Defunctland: The History of Mickey Mouse Park

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  • Before Disneyland, Walt Disney envisioned a smaller theme park, called Mickey Mouse Park, to be placed at his Burbank Studio. In this episode, Kevin discusses the events that led to its creation and the influences it would have on Disneyland.
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  • @Defunctland
    @Defunctland  Před 4 lety +1663

    Hey everyone! Hope you like the video. I see many people commenting on the use of "Dixie" in the intro, and I want to be clear that this was done purposefully with knowledge of its historical context. If you look at the context it is placed, both with the images of the intro and within the video's theme as a whole, I hope it makes sense as to why I included it.
    I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy. If you need something else to past the time, as always, I recommend my experimental channel Themed Alternative: czcams.com/video/3lp9sObiJNk/video.html

    • @StamfordBridge
      @StamfordBridge Před 4 lety +196

      Sejez No, Germans by and large have had to come to terms with their past, whereas nearly half of Americans live in a culture of permanent amnesia, constantly whitewashing the past, while the other half never stop pointing to the continued relevance of past uglinesses. It’s why now we have not just a cultural divide, but a reality divide.

    • @coyoteartist
      @coyoteartist Před 4 lety +53

      Lord love a duck, it's just a song.

    • @coyoteartist
      @coyoteartist Před 4 lety +38

      @Sejez No one was asking for your forgiveness.

    • @coyoteartist
      @coyoteartist Před 4 lety +50

      @Sejez I don't see where he was saying that. He was simply saying that we in the US tend to have a divide of extremes when it comes to the past. Yeah our ancestors did some things that aren't nice to think about. But every country is guilty of that. Ideally we'd be more in the middle about it, learning from the past and learning why people did things as they did. That's not easy in a country based on individualism. I might not like a lot of what happened in the past, but I've learned the history and I know there were positives too.

    • @WWChampion16
      @WWChampion16 Před 4 lety +1

      Hopefully this is a continuing story you are doing.

  • @hexmaniacwingy
    @hexmaniacwingy Před 4 lety +4343

    "Walt was overcome with depression and developed a hyperfixation on trains" is probably the single most relatable thing about Walt I've ever heard.

    • @luma4902
      @luma4902 Před 2 lety +67

      For me it was he was broken and depressed 1:10

    • @mr.epicmemerman131
      @mr.epicmemerman131 Před 2 lety +7

      Same.

    • @JoshuaJacobs83
      @JoshuaJacobs83 Před 2 lety +1

      I truly hope you find and get mental health help. It sounds like you need it. :(

    • @gonzolonzo1383
      @gonzolonzo1383 Před 2 lety +44

      It's probably the only thing he's said that's particularly relatable.

    • @Naharu.
      @Naharu. Před rokem +16

      He just like me, for real

  • @JennyNicholson
    @JennyNicholson Před 4 lety +3657

    WALT 👏 LOVED 👏 TRAINS 👏

  • @EngineerLume
    @EngineerLume Před 4 lety +3710

    "He was depressed. And he didn't know what to do about it."
    *Rag-Time Intensifies*

    • @iammaybeabro4598
      @iammaybeabro4598 Před 4 lety +26

      Just like playing "What a Wonderful World" in Bowling for Columbine.

    • @thecrimsonarrow1705
      @thecrimsonarrow1705 Před 4 lety +39

      He was playing Dixie, “Song of the South Flashbacks Intensity”

    • @iammaybeabro4598
      @iammaybeabro4598 Před 4 lety +3

      @@thecrimsonarrow1705 I didn't know what he was playing, but hey, it works the same exact way (that's what I was getting at, I should've phrased it better).

    • @thecrimsonarrow1705
      @thecrimsonarrow1705 Před 4 lety

      @I am maybe a bro? 45 I know what you were saying and I know what you mean but the song that was playing at the beginning is called “Dixie” and it’s an old Southern song that has many implications towards the old South and civil war.

    • @thecrimsonarrow1705
      @thecrimsonarrow1705 Před 4 lety

      I was more making a statement then replying to what you said I’m sorry mate!

  • @marglefarble8280
    @marglefarble8280 Před 4 lety +2132

    Alternate title: Walt Disney's Midlife Crisis

    • @freakshowfilmfestival3591
      @freakshowfilmfestival3591 Před 4 lety +7

      You sound just like the enemies of Sea Biscuit. 😑

    • @poletooke4691
      @poletooke4691 Před 3 lety +21

      Sadly, this is far beyond Disney’s “mid life” - this is like 1950 and he died in 1966

    • @alexbrown8900
      @alexbrown8900 Před 3 lety +11

      @@poletooke4691 midlife doesnt mean mid of your life. You can have one and die in the same year.

    • @clyne8835
      @clyne8835 Před 2 lety +10

      @@poletooke4691 end of life crisis about his legacy

    • @jayson1505
      @jayson1505 Před rokem +3

      @@clyne8835 nah, that's epcot 😭

  • @catarinalopes7891
    @catarinalopes7891 Před 4 lety +4593

    walt disney obsessing over trains while depressed is definitely a mood for this quarantine

    • @ChevyCamaroIsBetter
      @ChevyCamaroIsBetter Před 4 lety +74

      That's my mood. Like everyday. I love trains, not the depressed part.

    • @Anitamustdie
      @Anitamustdie Před 4 lety +3

      Same

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 Před 4 lety +3

      @@ChevyCamaroIsBetter Old Bethpage Village Restoration has trains display sometimes

    • @ChevyCamaroIsBetter
      @ChevyCamaroIsBetter Před 4 lety

      @@oooh19 awesome! I gotta check that out next time they have it.

    • @carminecdinoproductions
      @carminecdinoproductions Před 3 lety +1

      Catarina Lopes Same...
      I take a train do different parts of New Jersey and to New York City with my CFI advanced travel training classes!
      A train ride to the city isn’t so bad! 🧳🚞🌃

  • @venustoise134
    @venustoise134 Před 4 lety +6095

    Walt: "I'm the furthest thing from Depressed! Would a depressed person make this??"
    *Points to a large train track in his backyard*

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 Před 4 lety +642

      10 years later
      Walt: "Whose depressed now!"
      Points to a giant theme park specifically made to house his trains.

    • @katherinealvarez9216
      @katherinealvarez9216 Před 4 lety +358

      @@theotherjared9824 Years later...
      "I'm totally not depressed!!!"
      *Planning to build a city*

    • @AusSP
      @AusSP Před 4 lety +199

      Serious answer, maybe, but I'd sure be a lot less depressed if I had a large train track in my backyard.

    • @DMWayne-ke7fl
      @DMWayne-ke7fl Před 4 lety +6

      Is there a reference?

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 Před 4 lety +119

      @@AusSP I have a friend with a train track in her back yard and she is most certainly not happy with it. Probably because she does not own it, and the trains run at all hours of the day.

