Port of Baltimore Update April 7, 2024 | Ship Scrapping Nearly Halts
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What's Going on With Shipping?
April 7, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - provides an update on MV Dali and Francis Scott Key Bridge salvage in Baltimore and discusses the near halt in ship scrapping in early 2024.
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00:00 MV Dali and Francis Scott Key Bridge Salvage Update
05:11 Ship Scrapping Nearly Halts
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Cutting steel under extreme tension is increadibly dangerous work.
Former sailboat owner and liveaboard here. Sal's videos are like master classes in all things maritime.
Some tissue there, to wipe the poop off your nose
@@devilsadvocate7358are you saying Sal doesn't know WTF he's talking about?
@@devilsadvocate7358Shuddup, pal!
I am a former liveaboard too. And we were on the Chesapeake Bay in the beginning.🎉 Good times.
I'm converted
Remember, the values for the cranes are the maximum load.
That is in a very narrow positioning location, optimum, and needs the crane to be horizontally very close to the object being lifted. Aka the crane arm to be as vertical as possible.
And that lifting capacity has a massive drop off the lower the boom is positioned.
Would I be correct in thinking that breaking the vacuum of submerged items in the mud would also drastically lower the lifting capacity?
My first ship after graduation was a 52-year-old triple-expansion steamer built in 1918 in Scotland. It caused quite a sensation when we entered the harbor as it looked like a floating museum. Yes, I know,
"Yesterday when I was young
The taste of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue
I teased at life as if it were a foolish game
The way the evening breeze may tease a candle flame
The thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things I planned
I always built, alas, on weak and shifting sand when I was young,"
What year?
I'll listen.
My first was from 1939, a GE Turbine.
Ditto, mate
TBF Germany kept a Steam Ship in Operation until 1981, and it wasn't even converted to burn Oil. So the German Government kept paying Stokers to shovel Coal while the first unattended Engine Rooms came up elsewhere. Said Ship is the Icebreaker Stettin, now a seaworthy Museum Ship in Hamburg.
My First Steamship was in 1980, the USS Ranger (CV-61) A 1200 pound Aircraft carrier, with 8 Boilers, 4 engine rooms, and 4 screws! Over 300,000 Shaft Horsepower!!
Retired All Oceans Master Unlimited here. Sal is my source on all things marine.❤
Only been on a boat over 100’ once, and it was a Channel ferry. But this too is my go-to channel.
Current, sailing, Master Mariner, and Dr. Sal is my go-to for tons in info and intel.
Yes sir, i'm 100% agreed on your statement. AB with SIU & ships carpenter with MSC for 38 years. Sal keeps all us old-salts well informed.
Decades ago was Chief Mate on a tanker that we drove up on to the scrapping beach at Chittagong, Bangladesh. It was an interesting bucket list experience.
I could not afford the education I get from this gentleman.
The reference to Russia invasion is NATO propaganda. Russia did not invade, it joined the war that Ukraine was waging against the Russians in the Donbas republics, in order to protect those Russians. It also restored water to Crimea that Ukraine illegally cut.
Thank you Sal for our direct access to a SME...12 year Navy VET Here...
@@bballen3097 Are you drunk, ot high on something? Or are you just a ruZZian bot? Yes, you are a ruZZian bot. Now, get TF out of here.
@@bballen3097you can't just call one thing "nato propaganda" and then say something with no source that sounds like "Russian propaganda". Now me, as a skeptical reader, has no actual clue based on what you said. You had an opportunity to convince me, and left me neutral because you didn't make a compelling argument.
You can't just dismiss a claim as propaganda. How about I do that to what you said? That's just Russian propaganda. Great, now where are we in the discussion? No clue because everything is a lie so finding the truth isn't possible.
@@bballen3097 Why can't Ukraine cut water to a part of Ukraine?
Another thing to keep in mind is that you only get that 1000 ton capacity when the load is close to the base of the crane. As the load gets further away from the base of the crane, the capacity gets reduced.
The Baltimore Harbor has "Fleet Week" planned in June.
I remembering going as a kid, when the Inner Harbor was new. It was great! There were ships from all over the world welcoming people aboard to look at their vessels.
Sam should start his own line of shirts. :)
Sam and Paul from Curious Droid. Paul just might be Sam's British brother from another mother.
