better than the sheet metal floor jack.
@@rmr5740 Well, I wouldn't trust taking off a tire using a plastic jack. Lol. There is something to be said about steel. That said, I was simply impressed by it, still would never use it personally or buy it.
3:57 Nominal force test 4:52 Rhombic type jack 6:59 Plastic jack 8:14 Old jack (1970) 8:53 Mechanical jack 9:30 Hydraulic jack on wheels 10:15 Strength test
una lástima que haya destrozado el viejo gato no merecía ese final debio ser Restaurado a su gloria original y continuar sirviendo otros 500 años mas fue triste ver como lo destruiste..!!
In defense of the old jack, the wings were not ever intended to bear the weight. When they broke, the stress was no longer vertical and the jack failed quickly. Had the press been directed on the center of the jack, that thing would have probably have out lasted the press itself.
In an actual overload situation that plastic jack is by far the most dangerous since the housing is the first part to fail allowing the load to suddenly fall - That would kill.
@@Senkino5o I don't know. Those rhomboid ones are horrible and pathetic.. In a real situation definitely dangerous. Too close to failing under the weight of a normal car.
@@AnotherVexium Its roughly the same size as most 1350kg trolley jacks you can buy at most tool stores, just really cheaply constructed. I knew it wasn't a 2t jack its nowhere near big enough.
@@toolmanslaton4975 and what Toyota used if you know that huge car company my dad was a trainer or mechanic or some thing and they use that kind of pump jack I mean they use the huge hydraulic things to lift the entire car where you can walk under it but yeah they can hold up a big car like an SUV if used properly when I suspect is this guy didn’t use it properly instead of raising it slightly he left it all the way down much force into a port that’s not supposed to have that much force on it instead of going down through the joint where it has thicker metal and is designed to handle it
Seriously impressed by that red mechanical jack holding up to 7 times the rated value. The scissor jack and trolley should be investigated for not meeting the rated value, they were terrible.
I am honestly surprised at the performance of the roller jack. I thought it would be for sure the best one. Well, I guess it's time to go out and buy one of those little mechanical jacks. That did surprisingly well, just shy of 14 times the maximum rated load.
That roll jack was a very sorry excuse for a roll jack if you ask me, it honestly behaves like it was made in china. My $20 American made roll jack has served me well for years now.
If you'd used these much before you would know that there is no 2ton rated scissor jack, those things are good for lifting up an axle on a passenger car and nothing more.
@@prakhargahlot9373 you must not be lifting very high then, cause the point where it was in the video is how far it would be extended before it even makes contact on a lot of vehicles 🤦♂️
Of course that's going to make a difference turns out if you asked for a little physics you will find using a length of something as a support prop will support a much higher weight as opposed to using it as a lever support
I have a 2 ton hydraulic jack on wheels like that orange one that I bought at autozone for $20 20 years ago when I was 18 years old. I used it for every oil change and brake job I did on my car and some of my friend's cars up until about 3 years ago when I replaced it. it still works and I keep it around as a backup in case it's needed. I also used that thing up on blocks to lift the front end of a ford F-250 once to get it up on stands. No doubt it would have done better than the one in this video. But the one in this video reminds me of the one I originally bought trying to replace my old jack about 10 years ago. That one had the hydraulics fail on it the 3rd time I used it trying to lift up my honda I had at the time and the store wouldn't take it back.
C'est mon test préféré ! C'est un véritable test utile pour la sécurité de tous. Merci beaucoup! (D'un mécanicien qui a passé son temps à utiliser de nombreux types de cric différents.)
Given that the cheapest jack that was made out of plastic preformed that well was impressive. I'd probably go with the 60$ mechanical jack. Really tough.
What most people call plastic is really complicated compared to metals. It's a lot of variation in polymers structure. The wires made of these polymers can easily be orders of magnitude stronger then metals by weight and couple of times stronger by volume. The difficulty is to arrange the polymers to match the load when you have complex shapes.
@@georgeyoutube7580I think new jacks are all made in China and the manufactures are squeezed on cost. The plastics used here are not the carbon fibre in a Ferrari driver tub.
These Ys are for preventing the screw jack from snapping not for a load! Put any material strong enough to fill the gap then tighten it hard! And the scissors jack try with the hook past the ring so the bar is one half in your both hands, then apply more force. If the bar bends put something stronger in same manner! 800 is enough for most cars tyre job!
Basically, don't trust any jack made from pressed steel... it was also a little unfair on that cast iron jack in that it's designed to support an axle or a chassis rail, and not have the force transmitted onto the tops of that cradle casting. Once those broke off, it performed admirably.
Yes, not designed to support the load on the ears of the head. As soon as one ear failed, the pressure was skewed out of alignment causing the main shaft to bend. Still not bad for a 50 year old jack.