  • @jewelthompson9916
    @jewelthompson9916 Před 4 lety +3588

    Rich people in the 40s were wild like he just built a railroad in his backyard

    • @mrwalkway4740
      @mrwalkway4740 Před 4 lety +236

      Rich people today buy stupid shit like garbage abstract art and politicians

    • @livialovee
      @livialovee Před 4 lety +106

      Rich people now buy a whole island just to escape the Coronavirus

    • @kevinzurek3431
      @kevinzurek3431 Před 4 lety +20

      Rich people now still do that.

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Před 4 lety +31

      A ton of people do that today still. Not all are rich though.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Před 4 lety +99

      @@mrwalkway4740 I know what you meant by "buying politicians", but now I can't help but imagine a stereotypical rich person carrying around some famous politician like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Mike Haggard in their purse like a dog (it's one of those magic purses that's bigger on the inside)

  • @DrgoFx
    @DrgoFx Před 4 lety +782

    I love the slight break of "character" for the line "Partly due to an injury he incurred, and partly due to the fact that on TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS one of the people he was playing polo with DIED DURING THE GAME."
    Like you can just hear the emphasis of like "I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP."

  • @xingcat
    @xingcat Před 4 lety +2093

    Walt really shouldn't have been playing polo at Action Park.

  • @ksfallenangel5770
    @ksfallenangel5770 Před 4 lety +3040

    Shout out to Roy Disney for being a such a good older brother to Walt.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 4 lety +290

      Half of Walt's success is because of his older brother who is the only person that can talk to the bankers and investors...

    • @fatcat1399
      @fatcat1399 Před 4 lety +21

      Nice Code Lyoko profile pic!🤘

    • @poletooke4691
      @poletooke4691 Před 3 lety +61

      He was such a supportive big brother. I envy Walt

    • @dorkdumproductions7900
      @dorkdumproductions7900 Před 3 lety +170

      Shout out to Roy for putting up with all of Walt’s shit 😂

    • @Thatoneshortkid10
      @Thatoneshortkid10 Před 3 lety +28

      Roy was an amazing brother I am glad that Roy was his brother I love them and Disney land and world

  • @patchwork6280
    @patchwork6280 Před 4 lety +2280

    I couldn't help but imagine just sitting in a park enjoying myself and seeing a adult man who's created one of the most successful and famous companies of all time running around and squealing like a child

    • @ZoanBlade90
      @ZoanBlade90 Před 4 lety +142

      It makes him human. I love it.

    • @ShootingStarNeo
      @ShootingStarNeo Před 4 lety +97

      Honestly, relatable. I too revert to an excited kid when I’m at conventions.
      They’re anime conventions though and *that’s* a strange thing to imagine Walt Disney attending.

    • @KaylaNoelle1
      @KaylaNoelle1 Před 4 lety +53

      One of the joys of fatherhood is the excuse to act like a kid yourself I guess. I know my dad took advantage of that haha.

    • @traindude70
      @traindude70 Před 4 lety +18

      Better thing is when you find out zwalt Disney is the engineer driving the train around Disney Land you are riding.

    • @angrytheclown801
      @angrytheclown801 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ShootingStarNeo Now I'm imagining him bishonen and going all Goku with a Kamehameha

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos Před 4 lety +824

    "I like trains."
    - Walt Disney, 1946

  • @TDOTCRFH4
    @TDOTCRFH4 Před 4 lety +757

    personally I would have stopped playing polo after witnessing death once

    • @emilybennett6567
      @emilybennett6567 Před 4 lety +84

      Many moons ago I attended a charity polo match to which my boss had bought a table of 10 seats and instructed his staff to go.
      We were a medical office and none of us had really aspired to the polo match life.
      But it was that first weekend in May where spring is giving way to the promise of summer, with a woodwind quintet, free-flowing champagne and impossibly tasty steak sandwiches on demand.; a glorious afternoon with well-appointed men urging their ponies up and down the pitch. Then the unthinkable - a pony staggered and fell, got back up, and then dropped dead. There isn't really a rule in the etiquette books as to what is appropriate when this happens, but we all sobered up as best we could, made our excuses, and left as graciously as possible. Doc later said the pony's heart basically exploded.
      I have continued not aspiring to the polo match life.

    • @mementoargentum7733
      @mementoargentum7733 Před 4 lety +18

      @@emilybennett6567 I had a feeling I knew where you were going and Still kept reading.....lol Well done with the descriptions there!

    • @emilybennett6567
      @emilybennett6567 Před 4 lety +43

      @@mementoargentum7733 Thanks I forgot to add that we were all invited to dress as if we were guests of the characters in The Great Gatsby. It was truly surreal.
      And I have never had a steak sandwich that measured up to that memory.

    • @mementoargentum7733
      @mementoargentum7733 Před 4 lety +16

      @@emilybennett6567 That makes it even crazier.... Wow

    • @juliagoodwin9510
      @juliagoodwin9510 Před 3 lety +14

      I like to think Walt was aware of the "Rule of Three," and didn't want to push his luck.

  • @neptunnae
    @neptunnae Před 4 lety +1035

    Disney built a tiny railroad when his wife wanted a garden
    That made me laugh more than it should-

    • @andyjay729
      @andyjay729 Před 4 lety +69

      All because Ward Kimball had one in his backyard.
      Wait, how fucking huge was Ward Kimball's backyard? Walt just had one of those mini trains you have straddle to ride. Kimball's were the size of the Disneyland Railroad itself!

    • @oldmanartist4655
      @oldmanartist4655 Před 4 lety +54

      @@andyjay729 guy, they were buying TRAINS out of boredom. safe to say they probably had backyards.

    • @drdewott9154
      @drdewott9154 Před 4 lety +18

      Yeah Ward had quite some stuff. About 1000ft of 3ft wide track (same as Disneyland and Disney World uses) and a full size engine and coach, similar in size to that found at Walt Disney world today. Along with that, a smaller train more equivalent in size to that of the Disneyland railroad today, converted out of an old plantation train from Hawaii. I mean heck, Ward's small engine "Chloe" actually went on the Disneyland railroad a few years ago when they rebuilt it to make room for Galaxy's Edge.

    • @micycles1200
      @micycles1200 Před 4 lety +22

      @@andyjay729 Yeah, I had always wondered that. I mean, Walt was one of Hollywood's top dogs, but you have to wonder what the hell Ward Kimball did on the side in order to not only afford a house with a backyard that was bigger than Walt's, but to also afford a whole damn TRAIN that was bigger than Walt's.

    • @Iden326
      @Iden326 Před 4 lety +29

      Let the record show though, Lilian still got her garden though, that was the only way Walt was going to get that railroad in his backyard.

  • @kabj06
    @kabj06 Před 4 lety +789

    Disney's Wife: NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD A TRAIN WHERE I WANTED THE GARDEN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    Walt Disney: haha train go choo choo

    • @benedictdwyer2608
      @benedictdwyer2608 Před 3 lety +50

      A compromise: 👏train👏garden👏

    • @3xfaster
      @3xfaster Před 3 lety +9

      Haha choo choo go woooooo

    • @thedevilgoose2482
      @thedevilgoose2482 Před 3 lety +18

      @@benedictdwyer2608 Train garden became pretty iconic, so I'd say it worked out.

