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Where All the Good Light Novels Came From
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2017
- In which I explain Faust, and the genre of early dark urban fantasy light novels that I tend to bring up a lot in my videos.
If you've never seen my video on light novel trends, go watch it: • Light Novel Anime Tren...
When you've mentioned Faust in the past, I thought you were referencing the German legend/music/a lot of other classical pieces. Now this makes a lot more sense
Daniel Baljeu same, after all, this is the must known "Faust"
Daniel Baljeu Actually Satan.
Daniel Baljeu I guess expecting Digi to discuss Goethe was expecting too much.
TrevRockOne why expecting to much the original Faust is worth a read.
I thought he meant the necromancer, Faust.
they came from Japan obviously
Audie Liem Japan doesn't exist
so there are no good light novels
Light novels is a japanese aneurism
Benck you mean a japaneurism?
I will read anything as long as it has *NisiOIsin* name attached
pfff who needs dark urban fantasy when we have magic elf pizzeria fantasy
Frans Lebin a story about an elf running a family pizzeria actually seems pretty interesting
I'd actually read that
I'm not making it up. That is an actual upcoming light novel
Frans Lebin wow
and I am to assume that the elf is a sexy anime girl?
name, pls
God, I love how Digi gets straight to the point. No greeting, no intro BS, just the fucking content. Thank you.
so , light novels used to be pulp fiction ?
Its kind of a shame to see the medium evolve from that into the piles of shitty fantasy trope stories that we have today.
I actually enjoy both modern & old light novels.
"used"
Sauce Pirate it's not like there aren't good modern light novels
chrystian4 agreed
They've got Faust in my school library, I keep meaning to check them out sometime.
Why what?
*****
Art school. When a lot of your students are aspiring cartoonists, the manga section of the library tends to be pretty good.
TootTootMcbumbersnazzle I am unintentionally stalking you....
***** O.o
Lucky...
when i heard you say faust, i thought you were talking about the old german legend, where faust sells his soul to a demon called Mephistopheles.
Iunno why I thought you would be talking about it, though.
frawding me too xD
I thought he was talking about Goethe's Faust lol
I started to question Digi's sanity when he said that.
at last, we're back to the broad subject vlogs.
Thank you.
I hadn't watched ANY of the shows you've been talking about recently and had been in need of one of these, since specific shows are far less interesting than whole "things" (I can't write well, but Broad is better).
Thanks Digi.
It is not where they came from, but rather were the hell did they go?
I feel like Digi is not addressing the full problem. I feel like Digi needs to get out a weeb cast with Mother's basement and the others dicussing about "High School Harem Echi Light Novels and their Adaptations" And what the hell is going on and why they keep popping up. A different author but the SAME premise characters and story progression. Why these things are so damn popular after Sword Art Online. Why do they keep working? Are their adaptations lazy as a result?
They are popular because people like them. The "it's shit ln's stuff" is a thought that's only prevalent in minority.
I've yet to read any LN but I've seen Digi's vids, and truly seems that the urban-mistery has been replaced by the boy dies and reincarnates/trapped in a fantasy game/world scenario. Not all are shit, and some that I've seen/want to check are Konosuba, ReZero, Shield Hero, Goblin Slayer and Rokka; it is still sad that there isn't that much variety on the (western) mainstream.
Yeah. Most of the stuff that gets translated isn't really what one would call cream of the crop. I'm fortunate enough to be able to read a bit of Japanese and I can tell you that the best ones(LN's) don't exposition because they don't pander enough to one or two niches. Look at Youjo Senki's for instance. I've been following it since vol 1 and I can tell you it was super lucky to get an adaptation. Had Tanya been a man all the way then yeah, forget about the west even knowing about this series.
The problem isn't that there's only stuff of one kind, the problem is that they choose the worst ones of that kind to adapt into an anime / localize in the West
Never stop making videos Digi, keep being awesome and enlightening!
I'm going to try and guess the answer to the question that the title posits: good writers, with interesting ideas.
Too bad most of them had terrible, TERRIBLE marketing behind. (A common trend in Japan until recently.)
If the publishers had been smarter and more open, these authors could've made it big without the need of anime adaptations to back them up.
Another clickbait title to a video where Digi can be heard yelling "gahaha" for miles after posting it.
Cedric Wong lol
Cedric Wong
For some reason, Digi's clickbait titles don't piss me off haha. Unlike say, Double4 or Forneverworld's (aka the typical clickbait titles).