I actually felt sorry for the old jack. At least it made a cool exit. Those things are hard to find, cause nobody wants to get rid of them. Some of those manufacturers should get sued. The ultimate breaking capacity should have a safety factor of at least 2.5 to 3.0 of its rated value. The scissor jack didn't even have half of its rated capacity. It would have been even less in its lowest configuration due to the geometry of the arms. Impressed with the plastic jack.
The 1970s jack I think would have went further before breaking only because the press couldn’t press directly down in the center like the frame if a car would and instead broke the ears off it.
Very interesting. Knew a scissor jack wouldn't be very strong, but looks like they're almost a waste of money. Same with the plastic one. Thanks for the video.
I don’t think the green jack was properly cranked. You won’t get the proper leverage with the crossbar extension. You had to feed the curved bar into the loop further and crank it directly almost like a crowbar.
@daveyjones I fully agree with you. It's all about mechanical advantage. Obviously a mechanical screw jack potentially will produce the highest load. When he tested the green rhombic jack he stopped halfway through the test then gave up easily. It would have produced more load with more effort. Plus it will produce greater load, the higher it's extended ! The law of the lever. Bear in mind almost every car has this type supplied for flat tyre replacement and only needs to provide about a quarter of the vehicle load- perfectly capable for any vehicle they're designed for.
that fat red one is a wormgear jack. i have two different ones and they never stop amazing me how much they really can take. basically as long as you manage to turn the drive shaft it will manage to lift
Ну вообще то это должно быть подсудным делом, если написано 2т а домкрат ломается на 1600. И сажать производителей надо раньше, чем кого то раздавит машиной которую им поднимут.
Fyi, a socket and impact gun with the green jack makes for effortless up and down. Screw the metal handles. I use this jack all the time on the cars I work on in my driveway.
the best part about the bottle jacks is even if they fail they still give you that little bit of room, which doesn't matter much if you have tires but can still help, especially without tires on. Might save your life.
When changing tyres/working with the wheel off slide the wheel under the body of the car near where your working, if everything fails the car will sit on it and give you some clearance to get out/breath.
@@paidwitness797 Ye I am aware of that. I was just thinking about if for some reason you had a wheel off and didn't have a wheel and was under the car. it would be an odd situation to get into but I have seen it lol
This is an awesome test. I have each of these styles of jacks. Not only seeing when they fail but how they fail will have me remembering bout this test when I reach for a jack… good stuff.
Fantastic and useful test! Well, I guess (rather surprisingly to me) hydraulic and mechanical jacks turned out to be overall the best ones (though they all have applications and deisng purposes).
Just as a fyi 2000 lb is 1 ton. 4000 lb is 2 tons. The jacks were tested to 1/2 the stated capacity provided the measurement shown is pounds and not Kg. Also keep in mind the cast iron Jack is designed to support a car by the axel. It isn't designed to take load in that way.
Well if you need to do that, side of road, make sure you don't put any of your body extremities under the vehicle. Also watch out for those mirrors, if vehicle drops the wing mirror can hit you in the head!
I had my money on the old ratchet jack with the bottle jack in second. The one weak spot on the old jack is the cast iron “wings”. I was surprised that the floor jack couldn’t even make it’s stated lift weight let alone take 4 tons, which is the minimum safety margin for a lifting machine.
True enough but only under ideal conditions, table is flat and level, press comes down slowly and straight. Can't say I'd wanna do a road side tire change though, every car going by shakes yours and the jack gets side pressure, uneven ground. Lotta possible dangers in real world applications, but yes it was still impressive for a lab rat test.
@@Cheepchipsable Well maybe you would, have at it. My comment didn't have anything to do with vehicle size, I was referring to imperfections in ground and environment. Anybody who has changed a tire roadside knows that when another car passes by you the vehicle shakes, now compound that with an uneven ground and even a Miata could conceivably be heavy enough to cause jack failure. Similar to a crane or forklift with a load being lifted straight up they can do a bunch of weight measured in tons but put a little side strain and they collapse under pressures measured in thousands. You go on with it, I'll stick to something a little more durable.
The only issue here with the testing is the thrombic ha k and trolley jack were tested at their weakest lifted height. Both jack gain exponentially higher resistance the higher the jack is lifted. Personally i prefer lift with a trolley high enough to pop it on an axle stand then switch to a bottle jack.
@@Tymopta thats not how their works though, The weight is multiplied by height and the strength is increased by the angle created by that height. You’re not lifting 2t when jacking a car up on one side, weight is transferred.