    • @benedictdwyer2608
      @benedictdwyer2608 Před 3 lety +5

      @@thedevilgoose2482 indeed

    • @IrisCorven
      @IrisCorven Před 3 lety +21

      @@benedictdwyer2608 I'm imagining a bunch of train cars filled with soil and herbs/vegetables. Pretty fucking neat idea.

  • @shinytogebre
    @shinytogebre Před 4 lety +711

    Disney really walked up to that artist said hi, bought that train before him, and just left him there. 😂😂

    • @Wiccanwolf08
      @Wiccanwolf08 Před 4 lety +153

      Walt:" Hey, friend. I see you like trains. *eye train set* I also like trains. My name is Walt Disney and I make movies in America. *inches closer to train set* Say, would you like to work for this new park I'm thinking about opening? It's..uh...*inches closer* gonna have trains in it. Okay, well, I'll...see ya later. Call me." *snatches train set and runs like hell*

    • @ShootingStarNeo
      @ShootingStarNeo Před 4 lety +92

      The guy turning up later back in America like “give me my goddamn train, Walt.”

    • @drewgehringer7813
      @drewgehringer7813 Před 3 lety +22

      And then that guy went on to do design work for Disney's 20,000 leagues under the sea adaption

    • @Mrtrainlover679
      @Mrtrainlover679 Před 3 lety +20

      Funniest part is, that engine was never even run on the Carolwood in the end. When it was being shipped over sea water leaked into the hold and got to it. It was fixable but by the time it got back to Walt, he was busy with Disneyland and well, we know what happened from there. It’s on display in his barn now

    • @smallmailman3992
      @smallmailman3992 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Mrtrainlover679 like, the one at live steamers? I’ve been to that barn before lol.

  • @Shanapoo7
    @Shanapoo7 Před 4 lety +798

    A ringing endorsement for Coney Island: 'We made Walt Disney almost give up.'

    • @gabe_s_videos
      @gabe_s_videos Před 4 lety +62

      As someone who lives right near Coney Island, it almost makes me feel a little patriotic. XD

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 Před rokem

      Ohio...pfft.

    • @brennonkrooninc
      @brennonkrooninc Před 7 měsíci +1

      "by being so terrible, dirty, and run down"

  • @Tyler-Thompson
    @Tyler-Thompson Před 4 lety +406

    “Walt was broken, and depressed. And he had no idea what to do about it”
    *Happy music begins*

    • @Claubuza
      @Claubuza Před 4 lety +29

      My depressive episodes play out just like that.

    • @LittleZbot
      @LittleZbot Před 4 lety +2

      Never thought I’d see someone who had no idea what Dixie was or why it’s so important, but here we are.

    • @balalaika9114
      @balalaika9114 Před 4 lety +1

      LittleZbot Y’know, could be the objectively better Union version but that chance is slim

    • @hlavco
      @hlavco Před 4 lety

      @@LittleZbot Everybody has to learn the things that "everybody knows" at some point.

    • @Lightwolf234
      @Lightwolf234 Před 4 lety

      Hey the modern mood, or had it always just been the mood for most of history

  • @xww6849
    @xww6849 Před 4 lety +1295

    I love how this season of Defunctland is a true SEASON, with fully plotted out storytelling. Season 2, by the end, told the story of Michael Eisner’s downfall, but this season has a genuine arc about how Disneyland came to be. I’m excited to see where this season goes.

    • @somerandomidioticnerd9769
      @somerandomidioticnerd9769 Před 4 lety +15

      Same, I never expected to be so into the story of a theme park of all things, but I suppose that's just the effects of good writing

    • @pisces2569
      @pisces2569 Před 4 lety +9

      Xorn Was Wrong speaking of Michael Eisner, I’m shocked he wasn’t mentioned in this video

    • @TheZackofSpades
      @TheZackofSpades Před 2 lety +5

      I am significantly late to the party, but yes I agree. When I realized this was unpacking the psyche and trauma of Walt himself...deconstructing his anxiety and flaws...ooooo boy I was ready to binge the heck out of this. Sheer brilliance in storytelling all the way through.

  • @missybarbour6885
    @missybarbour6885 Před 4 lety +1550

    This has the most accurate look at Disney's simplification of history I've ever heard. Nobody was actively trying to erase the dark elements of American history, he just had some prescription strength nostalgia goggles. It's not an accurate view of history and it's a problem when children are learning that it is, but the story was personal to Walt and no adult views their childhood accurately. "The past is another country. They do things differently there."

    • @staticcharm3808
      @staticcharm3808 Před 4 lety +81

      Accurate views of history don't really exist though. Everyone looks at history through the perspective of their present lives. Modern historians didn't live in the times they studied and can only give you interpretations gathered through writings and other media along with their own opinions. Once the people who actually lived during those times die off, then we lose the abiltiy to really understand the times they lived in.

    • @supermonkey321
      @supermonkey321 Před 4 lety +99

      I think people criticizing the romanticized version of history that Walt wanted to present totally miss the point. It's not supposed to be reality. It is a nostalgic fantasy of history, but that is the entire purpose, to tap into nostalgia and good feelings and make it a place of fun and joy. A real representation of history wouldn't be fun, and wouldn't make people happy to visit. He was making an amusement park, not a history textbook come to life. I love the idealized fictional version of history that Disney presents, and wish the parks today still had more of it, seeing as a lot of it has been replaced by other things these days. As someone with an actual degree in history, I love that nostalgia for a long lost time that never truly existed. That was always one of my favorite things about the Disney parks and Walt's vision for what he wanted them to be.

    • @frenchbreadstupidity7054
      @frenchbreadstupidity7054 Před 4 lety +71

      @@supermonkey321 There is a problem with most old interpretations of American history, whether accurate or inaccurate. Even when they had a moral behind them that we accept nowadays - that colonialism is bad, that racism is wrong, etc - they were written for white people, mostly out of ignorance that they may ever have any other audience, and as a result are automatically racist in an old-timey way that you can't really blame, but can phase out. They take the perspective of a white person visiting a non-white culture, and the culture is good because this white person can learn to love it. Or, it provides first-time theoretical experiences with other races to the sheltered white reader. Or, when it's about representing the past as happy times, it crafts guiltless happiness for the white viewer. It is still glaringly obvious to the black or native viewer that they are the 'other' and that their ancestors were abused and oppressed, except now it's not even being acknowledged as bad by the white people who make wishes for that past to return.

    • @TiberianFiend
      @TiberianFiend Před 4 lety +28

      It's funny that the people who accuse others of historical revisionism are the ones trying to revise history.