@@flyingardilla143 that shirt company would take off like a rocketship
There's a space guy on here who does Maybe they should talk. 😄
Have different shirts named after different famous ships nicknames!? I agree! Would be 🤌😊
Yep-- for females as well.
I'm so old
I remember fighting over high quality, pre-nuke steel in liberty and victory ships being scrapped.
The Chinese just take Pacific War Graves/Sunken war ships.
Pre-nuke steel? What is that?
@@mrbaab5932That is steel produced prior to atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons, which would have no contamination from radioactive particles in the atmosphere.
There are some scientific uses which require the lowest achievable level of radioactivity, in uses such as sensors.
@@macmedic892That’s very interesting!
Periodically steel is also salvaged from the few remaining ships of the German High Fleet that were scuttled in Scapa Flow in 1919.
I appreciate the explanation of putting hazardous materials containers on the bow.
When I first heard the hazardous materials were up front, it seemed the worst location. If the ship rammed something, then the hazardous containers would be the first to get crushed. But you explained that there are other important factors involved.
The bow, the forward cargo hold actually, is furthest from the crew and engines. And as Sal said, the forward section can be isolated in a fire or loss of containment.
@@amariner5 with some of the bridge forward designs it might be interesting if things shift to hazardous on the rear...
I thought he was going to say so that they could be shoved off the ship if they caught fire and retrieved after extinguished. I guess Hazardous indicates more than just Flammable materials though.
@@amariner5 Very good, my son! Lol😅
@@smytb Dad?
That you?
Your updates really help me and I’m in the trucking industry great to know solid info thank you !!
Ship scrapping is down, but bridge scrapping is way, way up.
OBiden is scrapping out America.
One Bridge, One Food Processing Plant One Resort Town, One Stock Yard at a time.
Great comment, NOT
Harsh but true.
🤣🤣🤣
Too soon for those that don't understand how comedy works.
. Im a Global Supply Chain Student and the incident in the Port of Baltimore has captured my attention. Your expertise and thorough explanation of logistics on the waterways especially during these post pandemic and current ongoing wars makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you
I'll never forget, as a kid moving from Colorado to Brooklyn in 1958, watching freighters coming in to New York. The only ships out west were prairie schooners.
My uncle was the treasurer of Grace Lines.
I used to go with my dad to Port Newark and watch them load cargo in the late forties. Very different in scale today, but in some ways much the same process.
Oooooo, i know this song!
What ever. The largest ports are on the west coast.
Thats because all the garbage comes in from the Far east.@Katchi_
@@Katchi_ Apart from expressing your dickishness, did you have a point?
Educational.. thanks.. learn something new everyday.. cheers from Vietnam
Heard a another cargo ship has lost power in New York. Almost hitting another bridge.
Yes, 2 tugs were already on it, and 2 more brought in immediately to control the ship from allision with bridge vertical pilings. The picture perspective I saw of the incident had the ship nearly half the entire length between the Verranzzano-Narrows bridge pilings so the out of control ship was a credible hazard. The root-causes of these two incidents will be under huge scrutiny now. Maybe it is a systemic failure mode somehow ?
Did you hear that on CNN?
@@Carlos-im3hnany links ?
Just heard that too yikes
Heard it on The Poplar Report
Appreciate the substantive explanation on current actions … in context
Thanks for the updates Sal.
Thank you for the updates.
Happy Sunday! My liquor store called. They want to know when we’re going to start talking about the Bab-el-Mandeb again. ;-)
Sal is thinking of branding some hooch "Bab-El-Mandeb". Sort of a Sailors MD (Mad-Dog) 20/20, but with some Red Sea salt water added for flavor.
@@jonmccormick8683 ROFLMAO!😂
Here for the shirts!
Sal said leave I comment. So I shall. MAHALO Sal a fellow shipmate.
I'm actually shocked they still do ship teardowns in the US, I thought that was all sent to places like Bangladesh.
Look into Brownsville Texas That's where some of the US navy vessels get scrapped and others
I believe the aircraft carriers being dismantled in the usa is because of security concerns of the ships construction to survive battle damage.
You are correct. Most ship scrapping is done overseas. US Navy ships however are scrapped down in Texas.
Yet another fascinating upload, thanks Sal. That shirt is quite something too :-D
You are so professional.