@@cloric1 Complete rubbish. It's nothing to do with "spread of weight", whatever you mean by that. Neither jack was able to support two a two ton load. All the others did it with a very considerable safety margin. It's entirely irrelevant whether they were tested at their weakest configuration or not. If they are rated to support two tons, without qualification, then they must do so, with a safety margin, in all stages of lift. If what you mean is that you can use one of those jacks to life the corner of a two ton vehicle to change a wheel then, maybe. But that's not what a load rating means. Perhaps you ought to ask yourself, if all the other jacks managed to support a two ton load with ease, then they are clearly a lot stronger and a lot safer. This is pathetic. If they cannot support 2 tons through their entire range, then they should be rated at what they can support, which on this evidence is less than 1 ton with virtually no safety margin.
Putting the strain on the two fork tips of the Plastic- and Old Jack is unfair. These forks are there to prevent slipping off the load and not to pick up the load. It would have been correct to put a suitable round or square bar in the fork and put the load on the bar.
scissor jacks was/are underrated. 20v impact and proper socket head/weld-adapt will lift a car or truck easily, and quicker than the rest, with less sweat, on a sweaty day. Throw away the death wand shepherds hook, and weld a bolt head on the end.
It's frightening to see how little that trolley jack took for it to fail, I've been using them for years...😮 I think I'll invest in a decent hydraulic bottle jack from now on.
to be fair its rated for 2 tons (2000lbs or 907kg) ... he stressed it and logged it failing at 1709kg or 3767 lbs, realistically it was moving and bending before that but it handled more than 3 tons for a 2 ton jack. as long as you aren't dropping another car on the car you already have lifted you should be fine.
@@Crazy49er 2 tons is actually 2 metric tonnes or 4000kg or 8818lbs. He logged its fail at 1709kg or only 43% of its nominal capacity. Disgraceful. I have one of those cheap trolley jacks but it only ever use it to jack up a motorcyle while I get some blocks under it. I'd never use it on a car.
@@MrPoopnoddy OMG how are Americans failing this ship called conversion without a dingy to float on. 2 metric tons is just 2000kg. Metric just stands for the scale so that you do not confuse it with imperial ton which is about 2030kg or US ton. Thus 2 Metric tons is 2000kg and not the 4000kg you typed.
@@donsmith9478 yes, but they're poorly designed for it even then. A stiff wind can shift the vehicle enough to make it tip/collapse. I had it happen with a scissor jack when I changed a tire on the side of a road. I carry a floor jack now because of that.
I'll take the plastic one over the last one any day. I was thinking that garage jack would be the winner ( the one most of us are guilty of using with no jack stand) but it was the worst one!
Ох ля, вот просто сижу и с большим интересом смотрю, да какой же нагрузки ты ромбическую механику на винте выкрутишь))) Под конец прям больно, но почти тонна, красава)
Country of manufacture would have been interesting. Both for strength and standards perspective. Also, loading some of the jacks on points of contact clearly not meant to be the primary load bearing surface was sketchy. As bad as the Rhombic jack seemed, at least it refused to lift more than it could handle.
Taka propozycja: Może zmienić tło, na przykład z czystego białego na białe w jakieś paski. Fajnie byłoby widać jak dana rzecz się wygina. Ewentualnie z miarką 😊
The best jacks in the United States are those labeled as being certified to the ANSI/ASME B30.1-2004 standard. "ASME B30.1 applies to general purpose, portable jacks. Jacks designed for automotive service, trip-lowered jacks, and those that are an integral part of other equipment are not included in the scope of this standard. Devices designed for static support rather than lifting are also not included." -ANSI - American National Standards Institute -ASME - American Society of Mechanical Engineers
My grandfather had three or four of those old screw house, jacks… When he used to work at the Roundhouse at the railroad station, he got them from work …,
The only one I felt sorry for is the 1970's jack. It had a long life, did it's job well, and this is the thanks it gets.
This is why you do not sell your valuable jack on market place. Some will make a video of it :D
Its ultimate performance has been recorded and will live on forever. Its purpose has been fulfilled in spades. That'll do pig.
Those old jacks raised the city of Chicago 🫡
Its been training it's whole life for this moment.
Interesting though, that it would still hold it up to 15 tonne, much better than the modern jacks, why is every thing made these days worse?
For a second i thought he will let the old jack live, but this man is merciless.
😂😂😂
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Randy should have let the old one live it's a destroying it
1970 isn’t “old” damnit. 😂
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Hydraulic jack- 2050-7947
Rhombic type jack-785-1643
Plastic jack-2005-4779
Old jack-2019-16630
Mechanical jack-2118-14004
Hydraulic jack on wheels-1268-1709
Thanks, probably one of the more boring videos submitted with regards to hydraulic presses.
By far my favorite test! This is an actual usable test for the safety of others. Thank you so much! (From a guy that has been under a lot of vehicles with many different types of jacks.)
Yeah and a lawsuit waiting to happen you can't advertise a jack that lifts 2 tons and have it fail at 1.5 tons
@@garystump5680 those harbor freight jack stands tho
That is the perfect way to put it my fellow car guy!!
Shouldn't you always put a jack stand under the vehicle before getting under it. Why would you risk it on just a jack??