    • @frenchbreadstupidity7054
      @frenchbreadstupidity7054 Před 4 lety +67

      @@TiberianFiend Both Native Americans and African slaves had writing systems, they just weren't widely used- similar to the Celts, their purposes were symbolism and art, not communication. And as an archaologist I can tell you that there is a lot of history that is not written but can still be recorded with a high level of accuracy.
      For example, we know that slaves with origins in Nigeria, even while working on plantation practiced a ritual where they gave offerings to water gods just like they had in their home country, and passed it on for several generations. With their limited possessions, all they had to give was pottery, and these offerings had an African symbol of eternal life carved into them.
      Shipwrecks carrying slaves that never made it to the US, also give a glimpse into a frozen moment of time- how movement was restricted, what food was available, what illnesses may have affected them etc.
      We can also trace back African American families to maternal and paternal tribes in Africa using genetics.
      Oral tradition is also remarkably accurate, with stories of migration and natural disasters often holding up against the archaeological evidence. And many slaves could write, as they were scribes for their masters and misses. They would even send letters to each other.
      Plus, if European records say that this Native American settlement was ambushed and attacked here and so many died, why would omitting it be more accurate to history, than admitting that it was a tragic massacre?
      By no means is the history of Africans and Natives in the USA, a fabricated history. In fact, history is more complete when we include them in the whole story.

  • @KazuTree
    @KazuTree Před 4 lety +690

    The one time I ever played Polo, I rolled off the horse and got kicked in the chest. So yeah, Polo can be a pretty dang dangerous game. Finally! It's not entirely Walt's fault this time!

    • @user-cm4dm3pt8c
      @user-cm4dm3pt8c Před 4 lety +20

      I see that Nick Robinson pfp
      Ok bye I'm going to Japan

    • @KazuTree
      @KazuTree Před 4 lety +13

      @@user-cm4dm3pt8c no joke, I just got back from a japan trip, and I was debating on checking to see if the sticker was still in the SEGA office

    • @user-cm4dm3pt8c
      @user-cm4dm3pt8c Před 4 lety +6

      @@KazuTree I'm actually going to Japan later this year (if curona dosen't affect flights too much) and I'm contemplating on making a calling card. I mean, Sega does own Persona 5.

    • @Gravydog316
      @Gravydog316 Před 4 lety +5

      I BLAME MICHAEL EISNER!

    • @ArendAlphaEagle
      @ArendAlphaEagle Před 4 lety

      しᑌᗰᏆ ᗷᖇᝪᝪᏦ Something something... Pappy Van Poodle

  • @roland4240
    @roland4240 Před 4 lety +98

    Mrs. Disney: "Walt honey, could you help me pick up some flowers for a garden?"
    Walt: *pausing halfway through unloading miniature railway track out of his truck* "garden?"

  • @MrDohers
    @MrDohers Před 4 lety +575

    Nobody:
    Walt Disney: OMG, TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS!!! CHOO CHOO, LETS GO!!!

  • @nodesire9291
    @nodesire9291 Před 4 lety +1278

    Imagine if they kept the Mickey Mouse Park name. I wonder what Disney World would have been called. Mickey Mouse Super Park?

  • @ElFreakinCid
    @ElFreakinCid Před 4 lety +408

    When you mentioned all the things and people Walt had lost in those few short years, I'm surprised you forgot to mention his mother. She died during production of Pinocchio. In 1938, Walt bought his parents a house and had one of the studio guys fix up the furnace. Days after his parents moved in, his mom died due to a gas leak when that furnace broke. Walt blamed himself for his mom's death and it haunted him for the rest of his life.
    Apparently this is why there are so many dead mothers in Disney movies. That was Walt's way of coping.

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark Před rokem +20

      That explains quite a lot.

    • @rwall514
      @rwall514 Před rokem +27

      @@jennyg9131 Perhaps that's WHY he adapted them.

    • @gabe_s_videos
      @gabe_s_videos Před rokem +26

      Walt using the "dead mother" trope as a coping mechanism sounds more like a rumor IMO, for a couple of reasons:
      one, I know I've seen at least one interview where one of the Nine Old Men flat-out said that they did it purely for dramatic effect and there was no symbolism to it at all (ie, the curtains are blue because the author said they are). Don't ask me who it was or which interview, I just know I saw it lol.
      two (and I'm sorry, I'm about to be an absolute nerd here), despite it's reputation as a cliche, there aren't actually that many Disney movies, much less ones made during Walt's lifetime, where the mother and ONLY the mother is dead. More often than not, they're straight up orphans (Snow White, Cinderella, Mowgli, Peter Pan, etc.). Aurora has both parents, Alice has both parents, the 101 Dalmatians have both parents, Pinocchio technically has no parents, Dumbo has ONLY his mother and no father, the dogs in Lady & The Tramp don't have or even really need parents... not even Bambi's mom fits that cliche, since she dies DURING the movie rather than before. Even in the movies made after Walt died, including the few he still had some hand in the development of like Aristocats and Robin Hood, more often than not (Simba, Cody, Tiana, Dutches's kittens), it's the FATHER who's missing or dies. Otherwise, they're just orphans or their parents aren't relevant to the story. I think only Ariel, Belle, Jasmine and Pocahontas are the only character to explicitly have dead mothers, and those were all from one particular span of time.
      So while I'm sure Walt losing his mother like that had SOME effect on his creativity, I don't think it was that autobiographical.
      Then again, I never met the guy, so who's to say?

    • @ElFreakinCid
      @ElFreakinCid Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@gabe_s_videos I mean, the timing certainly adds up, doesn't it? I have no doubt that it had some lasting effect on him, even if not to quite the extent that the story says.

    • @gabe_s_videos
      @gabe_s_videos Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@ElFreakinCid I'm sure it would've had an effect on him no matter what.

  • @SnapperChannel
    @SnapperChannel Před 4 lety +656

    What I’ve been enjoying about these recent Defucntland videos is how all these at first glance unrelated theme park histories and the company party would all tie into Walt Disney and the creation of Disneyland. It shows the sides of Disney many don’t see and gives a more human look at one of pop culture’s biggest icons. Keep up the great work Kevin.

    • @NotaPizzaGRL
      @NotaPizzaGRL Před 3 lety +11

      What I like the most about this series is how it shows the devevlopment of amusement parks. While it has a sense of hagiography to it it's interesting to see all the concepts and earlier parks (successful and failed) which influenced the designs of Disneyland and Disney World.

  • @RariettyC
    @RariettyC Před 3 lety +303

    It's honestly insane how quickly Disneyland was built. Like, only a year to construct a whole damn theme park (especially the first of its scope and quality) from an empty lot? I know that Disney doesn't actually operate on magic and pixie dust, but that's pure wizardry.

    • @None-Trick_Pony
      @None-Trick_Pony Před rokem +14

      @Mani4c94 I'm more surprised it's lasted this long. Pioneering things like this tends to produce an unstable product, especially when you spend every red cent on it. Once the problems become apparent, someone else will copy your idea with said problems in mind while you divert all your profits trying to fix them.