It was a clickbait title indeed, but I got what I wanted, so is a win-win.
Duwang Is Unbreakable lol
Well I mean Digibro mostly does it to make a point, so that's probably why they're not as annoying. It's just another layer of his analysis and stuff.
Most of the time people are specifically trying to increase their views and that's it, and that's the annoying part.
That was a fascinating video. I remember loving the old Seven Seas translations of the Boogiepop light novels, so to hear that there was this awesome clique of light novel authors publishing in a magazine together was a trip!
Zaregoto book 1 has been reprinted and can be found for $10 new. The copy in this video tho goes for about $55
Digi, you have beautiful eyes
alan ortiz you didn't say no homo
chrystian4 No need to.
(∩ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)⊃━☆ﾟ.* I know
You just noticed?
Ah... Welcome to the NHK. Back when I was in high school, I remember spending my very first paycheck on buying the light novel. It cost me like 200 bucks at the time, I couldn't find it any cheaper, and since I'd heard Tokyopop was going under at the time, I figured that this would be my only chance to buy that book. It's so different from the anime, but I still keep that book as one of my most prized possessions in the same way I maintain that the anime was one of the most important things I'd ever watched.
So, you guys know about that LN where the guy was reincarnated as hot spring water?
StalkerZHS god i wish that were me
ITT Digi shows off his light novel collection.
Found Faust and Zaregoto in grade 12 before Nisioisin was a thing in the west. It was the first thing that actually made me want to learn Japanese.
Otaro Maijo is amazing.
I think I don't need to say that, because a lot of people here already did but I hate the current lightnovel trend.
Levobertus thats a nice Rika
The Faust collection makes me think of a comic anthology called the Flight anthologies. They served a somewhat similar purpose, but instead collected comics with a theme of "flight" and exploration.The anthologies are full of crazy and interesting stuff. I definitely recommend those for anyone into indie style comics, since those artists and writers had just started out at the time.
this shit all sounds cool as fuck digi, like the kinda stuff I should have been reading when I was a teenager. Thanks for making this video so dumbs like me could find out about it.
Tokyopop also tried to promote light novels in the late 2000s, with releases of Gosick, Full Metal Panic and Slayers, alongside the release of Welcome to the NHK. Needless to say, it didn't take off.
Vertical licensed only the first volume of Zaregoto at the moment. I imagine that they're doing the same thing that they did with Monogatari, seeing if it's popular as a light novel before going all-in. Time will tell if they continue.
I loved that video. Its one of my favorites of your videos
My thought:
Faust? What? Everyone knows Faust dont be sill- Oh THAT Faust...
Yen Press pushes LNs a lot.
Expect it tooks too long to get next volume of anything
Jepze true
I'm still sad that Yen Press got HakoMari rather than Vertical. Cuz Yen Press LNs are of significantly lower physical quality imo.
I'll still probably buy it though.
Commander Sparkle its from media works of course yen on gets its.
you should do a video over how an anime can do good comedy
(which is just an excuse to see you talk about gintama)
Yes, this was great. Luckily, I was able to grab both FAUST volumes recently. Thanks for all the info, Digibro😎👍
Can't be a LN if is not generic.
Mastergold so what if its generic.
The unicorn head-sex was the best part of that book.
Fun fact. Snowdrop Buck Pinpointmind's character design and concept in the faust Nisioisin manga you talked about would be later recycled as a different side character for Medaka Box.
Actually now that I think of it. Medaka Box is literally just that NisiOisin short manga except longer and Shonen... huh.
Damn, those Faust books take me back. As a kid they sold them at a store with manga and comics, and what amused me was the excerpt from the xxxHolic:Anotherholic. I'd come back and skim the stories, but never got it.
omg faust cost 44 dollars used... now i want it
Pulled up my old copies. Forgot how much I liked these. I was already a fan of Nisio Isin back then and snatched them up in a snap haha.
Boogiepop is my favorite series and I'm still upset that there aren't any more of them localized. I've been definitely been meaning to track down Faust, if only to satiate my need for Kohei Kadono's stories.
This video is gold.
You should collect and read all the Gakusen Toshi Asterisk light novel's, lmao.
The "×××" in "×××Holic" is silent.
Lots of books there to pick up!
Does anyone know where the characters on the Faust books' covers come from, or were they drawn for Faust itself? Thanks in advance!