No doubt. I just chunked my floor jack in the dumpster!
No surprise at all that the old one did way better than any of the others, but if they had the contact surface loaded as it was designed, it would have held on way longer than it did.
That’s what I was thinking. It really wasn’t an accurate test, but at the same time sad to see the old jack get destroyed.
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Well the old one was super heavy and not 15$
Although it is not valid for the plastic one, it is a really accurate determination for the old jack.
That old jack...it could have been passed down through generation after generation, it was on its journey to fulfill its destiny when fate brought it to CHP and that, as the records show, was the end of the line. Life cut short for our entertainment. I am not sure how I feel about that.
I loved it! Not just entertainment, but enlightenment.
why care and save it when you got money to go buy 100 more with your spare pocket change
I think its sacrifice can prove to future generations that the previous things are not as bad as the public thinks, so it is valuable
bro got me tearing up
I have an old jack like that. From around the early 1920's. Was moving a guys furniture and he didn't want it.
I had a mechanical jack for years from on old Datsun. I used that for years. I didn't realize how it worked until you broke it and it looks like a differential inside with a ring and pinion gear set. Thanks for educating me.
Is that like the 'old jack 70s' in the video, cos I have no idea how that worked?.
This old jack was still able to carry more than 10 tons even after it was bent. Respect O7
After those pesky ears snapped off , she took it like a man.
you need to do the MATH 2.2 KG to 1 Pound. 2000 Pounds to 1 ton. I'm thinking this math was off on the ratings. so his 2000 KG was close but not spot on it's 2000 KG is about 2.2 tons.
Schools I went to 2000 lbs was a ton not 1000
@@chuckholmes2075 the video says it's 16630 kg. Why did you need to convert it to pounds? I said the old jack is able to hold more than 10 tons and 16 tons is more than 10 tons. I didn't understand your point of wanting to correct me
@@marcgovenor8136 and all the measurements here are KG
Excellent testing , the old stuff is definitely amazing
I’m shocked at how good the threads on the plastic one were , if the body was thicker it would probably have done better
I feel like the old one would have done better if they'd shaved the top flat so that the pressure would have stayed even from the start. Having one side break off introduced some shear that caused early failure IMO, and yeah. the plastic one surprised me. I figured it'd be right down there with the scissor jack.
@@Canthus13 completely agree
@@Canthus13 its not plastic, its HDPE
@@hdj81Vlimited High Density Poly Ethylene is a plastic... arguing semantics makes you look like a child.
@@hdj81Vlimited Any idea what the model number is? I'd guess it was glass reinforced nylon - same stuff power tool makers use. Has similar strength to cast aluminum.
Make sure you use jack stands under anything you plan on climbing under. And never use cement blocks, if anything use blocks of wood like 4x4’s or 6x6’s.
Or at the very least, make a block sit with the holes vertical! That's two sides and three webs holding the weight up, but only the three webs like on it's side. I just cringe when I see them sideways like that!!! There's more than one reason they sit in a foundation the way they are built. Plus making sure there aren't any stress points on concrete helps a lot, like a wood block under and above it. But yeah, still a very bad idea.
Squished like a BUG
@rukamukus . . . it's good that you pointed out about not using cement blocks.
While the blocks can be heavy, dropping them from a height of a meter or so onto pavement can result with them to fracture.
Yet, YT has videos where people try to impress viewers on the power of a firearm with a bullet breaking a cement block apart; as the same can be done with a carpenter's hammer.
If you're in the middle of nowhere, use your spare tire (which you should always have). Lay it under the car where you will be working. :)
Ok, I must say I'm impressed by the plastic jack.
I knew the sissor one was going to be first to fail, but surprised the plastic jack did better than the sheet metal floor jack.
Problem is, 20 years from now, the plastic jack will crumble when you go to pick it up.
@@rmr5740 Well, I wouldn't trust taking off a tire using a plastic jack. Lol. There is something to be said about steel.
That said, I was simply impressed by it, still would never use it personally or buy it.
I'm shocked at how many people don't know how to properly use the handle on that green scissor jack! The handle is literally made as a leverage bar!
the scissor was used in a dangerous way
I was screaming at the screen when he was doing this!
Well he also tried lifting it higher than it can go?
@antanastonka4164
No, it could still have went much higher. I've used those type of Jack's many times and they go higher and are easy to use.
I was cringing.
I have the same mechanical jack (bottle jack) in my car. It came as the standard jack. Glad to see it exceeds the 2T rating.
Most would be required to have a safety margin. That 2T should be "safe", not at the edge of failure.
Whoever built that old jack deserves to be proud
3:57 Nominal force test
4:52 Rhombic type jack
6:59 Plastic jack
8:14 Old jack (1970)
8:53 Mechanical jack
9:30 Hydraulic jack on wheels
10:15 Strength test
Thanks for that!