  • @WhaleManMan
    @WhaleManMan Před 4 lety +198

    Kimbell: Yeah, last weekend, I was working on my new train I just bought.
    Walt:
    Walt:
    Kimbell: Why are you breathing on my neck.

    • @traindude70
      @traindude70 Před 4 lety +22

      If you go to Disney Land. One of the locomotives in the park is named the Ward Kimball for a reason

  • @carolineh.1925
    @carolineh.1925 Před 4 lety +372

    Walt Disney was really just that asdfmovies train kid, huh

  • @blazenor922
    @blazenor922 Před 4 lety +243

    Disney comment on Coney Island made me laugh more than it should.

    • @KimuMiyamoto
      @KimuMiyamoto Před 4 lety +12

      We've all had moments like that. Super excited about a project, see one bad example, and nearly decide "screw it!"

  • @Igorcastrochucre
    @Igorcastrochucre Před 4 lety +755

    The abridged version of the story makes Walt look like a visionary, talented and gifted.
    This version makes him look human.
    Edit: I need to express myself better: The short version of the story, albeit sweet, lacks all of the depth by omitting the struggles, hard work and the kind of person Walt was, essentially turning into a fantasy.
    The Defunctland version, by choosing to reveal stuff that would break that fantasy, reminding us that Walt was still a person, making all of his and his team's sacrifices and the skepticism of those around him being proven wrong a far more compelling narrative.

    • @dgdnite1
      @dgdnite1 Před 4 lety +46

      The long version still makes him out to be a visionary, talented, and gifted. It takes a special person to create what he did, bring together the team of artists and engineers, and then lead them through a project of the magnitude that was Disneyland. He, it are an inspiration of what a human and humanity can accomplish.

    • @robradical7213
      @robradical7213 Před 4 lety +27

      He was a human. But also a visionary who was talented and gifted.

    • @StamfordBridge
      @StamfordBridge Před 4 lety +33

      He was a dolphin. A talented, visionary dolphin who dreamed of being human, just like the rest of us dolphins.

    • @armchairrocketscientist4934
      @armchairrocketscientist4934 Před 4 lety +19

      I agree. This is something I love about deeper dives into history. You realize that the people of the past were just as stressed as we are of the difficulties of life, and that we all have good and bad traits.
      A nice lesson I also see here, is that not just the execution, but the inspiration of the idea of Disneyland took many people and places influencing Walt. He deserves a lot of credit, but everyone involved should be remembered alongside him.

  • @Winter_337
    @Winter_337 Před 4 lety +202

    Ward Kimball is a hero to toy train collectors. He owned one of the most extensive collections of early toy trains from both America and Europe ranging from the late 1800's to the 1940's and beyond, plus his thin gauge rail road in his back yard. His passing in 2002 was deeply sad for all in the hobby

  • @TheYipee99
    @TheYipee99 Před 4 lety +550

    I really love how we always get a deep look into the psychology of Walt with these videos. It adds some humanity to a man whom we of the newer generation have been told was perfect.

    • @EngineerLume
      @EngineerLume Před 4 lety +116

      A lot of the modern opinion of Walt is either "He was a perfect being" or "He was entertainments greatest monster." Stuff like this is a nice antidote that shows he was more complex than we want him to be.

    • @Hesperell
      @Hesperell Před 4 lety +36

      What newer generation? Are you 80? I'm 27, and when I was growing up, if you said something positive about American history you got sent to the guidance counselor with a Post-it note saying "High F scale. Possible right-wing authoritarianism case. Requires intervention."

    • @TheYipee99
      @TheYipee99 Před 4 lety +35

      @@Hesperell I'm 21. I'm talking about people at my age and those younger than me.
      Edit: and I'm not talking about American history. I'm talking about Walt as a human being versus the infallible god figure pop culture has immortalized him as.

    • @TheYipee99
      @TheYipee99 Před 4 lety +4

      @@EngineerLume Yes. I agree. It's very fascinating

    • @Yakkolicious
      @Yakkolicious Před 4 lety +39

      Walt Disney was a human. He smoked a lot, he made bad decisions, he learned from his mistakes. He wasn't perfect, but he isn't the monster we make him out to be. Michael Eisner and Bob Iger, on the other hand...

  • @Videogamefanmax
    @Videogamefanmax Před 4 lety +223

    "Although various sections will have the fun and flavor of a carnival or amusement park, there will be none of the pitches, games, wheels, sharp practices and devices designed to milk the visitor's pocketbook."
    God damn that statement hits like a two-ton train in todays disneyland.

    • @nightspawnson-of-luna4936
      @nightspawnson-of-luna4936 Před 2 lety +20

      You can't help but wonder how he'd feel about the way they do things now... It's something that wouldn't just apply to disney, but life in general...

    • @clyne8835
      @clyne8835 Před 2 lety +10

      @@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 Walt isn't just rolling in his grave, he's doing fucking back flips in there

    • @jasonthejazzman8521
      @jasonthejazzman8521 Před rokem +3

      And you know how much Walt loved his trains

  • @fluzzard7578
    @fluzzard7578 Před 4 lety +282

    Wife wanted Garden, builds small rideable railroad. Yep, sounds like Walt.

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 Před 4 lety +20

      Ryan Harding She pushed for GardenLand as one of the themed lands in DisneyLand also.

    • @tikirowboat
      @tikirowboat Před 4 lety +11

      Oh if Lillian had only lived to see EPCOT Flower and Garden Festival.

  • @johnnytheratface
    @johnnytheratface Před 4 lety +496

    Can we take a second to appreciate all of the work and research that goes into these videos

  • @alexbobroff
    @alexbobroff Před 4 lety +228

    There is some acknowledgement of Mickey Mouse Park at Disneyland today. Inside Main Street City Hall behind one of the counters is one of the concept drawings of Mickey Mouse Park.

    • @Elizabeth-lv5dj
      @Elizabeth-lv5dj Před 4 lety +5

      AlexFilms1000 Oh man that’s so cool. I live by WDW and are there any there that you know of?

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark Před 2 lety +1

      I feel that's progress.

  • @Aqua_Toad
    @Aqua_Toad Před 4 lety +182

    Thank you. Ken Anderson is my cousin and we very rarely ever hear his name despite having a building named after him in Disneyland and his working for Disney for the better part of 50 years. Seriously thank you!

  • @fifthrider
    @fifthrider Před 4 lety +114

    15:04 - So grateful to hear you mention Korkis by name. There's a lot of YT channels that do Disney history ( few as good as yours ) but almost none of them acknowledge Jim, even when they're quite literally reading from his book, word for word. A real historian doesn't mind giving a nod to the guy who did the original work. Well done.