Thanks.
A bit of good news for the port overall: a 35-ft draft channel would also allow cruise ships to return to the Port of Baltimore. (There were two home-ported there which have shifted to Norfolk in the interim.)
A gas line was installed under the bridge span and now the huge container ship is sitting on it.and can't be moved. Absolutely brilliant risk assessment went itnto the cost vs effective value of NOT using escort tugs tp to shepard huge vessels under the Baltimore bridge.
Tugs, i heard, were reduced by 40% due to budget cuts. Tugs could of prevented all this mess.
Look how much they saved.
That's not how tugboats work.
@@crewcut442the people with these Tugboat theories are screwed up. You don't need tugboats in the situation where the ship is already in the shipping channel. And they are not going to slow it down once it's underway.
What beats me is the complete lack of pier protection from this sort of foreseeable event and mod of failure. I have yet to see much comment on this.
Thanks for the “big picture” look from vids like this.
Great work Sal!
Thanks!
❤😎👍
Thanks so much Sal, great information as always. ! Love your channel! Stay well, stay safe!
🍹 Sal’s Margarita shirt always reminds me of South Park! 😅
Thanks for the update video Sal, very informative as usual.
Since you are discussing Ship Scrapping and the Key Bridge. Did you know that the aircraft carrier USS Coral Sea was scrapped right where the Eastern edge of the Key Bridge is located. There's probably still parts of it there underwater.
Actually it was berthed in Fairfield, basically at the former Maryland Drydock site. Which is now the Toyota terminal. The company that was scrapping it failed to complete the project and it was moved to another site.
@@markkaminski2416 They moved it up by the tunnel I believe. The company was SeaWitch Salvage and they got into a little bit of trouble.
Yeah, they ended up in a bit of trouble. Sea Witch wasn't capable of handling a project of that scale. I was working on a construction project at the former Lever Brothers plant on Holabird Ave. I had a good view of it being towed under the Key Bridge and into the Harbor. Over the weekend I took my then young son , now 40, to the pier and we looked at walked the length of that mammoth vessel.
Understandable the halt to operations for recovery of the bodies. Just part of the process. They do seem to be making progress, all the same. Pleased to see that.
Fine work as always
Thanks Sal
1. Your content and insight into the shipping industry is awesome. All I know about shipping is that it’s important. Your channel is a great educational and current events resource. Please keep it up!
2. Where did you get that shirt?!? It’s great! I want one!
Thank-you for the update.
Always love your shirts!!
And thx for the clearest reports.
I live in Dundalk.
Debris is washing up far from the accident all over MD on the tributaries.
It’s so weird, sad, and creepy almost.
I still haven’t really wrapped my head around this tragedy.
Thx again(:
Thx Sal...Great info and projection of ship building.
LOVE YOUR SHIRT!
Ship building seems to be emulating the Washer / Dryer industry on building short life Junk.
And the coffee makers. 😆 There are maintenance guidelines, & troubleshooting error codes [often leading to forums & YT vids made by other consumers]- but that fast-approaching, final error code = “have to buy a new one”
I just replaced my washer that died two months after it's five year warranty with repair costs more then the washer itself 🙄
The replacement tripped my GFCI outlet. LG suggester I remove the GFCI as this is a known issue with their motors.. GFCI is required in laundry rooms. ... .... Switching from outlet to a gfci circuit breaker fixed it. 🙄🙄
Buy Speed Queen
I dont know about this sort of news, basically not on my radar ( generally shipping).
Interesting to learn what's going on generally from different perspectives. Subscribed.
Welcome to the addiction 😊
I've been following Sal since the beginning of the pandemic. He's VERY informative/knowledgeable.
One of my favorite shows
Thanks for the update Sal. !!!
7:30 - One of the best reasons yet to get rid of or revamp the Jones Act.
"Stabilization in shipping"... that's what those newfangled things are that they install mid-ship and extend during rough passage - to make it nice-nice for rich passengers - - right?
Great update, as always Professor. Thank you. (And thanks for referring us to the Chiefs!!)
My doctor flys his own plane and flew over the Key Bridge area. He said it was a very sad sight. We need so much help here really soon. Gas prices are already going higher, the traffic is unbelievable. I hope they can find all the missing workers soon so the families can properly bury their loved one.
Love your educational reviews of current issues..