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~9/10T steel meelting.
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Just to be clear, they load measurements are in kilograms, not pounds. Correct?
1 kg = 2.2 lbs.
una lástima que haya destrozado el viejo gato
no merecía ese final
debio ser Restaurado a su gloria original y continuar sirviendo otros 500 años mas
fue triste ver como lo destruiste..!!
I want 4 of those 1970 jacks lol
That old cast iron jack would have still been working 100 years from now and beyond!
Yeah I must say he should have skipped that one.
And then some.
In defense of the old jack, the wings were not ever intended to bear the weight. When they broke, the stress was no longer vertical and the jack failed quickly. Had the press been directed on the center of the jack, that thing would have probably have out lasted the press itself.
I am surprised that plastic Jack held up that long under an exaggerated load! 👍🏻
In an actual overload situation that plastic jack is by far the most dangerous since the housing is the first part to fail allowing the load to suddenly fall - That would kill.
@@Senkino5o I don't know. Those rhomboid ones are horrible and pathetic.. In a real situation definitely dangerous. Too close to failing under the weight of a normal car.
it hurts to see you destroyed the vintage jack😢
Wow that last one needs to be pulled from the market immediately
which one?
@@regularmdfacka2118 The wheel jack. It claimed to support 2 tons and failed at .8 tons.
@@AnotherVexium Its roughly the same size as most 1350kg trolley jacks you can buy at most tool stores, just really cheaply constructed. I knew it wasn't a 2t jack its nowhere near big enough.
Yeah really it looks like a kids Tonka toy jack 🤣🤣. It's looks fake and only held half a ton that's pathetic
@@toolmanslaton4975 and what Toyota used if you know that huge car company my dad was a trainer or mechanic or some thing and they use that kind of pump jack I mean they use the huge hydraulic things to lift the entire car where you can walk under it but yeah they can hold up a big car like an SUV if used properly when I suspect is this guy didn’t use it properly instead of raising it slightly he left it all the way down much force into a port that’s not supposed to have that much force on it instead of going down through the joint where it has thicker metal and is designed to handle it
Seriously impressed by that red mechanical jack holding up to 7 times the rated value.
The scissor jack and trolley should be investigated for not meeting the rated value, they were terrible.
I am honestly surprised at the performance of the roller jack. I thought it would be for sure the best one. Well, I guess it's time to go out and buy one of those little mechanical jacks. That did surprisingly well, just shy of 14 times the maximum rated load.
That roll jack was a very sorry excuse for a roll jack if you ask me, it honestly behaves like it was made in china. My $20 American made roll jack has served me well for years now.
just buy an actually decent rolling jack that thing was a piece of sh*t
All of these were Russian pieces of sh*t
He's right it is a piece of shit mine broke second time using it pissed me off tire was flat and I was tryna get to work
Made out of bud light cans
The rhombic jack might bear more weight if it's extended more; the leverage might be shifted to different stress points.
If you'd used these much before you would know that there is no 2ton rated scissor jack, those things are good for lifting up an axle on a passenger car and nothing more.
Yes but in the actual cases where it is used, its extended even less
@@prakhargahlot9373 So dig a hole to put it in... Same as you do for a ladder that's too long.
@@prakhargahlot9373 you must not be lifting very high then, cause the point where it was in the video is how far it would be extended before it even makes contact on a lot of vehicles 🤦♂️
Of course that's going to make a difference turns out if you asked for a little physics you will find using a length of something as a support prop will support a much higher weight as opposed to using it as a lever support
I have a 2 ton hydraulic jack on wheels like that orange one that I bought at autozone for $20 20 years ago when I was 18 years old. I used it for every oil change and brake job I did on my car and some of my friend's cars up until about 3 years ago when I replaced it. it still works and I keep it around as a backup in case it's needed. I also used that thing up on blocks to lift the front end of a ford F-250 once to get it up on stands. No doubt it would have done better than the one in this video. But the one in this video reminds me of the one I originally bought trying to replace my old jack about 10 years ago. That one had the hydraulics fail on it the 3rd time I used it trying to lift up my honda I had at the time and the store wouldn't take it back.
C'est mon test préféré ! C'est un véritable test utile pour la sécurité de tous. Merci beaucoup! (D'un mécanicien qui a passé son temps à utiliser de nombreux types de cric différents.)
Given that the cheapest jack that was made out of plastic preformed that well was impressive. I'd probably go with the 60$ mechanical jack. Really tough.
What most people call plastic is really complicated compared to metals. It's a lot of variation in polymers structure. The wires made of these polymers can easily be orders of magnitude stronger then metals by weight and couple of times stronger by volume. The difficulty is to arrange the polymers to match the load when you have complex shapes.
This a copy from the old toyota jacks.