  • @oneandonlysound3453
    @oneandonlysound3453 Před 4 lety +126

    Walt Disney when going to Coney Island:
    "I'm almost ready to give up on the idea of an amusement park after seeing Coney Island. The whole place is so run down and ugly. The people that run it are so unpleasant. The whole thing is almost enough to destroy your faith in human nature."
    Sorry Walt, but it hasn't changed a bit-it just puts on a false face these days.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Před 4 lety +17

      It *has* gotten better. Nowadays there's a street gang modeling themselves after a cult-classic 70's movie that goes around helping people in need.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 4 lety +6

      I don't know. The Coney Island of late 1940's is not the Coney Island of its heyday pre WW1. Had the original Steeplechase, Luna, and Dreamland parks remain, it would have been a massive influence to Walt Disney given how these places used to have exitic attractions and rides...

    • @apocalypsepreventionagency
      @apocalypsepreventionagency Před 3 lety +1

      And now Taylor Swift has a depressing song named after it

  • @Mornings
    @Mornings Před 4 lety +176

    Even though Im not all that intrigued by the topic of Disney in general I always find myself interested in these videos. Something about the passion behind them makes it endearing.

  • @txgdarkness6960
    @txgdarkness6960 Před 4 lety +140

    I saw this notification, clicked it, and instantly got sucked into this history video

    • @MsDisneylandlover
      @MsDisneylandlover Před 4 lety +1

      me loved all it at missing disneyland this is good to watch

  • @alexanderszewc9448
    @alexanderszewc9448 Před 4 lety +82

    Hearing how Walt acted as a kid in a candy shop around trains after depression made me smile...
    Maybe it could help me..

  • @BuddyL
    @BuddyL Před 4 lety +71

    20:30: Thank you for mentioning *Children's Fairy Land* in Oakland. 🌳🏰 That place is a source of local pride here in the Bay Area - not just for its well-known influence on Disneyland, but also as a local landmark.❤

  • @schizoscarecrow
    @schizoscarecrow Před 4 lety +155

    So Disneyland came almost directly from Walt Disney having a midlife crisis. Good to know.
    This is the kind of neat content we come here for.

  • @vurvo574
    @vurvo574 Před 4 lety +61

    I like this more human side of Walt. He’s not perfect, no one is. He makes mistakes and can be seen as selfish but his talent and creativity is still there and he is still one heck of a guy.

  • @ParisHoney1998
    @ParisHoney1998 Před 4 lety +42

    Walt's depression turned obsession with revising his (painful?) childhood reminds me a lot of Michael Jackson and his Neverland. I can see why Walt, with all his problems in regards to politics and personality, was such a hero of his. I'd really love to see an in-depth analysis of the creation of Neverland, but the story's ending would be too much for this channel for an infinite amount of reasons.

  • @andrewweinstein7740
    @andrewweinstein7740 Před 4 lety +130

    Damn! Polo is a deadly sport

    • @mmmlinux
      @mmmlinux Před 4 lety +12

      If you were playing with Walt, apparently.

    • @bud9450
      @bud9450 Před 4 lety +18

      Walt lost the game....
      People lost their lives...💀😈

    • @behindthescenesphotos5133
      @behindthescenesphotos5133 Před 4 lety +18

      It doesn't take much to fall off a horse and get stepped on.

    • @bud9450
      @bud9450 Před 4 lety +11

      @@behindthescenesphotos5133
      Yup, or get kicked straight through the chest.🐴

    • @thekavh
      @thekavh Před 4 lety +7

      Walt fell off his horse and broke his neck. His injury was so bad that he didn’t notice the pain from the lung cancer that killed him.

  • @JonathanRodd
    @JonathanRodd Před 4 lety +118

    When he started talking about Disney building miniature ride-able trains on his property, all I could think of was Reverend Lovejoy from The Simpsons. Which is funny, because Rev Lovejoy is often depicted as having lost his passion and taking comfort in trains. Maybe the Simpsons writers were aware of this aspect of Walt Disney's life and took some inspiration from it :)

    • @icecreamhero2375
      @icecreamhero2375 Před 4 lety +1

      I thought of Rev. Lovejoy too.

    • @nadiacyganowski9083
      @nadiacyganowski9083 Před 4 lety

      I wouldn’t be surprised.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 4 lety +9

      With Ned Flanders constantly calling on him asking Christian advice for trivial matters, who wouldn't lose that passion? I mean he spent all that time learning the way of the Lord only to spend a good chunk of his time being a pastor listening to a fanatic finding biblical answers to common sense questions...

    • @ralphjackson2518
      @ralphjackson2518 Před rokem

      I think that's more directly a Wilbert Awdry reference.

  • @ericnelson8422
    @ericnelson8422 Před 4 lety +72

    Life has been rough lately - depressing, uninspiring - to hear this incredibly well researched history of the creation of Disneyland is a tonic!! Defunctland just gets better and better! Thank you Kevin!

  • @richardkitterman3541
    @richardkitterman3541 Před 4 lety +131

    I've seen Ward Kimball's trains at the Orange Empire Railway Museum -- fantastic place and thanks for mentioning that part of Disney history!

    • @andyjay729
      @andyjay729 Před 4 lety +6

      Another one of Walt's "Nine Old Men" animators, Ollie Johnston, also had a backyard railroad. You can see his trains at the Travel Town Museum in Griffith Park.

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak Před 4 lety

      @@andyjay729 Nice!

  • @armchairrocketscientist4934
    @armchairrocketscientist4934 Před 4 lety +102

    14:10 - this is a great statement here. Just as it's important to be honest when speaking historically about less savory aspects of an individual's life, it's important to be honest about when they were mistakenly accused.
    Thanks for your clear view of history.

  • @marcusblackwell2372
    @marcusblackwell2372 Před 4 lety +244

    I do believe if Walt Disney was alive in the 80s, he would go ga-ga over Thomas The Tank Engine

    • @JCBro-yg8vd
      @JCBro-yg8vd Před 4 lety +21

      Thomas didn't come to the U.S. until the 90's. I'm not sure what Walt would've thought of that little tank engine brought over from the U.K.

    • @marcusblackwell2372
      @marcusblackwell2372 Před 4 lety +23

      @@JCBro-yg8vd he'd probably think it weird & wonderful

    • @spyrothehuman
      @spyrothehuman Před 4 lety +32

      Disney might have bought the company outright.

    • @marcusblackwell2372
      @marcusblackwell2372 Před 4 lety +5

      @@spyrothehuman no. I highly doubt. I mean, Thomas was for a time owned by HIT Entertainment. Then it shut down then Mattel came in & was given all its properties. Unless I didn't see it online, I don't think it was bought by Disney

    • @spyrothehuman
      @spyrothehuman Před 4 lety +22

      @@marcusblackwell2372 I'm saying Disney as in Walt. Given this scenairo

  • @s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657
    @s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657 Před 4 lety +61

    I just started watching this channel...the quaranteen binge I didn't know I needed.

