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The Eternaut - War of the Worlds in Argentina by Oesterheld and López
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
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Netflix is producing The Etenaut Series here czcams.com/video/rRHt0rdc7dU/video.html
The most fascinating part I found about reading this was how the characters react completely differently then they would in a US version of the story, so many post apocalyptic stories in the US are about how other people are worst then the monsters, whereas in this the world ends and the survivors essentially unite with strangers to fight as an army even thought they don't really know what's going and the cause is probably doomed.
Later, yes. But in the first part of the story (before the Army shows up, and everyone learns that its an alien invasion) the survivors are indeed fighting each other and killing each other over resources.
I remember reading this in my highschool years. It is, without a question, the quintessential argentinian comic book. For me it is sad that it's from the golden age of argentinian comic books, comics were huge in those years. I don't think regular people nowadays even know that comic books are still being produced in our country today.
I always do compare el eternauta with books like the walking dead, or even attack on titan. It is the evergreen concept of humanity fighting for survival.
Made me really happy to see Jim review this, thanks man!
I love this comic so much. In Argentina, not everyone knows The Eternaut comics, but everyone has seen the image of Juan Salvo in his suit. The first time I saw it I was about 10, and it was in the cover of a book about Argentinian politics in my dad's desk.
I love this edition, here in Argentina there is none that reaches that quality and in that format.
There is a mexican edition that is very good.
The Fantagraphics edition it's outstanding.
In The other hand that limited mexican edition it is beautiful.
hay una edicion que es igual a la de fantagrafics aunque por desgracia no tiene la tapa ( es similar pero sin la ventana) la edito doeditores, , y tiene la misma calidad. lo que pasa es que estos estan sacados de los originales y hasta hace poco eran scans de las revistas.
Excelente reseña, sin dudas El Eternauta es la historieta más importante y escencial de nuestro país, es un ícomo popular, al leer el libro uno siente que es adictivo, no puede parar de leer, por estos días estoy volviendo a leerla, en plena pandemia, sin dudas es imposible desconectar el libro de los diferentes contextos, sea el que sea, país de origen, política o pandemia, la invasión alienigena es una escusa para hablar de nosotros, los seres humanos. El Eternauta es una historieta que trasciende los tiempos, es eterna.
Yo como argentino y fanático de El Eternauta, me encanta que les agrade mucho esta obra de arte. Saludos desde Tucuman-Argentina.
Thank you for covering this book. The spotlight on this work is just another fine example of something critical, fundamental in the spirit of this channel, the spirit of enthusiasm, curiosity, appreciation, fascination, love (and much more) for a very rich form of expression. From the high brow to the low brow, Cartoonist Kayfabe is on the case. Jim, I love Octobriana. I fully pledged to your Kickstarter! Ed, big fan of HHFT, very much looking forward to seeing Red Room in print. Keep up the top notch coverage, boys! Thank you for being such outstanding custodians of this art form that I love. See you in the funny papers...
This really resonates with me. Being from Central America and witnessing the atrocities that governments commit against freedom of speech even in 2020. I'm working on my own take of the things that are happening in Nicaragua in a comics medium. Comics like this one are example of how this medium can tackle real life issues. Very inspiring. Always amazing content.
There's been so much history and conflict in central and south america that nobody ever learns about, I think it's cool to share that history through art and creativity
This my favorite science fiction comic ever. It's loaded with great, sense-of-wonder sci-fi mystery and also smart characters acting intelligently. Terrific stuff!
How funny! I just finished reading this book 2 days ago. Fantastic GN all the way around.
Awesome to see the Eternaut getting a spotlight on the channel. One of my all time favourites and what a beautifully designed book.
Great video! El Eternauta (original title) is one the moist important sci-fi comic books in Argentina and I would say in Latinamerica (I'm from Chile btw). It is a masterpiece that has influenced many generations of comic book creators. Solano-Lopez made an impressive career spanned over 50 years of great work, El Eternauta was basically a work from his beginning as an artist, he also created several sequels. Really hope you guys keep up the good word and keep talking about awesome comic books and creators from all over the world, CHEERS!!!
I just got this a couple months ago. I sat down with it as soon as I got it out of the mailbox and couldn't put it down. Truly a gem of a comic
A semi equivalent science fiction epic in American comic strips was Twin Earths (1952-1963 ) by Oskar Lebeck and Alden McWilliams. Alien invasion from an alternate Earth where women are the ruling gender. The artwork by Lopez has a resemblance to comic strip artists Pete Hoffman (Jeff Cobb) and Tom Hill ( Ed Dodd's Mark Trail ).
Amazing comic! One of the best. When reading it I had to keep reminding myself that it was made in the ‘50s. I can’t imagine what it was like to read it in Argentina during the Cold War.
Nice to see this review about this beautiful edition of a classic of agentiniant comic books, the versions of the 70s with Alberto Breccia is awesome too.