I wasn't buying light novels at the time but I was reading them mostly on Baka-Tsuki. I read the whole A Certain Magical Index first series (before it came to the west and was DMCA'd on the website) on there and finished several others in the late 2000's and early 2010's.
Digibro, could you list 10 good light novels?
I'm not Digi but:
Boogiepop
Zaregoto
Baccano
Kino no Tabi
Full Metal Panic
The Twelve Kingdoms
Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita
Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu
Read or Die
9S
There's over 10 books in the monogatari series. Those.
There's over 20 books in the Monogatari series lol
SikeSplitter If you only count NisioIsin-written entries, then it's 18 so far I believe
I haven't read it _yet_ but I assume the Spice and Wolf LN is good going by what came out of it.
Shoji Gatoh who is responsible for the Full Metal Panic! novel/manga/some of the anime and Amagi Brilliant Park is a pretty good author. Hopefully someone licences his works :] (used to be by TokyoPop but it is RIP).
Digi, do you ever think you might make a "what I want out of LN going forward" sorta video? It could be your idea of a perfect LN, but I'd like to hear what you'd like to see in the industry now that it's finally gaining steam in America.
You can order these through the links on this page:englishlightnovels.com/2014/06/04/faust/
Digi, are these your fave light novels? or do you have a video on this? I like Yonezawa Honobu and Ono Fuyumi's work a lot. Btw, This is the first time I want to say 'stop working so hard' to a youtuber
You get Hunter×Hunter right, but in ×××Holic the ××× is silent.
Otherwise good video. Back in the day during one of the older LN release waves in America I got a few volumes of The Slayers and Full Metal Panic!. At least the current wave of bad LNs getting popular is helping us get good stuff over here again.
It actually bothered me that they'd try so hard in their pronunciation of Katanagatari, but then didn't know how to pronounce xxxHolic
That reminds me I read a FMA and .Hack novel back in the late 2000s but had no idea they were called light novels at the time.
if kino no tabi ever came out here again with the original art I'd buy them in seconds.
Del Rey has long been a Sci-fi Fantasy publisher under Ballantine Books, it published pretty much all the Star Wars novels.
I knew about Nisioisin & Zaregoto before Bakemonogatari because I was a fan of Death Note and he wrote a side book.
"unless they make another anime adaptation"
I actually own the first Faust, found it at a half price books
Never been this early! (for real)
It seems the Faust writers were the otaku beatniks
The only explanation to Otaro Maijo's insanity is that he must be channeling the ghost of Frank Zappa
Takeshi Obata drew Death Note, Bakuman, and All You Need Is Kill.
Digibro will you give Concrete Revolutio another chance in the near future? If you can watch something as crazy as occultic ; nine , then you can watch Con Revo. Don't be a chicken man. What are you afraid of?
Wasting 4 hours?
Wait I thought your time was worthless.
I also am searching for Faust for some time now but it quite hard to find it somewhere
What did you think of the NHK light novel? Personally I got to chapter 5 and the transition into Yamazaki's rant about eroge was jarring to the point that I dropped it out of pure confusion
I loved it, more than the anime even, but it's been a long time since I read/watched it.
Faust sounds really interesting, too bad it seems hard to get, I'd love to add it to my collection.
when i hear Faust, i think of the drama by Göthe
Fuck. I like the Kara no Kyoukai movies and I really wish people make this kind of light novels again
what are the good light novels that came out just recently?
Aside from pretty much anything from Nisioisn, who would you recommend in regards to light novel authors?
InstantZzz No Game No Life, Re; Zero, Kino's Journey, Konosuba, Boogiepop, The Empty Box And Zeroth Maria. There's 6 to keep you entertained
You are super legit. The only thing you are missing in fluency in Japanese, including reading.
digi has several portals open at once for slick book reveals
Wasn't Otaru Maijo the guy who wrote the Jorge Joestar novel?
digibro do you have an opinion on the rebellion against God undertone in anime regardless of what you think about God you musy admit this is a common theme in anime
just a quick question did they changed the manga layout or do you read the novels normally and then you need to flip for the manga?
From the video, it appears that the manga starts in the back and gors to the center. So yeah, original format.
two years later i have acquired this book
I'm kinda interested in reading the boogie pop novels. Do you think they'd be good reading for a thirty- something guy? I did enjoy the Anime many years ago.
I think they'd be interesting at least.
Where did you buy your light novels? I'm assuming Rightstuf and Amazon.
Most of them I bought from stores, actually, but some from those as well.
in the beginning did you mean like a curator?