@@georgeyoutube7580I think new jacks are all made in China and the manufactures are squeezed on cost. The plastics used here are not the carbon fibre in a Ferrari driver tub.
These Ys are for preventing the screw jack from snapping not for a load! Put any material strong enough to fill the gap then tighten it hard! And the scissors jack try with the hook past the ring so the bar is one half in your both hands, then apply more force. If the bar bends put something stronger in same manner! 800 is enough for most cars tyre job!
Parabéns pela ideia. Foi o melhor teste que já ví. Obrigado!
Rose cries in silence as Jack got crushed between the hydraulic press
Lol
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I really enjoy no music, no talking. The action speaks for itself.
Basically, don't trust any jack made from pressed steel...
it was also a little unfair on that cast iron jack in that it's designed to support an axle or a chassis rail, and not have the force transmitted onto the tops of that cradle casting. Once those broke off, it performed admirably.
I think a bit of grease on the threads of the green scissor jack would have helped. The threads seemed dry.
every single minute worth to watch! Thank you very much for this informative video!
Yes, not designed to support the load on the ears of the head. As soon as one ear failed, the pressure was skewed out of alignment causing the main shaft to bend. Still not bad for a 50 year old jack.
This video is the best! -Using your Press to measure the acutal (not claimed) power of the jacks with the press's pressure gauge.
I actually felt sorry for the old jack. At least it made a cool exit. Those things are hard to find, cause nobody wants to get rid of them. Some of those manufacturers should get sued. The ultimate breaking capacity should have a safety factor of at least 2.5 to 3.0 of its rated value. The scissor jack didn't even have half of its rated capacity. It would have been even less in its lowest configuration due to the geometry of the arms. Impressed with the plastic jack.
The 1970s jack I think would have went further before breaking only because the press couldn’t press directly down in the center like the frame if a car would and instead broke the ears off it.
Thank-you Sir, good stuff.
An overall tabulation of the results would have been appreciated.
Very interesting. Knew a scissor jack wouldn't be very strong, but looks like they're almost a waste of money. Same with the plastic one. Thanks for the video.
That old Jack could’ve been a piece of artwork if he stop A few second short! 👍
I don’t think the green jack was properly cranked. You won’t get the proper leverage with the crossbar extension. You had to feed the curved bar into the loop further and crank it directly almost like a crowbar.
Sounded like it needed to be lubed, too.
When I realized the old jack was going to be destroyed I whimpered a bit.
Yea. E to
@daveyjones I fully agree with you. It's all about mechanical advantage. Obviously a mechanical screw jack potentially will produce the highest load. When he tested the green rhombic jack he stopped halfway through the test then gave up easily. It would have produced more load with more effort. Plus it will produce greater load, the higher it's extended ! The law of the lever.
Bear in mind almost every car has this type supplied for flat tyre replacement and only needs to provide about a quarter of the vehicle load- perfectly capable for any vehicle they're designed for.
Yes I agree with you on the rhombic jack~~I have two of them in my shop and use them for everything as the can start out very low.
I gotta find one of those mechanical jacks. Looks like a good one to carry in the car. Far better than the rombic junk.
that fat red one is a wormgear jack. i have two different ones and they never stop amazing me how much they really can take. basically as long as you manage to turn the drive shaft it will manage to lift
очень полезное видео я рад что оно мне попалось наглядное пособие молодец
Looks like my wheel jack is going to the scrap yard.
Thanks for this test
Nice! You actually tested these fairly accurately by using the jack first then stressing them from there.
The old 1970 jack is now considered a rare piece of art after this debacle.
Домкрат СССР
my dad sells antiques and i can assure u there are plenty left
Ну вообще то это должно быть подсудным делом, если написано 2т а домкрат ломается на 1600.
И сажать производителей надо раньше, чем кого то раздавит машиной которую им поднимут.
The jack is meant to jack something up not hold it that's why you use metal Holders witch some in my shop can hold 25 tons
Verry interesting. I love the idea to stress-test old vs new stuff.
I think old stuff has higher quality then new. .. Like humans ;)
Good one~!!!
Fyi, a socket and impact gun with the green jack makes for effortless up and down. Screw the metal handles.
I use this jack all the time on the cars I work on in my driveway.
the best part about the bottle jacks is even if they fail they still give you that little bit of room, which doesn't matter much if you have tires but can still help, especially without tires on. Might save your life.
When changing tyres/working with the wheel off slide the wheel under the body of the car near where your working, if everything fails the car will sit on it and give you some clearance to get out/breath.
@@paidwitness797 Ye I am aware of that. I was just thinking about if for some reason you had a wheel off and didn't have a wheel and was under the car. it would be an odd situation to get into but I have seen it lol
@@paidwitness797 Comments like this save lives, hell when I was told this it saved mine less than a year later.
@@lokian1174 It was what i was thinking when i typed it, if it gets just 1 person out of trouble it was a worthy post!