Read Dororo by Tezuka. I cannot recommend it enough.
He had a very simple animation production art style, but this allowed Tezuka to be the story teller he really was, because his story telling chops were HUGE and hard core. The western world of comics in 1967 had nothing story on this level of epic and grim proportions in comics. Masterpiece of sequential art.
Guys, in the Dave Gibbons interview he tells that when he started lettering comics he did it on originals and got to study the artist up close. One of them that he mentions is Solano Lopez. Solano Lopez has a story called "Ministerio" that Ed should definitely check out. He also mentions Arturo del Castillo (he thinks he is European, but he is originally from Chile and did his whole career in Argentina) who with Oesterheld did amazing western comics (El loco Sexton). Keep up the good work!
Just a side observation here... but it is interesting how many really outstanding comic book artists developed a huge portion of their illustration chops doing western cowboy comics. Moebius, Matt Baker, John Severin, and Lopez of course.
@@ericcantwell5582 add Hugo Pratt with Sargent Kirk to that list of heavy weights!
curioso, sabes que en la primer charla que vino david lloyd , tambien comento que solano lopez fue una gran influencia en el comic ingles, incluso lo invito a quedarse toda la charla ( fue hace muchos años y no recuerdo la verdad si se quedo toda la charla o se fue un rato despues)
@@MikeGiallo si, tengo entendido que varios artistas argentinos trabajaban para UK. Por ejemplo Victor Hugo Arias para Fleetway y D.C.Thompson. Arturo del Castillo en Top Spot ('Ringo') y Ranger ('Dan Dakota - Lone Gun') y Cowboy Picture Library.
This is Solano Lopez entry in Lambiek: Starting in 1959, Solano Lopez was active for the British market, mainly with comics for the Fleetway agency. He illustrated many series for boys adventure weeklies such as Valiant and Lion, including 'Adam Eterno', 'Kelly's Eye', 'Janus Stark' and 'Master of the Marsh'. He was also present in Buster with more comical series like 'Galaxus' and 'Pete's Pocket Army', and in Score 'n' Roar with the soccer comic 'Nipper'.
So I guess it makes sense that they influenced the 2000AD generation in some way?
THIS COMIC IS EPIC. NETFLIX HAS PURCHASED THE LICENSE TO PRODUCE A VERSION OF EL ETERNAUTA IN ARGENTINA.
Best comic of all times...
Dudes, you're on fire...vindicating many many works from Argentina, my country! Keep on spreading the word!
Would it be too much to ask for some José Muñoz or Enrique Alcatena?
Me muero si reseñan algo de Quique. El fue quien me recomendó que leyera a Piskor hace años ajajaj
That will be the day
This is a great book. When we went into lockdown, I couldn’t stop thinking about The Eternaut.
Same!
Yes. Especially when it was about time to go out to search resources, it was crazy man, nobody in the streets, wear masks, it was like this!
Great, guys. By the way, it is kind of moving when someone from abroad talks or even mention our Desaparecidos...
The Eternaut was from an independent anthology called hora cero ( zero hour), there was where hugo pratt was too , they wanted to make more mature comics that the one that were there ( mostly comic strips) , the comic started in 1957, 2 years after a coup d etat in argentina . that it was in favour of international interests, thats why if you remember the invaders are not bad, but they work for "them"( dont know how it was translated in spanish are the "ellos", thats the literal meanning), so although its not as political view as the posterior it has an argentinean view of politics and war. by our own personal political history , the 76 version is more radical in its view, but some implicits elements are there ,
This is a fine edition of the Oesterheld-López's masterpiece, indeed. But nothing can compare with the SHEER PLEASURE of having read it in the original mag, "Hora Cero Semanal", back at the '50s..., anxiously waiting for the next Wednesday, when each new issue appeared! I would change that for nothing else in the world!!
You are on fire, guys.
Argentinean comics are fascinanting.
Thanks guys, for such a warm and enthusiastic recommendation! All the best for you!
Francisco Solano López became an amazing artist in the 70s. All his work in those years is really interesting.
I´m currently in the middle of the original Eternaut!!! Love your Alan Moore reviews, muchas gracias!!!
Glad you're pushing people to read this gem! It's so dense and worth the read. The comparison to a zombie story is spot on. When I first read it, it really reminded me of the Walking Dead. Both books just propel you forward as you read them.
Because of its frantic development, amazingly accomplished uneasy atmosphere and bewildering resolution, this is a sheer classic. In this troubled times of covid 19 it reaches even deeper!!!
Espero que hayas visto el teser de Netflix 😱!!... salud desde Argentina!!..y en 2024 sale la adaptación!!..👍👍
I loved the review! there is an incomplete version of the Etarnauta made by Breccia, it is very interesting too!
It would be great for them to also see Argentine cartoons from the 80's or 90's, I think they would like it a lot too.
greetings from Argentina!