  • @JaysArft
    @JaysArft Před 4 lety +43

    I always love the custom openings

  • @sharksNstuff2029
    @sharksNstuff2029 Před 4 lety +78

    I find it interesting how a lot of the more successful business ventures often were one person/business looking at various others works and realizing they can take the best of all of them and make something greater (having the money also helps). I wonder if we never got Disney would one of the other theme parks like Knottsberry have stepped up or would someone else have got it?
    Fantastic video as always!

  • @Kirkklan
    @Kirkklan Před 4 lety +130

    Walt: Hey guys, let's say wee build a park o'er here
    Everyone else: Walt...
    Walt: Nah, let's make it bigger
    Everyone else: Walt pls...

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Před 4 lety +6

      *"You fool, that will never work!"*

    • @MrDisneyguy
      @MrDisneyguy Před 4 lety +7

      Otaking Mikohani look they built “me land” and it worked

  • @armchairrocketscientist4934

    I've always loved trains, so growing up, Walt seemed like the coolest person ever. If someone ever says it's odd to be so obsessed with trains, one can kindly remind them that from a certain point of view, obsession with trains gave us Disneyland.
    We also have a model railroad (based in 1930s Idaho) and I, like Walt's experience got to pull a locomotive whistle once. Heber Valley Railroad around 2002. Probably the coolest moment of my childhood.

    • @EngineerLume
      @EngineerLume Před 4 lety +7

      I have a grandad who's obsessed with trains, and if my family ever go to a proper big-boy theme park we have all agreed to take photos and videos just for him.

    • @TufteMotorsport
      @TufteMotorsport Před 4 lety +5

      My father have the basement filled with the local trainline anno 1991 in the basement. I went over to build Lego models, but still enjoy building trains with him from time to time.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Před 4 lety +1

      My parents had this friend with a rideable train layout in their yard. I remember having a lot of fun riding it as a kid. Sadly he passed away and his widow had to downsize, which involved selling the train.

    • @armchairrocketscientist4934
      @armchairrocketscientist4934 Před 4 lety +1

      @@otaking3582 Ah, that's sad to hear. Live steam railroading is such a fascinating hobby though. I recommend taking a look at The Steam Channel, a channel see dedicated to the topic. Some people have built some crazy stuff.

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 Před 4 lety +1

      @@armchairrocketscientist4934 Thanks, I'll check 'em out

  • @brendancorey7831
    @brendancorey7831 Před 2 lety +20

    I love and have a hyperfixation on trains and art so seeing Walt have the same two hobbies kinda makes me think he at least was more human than I thought

  • @TheLiberaceTheory
    @TheLiberaceTheory Před 4 lety +34

    Thank you for making these videos-- I love to watch them and connect with my history. My grandfather was one of the first workers at Disneyland-- he worked in the Main Street Bakery after he was displaced from his previous job: working in the orange and avocado groves where Disneyland now stands. My grandfather had a love of machines, having updated the harvesting machines in the groves to more effectively catch avocados from the trees without bruising them. Years down the road, he combined his love of machines and his experience in the bakery to invent the packaging machinery now used to make Pillsbury Grand Rolls. He invented ketchup packets as well using the same technology. When my dad inherited the business, my Dad went on to invent Barbecue Sauce Cups and Gogurt. It's amazing to see how a little mouse changed all of our families for generations...!

    • @XCryssieX
      @XCryssieX Před 4 lety +3

      That's amazing!

    • @edwardspidermonkey
      @edwardspidermonkey Před 3 lety +7

      You’re like Gretchen Weiner but real: “my father, the inventor of gogurt...”

  • @fennecwolfox
    @fennecwolfox Před 4 lety +69

    I'm almost sure Walt would be both astounded and disgusted by what Disneyland has grown to be. A place that absolutely milks its customers of money, but is also a place a lot of people remember fondly.

    • @queenmedesa
      @queenmedesa Před rokem +8

      And it's full of non-Disney crap

  • @rebeccaucich1290
    @rebeccaucich1290 Před 4 lety +18

    I like that Defunctland never really tries to spin a particular villain or hero narrative...just complex human people & their weird machines

  • @richieballpitbee4190
    @richieballpitbee4190 Před 4 lety +12

    It was a pleasure working on the art for this episode! And what a great episode too! Right up my alley! Disney and Trains! Who can go wrong with that!

  • @SoleaGalilei
    @SoleaGalilei Před 4 lety +20

    I really appreciate the way you handle controversial and disturbing topics that come up in your videos. You're always honest and fair. I can tell you put a lot of work into writing your narration.

  • @sharkenleo
    @sharkenleo Před 4 lety +61

    Imagineering Story - Episode 0

  • @britishchick09
    @britishchick09 Před 4 lety +49

    Walt: "I like trains." :)

  • @itsturt
    @itsturt Před 4 lety +31

    I am once again blown away by the level of quality Defunctland has. This entire channel should be considered essential viewing for any Disney/theme park fan! I have learned so much here, and I have a very deep level of respect for all of these well researched, beautifully written, and masterfully edited videos. Thank you for everything, Kevin and team, and please keep up the fantastic work!

  • @IAmMisterTterevel
    @IAmMisterTterevel Před 4 lety +15

    Fun Fact: They filmed most of the live-action scenes of 'So Dear to My Heart' at Kimbal's Grizzly Flats Railway.
    So you can say that film was literally shot in someone's backyard.

  • @BlakeGrigsby
    @BlakeGrigsby Před 4 lety +78

    And here I was thinking I've seen and learned everything about Disney CZcams has to offer! Well done! I actually learned a lot of new things.

  • @jdude9365
    @jdude9365 Před 4 lety +38

    We’re getting closer and closer to the opening of Disneyland, folks! Fantastic job, Kevin!

    • @steamerfan2212
      @steamerfan2212 Před 4 lety +1

      Re-opening you mean

    • @jdude9365
      @jdude9365 Před 4 lety +5

      I meant in Kevin’s story.

    • @theotherghostgirl337
      @theotherghostgirl337 Před 4 lety +2

      JDude 93 it’s sad that u had to clarify

    • @steamerfan2212
      @steamerfan2212 Před 4 lety

      @@jdude9365 oh ok

    • @jdude9365
      @jdude9365 Před 4 lety +3

      Why do I get the feeling that the DefunctTV episode coming this week is gonna cover the original Disneyland TV show from the 50’s?

  • @jstyxx4110
    @jstyxx4110 Před 4 lety +30

    Walt’s friends died during polo?
    *THERES NOTHING IN THE WORLD LIKE POLO PARK*

  • @mollysministuff
    @mollysministuff Před 3 lety +8

    This story is much more interesting and inspiring then "I was just watching my kids playing and thinking, why not have a place for everyone to have fun?"

  • @prospectnyc
    @prospectnyc Před 4 lety +20

    I've been binging on Disney history videos for the past few months and this is by far one of the absolute best. Nicely done! Thank you!

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 4 lety +16

    He went from losing his friends, studio, and hobby to obsessing over trains and the idea of building a theme park in Burbank? Well that took an interesting turn, luckily his passion was brought back

  • @higginswalsan
    @higginswalsan Před 4 lety +19

    I can’t wait until the finale. I’ve got a feeling it might be the failure of a certain “land” on its opening day.....