They're talking about rebuilding the bridge, but I can't help wonder if it would be best for them to go with the original plan and just do a tunnel instead?
We all benefit from Sal's insight and knowledge...thank you sir !
Man some of the Great Lake freighters are pre ww2 boats Lee a tregrutha served as a oiler ship in ww2 so it’s crazy to think freshwater ships hold up way longer
Sal you’re one excellent speaker . Great to listen you and takes my mind off life so much and let’s me know I’m not the only in the world with so many problems 😆
SAL my everything shipping Friend 😊
So Glade you talked about were ( Has-Mat
Is placed on vessel 😊 you are a brilliant information spokesperson for this salvage. 😊 So sad that another hard working road worker just out working his job on bridge, no time to evacuate. My thoughts are on his family.
Some very insightful commentary - subscribed from Perth Australia.
Thanks, Sal!
Grateful for you men
1) Alang Ship Breaking Yard (India)🥇
2) Chittagong Ship Breaking Yard (Bangladesh)🥈
3) Gadani ship-breaking yard (Pakistan)🥉
Fascinating!
Love the Jimmy Buffett shirt.............brings back old beach bum memories, lol
Thanks again.
Although i agree with everything you just stated, don't forget the impact of interest rates. High rates make refits of existing vessels more attractive (obviously), especially when combined with the regulatory issues you discussed.
Thanks Sal. Always expert information from a man who knows his trade. I really appreciate your channel. Keep it going brother.
Your scapping-inspired holistic outline of shipping in transition (in an unstable world) is fascinating and daunting.
Have you done a longer piece or series about that? If instability is the new normal, extra capacity helps.
Thanks!
Nice shirt Sal .. I had the solemn and somber task of clearing the MMSI's from the AIS and VHF on Drifter .. the Surfari 50 he owned.
Heard it's being donated someplace .. The end of an era.
Thanks
Just noticed a typo in your channel description "I will features videos that..." really enjoying the content.
I just fixed it. THANKS!
Thanks for a windfall of information.
Love the shirt. Changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes.
I follow a Canadian trucker who hauls equipment off the docks in Baltimore. He spoke about how half the staff on the dock had been sent home as nothing coming in and the dock emptying fairly rapidly. He shows a Wallenius Wilhemsen RORO stuck at its mooring and the God awful weather. Off in the distance you can see the Dali trapped under the bridge. Brings the reality home in painful clarity.
Its Lucky Banana Heavy Haul if anyone is interested.
Salute to Capn Sal 👌😊.
Very interesting!
I'm curious how this operation in Baltimore compares to clearing out Cherbourg Harbor just after D-Day. My grandpa was in the Engineers working on that operation, and he said it was dangerous. His unit got a citation for their work. (So did the German officer who scuttled everything and made the mess.) Any thoughts? Does it compare?
I wonder if they could use a float device( hollow boxes) like they did to raise and float costa Concordia on the frame of the bridge pieces?
Thank You for yesterday's update. Those references were very informative. Wonder how long it will be before we can get out of the speculation phase and get some definite answers.
What do you want a definite answer on? There is no set answer to how long this operation is going to take or cost.
ThNk u
I love that term "The Dark Fleet". 🤘
This is college level education, Thank You!
Thanks Sal. Remember, we are the people our parents warned us about.
Weeks 533, a 500 ton Clyde, removing containers one at a time, with the whip.
With the number of container ship wrecks, it would seem to make sense to build some automatic spreaders like the dock container cranes use. Might avoid workers on top of the stacks.
Must be a lot of simi-automatic spreaders on the presently unusable container cranes around Baltimore. Lease for a period of time, shouldn't be too hard to retrofit to operate - maybe a portable hydraulic unit on the lift frame to power devices and wired or WiFi controls on hydraulics. Mayev even hijack some of the operators for the duration.
The Squad wants electric ships and to ban all diesel powered ships. When Senator Kennedy asked Talieb about her plan for the shipping industry, she said, tell that to the people with asthma! ( tell what?, that she doesnt have a plan?)
Had the channel been deeper, it's possible the ship might have sunk. Thankfully, the bow was pinned to the 50 foot bottom that prevented sinking.
Hey Sal! FYI. You were talking about the world’s aging shipping fleets. I rewatched “Captain Phillips” the other day. The hijacking occurred in 2009, the movie came out in 2013.