I love the way the ceiling fan reflects off the front cover haha
This version of the Eternaut is probably the most known and I think it's truly a masterpiece. But Breccia's version is more abstract and dark.
Unfortunately it was cancelled due to differences beteween its artists (Oesterheld and Breccia) and the editors.
Though it was said that it was because if the public, who didn't understood this experimental version of The Eternaut.
the way polsky's death is portrayed in this version is very similar to miller's style in sin city
The Eternaut was a serial that appeared in Argentina from 1957-59. That was shortly after Juan Peron fell from power after he pretty well ruined the country. It was popular at the time, and stands up well today. The sci-fi in it is a bit dated -- aliens and weapons recognizable tropes. Also, there are practically no women, and the few that do appear are stereotypes. Nevertheless, the collection reads beautifully even in translation. The writer and artist convey the thoughts, emotions, and occasionally a reflection on human life, without melodrama. Although the final dramatic shape is a little fuzzy, the work itself should be award-winning. It is chilling, and a perhaps a final coda to the work itself, that the writer and family were swept up in the right-wing murder squads of the 1970s dictatorship and disappeared in 1977.
Love to see a second argentine comic so soon after Mort Cinder. Also, that Fantagraphics edition is way better than any I have seen in Argentina. Just amazing!
Lucrecia Martel who did Zama was going to direct this, it would of been insane...
Me tengo que poner al día con esta gran obra.
It sucks when the fantagraphics edition is so much better than the current Spanish edition (which is also, sadly, out of print).
On a different note, have any of you guys read any Andrea Pazienza? He is an Italian cartoonist of the 80s and widely considered as one of the best. In English, his only available piece is "Zanardi" by Fantagraphics.
The Breccia version is interesting, but he got very experimental there (because he didn’t care that much for the story) and the magazine that published it (Gente, wich was -is- a very mainstream, very stablishment oriented and shallow lifestyle magazine) used the art as an excuse to cancel it, so it doesn’t feel that much finished or polished, it left some aftertaste of a rushed rendition of the story. The real reason for the cancelation was, of course, political, because the “remake” was far more political in the interpretation of what is actually happening with the alien invaders.
The netflix adaptation sounds cool, as it has a really good director attached to it (Bruno Stagnaro, he co-directed Pizza, Birra, Faso -Pizza, Beer, Cigarettes (or Joint)- in the 90s, wich is an amazing movie and directed Okupas, a tv series about marginal life in Buenos Aires and squatter housing that is a cult classic in Argentina, if you can check those, you won’t regret it)
A masterpiece!!
Keep em comin'! Please.
Does anyone know the difference btw the version you guys have here, currently out of print, and Eternaut 1969?
Got this one, eagerly awaiting the Eternaut 1969 collection.
One of the best Latin American comics books, by far. Masterpiece, Solano Lopez and H.G. Oesterheld 🙌
Muchaaaaachooooossss
Great review man. I think the value of this story is that it can be read just as a sci fi comic, but for a mature point of view the political allegory for the yankee imperialism (the Thems, pulling the levers from the distance) and their puppet governments carring out coups d'etat against democracy ( the Hands) is the strongest feature. Juan Salvo is the main protagonist of course, but he is an incomplete hero, the community represented at small scale in the survivors are the real protagonist and heroes; the people united, not an individual hero in a costume, are the ones who fighting against oppresion.
hey man. i have a lot of editions of el eternauta (in spanish) but the one you display on your video is beautiful. that i know of there has never been an edition like that in argentina in spanish. gotta get one of those english ones. i am also quite curious about the translations
ELENA!!! MARTITA!!!
Early, whoop! Love you guys
So great you show one of the best Argentinian graphic novels of all time, usually left behind as it's from a 3rd world country.
Love your work guys, big fan from Argentina!
Does anyone know if this is still available to buy anywhere? :/
Will you review The MASK collection next?
I’m glad to hear it’s not a blockbuster movie yet, to me that means that whoever is in charge of the right for it has some sense not letting scumbag producers run wild with it. Looks like a fantastic read so I’ve taken your advice and stopped watching so I can dig and find the book.
at one point it was going to be directed by Lucrecia Martel, she did Zama and works with Bjork. Very not blockbuster/mainstream director, unfortunately it wont happen...
Netflix has Made negociaciones with Oesterheld family yo Buy The rights to do a serie.
After having enjoyed Mort Cinder as much as any other book in years, I’ll take your advice and turn off the video, find the book.
❤🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
or will we face this ?
There will be a Netflix Series in 2021!!
czcams.com/video/rRHt0rdc7dU/video.html
There are excellent comics from. Latin America.
You know that you can follow the streets in Google maps? They are real streets and some buildings still exists today
Here's a short film thar references the moment commented at 9:51
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Oesterheld has written many incredible scripts for a number of different genres, he was one of the greats.
Hi guys for anyone interested, my new animated film is out and you can watch it right now on my channel. Thanks in advance.
Please review El Cazador, another comic book from Argentina.