This is an awesome test. I have each of these styles of jacks. Not only seeing when they fail but how they fail will have me remembering bout this test when I reach for a jack… good stuff.
Fantastic and useful test! Well, I guess (rather surprisingly to me) hydraulic and mechanical jacks turned out to be overall the best ones (though they all have applications and deisng purposes).
Just as a fyi 2000 lb is 1 ton. 4000 lb is 2 tons. The jacks were tested to 1/2 the stated capacity provided the measurement shown is pounds and not Kg.
Also keep in mind the cast iron Jack is designed to support a car by the axel. It isn't designed to take load in that way.
Shocking about the plastic jack! And praying for the cool old jack. 🙏
Pretty sure this guy has never changed a flat tire before
Well if you need to do that, side of road, make sure you don't put any of your body extremities under the vehicle. Also watch out for those mirrors, if vehicle drops the wing mirror can hit you in the head!
He certainly didn't know how to crank on a scissor jack or the others with a loop hole in the raise and lower arm~!!
When I was scrolling I though the thumbnail was of bongs being crushed
I had my money on the old ratchet jack with the bottle jack in second. The one weak spot on the old jack is the cast iron “wings”. I was surprised that the floor jack couldn’t even make it’s stated lift weight let alone take 4 tons, which is the minimum safety margin for a lifting machine.
"do not try it at home" everyone has a 150 ton hydraulic press on their kitchen counter...
This guy is not afraid to push that hydraulic press to the point of making it pretty dangerous. Not like other press channels
Really like the way the 1970's jack works, do they still make this style?
Verry good guys we watch your channel a lot well when we are not build something or blowing it up thanks 👍🏼
A couple of real shockers for me. Turns out, a plastic jack rated for two tons is not as crazy as it sounds!
True enough but only under ideal conditions, table is flat and level, press comes down slowly and straight. Can't say I'd wanna do a road side tire change though, every car going by shakes yours and the jack gets side pressure, uneven ground. Lotta possible dangers in real world applications, but yes it was still impressive for a lab rat test.
@@acesup5845 Obviously it depends on the vehicle you are lifting. You wouldn't use it on an F150 but would on a Miata
@@Cheepchipsable Well maybe you would, have at it. My comment didn't have anything to do with vehicle size, I was referring to imperfections in ground and environment. Anybody who has changed a tire roadside knows that when another car passes by you the vehicle shakes, now compound that with an uneven ground and even a Miata could conceivably be heavy enough to cause jack failure. Similar to a crane or forklift with a load being lifted straight up they can do a bunch of weight measured in tons but put a little side strain and they collapse under pressures measured in thousands. You go on with it, I'll stick to something a little more durable.
@@Cheepchipsable but it wouldn't even fit under a miata.
@@Cheepchipsablehopefully you wouldn't OWN an F150
The only issue here with the testing is the thrombic ha k and trolley jack were tested at their weakest lifted height.
Both jack gain exponentially higher resistance the higher the jack is lifted.
Personally i prefer lift with a trolley high enough to pop it on an axle stand then switch to a bottle jack.
Doesn't matter though. If they are rated for 2 tons then they should be able to lift 2 tons through their entire range of motion.
That's exactly where they should be tested. Safety matters.
@@TheEulerID spread of weight means neither jack face that weight at that height if used correct.
@@Tymopta thats not how their works though,
The weight is multiplied by height and the strength is increased by the angle created by that height.
You’re not lifting 2t when jacking a car up on one side, weight is transferred.
@@cloric1 Complete rubbish. It's nothing to do with "spread of weight", whatever you mean by that. Neither jack was able to support two a two ton load. All the others did it with a very considerable safety margin. It's entirely irrelevant whether they were tested at their weakest configuration or not. If they are rated to support two tons, without qualification, then they must do so, with a safety margin, in all stages of lift.
If what you mean is that you can use one of those jacks to life the corner of a two ton vehicle to change a wheel then, maybe. But that's not what a load rating means.
Perhaps you ought to ask yourself, if all the other jacks managed to support a two ton load with ease, then they are clearly a lot stronger and a lot safer.
This is pathetic. If they cannot support 2 tons through their entire range, then they should be rated at what they can support, which on this evidence is less than 1 ton with virtually no safety margin.
Putting the strain on the two fork tips of the Plastic- and Old Jack is unfair. These forks are there to prevent slipping off the load and not to pick up the load.
It would have been correct to put a suitable round or square bar in the fork and put the load on the bar.
scissor jacks was/are underrated. 20v impact and proper socket head/weld-adapt will lift a car or truck easily, and quicker than the rest, with less sweat, on a sweaty day. Throw away the death wand shepherds hook, and weld a bolt head on the end.