The “Alabama” was ordered in 89, delivered in 98 and is now the “Tygra”. She’s still working and currently on her way to Port Moresby. I wonder if her fame, or infamy will keep her going another 1 years?
I heard that tankers are being used for storage rather than delivery.
Interesting!
Thank you so much, for the excellent and informative video. It is too bad the "unified command" isn't more forthcoming with information. I think the name says it all - the governor's ongoing news conference and cheering section, which is a bit lean on actual information.
Well I learnt something I didn't know, or think I needed to know. Thank you, interesting - the world is one HUGE jigsaw puzzle.
It's interesting that countries scrapping ships are located next or near to the ones that own most of them: Turkey next to Greece, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh near China and Japan...
Great job sir. You have amazing voice and intonation.
Live long and prosper.
Can you talk about how many inexperienced crews might be being put out to the ocean earlier than desired, or how many retirements are being prevented due to the decrease in ships being scrapped? Obviously keeping more ships out there requires more crews, and I am also wondering what increased risks we are looking at due to this. We already saw with Dali what a simple power failure did at the worst possible time can do to shipping. I can only imagine older ships perhaps with differed maintenance, inexperienced crews, corporate pressures, if we could see a domino effect of more accidents, more infrastructure damage.
Perhaps you'd like to spend some of your unlimited funds to build a fleet of ships and operate them the way you think is best?
I don't believe the damage shown early in your video to Dali's starboard bow was caused by the collapse of the bridge onto the bow. Rather, it was likely caused by the collision between the bow and one of the 4 piers supporting that end of the main span -- likely the eastern-most of those 4 piers.
The damage shows both what appears to be a relatively clean near-vertical cut through the heavy hull material several feet to the right of the ship's centerline, and substantial metal collapsed toward the stern into the resulting wound in the hull. That is exactly what you would expect from a collision with a vertical immovable object -- or at least near immovable until that pier fractured & collapsed, leading to the rest of the collapse.
But the pier, of course, was not vertical. So why is the cut near vertical? Likely because the bulbous bow collided with the underwater foundation of the piers, and was pushing the bow to the ship's left as the collision occurred. So as the cut extended down from the gunwale, the bow's motion the the left nearly matched the slope of the pier -- resulting in a near-vertical cut edge despite the original slope in the concrete.
Had the damage been caused by the collapsing truss, you would expect the damage to extend similarly deeply across the bow deck, and down the port side of the bow. But aerial photos show relatively little damage to either hull or deck extending left from the near-vertical cut.
Are there are single bottom tankers still in service? Doubles were coming on hard in the US when I started tugging in the early 90s. I assume that most/all 1st world countries don't allow entry.
Watching the recommended video of Cheif MAKOi, the unfortunate failure of the generators could have been caused
when switching (maybe too early also) the type of gas used for the diesels Main engine and generators?
If this was the issue, then if changing gas had occured after passing the bridge it would have been a different story.
The most lucky situation anyway, was that there was some police at each ends of the bridge because of the repair bridge team.
If this accident had occurent during a rush hour, this would have been a much more catastrophic event.
Manouvering out of a harbor would be considered the most critical phase of the departure to open water.It would be insane to initiate a major change like fuel selection at that point in time.
Sam, those be trusses, not trestles that they're cutting apart...
Thanks. Sal not Sam. 😇
Couldn't they build a coffer dam around the ship and fallen bridge so that it could be drained for cutting bridge parts, removing roadway, construction vehicles, worker bodies? That would also contain toxic waste if some containers leak.
Many ships on the Great Lakes were constructed in the 1970s
Will they set up a new range for the new channel? One of the one distinctive things about the Baltimore approach is the ranged channels.
Contrast the Norfolk approach channel in the Chesapeake that relies on a bearing to that one particularly tall tree in Newport News.....
Informatic video!! Great news for the day, thanks for sharing, Sal!
I love how ever-tightening environmental restrictions are leading to the construction of more short term, disposable ships than would otherwise be produced. It’s almost like the greenies have no idea that their policies have consequences that might be unfavorable.
Thanks sam.the demand srap stop now new cycle very soon for demand in iron ore i watch this for while.the price srap metal go up is hard wait and see but price iron ore will pick up soon later.thanks update.