  • @CascadianRanger
    @CascadianRanger Před 4 lety +3

    You 110% should have a show on Disney Plus. Your passion for the subject matter is clear, your skills already on par with netflix level docs as seen with your Jim Henson series, and your only improving with every single video. Get the Bob's on the phone with this man!

  • @wafflefalafel9442
    @wafflefalafel9442 Před 4 lety +27

    Wait-I want to know more about the polo deaths. That’s the real story here!

    • @BunkerFox
      @BunkerFox Před 3 lety +1

      Just find a game of Polo on youtube and you'll see why it's dangerous having loads of people charging about on horses swinging mallets around

  • @chrisms_96
    @chrisms_96 Před 4 lety +4

    The first time I read that Walt Disney drew inspiration from our very own Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Michigan, it really touched my heart. My Grandfather was a Ford employee and worked in the building right next to The Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village. My family have been patrons there for decades (and my brother is employed there). To realize that such a humble, albeit very historically significant attraction played a role in inspiring Disney's empire of theme parks is really special to me.

  • @KimuMiyamoto
    @KimuMiyamoto Před 4 lety +11

    What a wholesome video! I'll admit sometimes I stay away from learning too much about Walt Disney and his company and people, not wanting to learn something horrible. But this video, besides being hopeful, helps encourage that hey, it's ok to not embrace every gritty detail. You can focus on the stuff that makes you happy, as long as you're aware there's always more to it.

  • @EnsignGeneric
    @EnsignGeneric Před 2 lety +8

    Wild to think how out of bounds it must have felt to be the first engineer working for Disney, considering nowadays the company probably employs more engineers and technicians than most aircraft manufacturers.

  • @MHTutorials3D
    @MHTutorials3D Před 4 lety +9

    Outstanding video

  • @StealingFocus
    @StealingFocus Před 4 lety +9

    I've been to Tivoli Gardens! It's a freakin' trip, it feels like another Disney park with the Matterhorn and everything.

  • @nicka5040
    @nicka5040 Před 4 lety +7

    I've probably had one of the shittiest weeks of my life, so thank you for uploading something so optimistic and motivational.

  • @JazminesJizz
    @JazminesJizz Před 4 lety +6

    So good to have this content while the park is currently closed, it’s like still having a piece of Disney magic , thank you Kevin

  • @dakotatrotter3940
    @dakotatrotter3940 Před 4 lety +7

    Thank you. With so much uncertainty of health, stability in work, and clarity of one’s own future right now, this was a wonderful bright spot. Keep it up Kevin.

  • @marthieb9117
    @marthieb9117 Před 4 lety +8

    tivoli is amazing! It’s also interesting how it’s inevitably taken influence from disney as well through the 60’s small world aesthetic which I’m pretty sure it uses in a mother goose ride as well as a theater and restaurant (?) i‘ve only been there once and am trying to remember what had that look. It’s so different than any other theme park in either Europe or the rest of the world as while it has some of the signature « manufactured history » that main street in Disney has, part of it is bordered by older royal buildings. Even though tivoli is far from defunct - most locals have season passes just to go to the restaurants, and many others enjoy its rides - I’d love to see a video on it. I haven’t seen any video as in depth as these on the park!

  • @Number9Robotic
    @Number9Robotic Před 4 lety +26

    Getting Jenny Nicholson vibes from the way you described how Walt Disney loved trains lol

    • @TheBibliophiliac
      @TheBibliophiliac Před 4 lety

      I was reminded that she was going to do a sequel that deals with Galaxy's Edge and trains. However, I'm respecting that she's still recovering from an illness.

  • @rossblack6930
    @rossblack6930 Před 4 lety +4

    8:23 is an incredible visual parallel between Tivoli Park, a clear inspiration, and the Rivers of America, looking out from either Splash Mountain at WDW or Haunted Mansion at Disneyland. What an excellent eye to include this!

  • @Inlelendri
    @Inlelendri Před 4 lety +3

    I wasn't prepared for Tivoli (or Tivoli Gardens, if you prefer) to show up here, of all places. Huh. That was a lovely surprise - and thank you for being so careful and correct with the pronunciation of both the park and its founder. That was an extra treat on top of an informative and lovely episode :D

  • @Thumper17
    @Thumper17 Před 2 lety +4

    It's kind of wild that Walt Disney is on vacation in Europe, buying souvenirs, this other guy wants the same toy as Walt and Walt looks at him like. "Oh, train guy? Nice. What do you do for work?" "Oh I do art." "Sweet, come design my theme park."
    Man, the 40s were wild.

  • @TheAssholeAspie
    @TheAssholeAspie Před 4 lety +7

    It's great to see so many content creators alive and well during the virus. I know work is difficult, but we appreciate everything you do, Kevin. Even if things get serious or difficult, keep up the amazing work.

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 Před 3 lety

      Casey Johnson
      People like ELECTR0 and Defunctland here.

  • @charlessaint7926
    @charlessaint7926 Před 2 lety +16

    Trains can turn even the most mature adults into happy children.

  • @grenbaygrl1
    @grenbaygrl1 Před 4 lety +9

    Kevin, I am always so impressed by how professional and high-quality these videos are. Great job to you and everyone who helped on this video!

  • @MrFreedomFries
    @MrFreedomFries Před 4 lety +10

    I love this channel. I thought you had peaked after the excellent series on Henson. Looks like I was wrong. Looking forward to this new series.

  • @Alpha0727
    @Alpha0727 Před 4 lety +4

    17:50 It is still amazing how Walt Disney was able to turn an Orange Grove into Disneyland in 366 days! They started designing Disneyland in September 1953, 10 months before the start of construction.

  • @bud9450
    @bud9450 Před 4 lety +13

    1.5 mil back in the day was a true gamble that certainly paid its way in *SPADES*. Takes obsession people.

  • @BeatingAngel001
    @BeatingAngel001 Před 4 lety +7

    These videos really beat all other Disney or theme park videos, the way they are narrated and images providing to help tell the story just make it an enjoyable watch. Thanks for uploading!

  • @Whofan06
    @Whofan06 Před 4 lety +7

    As a writer who draws a lot from all of the various media I consume, I find this version of the story even more inspiring. To see all the different places Walt Disney visited and how clearly the light bulbs went off in each one; the way so many of his original ideas still stand in the park today not too far off from how he originally envisioned them; the way he went around the country and got people from all over who ran the parks that inspired him to come work on Disneyland itself. The passion he had for this idea, inspired by his own past and what he consumed around him. I like this story way better, including how this all came after him feeling like he lost everything. This idea of true passion and creation after a period of hardship and depression--it gives me hope.

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez9216 Před 4 lety +4

    I am loving learning the whole story. The inspiration, the struggles, the mistakes, the triumph and the humanity good and bad.