It's frightening to see how little that trolley jack took for it to fail, I've been using them for years...😮
I think I'll invest in a decent hydraulic bottle jack from now on.
to be fair its rated for 2 tons (2000lbs or 907kg) ... he stressed it and logged it failing at 1709kg or 3767 lbs, realistically it was moving and bending before that but it handled more than 3 tons for a 2 ton jack. as long as you aren't dropping another car on the car you already have lifted you should be fine.
@@Crazy49er 2 metric tons are 2000 kg, or 4409,25 lbs if you prefer retarded units 😬
@@Crazy49er 2 tons is actually 2 metric tonnes or 4000kg or 8818lbs. He logged its fail at 1709kg or only 43% of its nominal capacity. Disgraceful. I have one of those cheap trolley jacks but it only ever use it to jack up a motorcyle while I get some blocks under it. I'd never use it on a car.
The problem with a bottle jack is that they don't work on any car. Only suvs and trucks
@@MrPoopnoddy OMG how are Americans failing this ship called conversion without a dingy to float on. 2 metric tons is just 2000kg. Metric just stands for the scale so that you do not confuse it with imperial ton which is about 2030kg or US ton. Thus 2 Metric tons is 2000kg and not the 4000kg you typed.
NEVER use a cheap floor jack. They'll get you killed. And always use jack stands regardless of the jack you use.
The small floor jack is intended to be used in the same manner as the rhombic - lifting one corner at a time only.
@@donsmith9478 yes, but they're poorly designed for it even then. A stiff wind can shift the vehicle enough to make it tip/collapse. I had it happen with a scissor jack when I changed a tire on the side of a road. I carry a floor jack now because of that.
Excellent consumer advice - ditching the scissor jack immediately.
Pretty impressed with the plastic jack. I would not trust it unless it was brand new tho
I'll take the plastic one over the last one any day. I was thinking that garage jack would be the winner ( the one most of us are guilty of using with no jack stand) but it was the worst one!
How has nobody noticed that a single ton is 2,000 pounds. So a 2 ton rating would be 4,000 pounds.
It's pressing in kilograms fool.
An Imperial Ton is 2240 lbs
This video doesn't mention pounds, why did you?
It was a bit misleading . 1000 kg is one metric ton.
In metric measurement the 'ton' is spelt 'tonne'; 1000kg.
When will America catch up with the civilised world..?
Would you had thermal imaging of your 'tests' ??
I'm going to be scouting out old farmers sheds for an old 1970s jack now!
Ох ля, вот просто сижу и с большим интересом смотрю, да какой же нагрузки ты ромбическую механику на винте выкрутишь))) Под конец прям больно, но почти тонна, красава)
Было смешно.
RUSSIAN!
Fantastic test, well done
5:34. I use a long thick flathead screwdriver with those when I can. Makes short work when short on time. 😉
Love this videos! 💚
Country of manufacture would have been interesting. Both for strength and standards perspective. Also, loading some of the jacks on points of contact clearly not meant to be the primary load bearing surface was sketchy. As bad as the Rhombic jack seemed, at least it refused to lift more than it could handle.
لقد صقطت الأقنعة وظهرت الحقائق وإنكشفت الأسرار
ياله من عمل قيم ويستحق كل التقدير❤🎉
I miss the original jack, which is given to the car.... Great results, Thanks. I mostly use the jack on wheel.... :-)
The video was king.😊
Super interesting thank you 😊
Taka propozycja:
Może zmienić tło, na przykład z czystego białego na białe w jakieś paski.
Fajnie byłoby widać jak dana rzecz się wygina.
Ewentualnie z miarką 😊
Whole bunch of half-ton jacks. For 2 ton vehicles sure, but only about 1/4 of the vehicle per jack.
Super test. Thank you
Impressive how strong the hydraulic jack (bottle), the old 70's iron jack and especially the mechanic jack that suports more than 16 tons...
"Plastic Jack"
Great name for a 21st Century Pirate
I preferred the Old Jack .
Rare,exotic and durable.
Excellent Job!
Nice Sir ❤🔥
This channel is great.
4:30 Man, I was waiting for that thing to let go and see some bloody knuckles. Had my safety goggles on and backed away from the screen.
Your videos are pretty cool whats the max pressure or force of your press?
Nice to know you are taking pictures and waiting for them to develop......
The best jacks in the United States are those labeled as being certified to the ANSI/ASME B30.1-2004 standard. "ASME B30.1 applies to general purpose, portable jacks. Jacks designed for automotive service, trip-lowered jacks, and those that are an integral part of other equipment are not included in the scope of this standard. Devices designed for static support rather than lifting are also not included."
-ANSI - American National Standards Institute
-ASME - American Society of Mechanical Engineers
My grandfather had three or four of those old screw house, jacks…
When he used to work at the Roundhouse at the railroad station, he got them from work …,
amazing video ✔✔👍👍 hallo from CROatia