I actually think Seven Seas is trying to get back into light novels again if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, they're publishing the J-Novel Club stuff
Jace X j-novel is actually gonna publish their novels in print under the seven seas lable. Series like Grimgar and Occultic;Nine.
I've been meaning to read Occultic but I'm not too keen on e-books, so I'm glad for the printing. Now I just have to wait for someone to bring the old series that got their localisations cancelled. (Boogiepop, Kino, etc.)
Jace X same. Im not a fan of e-books. I kinda hope they republish the shana series.
Yen On is doing a great job, I really hope they do get Shana and Full Metal Panic and the such.
Well i mean, this and the guy who made durarura and Baccano.
I wish I could have Faust in my hands right now ;_;
Zaregoto reprint when? It's quite nostalgic for me, I'd love to have the other volumes besides the second one.
That being said, I think everybody should know about Faust and Dengeki Bunko from the light novel maniacs in Drrr.
Are they fans of Faust in the light novels or something? I only remember them being Dengeki Bunko fans in the anime.
They had like all sorts of light novels. Dengeki Bunko mainly, of course, but they do mention Faust in the anime too.
...if I remember correctly? I mean, it's completely possible that I'm just conflating my memories right now. It's been ages since Drrr aired, and even longer since I know about Faust.
Am I the only one who thinks this hair length/style and beard length makes Digi look hot af? no homo tho
Huh. And I was under the impression it was a play from the eighteenth century.
Kind of almost related to this video: I love Fooly Cooly. Is the manga worth getting?
It's very different from the show and very bizarre, but interesting.
A different experience _is_ what I would be hoping for.
Digi go read Biorg trinity it's written by Otaro Maijo and drew by the author of air gear
Late 90th-early 00 were the best times for the light novel industry, and then Index-Louise-Shana-Haruhi ruined it forever.
I personally think it's Isekai novels that really ripped the light novel industry, especially the self-insert web novel thing. But I respect your opinion.
"I like video games and boobies, why don't I buy this book about video games and boobies"
Jace X well, I can't say you are wrong, but all gone downhill from there. Tensai/oretuuuu web novels are literally cancer though, I agree.
Isn't Legend of the Galatic Heroes a light novel series as well?
RavegousHermage a novel, I think
yep
In Japan it was a novel, but I think the English Release is put under the Light Novel Label
Surprised by the Yun Kouga namedrop. Have you read Loveless?
Silly digi that's not faust. that's katanagatari in disguise.
Best line uttered in any LN
"-two years worth of semen"
What a weird group of people, now to buy all of them to make up for the lost time! ^w^
I've seen you around the PCPniverse, who are you?
come again? whats the PCPniverse ?
Kyononnon 'why did Gmail screw me over?'
Seems that I was wrong.
The PCP... the ProCrastinatorsPodcast and all of it's connected channels.
NisiOisin is the only light novel god in the whole entire world.
An EOP makes broad, generalizing statements about a media they don't consume nor take part in. At most engaging only as a secondary, and you feel the need to make these claims and draw these narratives.
Mushoku Tensei or bust
monkeylemur I would kill for mushoku Tensei
@@nasamaru8885 you getting it
How long has it been since Japan last made a dark urban fantasy show?
Too bad I can't read novels anyways, not because it in Japanese or at language. But the fact when I read, sometimes I get lose what I'm reading or have a hard time imagine the sense or don't quite understand what it happen in the event. It mostly the lack of imagination.
That's just it. The more you read, the more you imagine. The first book can be a chore. The 2nd you learn how to read fast in detail. The 3rd you slide through while BEING THERE, PRESENT in the setting. That of course is if the book is good.
+Thunderstyle thanks for the tip.
Ooh, audio's a bit lower quality in this video.
Amir Butcher fuck up
crypto is in my chromosome
Digo, are The Log Horizon novels as good as The manga?
I haven't read the manga, and only read vol.1 of the novels so far, so I have no idea.
I have just finished Volume 4 of the Novels. They are pretty damn good and you can easily tell that Mamare Tuono was a hardcore gamer.
well, thanks you guys fornthe feed back and attencion :3
***** no problem. In case you didnt know, the 1st season of the anime adapted the first 5 novels. Im pretty sure the manga is just a spin off following the west wing brigade.
Is that a cal chuchesta shirt
Did I hear Digi say that SAO did something good?
i was like faust, written by Göethe?
so u like but hate light novels?